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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 17:50 GMT
#1081
On January 06 2016 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On January 06 2016 02:30 nooniansoong wrote:
Gb less questions more conclusions from you.


I need answers so I can draw conclusions.


You have 54 pages to draw conclusions from.
Your questions aren't specific. They are broad, asking for list posts. It makes it seem like youre asking them for the sake of asking them.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 18:16 GMT
#1082
On January 05 2016 06:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On December 31 2015 05:33 mderg wrote:
On December 31 2015 03:54 Irishbound wrote:
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town)


Fair warning but if we lynch Scott today and he flips mafia like I expect he will then I'll probably voting you for this, the sheer amount you've now defended him and made it less likely that he gets lynched is baffling given your read on him. It makes no sense as a stance whatsoever and really does ignore what the issues with him really are, sure he his lesser activity may fall under his meta, him town reading Noon for the reasoning he does doesn't though and him calling me town due to being a "newb" similarly doesn't make sense.

I'd say scott flipping town would make GB look worse. Strongly defending a townie based on nothing just screams too much information.

Setting up what if scott flips town even though before this you made your first real post about someone about scott being mafia.

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On December 30 2015 23:01 mderg wrote:
Went through scotts filter and realized that there was even less content than I thought. Only 2 posts really.

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On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote:
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On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:29 Irishbound wrote:
I can already tell my complete lack of meta or understanding of what happend in prior games you guys have played together is go<script id="gpt-impl-0.34227765889966854" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script>ing to make it difficult to scumhunt and follow some conversations.

Know it's a weak thing but I'm leaning town on Noonian already, think scum would be less likely to be so brazen to make #62 and like his instant "That's anti-town to do" reaction towards Glowings statement.

I understand that we're meant to be voting in a separate thread to make it easier for the mod to tally up votes but I'd appreciate if everyone also posted here with their vote -- it'll make following the game and reading into context behind votes much easier than attempting to line up timestamps of when people voted in comparison to their thoughts/posts in here.

@Glowing - Who is this Kush you're voting?


You're the quickest townread I have ever had!

Hi! Welcome to the forums!

Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax


GB throwing out townreads like it's drunken Monday - hmmm...

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On December 29 2015 08:52 Irishbound wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:What exactly you didn't like about their openings?


I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses.


Okay, I'm extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available. Maybe GB was right You get a townlean for this Irish.

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On December 29 2015 09:08 NocturneMage wrote:
Greetings everybody! We're going to start the day by getting rid of obvious scum. And by obvious scum, I mean the dota players. Because as we all know Dota is a shitty game played by shitty people so it's never too soon to start taking out the trash!

##vote Fidei86

Fidei is the worst of them all, as he's openly admitted pre-game, he steals my wife on a regular basis playing dota with her in the evenings.

After Fidei, we plow through Onegu who I understand plays with her on occassion and then we take out GlowingBear who has told me in a previous scum qt (newbie 13) that he wouldn't coach me because I'm a League player.

Welp. EZ game EZ lyfe get rekt scum.



I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now...

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On December 29 2015 09:13 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:59 Kmatt wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:36 Irishbound wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name?

And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet.


Nop. Just kush.

Yeah, it's a joke to be fair we are kinda very "jokish" here in TL Mafia in the beginning of the games. We even call it "joke phase"

No, I don't, these opens are basically not alignment indicatice (NAI)

What exactly you didn't like about their openings?


If this is jokephase I got one:

What do you call a Zerg player that researched Chitinous Plating?
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Promoted to diamond league


It's funny because it happened to me and I felt validated but now I hear that ultras are OP and doubt myself.

On second thought let's not tell jokes. As for openings, I only thought yours was fishy, but it's day one and you probably end up being more valuable alive since you're still likely town.


Why am I likely town?


Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet.

On December 29 2015 09:02 Irishbound wrote:
@Kmatt, what did you find fishy about Glowings opening?


He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like.

On December 29 2015 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol did I? Anyway, you're now my buddy!!!


On December 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
100% true

##Vote: kush


On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
You're the quickest townread I have ever had!

Hi! Welcome to the forums!

Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong.

Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax


He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts.


This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well.

I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime)


In the first one he mentions GB's strange townread on Irish which isn't bad in itself. But the fact that I had done just that before and that he doesn't provide any follow up at all makes him look bad in my eyes.

Then he townreads Irish and Kmatt with only vague reasoning, nothing worth mentioning.

Also the strange "I could possibly jump on this". I have no idea where to put this.

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On December 30 2015 14:21 scott31337 wrote:
So I have CPR and first aid training tomorrow morning so I have to get up early - I should be back on before EoD.

