EPTNewbie Student Mafia XVIII - Page 57
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NocturneMage
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On January 06 2016 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote: wait wtf he had like 0 minutes to dwitch when giygas voted.... yeah gb might be town Shennanies happens all the time hitting people of both alignments. How is the timing alignment indicative? | ||
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I don't recall him ever scumreading or townreading that slot to begin with (and even if he did, then????) and I am not sure what you could do with the information other than to say wait he didn't have a read but why would it matter now since he's flipped. Additionally, when I read the question I get extremely wary of anything that discusses blue roles/situations/reads outside situations where there are claims/counterclaims/fakeclaims near end of cycle, and even then sometimes you have to be careful. There was a potential risk that you get a reaction where a townie - especially a newbie townie - is going to spew something that further helps narrow the field down or outright gives himself away. In general, it reminded me of what happened right after the lynch I discussed in newbie 14. I always review scum qts especially when scum endgame and what stuck out to me was your rolehunting. So taking it into account who it was coming from, I got concerned. | ||
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NocturneMage
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On January 06 2016 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote: The main reason i had him as scum was he stayed on onegu while his scumread gigyas voted onegu too. The timing means gb had little time to move if any at all so my reason for scumming hin is invalid Ah gotcha. Wasn't sure if I was misunderstanding something with voting analysis. | ||
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nooniansoong
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On January 06 2016 07:18 Fidei86 wrote: This wagon on GB gives me the super heebie-jeebies. There are too many people jumping onto it too easily and with too little explanation. I think we should be lynching mderg instead, for the following reasons: His first read on GB makes no sense At #237 he notes that people are quick to jump on GB, for reasons that he agrees with "his opening was fishy", but he doesn't like it because it "feels too easy". So the opening is scummy, but people pointing that out is fishy? Huh? His second read on GB is based on a falsity Day 2 he votes GB initially (#741) for absolutely shit reasons - GB quoted Irish's reads accurately, and tried to do some NK WIFOM. Mderg then said that GB had NOT given Irish's reads correctly (which GB had) and voted for him. When called out on it, he tried to say that GB had cherry picked votes, which he HADN'T. This is just a read based on a factual innaccuracy, but instead of admitting the mistake, he doubles down. He parrots other people's reasons for voting His Scott vote at #455 was for reasons that had already been set out by others (set out helpfully by Irish at #441). On top of that, he also says that he's going to "park his vote" there, which is pretty scummy as it indicates a lack of conviction and looks to be leaving himself room to change later. He doesn't actually change his vote, despite not really saying anything about scott through the rest of the day. When he finally explained his GB read after the #741 issue, he basically just summarised what people had said previously about GB. Then at #815 he calls out Kmatt's case, but says that he agrees with some of it and that GB is scum anyway. His posts are responsive and reactive. Most of his posts throughout his filter are responses to other posts. It's a classic scum technique of appearing active, while actually not contributing anything. See, for example, #599, #587, although really most of his filter fits the pattern. His only long posts have come recently, and they seem to have mostly been an explanation of his own play in past games ... big help. LYNCH mderg. Please. ##vote: mderg omg it's the legendary chainsaw defense! | ||
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nooniansoong
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fidei's case is total bs. agree or disagree? | ||
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well played fidei this scumgame was actually a lot better than your last one. But that case against mderg is so scummy lol. | ||
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NocturneMage
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Part of the issue jumping in there and saying its chainsaw defence is that mderg and GB honestly have been scumming each other all game, and you can't argue that them scumreading each other HASN'T been central to how the other has played. | ||
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Fourth point is subjective but we already have half the case shot so... | ||
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On January 06 2016 09:58 nooniansoong wrote: so guess it's fidei, oo, gb. well played fidei this scumgame was actually a lot better than your last one. But that case against mderg is so scummy lol. Dumb question, but who's OO? | ||
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nooniansoong
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They both have really similar playstyles so I confuse them a lot. | ||
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Vote Count - Day 3 GlowingBear (5): NocturneMage, GiygaS, Kmatt, nooniansoong, mderg mderg (2): Fecalfeast, Fidei86 Not Voting (1): GlowingBear At this time, GlowingBear is slated to be lynched. Day 3 ends in on Wednesday, Jan 06 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
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