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On August 01 2020 07:56 HoldenGolden wrote: Oh shit fast games fast signups. /in
I look forward to indiscriminately guillotine all of you.
##vote HoldenGolden
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On August 05 2020 01:05 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2020 10:15 Chezinu wrote: Oh, it is a silent night! So, I get to take a day off between trolling.
Hmm.. Well, not this week. Work is picking up. I'll be working late this week.
Just in already, by the time we get the last person, you’ll be done with the week
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On August 07 2020 03:19 Fecalfeast wrote:i work most days until exactly that time, so i'd almost never be around near deadline. I'm on PST which is the least good time zone for mafia 
This is awfully true, the last few games I've played I've literally almost slept through all the end of day voting, I accidentally even skipped a mafia kill I was suppose to submit because I overslept :D
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On August 09 2020 10:28 HoldenGolden wrote: Also I just moved today so very tired.
Is there a voting thread?
I don't see one, so many not, also confirmed townie here. Hope all of you are having a wonderful weekend.
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On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote: 1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.
2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet. Thanks, that makes sense. I see now.
When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.
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So no majority, this is feeling like the previous mafia games, where mafia tend to just not post at all while town goes at each other throats.
I didn’t get to post most of the weekend since I have family over. But starting tomorrow I’ll have more time to post.
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On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:oh wait holden is here On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote: Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright. Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally? Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances? He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't. Unvote Vote: lightingstrike Show nested quote +On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote: 1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.
2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet. Thanks, that makes sense. I see now. When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies. Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class?
Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all.
For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all.
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If we go based off what I said, then I’m inactive lol. But Vivax is the most inactive so far. I don’t mind just pressuring him.
I’m catching up on everyone else.
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Alright, so based off current game, I think Mr cheesecake is 100 town.
If I had to vote some one other than Vivax it would be Trfel just cause of his “I’m mafia” post. It’s really easy to claim it as mafia and get away with it D1 since most people wouldn’t want to believe it as this thread has shown.
HoldenGolden currently seems a bit forced, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt for now.
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On August 10 2020 13:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2020 13:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: Alright, so based off current game, I think Mr cheesecake is 100 town.
If I had to vote some one other than Vivax it would be Trfel just cause of his “I’m mafia” post. It’s really easy to claim it as mafia and get away with it D1 since most people wouldn’t want to believe it as this thread has shown.
HoldenGolden currently seems a bit forced, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt for now. Good to see you are posting. Why am I 100 town? I am not sure that anyone else has come to that conclusion but you so I am curious as to how you arrived there. Holden is a bad lynch.
Personally I think it’s how you’ve been trying to engage to Trfel, and your first post about him. I agreed with your take on his post. Typically I don’t like looking into D1 posts but after looking at how this mafia game is being rubbed, I’m kinda forced to do so. My other problem with Trfels opening post was that he essentially copied my opening post
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I also don’t think Holden is a good lynch at this very moment. But definitely some one to revisit later.
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Meh. Not going to argue. Waste of time.
##vote Vivax
Let’s turn the pressure cooker on.
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On August 10 2020 22:19 HoldenGolden wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2020 12:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:oh wait holden is here On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote: Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright. Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally? Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances? He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't. Unvote Vote: lightingstrike On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote: 1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.
2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet. Thanks, that makes sense. I see now. When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies. Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class? Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all. For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all. I'm just trying to understand your head here so bear with me. Why can't those who are excessively digging at D1 posts be townies trying to create a useful day 1? Why Vivax over Gtacc for your inactive elimination plan? Same question I asked to Fecal: how am I forced?
Because I know Vivax is more than a one post player, as mafia or town, so I rather pressure him. I don’t know GTac at all. However, if GTac doesn’t post anything today, I’ll just spend more effort on GTac.
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On August 11 2020 00:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:We are going to lynch Shockeyy today. Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him. i did read your mega post Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game. because vivax made a stupid post That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game. The above post is from my last game 5 years ago. In this game, KelsierSC was mafia and was townreading me the entire game and sheeping my scumreads that were on town. I know this was a long time ago, but I remember it clearly because of how it felt when it happened. I remember that feeling, and I am feeling this now with Shockeyy. Shockeyy did the same thing where he just townread me and then agreed with my read on Trfel. Now, my read on Trfel is pretty bad. It was mainly intended to get something going. Trfel does need to post something of relative substance, but I find it interesting that nobody else in this thread commented on my Trfel vote with the exception of LightningStrike who said it was NAI. Why is Shockeyy agreeing with me? He does not like people who analyze opening posts, but he likes me? He gives me the jeebies. ##Unvote ##Vote: Shockeyy
Stop being ignorant and bad at the game
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On August 11 2020 03:00 Vivax wrote: I can't decide who to lynch atm. As for Shockeyy I don't know what he wants from me with his pressure vote.
