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Vivax
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Grackaroni
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On June 07 2017 16:57 Vivax wrote: Btw Grack you owe me for pestering me in resistance while trying to kick sharkie out of teams so don't be a bitch and help a brotha out here. I want to help you but most of these players aren't used to our shitty plays and they are going to want to punish you for this. I also don't think either HF or BH are good lynches. Off the top of my head I like Ritoky/Conversion lynches. Also Tubesock is a definite possibility. | ||
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Grackaroni
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Vivax
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On June 07 2017 17:01 Grackaroni wrote: I want to help you but most of these players aren't used to our shitty plays and they are going to want to punish you for this. I also don't think either HF or BH are good lynches. Off the top of my head I like Ritoky/Conversion lynches. Also Tubesock is a definite possibility. Well what I noticed this game is that fidei had reads that were off with what most others were thinking initially, then later kind of caught up and in his big post he ended up having reads that looked less suspicious. But I wrote him off as town for having weird reads so there's that. It's possible TS is mafia for the same reason. He's kind of on a different wavelength than the rest and was kind of happy just suspecting me as mafia when I was being a dick so that seemed opportunistic but I like to think he's just wrong and tbh I don't even know this TS dude. With ritoky the only thing I could think of is that he was proven around but not posting anything at deadline. As mafia he'd also have started into D1 with more smugposting I think. HF is pretty much lock scum. With BH there's a chance he's just being selfish and trying to flood the game with his textual adventures for his own leisure instead of trying to win it | ||
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Holyflare
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 07 2017 16:50 Grackaroni wrote: If you weren't killing Vivax who would you kill? I know you probably haven't been looking at filters recently with the claim thing happening. If I weren't voting Vivax or HF, it would be because I think Vivax fakeclaimed as a townie a red check on HF who is also townie. The people to look for would be people who KNEW this was the case and were setting themselves up to look good and guarantee mislynches knowing that this is town-on-town. In the situation of "Vivax is town and fakeclaiming a redcheck on town", Mafia know EXACTLY what is happening; they know the claim is fake after all since they are the Mafia. This means they have some idea of how things might play out. So, they know that either HF or Vivax likely gets lynched, unless Vivax backs down. If Vivax is a VT, it's preferable to lynch HF first (since if Vivax flips VT, there's no followup lynch on HF; if HF flips VT, there IS a follow-up lynch on Vivax) so scum gets 2 mislynches, not one. So, what Scum wants to do is get HF lynched in the event that Vivax and HF are both town. On top of that, scum know Vivax is faking, so they think he might back down. In the event he does, they want to still secure a mislynch. So, they make statements like this: "if Vivax rescinds, he is 100% scum and we kill him for sure, no questioning it" so that if Vivax unforces the dichotomy, scum still gets a mislynch. Now, Vivax was highly suspicious and got a lot of votes on him, so Scum probably couldn't safely vote Hf. So, if I think vivax and HF are both town hypothetically here, Grack, the most suspicious people are people who: A) initially voted HF or were reluctant to vote Vivax B) said they would 100% vote Vivax if he rescinded | ||
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Holyflare
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Vivax
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buddy everyone, try to be funny, be afk at deadlines while attaching to popular lynch targets. There was this game when he had his kid crying at night and woke up and actually checked into the game (as town). This game he also seems a bit grumpy for rl reasons and his D1 tone was pretty much sherlock holmesih tone still so idk, feeling good about him town for now but I thought he was kind of reddish towards the end of the day cause he seemed disinterested into the whole HF and BH vs me shitfight. Tbh I wrote off the discussion between you two as standard townie headbutting. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:11 Blazinghand wrote: So, if I think vivax and HF are both town hypothetically here, Grack, the most suspicious people are people who: A) initially voted HF or were reluctant to vote Vivax B) said they would 100% vote Vivax if he rescinded By the way, this describes TO THE DOT what tubesock has been doing today: On June 06 2017 16:08 Tubesock wrote: basically, we lynch HF unless Vivax rescinds then lynch Vivax. HF flips mafia we celebrate or lynch Vivax after. If we decide to lynch Vivax first, and he is cop then we just gave mafia a free nightkill. So, basically now we can just talk about who is the last mafia. Note that he wants to lynch HF, but never VOTES HF. due tot he pressure. He wants to kill both HF AND Vivax though. He also wants to lynch Vivax first if and only if Vivax recants. I'm not saying Tubesock is scum, but in my opinion if you think both Vivax and HF are town, Tubesock should be your #1 scumread. | ||
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Vivax
21978 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:15 Blazinghand wrote: By the way, this describes TO THE DOT what tubesock has been doing today: Note that he wants to lynch HF, but never VOTES HF. due tot he pressure. He wants to kill both HF AND Vivax though. He also wants to lynch Vivax first if and only if Vivax recants. I'm not saying Tubesock is scum, but in my opinion if you think both Vivax and HF are town, Tubesock should be your #1 scumread. So in your opinion, TS is the dumbest mafia on earth. OK bh | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:15 Blazinghand wrote: By the way, this describes TO THE DOT what tubesock has been doing today: Note that he wants to lynch HF, but never VOTES HF. due tot he pressure. He wants to kill both HF AND Vivax though. He also wants to lynch Vivax first if and only if Vivax recants. I'm not saying Tubesock is scum, but in my opinion if you think both Vivax and HF are town, Tubesock should be your #1 scumread. Oh god I'm so good at this game, at remembering things and analyzing things, I forgot how great this feels, it's so good, damn. even this hypothetical stuff feels great, I love stretching my mental legs | ||
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Holyflare
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:15 Vivax wrote: So in your opinion, TS is the dumbest mafia on earth. OK bh On June 04 2017 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: Grackaroni lies as easily as he breathes! He is scum and just trying to distract from the fact that he is scum. He must be lynched. | ||
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Vivax
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But it's even too tinfoil for me. It crossed my mind though. | ||
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Holyflare
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Grackaroni
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On June 07 2017 17:15 Vivax wrote: So in your opinion, TS is the dumbest mafia on earth. OK bh Look, I actually still think you're scum so this isn't a problem. But think about it this way. The analysis I just made? Nobody was thinking about it until I made it. At the time Tube was pushing his shit nobody cared about that (except me who called it out as bullshit). But in the event you and HF are both town, and yes, I'm aware you think this is impossible or something, but in that event: scum want HF to go down first. This is obvious. If he flips town (and I know, you think this is unlikely) you're DEFINITELY flipping next. That's two mislynches for scum in this hypothetical. At the same time, it's hard to push this because you're scummy and Hf is townie. And you might recant, remember, all day Mafia has known your claim is fake in this hypothetical because they know Hf returns green to checks. So, they wanna be prepped for that angle to. Tubesock's posts sounds perfectly reasonable and nobody would question it and it would cause 1, maybe 2 mislynches in that hypothetical where both you and HF are town. If you don't agree, you're just wrong. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On June 06 2017 23:32 Holyflare wrote: I think he should be lynched and I don't care what he is. Based on his play yesterday only picking on inactives and lower down people and his demotivation after lynching mafia and fake claiming I'm very inclined to call him mafia. The only thing giving me pause is the ridiculous amount of ignoring that's going on to this claim. Grack et al basically ignored it and nobody has done their favourite thing of instantly putting votes on me. Which makes me pause because they would know vivax was fake claiming to lynch a town and stay away from it. So evidence based mafia, gut read from reactions fake claiming town. Dun dun dunnnn | ||
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Holyflare
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
I'm inclined to believe that scum would want to lynch afk Vivax rather than go against sentiment to try to kill active HF. | ||
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