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My meta is 3 games which consist of. 50/50/50 Mendacies: | ||
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Truths: I suck at posting. This is a pm game, but pms are not mandatory. I will never pm anyone. My meta is 3 games which consist of... pr in a regularly played game. (my first game) scum in a thrown game. vt in a thrown game. so unless this game becomes thrown, my meta is prty useless. 50/50/50: I will read all of my pm with the same effort I put into this game. I will be busy friday directly for 10 hours plus another 3 indirectly. So sorry for unstellar effort. Mendacies: The daisy is my favorite flower. I am pro at posting. | ||
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by telling the truth. I cannot go back on my words. | ||
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Vt so no mislynch. Pr so no snipe. scum so safety. | ||
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Truths: Not a smurf. | ||
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I think that because you are asking a lot of questions. Specifically asking me why i am trying to look townie. But you never said anything to eden about miller claim? Which is a vt claim right? Idk you are looking more and more like mafia to me. | ||
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On February 19 2015 09:22 Koshi wrote: Snickers don't downplay yourself bro. Do that thing you do with the catching of liars and manipulations. I know you are a boss at that. To town: We need a couple good posts in this thread as well. We can't play this entire game in PM land. But we will play it there as well. If you have a good chain with somebody in PM land, consider sharing it with the thread after it is "finished". The bigger the better. Even if there is nothing of value in it, just put it in the thread as a spoiler. Does this post seem interesting to you? Also fair enough. | ||
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On February 19 2015 10:32 geript wrote: It's a non-claim. There's no miller in setup. Why would I care about a nothing claim over someone afaik I haven't played with who made an interesting opening. It just feels like you're opening is distinctly different from the rest of your posts in a very odd way and I want a read on you. Just checking on things. But the more I think about it. Koshi did say something about the way I play so idk. Maybe if you wanted to know more about me you would find it interesting. But this is starting to look like semantics. | ||
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I could at least see the scared being thought of by others. Why would a change in tone be a clue of my alignment? So are you reading me as scum cause you want to or just misunderstanding me?  | ||
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On February 1But 9 2015 11:01 geript wrote: It's a really dissonant tone. It's very hard to jive the different because you feeling confidant to tell people in your 4th game that you're not going to PM anyone or really deal with that shit at all and the rest of your posts. It's a bravado post in many ways. I find it interesting how confident you are initially versus the lack later on. Especially as lack of confidence tends to be more likely to be mafia. I find it especially more so considering your lack of experience. You could be town. IDK. But I just think you're a decent lynch as of right now. Your posting seems off to me. I also feel like your avoiding the question. And as far as the bold part goes... Do you think it would be good to say that? Also your pm made me giggle. | ||
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Also why would tone be an alignment tell. Especially the first post. It seems too early to be thinking about that. | ||
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Maybe if I ask him about he would realize maybes hes being quick to judge. Also if I'm new to the game, I wouldn't know that it is so crazy to not pm people. Seems kinda weird to miss that. | ||
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On February 19 2015 11:22 geript wrote: I've read a number of people right just on the first post. I read slam as not town pretty early on last game. I've read Marv as both mafia (correctly) and town (correctly) from his first post. I've read Vayne and other from their first post alone. Nothing is "too early." Also how am I misunderstanding you? I've explained why tone is indicative of alignment. I've explained why I find your tone and switch indicative. Like how could I be misunderstanding you? Like I really don't get that at all. I haven't said anything about you being rude. You might be misunderstanding my summary of your post. I didn't take it as rude. Could you show me. I cant find it. I knew i should never have said rude. semantics. And I disagree about the first post thing. I am prty sure you've been misunderstanding me. I would suggest letting others give their opinions. | ||
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Geript seems to expect a lot from me even though he said I havent played a alot. Idk seems weird to me. Also, if I am so new why would I do some huge ass, really obvious post that would draw attention to me. It was really close to the game start so chances are my twos scum buddies wouldnt be around. Am I really going to screw my two teammates like that? If was really confident yes. But I don't think I have been and I find it funny Geript would miss this if he was being genuine. | ||