The thing that gets me is - why would noon have a town read on me and go against thread sentiment if he was mafia? What's the motivation - so he moves up for me.

Giygas's filter looks the worse - there's some SC stuff and nothing else - so I'm going to vote for him for now.


In the second post he provides a weak defense of noon. I don't like it regardless of noon's alignment.

Then he votes Giygas. I don't think this one is particularly scummy, it's just a vote based on the lack of actual content from Giygas. His own lack of content is not something that should be taken into account for this vote.


I'd say he's pretty scummy and I'm gonna vote him for now because I'm not sure I can be back before the deadline and he looks like a good place to safely park my vote.
##vote scott


To me it seems weird to be talking about what if scott flips town after this.



Why is it weird,especially when he wasn't the one who brought it up? He wasresponding to someone else who had brought it up.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 19:16 GMT
#1083
Right and it felt like the response was setting up a town flip but I can see it being purely a response to irish speculating on a mafia flip...

I don't want to put effort into my reads kush come on
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 19:16 GMT
#1084
Christ I have big spammy shoes to fill was shape the only thing keeping this game moving?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2016 19:18 GMT
#1085
On January 06 2016 02:50 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 02:30 nooniansoong wrote:
Gb less questions more conclusions from you.


I need answers so I can draw conclusions.


You have 54 pages to draw conclusions from.
Your questions aren't specific. They are broad, asking for list posts. It makes it seem like youre asking them for the sake of asking them.


My opinion hasn't change on people, for now my townreads were all right and there is nothing new in thread. What's new in thread needs further investigation and that's what I'm doing
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 19:19 GMT
#1086
GB can you list me the scummers then so I don't have to do anything?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 05 2016 19:20 GMT
#1087
On January 06 2016 02:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Kmatt, Giygas, can you give your opinions on every other players in the game please?


Funny you ask that since I did that in #1032.

On January 05 2016 07:52 Kmatt wrote:
You know I had my suspicions that Cow/Shining was blue but damn detective? We really needed that for the last days.

I was pretty skeptical about his sudden post and GiygaS' vote switch when GB was on the table but if Shining really was a blue, then the only scenario where GiygaS fits in as scum would be if they had planned to vote switch two off of GB (or one from another wagon to put it at 4-5) at the last minute and Shining did half the work for them. I'm willing to put away that crackpot theory for the time being, which leaves us with...

Shapelog/FecalFeast: Shape was dubious at best before, but a lot of my grievances with him was his sudden disappearance. Now that we know about the surgery and FF's activity so far I'll peg him as town.

GiygaS: While that voteswitch was sketchy, Shining did have a point, and he clearly wasn't trying to trick anyone. Outside of my crackpot theory I've not a lot of reason reason to suspect him. Slight town.

NocturneMage: My safest townread second only to Cow/Shining. I'll give his filter the once-over since there's been a lot out of him to be sure, but so far I have no complaints against him. Town.

Fidei: I don't like how inactive he's been, but that's been the case for three townies so far (Scott, Onegu, and TheCow were all afk early on and they've all flipped town). However, if he doesn't come in with some solid scumreads today I'm gonna have a problem here. Slight scum.

GlowingBear: I don't really buy or even get that explanation for the Scott vote and there's been a lot of anti-town posting
coming from him. Especially considering how few players are left, I can't really see a scenario where he's not scum. Unless someone can show me solid evidence that there's a better shot in someone else I'm keeping my vote right here.
Scum.

I have to run out so I can't finish my bit on mderg and kush.


As for those last two:

mderg: I do find it odd that there seem to be no original thoughts in his filter. While I agree with the notion that being conversational-styled isn't inherently scummy, I haven't seen any posts where he says "Hey look I think X is scum and here's why". He does say that he has too many townreads, but at this stage in the game there should be ample arguments to be made. He does ask a lot of questions, but they never lead to a conclusion. To me, a real townie would be using those answers and information to build a case. I've seen nothing really helpful out of him, and by PoE, I'm gonna have to call scum here unless shown otherwise. Scum.

Noon/Kush: His posts seem a little more genuine but I'm not sold on him being town yet. I've got two better reads so far, and Fidei is still in the air for me. I'll call Null for now. I know I should be explaining a bit more here but for some reason I draw a blank on him. I'll try and revisit later today to come up with a better answer on him.

With that said I'm gonna have to pick up my torch on my best read.

##vote GlowingBear
We CAN have nice things
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 19:21 GMT
#1088
kmatt did I read somewhere that this is your first game?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2016 19:22 GMT
#1089
On January 06 2016 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
GB can you list me the scummers then so I don't have to do anything?


