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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 30 2020 19:06 GMT
#7
/in
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 31 2020 23:11 GMT
#26
On August 01 2020 07:56 HoldenGolden wrote:
Oh shit fast games fast signups.
/in

I look forward to indiscriminately guillotine all of you.



##vote HoldenGolden
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 03 2020 17:47 GMT
#30
##vote Hapahauli
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 05 2020 01:06 GMT
#35
On August 05 2020 01:05 Chezinu wrote:
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On August 04 2020 10:15 Chezinu wrote:
Oh, it is a silent night! So, I get to take a day off between trolling.

Hmm..

Well, not this week. Work is picking up. I'll be working late this week.


Just in already, by the time we get the last person, you’ll be done with the week
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 06 2020 19:08 GMT
#43
On August 07 2020 03:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
i work most days until exactly that time, so i'd almost never be around near deadline. I'm on PST which is the least good time zone for mafia


This is awfully true, the last few games I've played I've literally almost slept through all the end of day voting, I accidentally even skipped a mafia kill I was suppose to submit because I overslept :D
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 09 2020 01:47 GMT
#66
On August 09 2020 10:28 HoldenGolden wrote:
Also I just moved today so very tired.

Is there a voting thread?


I don't see one, so many not, also confirmed townie here. Hope all of you are having a wonderful weekend.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 09 2020 06:01 GMT
#78
On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:
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On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote:
1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.

2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet.
Thanks, that makes sense. I see now.


When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 03:44 GMT
#137
So no majority, this is feeling like the previous mafia games, where mafia tend to just not post at all while town goes at each other throats.

I didn’t get to post most of the weekend since I have family over. But starting tomorrow I’ll have more time to post.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 03:48 GMT
#139
On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:
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On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:
oh wait holden is here
On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright.


Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally?

Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances?

He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't.

Unvote
Vote: lightingstrike



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On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:
On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote:
1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.

2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet.
Thanks, that makes sense. I see now.


When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.

Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class?



Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all.

For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 03:52 GMT
#141
If we go based off what I said, then I’m inactive lol. But Vivax is the most inactive so far. I don’t mind just pressuring him.

I’m catching up on everyone else.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 04:03 GMT
#142
Alright, so based off current game, I think Mr cheesecake is 100 town.

If I had to vote some one other than Vivax it would be Trfel just cause of his “I’m mafia” post. It’s really easy to claim it as mafia and get away with it D1 since most people wouldn’t want to believe it as this thread has shown.

HoldenGolden currently seems a bit forced, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt for now.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 04:33 GMT
#145
On August 10 2020 13:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On August 10 2020 13:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright, so based off current game, I think Mr cheesecake is 100 town.

If I had to vote some one other than Vivax it would be Trfel just cause of his “I’m mafia” post. It’s really easy to claim it as mafia and get away with it D1 since most people wouldn’t want to believe it as this thread has shown.

HoldenGolden currently seems a bit forced, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt for now.


Good to see you are posting. Why am I 100 town? I am not sure that anyone else has come to that conclusion but you so I am curious as to how you arrived there.

Holden is a bad lynch.


Personally I think it’s how you’ve been trying to engage to Trfel, and your first post about him. I agreed with your take on his post. Typically I don’t like looking into D1 posts but after looking at how this mafia game is being rubbed, I’m kinda forced to do so. My other problem with Trfels opening post was that he essentially copied my opening post
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 04:37 GMT
#146
I also don’t think Holden is a good lynch at this very moment. But definitely some one to revisit later.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 05:03 GMT
#151
Meh. Not going to argue. Waste of time.

##vote Vivax

Let’s turn the pressure cooker on.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 13:33 GMT
#162
On August 10 2020 22:19 HoldenGolden wrote:
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On August 10 2020 12:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 09 2020 21:32 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 09 2020 12:49 LightningStrike wrote:
oh wait holden is here
On August 09 2020 12:46 HoldenGolden wrote:
On August 09 2020 12:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Got 2nd place in clash T_T. Shockeyy looks a little forced? Trfel looks alright but nothing spectacular from his entrance? Will keep an eye on him. Holden looks alright.