I knew you were around, I just put the vote on you to see what you'd do.
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On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes.
Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.
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On August 11 2020 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for. You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative?
I literally wrote that I don't like D1 reading into posts, but since this is a different style of game, I'm forced to.
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On August 11 2020 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 07:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 11 2020 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:Terrible Takes by TrfelTown LeanLightningStrike + Show Spoiler +Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. NullGTacc Vivax Mafia LeanEywa- + Show Spoiler +His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for. You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative? I literally wrote that I don't like D1 reading into posts, but since this is a different style of game, I'm forced to. This was the post I was referring to: Show nested quote +On August 10 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: If we go based off what I said, then I’m inactive lol. But Vivax is the most inactive so far. I don’t mind just pressuring him.
I’m catching up on everyone else. Unless I was mistaken I pretty sure you called yourself mafia for being inactive.
You’re putting words into my posts.. that’s not at all what I said or wrote. You pull this shit on me, but let Trfel slide, are you scum buddies with Vivax? That’s the only reason I can see you trying to fabricate this whole “I called myself mafia” spiel.
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Why don’t we just vote GTac?
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Fuck sorry I went to eat dinner with the wife.
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On August 12 2020 03:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 01:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 11 2020 00:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:We are going to lynch Shockeyy today. On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him. i did read your mega post Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game. because vivax made a stupid post That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game. The above post is from my last game 5 years ago. In this game, KelsierSC was mafia and was townreading me the entire game and sheeping my scumreads that were on town. I know this was a long time ago, but I remember it clearly because of how it felt when it happened. I remember that feeling, and I am feeling this now with Shockeyy. Shockeyy did the same thing where he just townread me and then agreed with my read on Trfel. Now, my read on Trfel is pretty bad. It was mainly intended to get something going. Trfel does need to post something of relative substance, but I find it interesting that nobody else in this thread commented on my Trfel vote with the exception of LightningStrike who said it was NAI. Why is Shockeyy agreeing with me? He does not like people who analyze opening posts, but he likes me? He gives me the jeebies. ##Unvote ##Vote: Shockeyy Stop being ignorant and bad at the game  Give me a reason to not lynch you 
You're already keen on lynching me, any reason I give you will just go over your head, in one ear and out the other. I don't like wasting my time with those that just do things to do them. You literally are only voting me because I town read you. What a load of shit on your part.
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The only way town is going to win at this point is literally getting the next two mafia in the next three cycles. If we fail at lynching mafia in the next three cycles town has the highest chance at losing.
Lynching me is a waste of one cycle, and a win for mafia.
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On August 12 2020 04:09 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy I just dived your filter and imo you look frustrated mostly. Do you feel like you don't want to play because there's people calling you scum?
You spend more posts for Cheesecake calling you scum than doing much else. You got any theory regarding the game or anything to share as to who you think is mafia?
I don't have any updated theories, but I did share on who I possibly think might be mafia. I haven't been able to update my reads or really spend the time I've wanted to on this game, which has gotten me frustrated, not actually Mr Cheesecake.
It's really my fault for not carving out the time needed, but also my wifes pregnancy and job have sucked up a lot of my time these past weeks.
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Holden, what are your thoughts on these two voting you?
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On August 12 2020 05:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2020 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 12 2020 04:09 Vivax wrote: Shockeyy I just dived your filter and imo you look frustrated mostly. Do you feel like you don't want to play because there's people calling you scum?
You spend more posts for Cheesecake calling you scum than doing much else. You got any theory regarding the game or anything to share as to who you think is mafia? I don't have any updated theories, but I did share on who I possibly think might be mafia. I haven't been able to update my reads or really spend the time I've wanted to on this game, which has gotten me frustrated, not actually Mr Cheesecake. It's really my fault for not carving out the time needed, but also my wifes pregnancy and job have sucked up a lot of my time these past weeks. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that Vivax, Trfel, and LS?
Vivax is more for posture, but I definitely do think Trfel can be mafia. LS seems to be protecting Vivax which I found extremely odd, so yea you can put him in my scum list too.
