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On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.


A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.



Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro

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On August 25 2017 09:34 geript wrote:

You don't find it interesting that Koshi is calling me scum both for noticing his posting and for not noticing his posting? That's not in any way weird about it?

IDK if I explained it well the first time. Like let me explain it this way. Koshi is scumreading me for, at 6:14, posting this:



I am posting about TW's post:

That post is here on page 10 at 5:47.

Koshi's first relevant post on the subject is:

That post is here at 5:49.

Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for something I couldn't even have read if I'm following the thread in any kind of reasonable way. Like Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for how he reads Rayn in when the whole Skynx situation doesn't even really resolve until my first post is already made.

Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making. It's strikes a bunch on the idea of, "You'll scumread me for the right reasons." Like you should be scumreading me at point A for what I do at point B when point B follows point A.

On August 25 2017 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Well you came back in when all townleaders were gone and gave pretty mediocre analysis. Hopefully we will see more.

On August 25 2017 08:05 Koshi wrote:
Also dont see why I am null while you suggest I am a top town read in your skynx segment.

I'll think about it tomorrow.

On August 25 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:


Just for this I want to townread you. No mafia I can think of goes and asks for allies openly. You can have me for the time being then.

Don't know what rayn wants. Seems like he's reaching. Basically HF afkd, then un-afkd and accused Koshi of TMI, so I HF didn't afk, hence he didn't claim scum.

On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:

If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game.

On August 25 2017 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you guys let me talk to Skynx just for a couple of minutes please?

On August 25 2017 06:02 Koshi wrote:

I dnu.

Isn't it weird Artanis made a couple of post seemingly on a computer then says he is working so he can't post more.

Dnu. It's 23h00 and the guy is working on a computer but can't follow the thread? Meh.

On August 25 2017 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean if geript is mafia and Skynx is town why WOULDNT geript talk about Skynx?

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.

Koshi not getting this after the last two games is pretty odd

Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making.

On August 25 2017 15:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

For some context: I was actually phoneposting and my work is in social media where there's constant activity that I have to respond to so no I actually can't post when I'm working.

On August 25 2017 14:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
In hypocritical news, I want to call HF scum but I have absolutely no reason for it.

On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do.

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