Mderg/Gyigas/?

I'm working, will be here in six hours from now, then I'll filter dive to show you what I'm talking about

It seems I'll have to put effort

And lol that was so bad that I re-asked Kmatt's reads
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 05 2016 19:22 GMT
#1090
On January 06 2016 04:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
kmatt did I read somewhere that this is your first game?


Correct. I played the SC2 Mafia custom to learn the rules but this is my first actual game.
We CAN have nice things
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 19:25 GMT
#1091
Well keep up the good work, then. The only way I could accept that you're scum is if you have the dopest scum coach of all time
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1092
On January 06 2016 04:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Right and it felt like the response was setting up a town flip but I can see it being purely a response to irish speculating on a mafia flip...

I don't want to put effort into my reads kush come on


To me it seems contradictory that #1 you dont want to put in effort and #2 you complain about the game not being active enough.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 19:31 GMT
#1093
maybe kmatt is a scum prodigy
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1094
On January 06 2016 04:30 nooniansoong wrote:
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On January 06 2016 04:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Right and it felt like the response was setting up a town flip but I can see it being purely a response to irish speculating on a mafia flip...

I don't want to put effort into my reads kush come on


To me it seems contradictory that #1 you dont want to put in effort and #2 you complain about the game not being active enough.

That does seem contradictory doesn't it?
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 19:43 GMT
#1095
On January 03 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
There's a reason Irish is dead and I'm not. The reason is that he was probably right at least for one of his scum reads.

His scum reads were kush/Giygas/Scott. Scott is dead, I think kush is more likely to be town. So I'm voting Giygas because I simply have no reason to town read him.

That gigantic post from Kmatt probably makes him town. If I had a wrong scum read, it is him. I keep my scumread on mderg and Onegu, tho.

To be fair, I'm pretty confident we hit a Mafia on mderg. But considering the night kill we should probably kill Giygas first.


1 At the end of the day he said he needed to reasses his scumteam. So why would scum kill him for reads he didn't even have anymore?
2 Did you consider that scum killed him because he looked town?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2016 19:44 GMT
#1096
People, stop talking about coaches, it is against the rules of the newbie games
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2016 19:46 GMT
#1097
On January 06 2016 04:43 nooniansoong wrote:
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On January 03 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
There's a reason Irish is dead and I'm not. The reason is that he was probably right at least for one of his scum reads.

His scum reads were kush/Giygas/Scott. Scott is dead, I think kush is more likely to be town. So I'm voting Giygas because I simply have no reason to town read him.

That gigantic post from Kmatt probably makes him town. If I had a wrong scum read, it is him. I keep my scumread on mderg and Onegu, tho.

To be fair, I'm pretty confident we hit a Mafia on mderg. But considering the night kill we should probably kill Giygas first.


1 At the end of the day he said he needed to reasses his scumteam. So why would scum kill him for reads he didn't even have anymore?
2 Did you consider that scum killed him because he looked town?


1) because he was universally town read. His approach to the game was also very experienced. He is a better player than most of veterans in these forums already.

2) Of course? Why else would scum kill him? Do you think scum was blue hunting since the beginning?
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 19:48 GMT
#1098
On January 06 2016 04:46 GlowingBear wrote:
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On January 06 2016 04:43 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 03 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
There's a reason Irish is dead and I'm not. The reason is that he was probably right at least for one of his scum reads.

His scum reads were kush/Giygas/Scott. Scott is dead, I think kush is more likely to be town. So I'm voting Giygas because I simply have no reason to town read him.

That gigantic post from Kmatt probably makes him town. If I had a wrong scum read, it is him. I keep my scumread on mderg and Onegu, tho.

To be fair, I'm pretty confident we hit a Mafia on mderg. But considering the night kill we should probably kill Giygas first.


1 At the end of the day he said he needed to reasses his scumteam. So why would scum kill him for reads he didn't even have anymore?
2 Did you consider that scum killed him because he looked town?


1) because he was universally town read. His approach to the game was also very experienced. He is a better player than most of veterans in these forums already.

2) Of course? Why else would scum kill him? Do you think scum was blue hunting since the beginning?


ok so why do you think it's a good idea to base your scumread of gigyas on his if you admit that's not why he was killed.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 05 2016 20:20 GMT
#1099
On January 06 2016 04:44 GlowingBear wrote:
People, stop talking about coaches, it is against the rules of the newbie games

You mentioned them just as much as I did
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 20:50 GMT
#1100
FF how are you feeling about this gb wagon?
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