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On August 12 2020 12:29 GTacc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2020 22:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 10 2020 22:19 HoldenGolden wrote:On August 10 2020 12:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:oh wait holden is here On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote: Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright. Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally? Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances? He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't. Unvote Vote: lightingstrike On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote: 1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.
2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet. Thanks, that makes sense. I see now. When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies. Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class? Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all. For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all. I'm just trying to understand your head here so bear with me. Why can't those who are excessively digging at D1 posts be townies trying to create a useful day 1? Why Vivax over Gtacc for your inactive elimination plan? Same question I asked to Fecal: how am I forced? Because I know Vivax is more than a one post player, as mafia or town, so I rather pressure him. I don’t know GTac at all. However, if GTac doesn’t post anything today, I’ll just spend more effort on GTac.  Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 00:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 10 2020 23:58 LightningStrike wrote: These votes are all over the place o.o we should vote someone together. Also regarding GTac he is just policy at best due to his inactivity. We aren't lynching GTacc. Please tell us who your top scumread is this game. And none of that bluehunting stuff. yasssss Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 08:04 Trfel wrote:On August 10 2020 12:48 Fecalfeast wrote: Ok so which inactive do we kill? I'm down with your plan for right now but you have to drive This post feels super suspicious to me as well. Fecalfeast had just previously posted this: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa
cheesecake
holden
I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.
Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise
nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.
vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. Where he admittedly has no scumreads. But even moreso, look at the player pool (excluding himself), to see who Fecalfeast would want to lynch here (remember, he's looking for an inactive): Eywa- (likes him better than HoldenGolden) GTacc ShoCkeyy (the person he's talking to, obviously he wouldn't suggest himself) LightningStrike (says he's an active player, and can't read him) Mr. Cheesecake (likes him better than HoldenGolden) Vivax (liked his read, but says wait and see) HoldenGolden (active, but not overly scummy) Trfel (towny for some posts, meh otherwise) First of all, no one was completely inactive. Second, he has no reason to trust ShoCkeyy. Why would he go with ShoCkeyy here and be willing to follow his vote? Third, and most importantly, the only logical choice of vote here would be GTacc. No one was really inactive (except for GTacc), and Fecalfeast himself would have had misgivings about every other target, as mentioned in his list post. If Fecalfeast is town, he looked at a town full of people he didn't feel comfortable lynching, and told someone he had no read on that he'd vote for any of them. That makes no sense for town. I'll be voting for Fecalfeast and I strongly suggest you consider doing the same. ##vote: Fecalfeast :pensive: I get it... Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Ok just went back to check. Town loses if time expires which means mafia wants to go as many days with no lynch as possible as each day we get closer to lylo. Imagine lylo with a full game that's shit.
So with this being true I'm thinking eliminating low posters with the votes is a good start as it forces mafia to bluehunt or kill more active players thereby reducing the pool of possible mafia well before the timer runs out. If we create a popular effort to stall votes later on if things get spicy then we really shouldn't lose.
Vivax is a fine kill as is shockeyy or gtacc
A shenanigans onto LS would be fine too
We need to kill today imho so all inactives are good choices for a kill? why did you post today at all if you were already coming to this conclusion? I don't like this, kind of looks like mafia checking waters if people wanna dkdk me or not. sorry, i kept forgeting player names while reading so i don't have any reads other than shock bad guy and eywa good guy. I still don't know how dkdk's work  sorry for my english
I'm checking if you're around nah mean?
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GTacc also seems scummy as hell. Votes Holden, then talks about the game mechanics, and immediately calls me scum, but never actually attributes Holden and Myself as a team, although he can easily see my interaction with holden wouldn't say we're a team.
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##unvote ##vote LightningStrike
Yeaaa I’m not going to vote Holden when my mafia reads are literally voting for Holden.
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On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote HoldenGolden
The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.
Shockeyy why not lynch Holden?
LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself.
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On August 12 2020 22:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##unvote ##vote LightningStrike
Yeaaa I’m not going to vote Holden when my mafia reads are literally voting for Holden.
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On August 13 2020 02:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 02:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote HoldenGolden
The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.
Shockeyy why not lynch Holden? LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself. No he didn't respond for you. Why do you not want to lynch Holden?
Is that not enough for you?
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On August 13 2020 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 03:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 02:45 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2020 02:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote HoldenGolden
The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.