Can you elaborate on how you feel Shockeyy seems to be forced tonally?

Out of curiosity, is trfel known for having spectacular entrances?

He was being overly happy type of forced at least tone wise I might reading into it to much. Trfel sometimes does spectacular entrances but more often than not doesn't.

Unvote
Vote: lightingstrike



On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 09 2020 13:36 Trfel wrote:
On August 09 2020 11:56 HoldenGolden wrote:
1) he said it in the same sentence that he was answering my question about the voting thread. Therefore, it came off as if he was speaking to me still.

2) Mostly to get the ball rolling; there's no specific AI reason yet.
Thanks, that makes sense. I see now.


When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies.

Do you got jeebies now? If so, care to explain it to the class?



Typically when people dig too much into first day posts, I tend to start feeling like the person digging is scummy since D1 posts are usually not informative at all. But this is a different type of game, and no one voted at all.

For this next day, we’re going to have to focus on those that are just not posting at all.

I'm just trying to understand your head here so bear with me. Why can't those who are excessively digging at D1 posts be townies trying to create a useful day 1?

Why Vivax over Gtacc for your inactive elimination plan?

Same question I asked to Fecal: how am I forced?


Because I know Vivax is more than a one post player, as mafia or town, so I rather pressure him. I don’t know GTac at all. However, if GTac doesn’t post anything today, I’ll just spend more effort on GTac.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 16:58 GMT
#184
On August 11 2020 00:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We are going to lynch Shockeyy today.

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On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


The above post is from my last game 5 years ago. In this game, KelsierSC was mafia and was townreading me the entire game and sheeping my scumreads that were on town. I know this was a long time ago, but I remember it clearly because of how it felt when it happened. I remember that feeling, and I am feeling this now with Shockeyy.

Shockeyy did the same thing where he just townread me and then agreed with my read on Trfel. Now, my read on Trfel is pretty bad. It was mainly intended to get something going. Trfel does need to post something of relative substance, but I find it interesting that nobody else in this thread commented on my Trfel vote with the exception of LightningStrike who said it was NAI. Why is Shockeyy agreeing with me? He does not like people who analyze opening posts, but he likes me?

He gives me the jeebies.

##Unvote
##Vote: Shockeyy


Stop being ignorant and bad at the game
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 18:07 GMT
#190
On August 11 2020 03:00 Vivax wrote:
I can't decide who to lynch atm. As for Shockeyy I don't know what he wants from me with his pressure vote.


I knew you were around, I just put the vote on you to see what you'd do.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 19:52 GMT
#205
On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.


They are nice takes.


Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 22:01 GMT
#224
On August 11 2020 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.


They are nice takes.


Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.

You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative?


I literally wrote that I don't like D1 reading into posts, but since this is a different style of game, I'm forced to.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 10 2020 22:44 GMT
#233
On August 11 2020 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 07:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Terrible Takes by Trfel

Town Lean
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to.

Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler +
I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative.

HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler +
While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game.


Null
GTacc
Vivax

Mafia Lean
Eywa- + Show Spoiler +
His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed?

The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden.

Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target.

ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler +
ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post.

Inconsistent, but not the strongest.

Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here:
On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest
eywa

cheesecake

holden

I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while.

Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise

nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there.

vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot.
This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see."

Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this.


I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three.


They are nice takes.


Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for.

You only called yourself mafia for being inactive though and he calling you mafia for inconsistencies that isn't activity relative?


I literally wrote that I don't like D1 reading into posts, but since this is a different style of game, I'm forced to.

This was the post I was referring to:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2020 12:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If we go based off what I said, then I’m inactive lol. But Vivax is the most inactive so far. I don’t mind just pressuring him.

I’m catching up on everyone else.

Unless I was mistaken I pretty sure you called yourself mafia for being inactive.


You’re putting words into my posts.. that’s not at all what I said or wrote. You pull this shit on me, but let Trfel slide, are you scum buddies with Vivax? That’s the only reason I can see you trying to fabricate this whole “I called myself mafia” spiel.
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