[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia

On August 27 2016 19:33 disformation wrote:
i think ill do something ive never done b4.
/replace

On August 29 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
currently trying to debate if trfel is going for the mad wifom play (i have seen sl or oneg (would need to doublecheck)) insta scum claim as scum before. dont know if that would be in trfel's scum range. would go with no.
or is he trying to get town to generate content by talking about that.

on the other hand he is kinda annoying me already, which is normally not in trfel's range. so he might be trying to break meta.

On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.

That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool.

On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:


This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing.

I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it.

On August 29 2016 08:08 Holyflare wrote:


I like this guy.

On August 29 2016 10:10 DanelerH wrote:
I don't know if this is how xe normally plays, but I am currently suspicious of Koshi. Out of 27 posts so far, 16 of them were irrelevant and uncontributive. Out of the 11 that are a bit more contributive, two of them are cause for immediate suspicion:
+ Show Spoiler +

Five of them are voting for Tumblewood without adding anything:
+ Show Spoiler +

After xyr first vote, xe almost immediately switches to someone else, then back to the first vote:
+ Show Spoiler +

##vote Koshi

On August 29 2016 10:24 DanelerH wrote:
I find it odd that Koshi was suspicious of Trfel, but then defended Trfel shortly afterwards. If the former was said in jest, then it's another irrelevant and uncontributive post.

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia

On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:

why is that a townlean

...

OH SHIT
tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred
or not, maybe

On August 29 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
meh I like scott now

On August 29 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
new scott > afk scott
and is also probably town

On August 29 2016 16:15 disformation wrote:

For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me.

On August 30 2016 03:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare, what do you think about Tumblewood's posts on Tictock? Especially since you said that you're also suspicious of Tictock.

On August 30 2016 04:13 Palmar wrote:

How have you not been paying attention to my posts?

On August 30 2016 04:13 disformation wrote:

There is a pretty big mismatch between his comments/reads/post by post analysis and his conclusions. Most notably on the RB/Palmar thing, also noticeable on the reads on you/me.
As in: his conclusions make various degrees of not much to no sense given the comments he posted in the wall. So it all feels super unnatural/constructed/mismatched.

On August 29 2016 10:33 Holyflare wrote:


Also, if you're using this metric why are you going after Koshi and not hopping aboard the Disformation is mafia train with me? None of disformation's post can be mistaken for jokes, a lot of them defend people (Rels) and then scum lean them (based off a 2 letter post....)?

Also, everyone that is following the Palmar wagon on Rels and has said nothing more is in major cop out mode and I will be coming after you big time.

On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote:


Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch.

Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things".

Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this:



Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~

Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point.

So yeah. geript's entrance is shit.

On August 30 2016 01:47 geript wrote:
Pretty simple. I ignored the initial pm post. That's the type of shit that flat out ruins games one way or another. At the time he had a short filter with an exceptionally unusual scum pair (Koshi + someone iirc). I remember missing it initially but when TT and TW were talking, TT had this awful townread reasoning and TW made a short post on how he and Koshi couldn't be scum together. And it got me thinking about how Race could ever pair those two. It's such an odd pairing that it stuck in my mind.

On August 30 2016 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
Also, Daneler or w/e your name is, why have you ignored providing a read on disformation when he displayed the exact same traits that koshi did when you scum read koshi? I pointed it out and you've just jumped on geript for a point that is somewhat mediocre while ignoring evidence given to you that you yourself said you'd look into:

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 30 2016 05:27 disformation wrote:
@Koshi what do you think of TW's meta thing on TT?

On August 30 2016 05:34 Koshi wrote:

1 good post and he is town?

That's not how it works.

Mafia are the ones who make posts in an attempt to look town. The better the mafia player the more townie post he can make.

Town are the ones who make posts in an attempt to find mafia and don't care if they look town but look town in the process.


TW in this game is red and was able to make 1 good post.


TW in any other game is green and obvious green. I will go look for a game.

On August 30 2016 06:03 Palmar wrote:

why?

On August 30 2016 06:44 Race Bannon wrote:

So Tumble told rels to lurk it out until EoD, and now rels is apologizing for disobedience. Does anyone else read this tinfoil from the tone?

On August 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:

So "Trfel can be bad as town" but "he should know better than to open like this as town" ? I don't understand why you posted that first thing if you're actually thinking the second one.