Shockeyy why not lynch Holden? LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself. No he didn't respond for you. Why do you not want to lynch Holden? Is that not enough for you? No. ##Unvote ##Vote: ShockeyyI asked why you didn't vote Holden, you said it's because your scumreads were voting for him. You said it when there were 6 people on the Holden wagon and you can't make me believe that you think 6 guys can all be mafia. Then you voted LightningStrike. You haven't even said whether you scumread LS before or after his late vote. And before LS voted for Holden: Me, Trfel and eywa are the mafia on Holdens wagon? It looks just like you're clinging to the LS vote because FF and Cheesecake voted him before. Truth is you just were comfortable with no lynching and keep wasting your vote. All things that make you mafia, because your reads don't change and you just keep pointing back at past stuff and you don't care to rethink them.
I voted LS due to an interaction I had with him earlier about voting you. Now you're doing the same thing he did to me when I voted for you. Both of you seem keen on defending each other.
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And out of everyone voting Holden, I honestly think the possibility of mafia is in these four players.
Trfel, LightningStrike, GTacc, Vivax
I don't think it's all six, idk why you and LS keep trying to put words in my posts as if I've said that.
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And in all honesty the four I'm suspecting of mafia seem to not like reading
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On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote: The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him.
Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town?
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On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote: You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches?
How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?...
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If anything, you unvoting Holden now and voting for me is scummy as fuck. Basically what you're blaming me for is exactly what you're doing.
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On August 13 2020 06:10 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote: You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches? How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?... And when did your pressure vote on me turn into a scumread anyway? That's also lacking in your filter. Why would I care to do anything at EoD if I could just play it the way you did and not compromise on any lynches? You are saying all the mafia tried to use a lynch for town at EoD but you, the townie, didn't because you had to keep your vote on me knowing it'd just be another wasted day? When the mechanics say that mafia wins if we waste time? That's the theory you're pushing right now. You have it completely backwards.
It wouldn't have mattered if I voted Holden??? He still had the majority of votes until LS voted him which caused everyone to unvote, I still don't see how that's my fault even if I left my vote on you. Holden STILL had the majority. When you became scum to me is when you decided to hard defend LS, just like LS hard defended you when I placed my pressure vote.
LS is the reason why Holden hasn't been voted off. Not me. I didn't waste any days. LS did.
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On August 13 2020 06:15 Vivax wrote: If LightningStrike is mafia then me trying to make a third wagon is bad for LightningStrike, so that theory of me + LS also goes into the bin.
Dude you making a third wagon is saving LS, it's not bad. You're literally only voting the ones that are about to be lynched such as Holden who you keep unvoting and voting for, then you vote me only cause I voted LS...
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On August 13 2020 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote: The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him. Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town?
You still haven't answered this.
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On August 13 2020 06:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote: The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him. Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town? You still haven't answered this. I wanted a lynch and he didn't play for the entire day after getting into the thread swinging, initially. But mostly, because I wanted a lynch so I don't see why you are putting the burden of explanation on me when everyone who voted at EoD was the most pro-town in the game. You have some particular reason you just couldn't join the wagon and lynch him? He wasn't playing anyway.
I posted that I went off to dinner with the wife, which stopped me from even switching votes anyways. I suggested voting Gtacc, and literally the wife had started asking about dinner which became more of a priority :/
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On August 13 2020 07:48 Vivax wrote: But really LS isn't mafia.
I think the mafia is in Shockeyy/Gtacc or Trfel/Fefe. (In no particular order but more likely pairings, though I lean more towards Sh+GT).
But we have to murder this afk guy. or we'll never know.
This makes no sense... If I'm team with Gtacc then why do I suspect him being mafia???...
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On August 13 2020 08:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 08:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 07:48 Vivax wrote: But really LS isn't mafia.
I think the mafia is in Shockeyy/Gtacc or Trfel/Fefe. (In no particular order but more likely pairings, though I lean more towards Sh+GT).
But we have to murder this afk guy. or we'll never know. This makes no sense... If I'm team with Gtacc then why do I suspect him being mafia???... Are you making any efforts to move votes to him?
I did already?...
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I'll swap Gtacc, but I feel more confident in LS
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On August 13 2020 09:20 Fecalfeast wrote:Thoughts: HoldenGolden has a super active earlygame with a + Show Spoiler + little roleplay opener and a number of fluffy posts. He then actually does make a few well reasoned responses to people's posts. The drop in activity may indicate this is just scum rolling over but it could also be that he forgot about this website and didn't check the game. mr cheese looks pretty ok early on tbh and was actually around for deadline IDK maybe I'm wrong on LS. This post makes me think it's a possible town LS + Show Spoiler +On August 10 2020 01:51 LightningStrike wrote: ##Unvote That actually a good post by Ewya but I still don't know why he wanted that blue claim so bad early.. shockeyy looks bad and this fecalfeast guy catches on right away, too meh boring thread Show nested quote +On August 11 2020 04:09 HoldenGolden wrote: I've ended up getting tied up dealing with the Joy's of university book stores. I'll be back probably this evening after my next class.