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On February 19 2015 12:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Im real sad geript didnt pm me . Miller claim is fake and pointless. Snickers doing some weird ass shit. (scum) Have you ever played a pm game before snickers? No but isnt it scummy just to say that something is scummy without commenting on it? What are your thoughts on geript and eden? | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:10 liancourt wrote: Mars bar here is scummy refusing to work with one of the game mechanics that can be beneficial to town. Outright ignoring it puts a frown on my face. And is it just me or does he seem to emphasize that he is new. Saying that his meta didnt matter because game were thrown...? Seemed to me like if the games shit he is going to throw the game here too. "Guys if i dont play good its because i m throwing and its not alignment indicative." Nope i wont have that. Geript seems townie i agree with things he has said. Edens claim if u call that a claim is a joke dont know what everyone is fussing about. Rest are still null. And i like oats idea of using chat. But not irc. Why is koshi a null read? | ||
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I am still curious about this. Also kurami starting these quick topics. Does he have access to all of them? Why divide us into groups? Seems weird. | ||
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noir mini mafia chapter 2 a fire upon the deep Also I am waiting for people to give me answers and I need to look at the thread in detail before posting anything serious. So many people are being careless just accepting things and misreading things. For example, I never said anything about me throwing a game but some how two people think I threw a game? I wrote something about throwing games, but I dont see how a person that cares about correct info being in the thread could misread it. Then someone comes along and just believes what someone else wrote. So we got problems in this thread as far as I am concern. And I think people are doing well shitting it up. | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:38 Kurumi wrote: @Koshi I told you he gave me good vibes, yes? I noted that his style was weird though, correct? I've gotten hold on new information. Geript seems to be soft-pushing Snickers. He asked you about your read on him. My initial concerns have proven to be true, my initial good will is eclipsed by such observation. Was your concern that I was mafia or was your concern that geript was mafia? | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:41 Kurumi wrote: My main concern was that you are both Mafia. I know now that it is close to impossible to be as such. Your behaviour has not struck me as weird in opposition to geript's behaviour. He was 'off'. He was right, but 'off'. It reminds me of Ace going on Kavdragon, Kavdragon flipping and flopping as Town and Mafia Ace using that to push him relentlessly for the entire day. @Koshi I never said that Snickers is Mafia in qt. I only said that the convo between him and geript seems unnatural. Can you elaborate on the bolded part? Why is it impossible? What do you mean that he was off? What is he right about? Also if you think it would be beneficial explain your quick topics. Why did you start them? Is there a specific number of them? I am in one with you and two others so I assuming there is four main ones. How did you choose which people go into which quick topic. | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:59 Kurumi wrote: Geript is a direct guy. That's how he rolls. He acquires a target and then runs that target to the ground. Here he got a target and started to push others to roll the target over. He was right that you were losing your confidence steam. Same story as with Kavdragon in PYP:I. There are five quicktopics as names suggest. The people I picked were pretty much random, it depends on how well I know a person. I started them before the game even began. Ok were they distributed before the game began? You could of formed them and then not send them out to people correct? I think they lead to a null read. And i disagree about the whole confidence thing. Waste of time to try and convince you of that so lets just drop it. Thanks for informing me. | ||
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Anyway I want to hear more about LS , liancourt, sicklucker and oatsmaster. People in that list have either posted nothing to telling or havent really been searching for things but rather going with the flow. I would like to hear more from rayn because his play is just so interesting. Obviously want to hear from Onegu. Has he pmed anyone? Also in a perfect world, everyone would just verify if someone is quoting a pm that is true but that probably would not happen. I would like some type of verification but it probably will not happen. | ||