On August 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote:
Caught up. I want to lynch one of:
- scott: see Vivax case. Very disconnected to any pushes this game but posts random questions + have a very bad reason to vote me, since his "meta analysis" should indicate Palmar's "reason" to push me was not supported by meta, yet he acted like it did. As a counter to Koshi, scott has an habit of making spreadsheet so it's not impossible he's making one as town to replicate his meta.
- tumble: not involved in the game. Has random posts about different things / people but there is no continuous thought process to be seen. He's just posting whatever is in his head, which is scum indicative. In particular, his TT post was one I liked and agreed with, but like everything else he posted about he posted about something else afterwards.
- TT: I had the exact same impression Tumble posted about. He's reasonnable but, having played with him quite a few times, his "nice" tone matches his scum meta. As town he will not care for what people thinks about him and just post stuff about finding scum.
- geript: two big posts that are meh and contains two things that don't make sense. First, the thing above about Trfel. Second, the thing about RB being likely townie but being in his scumlist. His explanation makes little sense, he should use every information at his disposal to find scum. I know I find RB's posts about his PM to be borderline cheating but he didn't do it on purpose and he's confirmed town now.

On August 31 2016 05:22 Koshi wrote:

Nope

On August 31 2016 05:23 Koshi wrote:

When? I made a scott is town case and a tw is mafia case this afternoon. That's all.

On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.

On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed

On August 31 2016 05:46 Tumblewood wrote:

game logic wise you both look the worst imo. but Koshi is pissing me off and looks more like actual scum

On August 31 2016 05:44 Palmar wrote:
I am only going to be on phone tonight but for what it's worth I didn't think tw sounded like mafia when we talked today. It's not a strong read nor am I going to hard defend him (don't wanna look like an idiot if he flips mafia) but yeah

I think geript is a better lunch. There is a vey concise and simple point against him

geript (3) - DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood

On August 31 2016 05:54 Tumblewood wrote:
changed my vote to scott. maybe I can save myself for today.

On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

On August 31 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote:


Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified.

On August 31 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote:
Arg I actually still don't like the shennanie...

On August 31 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
I'm a role

On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:

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Votes:

• Rels (6) - Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
  
• Tumblewood (1) - scott31337
  
• geript (0) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  
• scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  
• Vivax (1) - Race Bannon
  
• DanelerH (1) - geript
  

Not voting: -

On August 31 2016 06:00 scott31337 wrote:
What has happened

On August 31 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
I'm a role

On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

On August 31 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote:


Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified.

On August 31 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote:
Arg I actually still don't like the shennanie...

On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

On August 31 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote:


Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified.

On August 31 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote:
Arg I actually still don't like the shennanie...

On August 31 2016 06:50 geript wrote:

I'm actually curious why the Rels switch instead of Dane?

On August 31 2016 05:51 Holyflare wrote:





this is the biggest fucking cop out i've seen in a while

On August 31 2016 06:48 Tictock wrote:


like this shit was bad, if tumble is town then this guy effectively was happy to want to go afk and also shit all over shenanigans to rels and then switch only when he claimed blue

On August 31 2016 05:59 Holyflare wrote:


no

nop

nop

noppppp

you would have claimed it in your last post before instead of 1 minute before, fuck you

On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:

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Votes:

• Rels (6) - Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
  
• Tumblewood (1) - scott31337
  
• geript (0) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  
• scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  
• Vivax (1) - Race Bannon
  
• DanelerH (1) - geript
  

Not voting: -

On August 31 2016 07:17 disformation wrote:
phone bed post thingie:
remember that gif of that one guy (kramer from seinfeld i think) looks around spooked and confused and gtfos? csn you post it again?

so you are saying palmar+tt+1 of dane or tt?
why easing up on tt like his vote looks horrible?

On August 31 2016 01:47 Palmar wrote:

HF has done literally nothing worth noticing.

On August 31 2016 17:23 Trfel wrote:
Haha, Pretty sure Alakaslam is just posting because he feels like it XD

Help me Holyflare, why is Tumblewood town? I'm pretty unsure about him right now. And what about Race Bannon?

On August 31 2016 19:57 Palmar wrote:

Good on you dropping all these knowledge bombs when they're irrelevant.

On September 01 2016 07:03 Trfel wrote:
I don't know about Koshi yet, I'm hoping to perform the amazing feat of reading his filter today. I personally don't have much reason to townread him (or that much reason to scumread him) without reading his filter, but I know that a lot of people are very confident that Koshi is town, and I'm not sure why. Activity certainly is a possible argument, but I was under the impression that Koshi is also quite active as mafia, so I don't know.