I've skimmed and why are we start to lock ourselves into lynching the inactives? A common trend I saw is someone is or is/is not a good lynch based on their activity level. Why? If someone is active and seems scummy to you, they can be power scum and thus needs to be lynched.
I'm fine plynching; but this feels more like a mentality thing rather than actually being forced to plynch yet. this guy's last post was over 50 hours ago and it mentioned specifically they'd be back this evening...
Holden did say he would return when school was over for him. Idk how many classes he has this week, but yea, he did kinda just roll over and forget about us.
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I look bad in every game I play, thats comment theme yo.
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common* oops lol I was thinking about facebook comments at the time I wrote that :l
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Bye Holden, nice playing with you, till next time.
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On August 14 2020 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote: why would the doctor claim now? It's not even close to lylo lmao That what I thought honestly I don't think the doctor should claim at all unless at LYLO.
Then why bring it up? Lol
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On August 14 2020 10:27 Trfel wrote: I'll try and be back later with some new reads. Kinda didn't feel like doing anything over the night phase in case I died.
Inclined to look at LightningStrike/Fecalfeast/ShoCkeyy/GTacc first (not in any order, and yes I'm aware that half the player pool isn't really narrowing it down ><).
Why just us? There’s other people, I mean I agree with Looking into GTac and LS, but vivax would be likely to no vote as mafia to just waste time and let town kill themselves off. It’s play to win.
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On August 14 2020 11:58 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 11:44 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm the only one who doesn't call you ewya you can trust me I didn't like his unvote at eod, I didn't like that he was voting on the same wagon as Shockey (even though I think Shockey is town). From his PoV, he's willing to throw a lynch away in order to not vote with his scum reads, so yeah... I don't get it.
I don’t think Mr cheesepie is mafia. His post reek of vocal townie. At least to me. I also voted LS because I definitely think there’s a possibility he’s mafia. LS and Vivax are overly protective of each other.
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On August 14 2020 14:03 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:On August 14 2020 10:27 Trfel wrote: I'll try and be back later with some new reads. Kinda didn't feel like doing anything over the night phase in case I died.
Inclined to look at LightningStrike/Fecalfeast/ShoCkeyy/GTacc first (not in any order, and yes I'm aware that half the player pool isn't really narrowing it down ><). why not vivax Mostly a gut feeling. I know he has a meta for being lazy as mafia (that he's proven he can overcome), but that would be lazier than he has been this game. He hasn't been very active or super involved, but he's been focused on things that are important and that's what makes me have him as a town lean.
Wow lol. If this was true then you’d have a town lean on me. I’ve had important things happen too which hasn’t allowed me to be involved;)
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##Vote Vivax
I'm not going to be around to switch my vote later, i have other important things to do. Voting for Gtacc is pointless at this time, if he's going to be afk again all day, he might just get mod killed.
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I'm around, actually got back before vote ended. I'm down to lynch Gtacc. Vivax seems mad, so I'll unvote him.
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Voting for me btw will give mafia ez win.
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I just love how LS is so easy to jump on any wagon thooo
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##unvote ##vote LightningStrike
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Wait is it dadred or damdred? If it’s damdred that makes it easy to vote damdred.
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Ohhh just saw LS post. Makes it even easier.
##unvote ##vote damdred
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On August 15 2020 11:23 Dadred wrote: I'm just posting thoughts as I have them as I'm filtering people.
I like Shockeyy a bit, granted I haven't read everything in context, but his posts seem pointed and a bit aggro. And even his vote on me now feels like pressuring and trying to figure things out. So he has that going for him.
Though Shockeyy do you have a fairly decent scum read on vivax? Why are you voting with your scum read exactly? You don't even seemed concerned about it which makes me worry a bit about you. Could you explain your vote, and your read on vivax exactly?
Based on his last game as mafia, it just seems like he’s be willing to waste as much time as possible in no lynch situations. I think any mafia really would be. But him and LS both seem to love switching votes non stop just trying to find any train that can happen, since we need 5 votes at one person, those two seem so inconsistent when voting. Just really trying to waste time while hard defending each other when ever I voted for either of them.