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 and anwser my question. | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:27 VisceraEyes wrote: BTW if you're on rayn's list and you are town, you should do something about it. I would suggest making a case for why one of the others on the list should be lynched instead of you for a start. That seems really like a really bad play. Or you are scum and trying to sway the fuck out of people. How about you try to prove whos town and mafia because if you are town it would benefit you. | ||
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Anybody care to weigh in why the hell a townie would post that shit? | ||
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Ls town Eden town Koshi town oatmaster town rayn town Onegu is wtf at the moment. I dont think palmar is going to replace or modkill him, but I do think we need to lynch him tomorrow if he does not say anything. Im fine lynching VE, LC, Or SL but would really wish they would post more. My top scum are kurumi and Geript. I would be willing to make a case on either but would prefer to make a case on geript. I will be busy prty much all tomorrow except one hour. So I guess I will start a case on Geript. Idk about VE LC Or SL, I could easily see them as scum, but I think kurami and Geript are more scum. I would like to say that x y and z are scum but since Onegu is no where to be found I think two is enough. | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:10 liancourt wrote: Mars bar here is scummy refusing to work with one of the game mechanics that can be beneficial to town. Outright ignoring it puts a frown on my face. And is it just me or does he seem to emphasize that he is new. Saying that his meta didnt matter because game were thrown...? Seemed to me like if the games shit he is going to throw the game here too. "Guys if i dont play good its because i m throwing and its not alignment indicative." Nope i wont have that. Geript seems townie i agree with things he has said. Edens claim if u call that a claim is a joke dont know what everyone is fussing about. Rest are still null. And i like oats idea of using chat. But not irc. LC please answer one thing. Why is koshi a null read here? | ||
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On February 19 2015 10:46 geript wrote: If you don't think it should be interesting, then why ask about it? So this post reminds me a lot of myself. He is trying to catch very specific things that seem out of place. On February 19 2015 10:50 geript wrote: At first I was pretty town on Snickers, but the more he posts the more I want to lynch him. His opening is really confindent, "Fuck you guys, I'm not pming for shit. Read the thread newbs." But his following attitude is really, really evasive and scared. It's quite a different tone. He doesn't feel comfortable at all which is odd considering the opening. Then all of a sudden he loses his cool. I do not see myself losing my cool here. And instead of being so particular, He just quotes me, but does not bold or anything. Why was he caring about specifics then a few posts later not caring at all. On February 19 2015 11:11 geript wrote: How does me saying I think you would be a good lynch right now in any way avoid your question of what my read on you is? So he cares about specifics but then he completely misunderstands me and what I am saying. On February 19 2015 11:22 geript wrote: I've read a number of people right just on the first post. I read slam as not town pretty early on last game. I've read Marv as both mafia (correctly) and town (correctly) from his first post. I've read Vayne and other from their first post alone. Nothing is "too early." Also how am I misunderstanding you? I've explained why tone is indicative of alignment. I've explained why I find your tone and switch indicative. Like how could I be misunderstanding you? Like I really don't get that at all. I haven't said anything about you being rude. You might be misunderstanding my summary of your post. I didn't take it as rude. Then there is this gem. I am asking why tone tells alignment and he goes on this first post spiel. Hes not reading clear at all here. On February 20 2015 08:58 geript wrote: Like what Kurumi is saying is literally him being fucking lazy. That's why I'm pushing him. Like I'm not sure if I'm mad at him for spoiling something that could've been really fucking amazing, or if I'm certain he's scum because he's too fucking lazy to actually read an 18 post QT and look at it carefully. This post reminds of myself a lot. One way I try to find scum is looking for people who do not care about the game. He uses the word lazy here, but I think we both mean the same thing. Finally, he hasnt pushed me even though I have heard multiple times of him being some God of Pressure but If i was in his position I would push the fucking shit out of me. Also the whole deal with kurumis trap timing and he how he sprung it too early, I would do that to look townie as fuck. Now Oats made a good point of that kurumi and Geript being together would be weird as fuck. I will relook at Kurumi right now. So to recap. I see Geript and me as similar players. As both alignments. He reminds me a ton of my scum game and seems to switch his principals a lot and just not follow them. Thats the best way I find scum. | ||