Not sure what Vivax even thinks about geript. He talked to Palmar about geript but never took a stance about it himself. All super weak stuff.

On September 01 2016 06:07 scott31337 wrote:
There goes an extra lynch too

On September 01 2016 15:50 Holyflare wrote:
I'm trying to determine whether mafia Tumblewood would meta mafia ticktock to make him look bad. I'm thinking it's unlikely.

On September 01 2016 23:49 Tumblewood wrote:
welp I've been blindsided by extreme busyness
thankfully the new posts are slim, but I probably won't be able to catch up till the second half of D2
was the Hf CC on disfo real or just a figment of my imagination?

On July 23 2015 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
Also, there was an incredible problem that I pointed out in the obs qt and why you people think spam is so detrimental to the game. You people simply do not play with that style properly at all:

And it just smells of TMI "youare all on the wrong track but here is a bullshit case on scott that I want you all to gobble up" And we did...

Speeding this thing up due to having other things to do:
Everything else Vivax did that day was push his scott ml while cheering on the TW ml.

not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them

On September 02 2016 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
Also beginning to hate tw because omgus even though it's not even a scum read on me??

On September 02 2016 22:04 Tictock wrote:
For reference, someone who actually put more than a few minuets looking at something.

On September 02 2016 23:05 Tumblewood wrote:

because I don't care about it even a tenth as much as you do. and I disagree that Palmar would never do that as town

On September 02 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote:







It actually is 5. All on the last page of your filter. Which is probably last 36 hours?


But your scumlist:

Still got Palmar in there as lock mafia.

On September 02 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
Holyflare:



I really hate this post, especially given HF's read on Scott is ever-changing and never backed up.

Combined with how he played EoD into night I think there is a solid chance HF is mafia. Kinda slowplayed D1, got really right at EoD to push Rels, into some quick accusations and a lot of activity at night but not much thought or analysis being done. I stand by my original VoD selection + Show Spoiler +, HF is a whole lotta words without much substance this game.

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This is a vast misrepresentation of my play. I called HF null into town-reading him.

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Actually, why would he do this as mafia? What on earth does he gain from it given his position this game?

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1: No, you threw around a couple of throwaway opinions like "he said things that bugged me" while Trfel showed some evidence and tried to put thought into mindset and comes to the obv conclusion that my vote switch only makes sense if I'm mafia with scott.

2: So why haven't you pushed Scott at all today?

On August 31 2016 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around why Scott would be here but not vote to save himself unless he's with the last two but that's super duper associative and bad buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We never got much follow-through from Scott's spreadsheet stuff earlier, and giving up in this position is totally the opposite of the attitude Scott had D1 + Show Spoiler +. However it does fit a scum!scott agenda to lay low in a good position and try to bring down town's mood.

Personally I'd really like to lynch HF because I know by posting this I am in for a storm.

Scott is probably the safer bet though.

##Vote: Holyflare

On September 03 2016 00:37 Palmar wrote:
Why did you only start doing things for real after the flip?

Why did your shennies target Rels?

On September 03 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:

The 2nd question. Why Rels?

On September 03 2016 01:01 Holyflare wrote:


I honestly didn't like your geript case and he was saying stuff i agreed with and he called me town. Rels just posted meh stuff and looked like an opportunistic vote on geript and then he claimed blue in a post too late instead of earlier so it looked even more scummy.

Part of me wants to lynch Holyflare because I'm being bad and can't find mafia

On September 03 2016 02:34 Tictock wrote:


So not what happened.

You assumed this;


For the record I saw Rel's claim at like :59 and didn't have time to process/change vote.

Even if you assume I am mafia and voted Rels like this you should be asking why I would swap my vote last min after stating multiple times that I didn't want to shennanie. "To get a blue lynched" is the easy answer but why risk it when he was probably getting lynched anyways. The only possible reason is if I was mafia with scott and wanted to make sure he didn't get lynched instead. It would also imply that the 3rd mafia had swapped to Rels already (or was afk) or else why risk the attention.

You don't try to make any of those connections till later and instead post a lot of one liners and respond to stuff like this.




For reference this is all on pg 5 of HF's filter.

On August 31 2016 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around why Scott would be here but not vote to save himself unless he's with the last two but that's super duper associative and bad buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On September 03 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock vkted ekth me on scott his only scum read being me


Evyyg
Whyyy

On September 03 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
ACKNOWLEDGE ME

On September 03 2016 06:23 Koshi wrote:
I will be adding my vote to the biggest wagon in .

gl hf. Removing this game from my subscribed list.