Newbie Student Mafia XVIII - Page 56

On January 06 2016 06:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
so the only person who hasn't made any posts this day phase is mderg who totally bailed after I started asking him stuff.

##vote mderg

On January 06 2016 07:18 Fidei86 wrote:
This wagon on GB gives me the super heebie-jeebies. There are too many people jumping onto it too easily and with too little explanation. I think we should be lynching mderg instead, for the following reasons:

His first read on GB makes no sense

At #237 he notes that people are quick to jump on GB, for reasons that he agrees with "his opening was fishy", but he doesn't like it because it "feels too easy". So the opening is scummy, but people pointing that out is fishy? Huh?

His second read on GB is based on a falsity

Day 2 he votes GB initially (#741) for absolutely shit reasons - GB quoted Irish's reads accurately, and tried to do some NK WIFOM. Mderg then said that GB had NOT given Irish's reads correctly (which GB had) and voted for him. When called out on it, he tried to say that GB had cherry picked votes, which he HADN'T. This is just a read based on a factual innaccuracy, but instead of admitting the mistake, he doubles down.

He parrots other people's reasons for voting

His Scott vote at #455 was for reasons that had already been set out by others (set out helpfully by Irish at #441). On top of that, he also says that he's going to "park his vote" there, which is pretty scummy as it indicates a lack of conviction and looks to be leaving himself room to change later. He doesn't actually change his vote, despite not really saying anything about scott through the rest of the day.

When he finally explained his GB read after the #741 issue, he basically just summarised what people had said previously about GB. Then at #815 he calls out Kmatt's case, but says that he agrees with some of it and that GB is scum anyway.

His posts are responsive and reactive.

Most of his posts throughout his filter are responses to other posts. It's a classic scum technique of appearing active, while actually not contributing anything. See, for example, #599, #587, although really most of his filter fits the pattern.

His only long posts have come recently, and they seem to have mostly been an explanation of his own play in past games ... big help.

LYNCH mderg. Please.

##vote: mderg

On January 06 2016 01:51 NocturneMage wrote:


EBWOP - poorly worded phrasing

And I think particularly with Noon's claim on mderg's scum meta being reflected in this game.

On January 03 2016 00:55 mderg wrote:

I don't like this post at all. You're simply using his reads to vote without giving it any real thought. You're also ignoring pretty much all of his other reads this game. That's not town play.

##vote GB

On January 06 2016 07:18 Fidei86 wrote:
This wagon on GB gives me the super heebie-jeebies. There are too many people jumping onto it too easily and with too little explanation. I think we should be lynching mderg instead, for the following reasons:

His first read on GB makes no sense

At #237 he notes that people are quick to jump on GB, for reasons that he agrees with "his opening was fishy", but he doesn't like it because it "feels too easy". So the opening is scummy, but people pointing that out is fishy? Huh?

His second read on GB is based on a falsity

Day 2 he votes GB initially (#741) for absolutely shit reasons - GB quoted Irish's reads accurately, and tried to do some NK WIFOM. Mderg then said that GB had NOT given Irish's reads correctly (which GB had) and voted for him. When called out on it, he tried to say that GB had cherry picked votes, which he HADN'T. This is just a read based on a factual innaccuracy, but instead of admitting the mistake, he doubles down.

He parrots other people's reasons for voting

His Scott vote at #455 was for reasons that had already been set out by others (set out helpfully by Irish at #441). On top of that, he also says that he's going to "park his vote" there, which is pretty scummy as it indicates a lack of conviction and looks to be leaving himself room to change later. He doesn't actually change his vote, despite not really saying anything about scott through the rest of the day.

When he finally explained his GB read after the #741 issue, he basically just summarised what people had said previously about GB. Then at #815 he calls out Kmatt's case, but says that he agrees with some of it and that GB is scum anyway.

His posts are responsive and reactive.

Most of his posts throughout his filter are responses to other posts. It's a classic scum technique of appearing active, while actually not contributing anything. See, for example, #599, #587, although really most of his filter fits the pattern.

His only long posts have come recently, and they seem to have mostly been an explanation of his own play in past games ... big help.

LYNCH mderg. Please.

##vote: mderg

On January 06 2016 07:40 Fidei86 wrote:

This is your post. So it's not so much that you said that the reads were wrong, but that they were misleading. I just don't see how you could think that. GB posted all of Irish's scum reads, which was the basis of GB's post.

On January 06 2016 07:49 mderg wrote:

I feel like you're arguing about semantics. Of course he wrote down Irish's reads but he simply listed them down and picked the one that was more suitable for him.

On January 06 2016 07:50 Fidei86 wrote:

That was the point of his post - discussing Irish's scum reads..

On January 06 2016 08:05 Fidei86 wrote:
He literally said the reason he was not dead was because Irish was right in one of his scum reads. Then he gave Irish's scum reads.

On January 06 2016 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
ew fidei stop that

you're scum for no good reasons, remember?