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On February 20 2015 06:59 Kurumi wrote: Geript is a direct guy. That's how he rolls. He acquires a target and then runs that target to the ground. Here he got a target and started to push others to roll the target over. He was right that you were losing your confidence steam. Same story as with Kavdragon in PYP:I. There are five quicktopics as names suggest. The people I picked were pretty much random, it depends on how well I know a person. I started them before the game even began. I feel like kurumi is being very defensive. On February 20 2015 07:06 Kurumi wrote: I could not distribute them before the game began. I distribtuted them around 30 minutes before my first post. I feel like he wants them to look townie. I also feel like he comes clean when pressured. Anyway I kinda think I am being a bit ridiculous here and kurumi does look like a terrible lynch. He brought up bs from other games, but others have done that too. So yea I am golden with Geript Sl, Lc, Ve or Onegu as of now. | ||
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Holy shit I hate saying this is most of the game I am in but could townies plz start looking more townie. Would make this game a lot more easier. | ||
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On February 20 2015 16:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Look I'll even do you one better. I'll put my vote somewhere where it could be more useful. ##Unvote ##Vote: sicklucker Snickers work with me. Koshi's case on you is meta based and has a really REALLY small sample size. I liked it for what it was, a D1 case on someone who is relatively easy to read. At the time, you didn't look town. You're looking a little better now, but you need to get this idea that I'm mafia out of your head now or today is going to be a waste for you. Conversely, fail to get me lynched and probably get lynched yourself in the process. The choice is yours. I am gonna play that League game. So no one thinks this is scummy right? Is this what I'm going to hear from more than 3 people. | ||
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Also time to let all you noobs know what is up. Lets see if you can catch my drift. I am 100% sure as I can be that Onegu is not getting modkilled. Somehow no one has mentioned that yet. | ||
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If we lynch one of the pros in the town circle and he flips scum, why shouldnt it be policy to lynch the other pros in the town square.. I mean circle. | ||
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Geript do you and your town circle have an exclusive chat? | ||
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And Sl if you do not show me in the thread where somebody brought that up about the modkill. I am probably going to leave my vote on you. Not to sound like a threat but I am working under limited time here. | ||
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And geript whats a ts? | ||
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Why am I not in the exclusive chat Geript. Isnt there a chat with just you and the peeps in your town circle? | ||
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I said multiple times I was thinking about lynching Onegu. No one said shit so sorry if I dont realize not posting anything does not lead to a policy lynch. I said multiple times about my time constraints toward lynch. VE lets pretend im town in yours eyes. Who the hell was I suppose to vote for in that situation? Where would my vote not be a throw away? Dont even say it would of been better not to vote. And yea my off vote had such ee han timing. | ||
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On February 21 2015 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote: YOU VOTE FOR THE PERSON YOU THINK IS THE SCUMMIEST THROUGH YOUR INTERACTIONS THE LAST 48 HOURS. YOU HAVE NEVER TALKED TO ONEGU. WHAT THE FUCK DUDE. You never even tried to get additional votes onto Onegu. What in the world was the point of your vote? Your situation and Onegu's situation is totally different. So first bolded poor stuff. Thats not universal lol Second bolded Okay so you know me and him have not pmed? third bold I had to go to work fourth bold It would have been better to vote than not to vote. And I did not even know where the fuck the votes were at and I did not care at that time cause I thought people would be switching the shit out of them. So why would I not put my vote on someone who I think has been scummy and would be easy for other people to fucking vote on. So my vote would at least have two purposes How about make some better posts if your going to come at me. Most of it is bs. | ||
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On February 21 2015 05:55 sicklucker wrote: Someone explained to me that palmer never modkills out of thre ad I forget who koshi or rayn most likely I thought it was scummy cause i thought a decent amount of people (not everyone) were actually going to lynch Onegu. So why not share with the thread that info to help get him lynched. (I thought not many people knew Onegu was not going to get modkilled. idk i did look into this too closely so did not think it through but first thing that popped in my head was he didnt do something so easy that could help the thread a lot. | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:10 liancourt wrote: Mars bar here is scummy refusing to work with one of the game mechanics that can be beneficial to town. Outright ignoring it puts a frown on my face. And is it just me