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Vivax
22407 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:18 Grackaroni wrote: I think I kinda forced the issue vis a vis Ritoky. It does kind of read forced, like you two rented a room closed yourself off and started slapping each other taking turns while outside people were wondering what was going on. A dry shitfight | ||
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Grackaroni
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:16 Holyflare wrote: Why is it dumb? I think sometimes ppl can't help with their tmi. yep, not dumb On June 07 2017 17:19 Holyflare wrote: Nobody was thinking about it? Well, not as well as I do at least >:D On June 07 2017 17:20 Grackaroni wrote: I think your analysis about Tubesock is fine actually. I just found that quote funny. I'm inclined to believe that scum would want to lynch afk Vivax rather than go against sentiment to try to kill active HF. yeah that's why tubesock never actually voted | ||
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Vivax
22407 Posts
I have already poisoned your minds | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:22 Vivax wrote: ITT: Scum Vivax escaping another lynch after doing dumb shit. I have already poisoned your minds I aint unvoting you boy | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi?user=beentheredonethat&page=5 Whole filter is being a hipster calling vivax town against everyone, quoting posts to town read him and saying he'll lynch me first and vivax after. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 03:35 beentheredonethat wrote: If there's no obvious answer, how are you actively pushing people into "lynch Vivax" instead of making them come to their own conclusions? I get that HF is doing that, he has no other way than doing that, but isn't it SUPER DUPER FISHY that there's absolutely NOONE coming in and saying (besides poor btdt who has probably the worst standing in this thread right after the claimed cop right now) "hey guys thefuck is going on" On June 07 2017 03:36 beentheredonethat wrote: mumble mumble yeah makes sense but I don't want to admit that this makes sense lynching the fucking uncc'ed cop is plain bullshit Bloodthirsty for Vivax if he rescinds: On June 07 2017 03:38 beentheredonethat wrote: If Vivax rescinds his claim he's the lynch, no questions asked. At least from my side. Even if that's coming from town, it's super bad, stole a day, and potentially lost the game and should be punished. Same pattern as Tubesock. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
He argues there has to be a cop because why fake claim and also there's a GF. Mafia btdt thinks there's a cop and tries to get us to lynch me, so that I'll flip green and the cop dies after. He's thinking vivax might fake his check and get us both lynched. If Vivax is town. Looking like a plausible scenario tbh. Btdt is super off point this game. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
A) initially voted HF or were reluctant to vote Vivax B) said they would 100% vote Vivax if he rescinded[/quote] These players are Tubesock and BTDT. In the event that both you and Vivax are town, these are definitely the top two scum candidates. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:28 Holyflare wrote: Now, BH, remember your cop and GF argument with BTDT? He argues there has to be a cop because why fake claim and also there's a GF. Mafia btdt thinks there's a cop and tries to get us to lynch me, so that I'll flip green and the cop dies after. He's thinking vivax might fake his check and get us both lynched. If Vivax is town. Looking like a plausible scenario tbh. Btdt is super off point this game. Ugh, so the issue here is that it all hinges on Vivax being town. Vivax, if he's town, is playing SO BADLY. If he's town, we're winning this game in SPITE of him, not because of his contributions (post-D1). I really can't understand his play as town unless it's purely emotion-driven and not at all driven at trying to find the truth. People are SOMETIMES like this as town but... to the point of FAKECLAIMING as COP? the issue here at its core is "is Vivax town" because if he's scum we just take him out as we're doing but... jeez man. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:31 Holyflare wrote: I don't care, vivax dies. This play should never be allowed to pay off. OK I get that this play shouldn't be allowed to pay off. We do have a spare lynch or two, and there's nothing wrong with taking out Vivax first, except, what if my analysis is off and these kids are innocent. There are like, actual reasons to want to lynch the guy who's not claiming cop first in this scenario (HF) over the claimed cop. And if the cop unclaims, he's definitely not the cop basically. It's not like their reasons make literally zero sense. They're just highly suspicious if Vivax is town and so are you. On June 07 2017 17:29 Grackaroni wrote: I will 100% vouch for Vivax. I feel strongly that he is not mafia. Yeah Grack the issue is in the world in which Vivax is scum i'm not feeling so up and up on you, so i'll need the actual reasoning if you have it (other than gut feeling) | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:35 Holyflare wrote: And why am i suspicious if vivax is town? Nothing has changed. TBH Holyflare I'm suspicious of you even if Vivax is Mafia LOL. But this is because I have respect for your play; I think as scum you can come off as amiable and generally right about things, and you're capable of big plays. So if we lynch Vivax today and he flips scum I still have my eye on you; same holds true if he flips VT. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:36 Holyflare wrote: It's not even like we're determining a lynch now. We have a million hours for them to fight their corner and us to throw accusations at them. So who cares if you're wrong now in a hypothetical now situation? Yeah I mean I guess we just gotta take out Vivax today not matter what because in my view there is a good chance he is scum. If he IS town though I prefer not to lynch him, because my goal is to lynch scum. I don't care about allowing strategies or what is good or bad, lynching scum is preferable to lynching town. I'm not sure there's anything that could convince me not to lynch Vivax though we'll see what grack has to say. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:37 Blazinghand wrote: TBH Holyflare I'm suspicious of you even if Vivax is Mafia LOL. But this is because I have respect for your play; I think as scum you can come off as amiable and generally right about things, and you're capable of big plays. So if we lynch Vivax today and he flips scum I still have my eye on you; same holds true if he flips VT. That's kind of hard because there's a lot of little different factors that add up to make Vivax mafia improbable to me and a lot of them are feels. For one, usually the people who are openly pissed off and complaining about mafia getting bandwagoned are town. The follow up with Vivax not getting his lynch yesterday and claiming cop with a red check on HF and pissing off was like the most predictable angry townie reaction ever for me. I even made a joke about how I would do it to Ritoky earlier. We've been in synch for most of the early game. His reads post was insightful for the people he's not tunneled on. On June 07 2017 17:07 Vivax wrote: Well what I noticed this game is that fidei had reads that were off with what most others were thinking initially, then later kind of caught up and in his big post he ended up having reads that looked less suspicious. But I wrote him off as town for having weird reads so there's that. It's possible TS is mafia for the same reason. He's kind of on a different wavelength than the rest and was kind of happy just suspecting me as mafia when I was being a dick so that seemed opportunistic but I like to think he's just wrong and tbh I don't even know this TS dude. With ritoky the only thing I could think of is that he was proven around but not posting anything at deadline. As mafia he'd also have started into D1 with more smugposting I think. HF is pretty much lock scum. With BH there's a chance he's just being selfish and trying to flood the game with his textual adventures for his own leisure instead of trying to win it The claim play is terrible for mafia, but If he really wanted to strategically make a trade then he would have overwhelmingly had the upper hand if he was able to lose the attitude and put a modicum of effort into sticking around because it's a bad trade to begin with. | ||
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