I voted with my scum read because GTacc was one of my earlier scum reads, and if he was willing to be afk, then whatever at that point. I wasn’t going to get 5 people on LS or Vivax at days end anyways since they both vote with each other anyways. And I would have to convince Trfel who’s riding on Vivax jock. I basically only have FeFe on my side at least when it comes to LS.
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On August 15 2020 11:37 Dadred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2020 11:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 11:23 Dadred wrote: I'm just posting thoughts as I have them as I'm filtering people.
I like Shockeyy a bit, granted I haven't read everything in context, but his posts seem pointed and a bit aggro. And even his vote on me now feels like pressuring and trying to figure things out. So he has that going for him.
Though Shockeyy do you have a fairly decent scum read on vivax? Why are you voting with your scum read exactly? You don't even seemed concerned about it which makes me worry a bit about you. Could you explain your vote, and your read on vivax exactly? Based on his last game as mafia, it just seems like he’s be willing to waste as much time as possible in no lynch situations. I think any mafia really would be. But him and LS both seem to love switching votes non stop just trying to find any train that can happen, since we need 5 votes at one person, those two seem so inconsistent when voting. Just really trying to waste time while hard defending each other when ever I voted for either of them. I voted with my scum read because GTacc was one of my earlier scum reads, and if he was willing to be afk, then whatever at that point. I wasn’t going to get 5 people on LS or Vivax at days end anyways since they both vote with each other anyways. And I would have to convince Trfel who’s riding on Vivax jock. I basically only have FeFe on my side at least when it comes to LS. I like your answer sir, it's not inherently scummy to vote with your read. They could both be scum or town, it's null. But I like your thought process. Now I'm not going to look deeply into ls yet. But I do have a scum read who do you think it is.
Please tell me it’s LS
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On August 15 2020 12:39 Trfel wrote: Also, it looks like we're not going to finish this game in time. I don't even care if town or mafia shows up, just as long as enough people show up to (presumably) lynch someone, even if they are town, that's better than lynching no one.
As suspicious as GTacc was, I prefer to give replacements the benefit of the doubt for a while to at least get a chance to evaluate the replacement. ShoCkeyy and LightningStrike should keep me well occupied anyway.
That’s a scummy thing to post.
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Dadred this dude is playing with yo feelings lmao.
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On August 15 2020 12:53 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 12:39 Trfel wrote: Also, it looks like we're not going to finish this game in time. I don't even care if town or mafia shows up, just as long as enough people show up to (presumably) lynch someone, even if they are town, that's better than lynching no one.
As suspicious as GTacc was, I prefer to give replacements the benefit of the doubt for a while to at least get a chance to evaluate the replacement. ShoCkeyy and LightningStrike should keep me well occupied anyway. That’s a scummy thing to post. Care to answer my question? Why is LightningStrike mafia to you?
I’ve posted it multiple times before, it may not be directed at you, but it’s in the thread.
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On August 15 2020 12:55 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2020 12:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 12:53 Trfel wrote:On August 15 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 15 2020 12:39 Trfel wrote: Also, it looks like we're not going to finish this game in time. I don't even care if town or mafia shows up, just as long as enough people show up to (presumably) lynch someone, even if they are town, that's better than lynching no one.
As suspicious as GTacc was, I prefer to give replacements the benefit of the doubt for a while to at least get a chance to evaluate the replacement. ShoCkeyy and LightningStrike should keep me well occupied anyway. That’s a scummy thing to post. Care to answer my question? Why is LightningStrike mafia to you? I’ve posted it multiple times before, it may not be directed at you, but it’s in the thread. Okay, well I think that judging by those explanations you are mafia. I'm giving you one final try to explain your read in a way that makes sense before I post why you are mafia. If you are town, I ask that you work with me here to help me see that.
Dang. What’s wrong with my explanations? I think they’re pretty straight forward.
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Vivax has been #1 afker if we remove Gtacc. Quite the hypocrite.
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Vivax says I’ve been uncooperative, but I’ve been sticking to my votes, and reads. Vivax on the other hand, has been willing to vote anybody for anything.
No real structure to his voting pattern or reasoning.
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Got damn, I’m amazing, I had the best reads.
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On August 23 2020 14:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2020 13:53 Fecalfeast wrote:On August 15 2020 08:10 Fecalfeast wrote: Another random thought if there was a no kill due to none being submitted and mafia is just afk this game doesn't count Dude, I saw this and I was like ROFL
It was the easiest win for them. I even posted about it lol
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