or does he seem to emphasize that he is new. Saying that his meta didnt matter because game were thrown...? Seemed to me like if the games shit he is going to throw the game here too. "Guys if i dont play good its because i m throwing and its not alignment indicative." Nope i wont have that. Geript seems townie i agree with things he has said. Edens claim if u call that a claim is a joke dont know what everyone is fussing about. Rest are still null. And i like oats idea of using chat. But not irc. So i kept asking LC why he had a null read on koshi. I thought maybe cause koshi had one post. Prty much he dodged my question but it if I had to say that he did give me an anwser, this was it. I felt like koshi did not post anything important. Not trying to put words in his mouth but yea did not really give me a answer and that is what I took from it. The problem is he gave koshi a null read and wrote a short story about me. But it was all about my first post. And i really dont see how you would think i was throwing games from what i said. So i think he is trying to sway town. Also he says something similar to what Ve is said. I bolded it. Ve voted me but wasntly rly voting me. His vote was prty much "Snickers im voting you so you get motivated to actually do something. " Even though I fooled around a lot LC never bitched again about me fooling around. He has never pmed me. I can see a town player doing that but it adds up. He hasnt followed up anything. He keeps talking about people getting on irc and chat and stuff but when I do, he just blows me off. Even after dodging the question. Also he said I was playing the wrong game if I did not want to pm but it seems like he does not want to pm either. Also his last post talking about him and koshi lynching me is prty bad. Like where the fuck did that come from if he was town. FINAL POINT. What the hell has LC done this is productive in the thread except for that one posts. Personally I dont see anything and even nice players wont be able to see much. The only productive post he made was responding to my question (the person he thinks is scum). So how koshi caught Eden, wouldnt this be the same mess up. His only significant post in the thread was him agreeing with his "scum" read. So Lc start posting some good stuff. I dont see how a decent player would not lynch you if keep this bs up. If you do keep it and and dont get lynched its just cause people somehow are looking scummier. | ||
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So Lc has done some very scumy to a bit scummy stuff but nothing that seems genuine town. | ||
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Now I am going to go find that scum slip. And yea I didnt die so that ???? maybe??? makes geript look better? Idk | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game. Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions. Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me. Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game. Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before. Null: Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad. VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him. Scum slip? You decide. W and H prty far away from each other. | ||
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On February 22 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote: Snickers is likely town: Here is a shitton of extra information for you people. He is trying to solve the game. He is paranoid. He is town. Here is stuff on sl: + Show Spoiler + Original Message From Snickers: Doesnt that lead to a post by Geript? And here are my notes on ls from most of day one. 1. "Shitty reader or shitty precedent". I think it I was refering to his first post here but I did not see how a townie misreading stuff so easily/much. Or was he trying to sway town. 2.Oh shit. I almost forgot. I cant find the post but there was a post i thought could be a scum slip. Someone wrote " we he " doesnt look like a typo but the person left a thought in by mistake. I think it might be Sl or eden since I wrote in my notes. Ls:"scum slip with Eden" 3. "His list post had a lot of bs in it " I think somebody already pointed this out. It was really wishy washy. Oh yea i remember now I put Ls as town cause i thought eden was town. The scum slip made no sense if eden was town. 1. 2. and 3. all come from page before page 8 in the thread. Heres the rest from the thread and still chronologically in order by reflection on posts. "ls reads wrong and is defensive" "pm with koshi shows he thinks no one is mafia kinda" Thats all. Here is a lot of stuff on geript. He quotes on a strange way but read it and it makes sense, ask him questions if needed: + Show Spoiler + [23:25] == Koshi_ [webchat@109.132.49.250] has joined #Snickers [23:31] == Snickers [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #Snickers [23:31] <Snickers> hey koshi [23:31] <Snickers> I am going to start blabering about geript cause time is short. Palmar confirmed. [23:32] <Snickers> Am i in the right spot? [23:33] <Snickers> From geripts filter. [23:33] <Snickers> 9. Why do you think that? [23:34] <Snickers> here he puts up two question I think they are not connected by agenda or flow. I wonder if anyone else thinks they are off too. [23:34] <Snickers> 12. If you dont think [23:35] <Snickers> this post reminds geript my posting style, he likes to read very specifically [23:35] <Snickers> this is important later on [23:36] <Snickers> 13. At first I was prty town on snicks seemed weird as fuck based on tone [23:37] <Snickers> seemed weird as fuck based on tone (Sorry haha) also he already is talking about lynching and he is completly misreading me? Or is he swaying town [23:38] <Snickers> 17. I have read a number of people [23:38] <Snickers> Here i wasnt asking about the significance of first post I was asking about tone reads [23:39] <Snickers> He seems to be swaying and now assuming he is town, he 100% loses his close reading abilities. People have been saying town geript can put presssure on yada yada but why would he fail to read closely here [23:40] <@Koshi_> hmm hard to follow if you use postnumbers like that [23:40] <@Koshi_> but it is ok [23:40] <@Koshi_> Keep going and I read it. [23:40] <Snickers> And now im not referring to any particular post but if you look at edens posts, eden mutilple times is telling me to give pms a chance but eden himself keeps saying how he think he wont use them? like wtf I am dissapointed i missed this [23:40] <@Koshi_> I am making a case on geript atm in the thread. [23:40] <Snickers> Sorry koshi but if I die i just want someone to have this info to post [23:41] <Snickers> I will make a proper case if I live [23:41] <@Koshi_> Keep going and we copy this log into the thread before deadline [23:41] <@Koshi_> It's good stuff [23:41] <Snickers> noooo [23:41] <Snickers> not before deadline im trying to bait kill from geript [23:41] <@Koshi_> 1 second before bro [23:41] <@Koshi_> When they can't change anymore [23:41] <Snickers> thanks for reminding me. Note to all playerss: Geript posted multiple times trying to get my role and acting like I was a pr. [23:41] <Snickers> Oh ok [23:42] <Snickers> Note to all players: Also I have been sending geript pms to act like I have been medic the way I think a geript scum would see me ass medic [23:42] <Snickers> ill just repost what I sent him here [23:43] <Snickers> Original Message From Snickers: So lets say person a is 100% the cop. If two scum are left, Would person a admit to being the cop and give his red check out. Hide nested quote - Original Message From geript: I would save one of Me/Koshi/Rayn/VE. They're all town and they have to shoot one of us. Like you should talk to us way more if I'm right and you are the medic. That said, the rb being gone only means that there's 1 mafia [23:43] <Snickers> Ok that didnt work [23:43] <Snickers> Just trust me haha [23:45] <Snickers> Page 2 of Geript filter post 6: @kurumi I actually dont believe.... [23:45] <Snickers> Ok so easy way to look townie as shit would be prove kurumi wrong and I am fine with that. [23:45] <Snickers> But I feel like he is shitting up the thread with how much he argues with kurumi [23:46] <Snickers> Also this is a weak point but to look townie I would have done something similar. As soon as I saw kurums post I was thinking damn if I was scum I would be disproving this shit and trying to push kurumi. [23:46] <Snickers> I still have no clue what to think about kurumi [23:47] <Snickers> Lol koshi if you were mafia you could totally fuck me by killing me and not posting this at deadline ahah [23:48] <@Koshi_> You can also post it bro [23:49] <@Koshi_> jsut do it on minute 59 [23:49] <Snickers> haha yea [23:51] <Snickers> So yea time is running out If i do die I would try to find that scum slip if i where you. And yea geript missing that Eden fuckup at the start of the game is extra bad if he was still around doing close reading hard to prove that [23:52] <Snickers> page 4 number 14 [23:52] <Snickers> Here is the list for d1 lynch candidates [23:54] <Snickers> limiting shit down and he mentions Onegu is lynch bait? Well everyone said I was wrong for saying this so....... I am not on the list cause geript is reading me medic [23:54] <Snickers> His next post kinda shows that in retrospect haha [23:55] <Snickers> Also another note [23:56] <Snickers> how the hell is a town geript reading me medic. Like he approached me first about being medic so then I started to act like I was but I dont see how a townie sees me as medic in this game [23:58] <Snickers> Geript seems to have fallen off a lot like yea its a pm game but I just see close reading which went to trying to look townie/shitting up the thread [23:58] <Snickers> and saying people they are wrong which is what I do [23:58] <Snickers> gonna try to find scum slip about Eden and ls in on min [23:58] <@Koshi_> Ok I am putting this all in spoilers [23:58] <@Koshi_> This is the last thing. Oh yea Just so its less confusing. It as about LS NOT SL. | ||
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On February 22 2015 08:32 geript wrote: Like if Koshi keeps on pushing me though, I'm 100% making sure that guy dies on D3 for being wrong. Like it's really hard to imagine that town Koshi is this fucking terrible. Who is dying day two? | ||
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Even if kurumi is scum, there still one scum left. Idk seems like you are not too interested in hunting down scum. | ||
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Geript if you are town, why didnt you pick up on the fact that Eden was encouraging me to pm while at the same time saying he wasnt going to pm himself. | ||
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On February 22 2015 09:10 LightningStrike wrote: Okay after getting the pm of Rayn and Geript talking to each other Geript thought Rayn was the Cop so that would be a motive of why Rayn was killed. I siding with Koshi on this one sorry Geript if you are town ##Vote: Geript idk now that you say this I think the kill makes you look scummy. | ||
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On February 22 2015 10:24 geript wrote: Like how can town Koshi in any way have such good points on Eden and such fucking terrible points on me. Its impossible therefore you are scum. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Like this level of anger is certainly disproportionate to the amount of suspicion currently on geript. Whoever said that was correct, Snickers maybe? Like this level of kindness is certainly disproportionate to the amount of mean produced by Ve. Whoever said this is realizing that geript and ve are in the scum qt typing it up. And they know geript is fryed so now Ve is trying to win some people over. Toodles. | ||
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It may be Snickers The Candy Bar idk | ||
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And the other two are which of these kurumi LC and geript | ||
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What does Yolo mean? And i am confused. In rayns filter there is not much talk about sl being mafia. and rayn says some interesting stuff about the power roles. | ||
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If u guys are going to talk about these past games, how about post them or I'm reading whenever u reference something that could easily be referenced a lie. And why the hell has geript said" like"100 times since we started lynching him. And ve is acting so weird, what the hell is a tunnel? Sl where is ur case on me if i am mafia? | ||
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And I thought I read multiple times people think I voted sl? I voted ve, mainly just bull shitting around then voted onegu. | ||
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On February 23 2015 07:25 geript wrote: So who's scum again Koshi? Tell me I'm scum. Because you're totally getting lynched after me. Like there's literally no way you ever could think I'm mafia. There's literally no reason to say that you didn't know about this conversation. Because I'm pretty sure I've pm'd you about it specifically. I know I've talked with Rayn and VE and You about this specific interaction. Like does anyone think that town!Koshi makes an argument saying that I don't have a fucking 1.5-2 hr conversation with somebody on the fucking when I literally told him, that his brother asked who he was talking to, or the fact that I knew he went to work because he mentioned it, or the fact that I knew that he went to UCLA, or the fact that I knew that he had trouble reading liancourt. Like, town!Koshi doesn't make any such shitty argument saying, "I don't believe that conversation ever happened." You know why, because even as mafia, I don't lie about that shit. Like that's worse than shit tier and Koshi doesn't start any argument based off of that. You know who thought Eden was mafia, yet never once talked about trying to PM him or contact him or anything else. Koshi. You know why? Because his argument changed around whatever various things. In the end it was, "He's around but he isn't doing anything so he's clearly mafia." But why didn't Koshi ever fucking try to pm, or skype, or anything with Eden. It's because they're fucking mafia partners. Ez bus is real. Rayn just sheeped Koshi D1 because he was sure that there was 1 mafia between SL and Eden. Exactly 1 mafia between the two. Koshi said the same thing, multiple times. Now he's sure that SL is mafia too. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. What reasoning has he provided for his change in reads on SL? None. What's Koshi accusing me of doing? Not narrowing down my reads at all. Not taking a look at things in the light of new evidence. Who's reads haven't changed in the light of new evidence? Koshi. He's still pushing SL despite new evidence that in the least should get him to consider a different path. Who's pushing someone who's obviously fucking town? Koshi. Who's continuing to ignore scummy fucks who aren't doing anything who will 100% lose the game for town if they continue to go unflipped? Koshi. What's Koshi's reasoning for all this? Because he "thinks" someone who is fucking obviously fucking town is mafia. Bullshit. There's literally no way that town Koshi could be this bad. How has Koshi's read on Kurumi changed? He's literally repeatedly said that he doesn't think Kurumi is town. Really? You don't think he's town. Funny how every time he comes up you have a new reason not lynch him. A bullshit reason that I blow up. Like, "Oh Geript's case on Kurumi is all meta." Nope. Wrong bitch. It's only partly meta. And it's the hardest part of the case to explain because most people here are idiots and have no clue how to even fucking use meta right. Like Rayn tried to get me to call 2 of Kurumi's mafia games town games to trick me; but I fucking know kurumi's games and threw that shit right back in his face. You know why. Because he's fcuking terrible at meta. The greatest thing about it is that both mafia games taht he presented I didn't even play it. Like Koshi's whole excuse for Kurumi is that he "blew his wad too early;" Funny, that's the exact same excuse that Eden used. The thing is Kurumi's wad, doesn't prove anything. It doesn't differentiate in any way between mafia sharing the QT or town sharing the QT. It's a push that isn't designed to do anything except make it look like he's making a push. It's a push that literally has not shot of going anywhere except for saying that "one of these 5 players is potentially mafia." Something that only fucking idiots didn't already know. You know what Koshi's excuse for never looking at Kurumi seriously? Why bus the GF? So Koshi, why'd you bus the RB over the GF? are you saying you talked to eden for two hours and didnt realize eden is a girl? | ||
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On February 23 2015 09:01 Koshi wrote: If people need towncred. Snickers towngame and Snickers scumgame. PM ME what you think Snickers is this game based on meta. Snickers town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?user=snickers http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?user=Snickers Snickers mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?user=Snickers Whats the point of this koshi? | ||
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On February 23 2015 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Why though? If you are now thinking geript is town then why is Kurumi off the table? Koshi told ME the green check is on someone else so.....someone somewhere is lying about something. Of course koshi was lying about the green check. If I had to guess, the green check is on me. | ||
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On February 23 2015 07:25 geript wrote: So who's scum again Koshi? Tell me I'm scum. Because you're totally getting lynched after me. Like there's literally no way you ever could think I'm mafia. There's literally no reason to say that you didn't know about this conversation. Because I'm pretty sure I've pm'd you about it specifically. I know I've talked with Rayn and VE and You about this specific interaction. Like does anyone think that town!Koshi makes an argument saying that I don't have a fucking 1.5-2 hr conversation with somebody on the fucking when I literally told him, that his brother asked who he was talking to, or the fact that I knew he went to work because he mentioned it, or the fact that I knew that he went to UCLA, or the fact that I knew that he had trouble reading liancourt. Like, town!Koshi doesn't make any such shitty argument saying, "I don't believe that conversation ever happened." You know why, because even as mafia, I don't lie about that shit. Like that's worse than shit tier and Koshi doesn't start any argument based off of that. You know who thought Eden was mafia, yet never once talked about trying to PM him or contact him or anything else. Koshi. You know why? Because his argument changed around whatever various things. In the end it was, "He's around but he isn't doing anything so he's clearly mafia." But why didn't Koshi ever fucking try to pm, or skype, or anything with Eden. It's because they're fucking mafia partners. Ez bus is real. Rayn just sheeped Koshi D1 because he was sure that there was 1 mafia between SL and Eden. Exactly 1 mafia between the two. Koshi said the same thing, multiple times. Now he's sure that SL is mafia too. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. What reasoning has he provided for his change in reads on SL? None. What's Koshi accusing me of doing? Not narrowing down my reads at all. Not taking a look at things in the light of new evidence. Who's reads haven't changed in the light of new evidence? Koshi. He's still pushing SL despite new evidence that in the least should get him to consider a different path. Who's pushing someone who's obviously fucking town? Koshi. Who's continuing to ignore scummy fucks who aren't doing anything who will 100% lose the game for town if they continue to go unflipped? Koshi. What's Koshi's reasoning for all this? Because he "thinks" someone who is fucking obviously fucking town is mafia. Bullshit. There's literally no way that town Koshi could be this bad. How has Koshi's read on Kurumi changed? He's literally repeatedly said that he doesn't think Kurumi is town. Really? You don't think he's town. Funny how every time he comes up you have a new reason not lynch him. A bullshit reason that I blow up. Like, "Oh Geript's case on Kurumi is all meta." Nope. Wrong bitch. It's only partly meta. And it's the hardest part of the case to explain because most people here are idiots and have no clue how to even fucking use meta right. Like Rayn tried to get me to call 2 of Kurumi's mafia games town games to trick me; but I fucking know kurumi's games and threw that shit right back in his face. You know why. Because he's fcuking terrible at meta. The greatest thing about it is that both mafia games taht he presented I didn't even play it. Like Koshi's whole excuse for Kurumi is that he "blew his wad too early;" Funny, that's the exact same excuse that Eden used. The thing is Kurumi's wad, doesn't prove anything. It doesn't differentiate in any way between mafia sharing the QT or town sharing the QT. It's a push that isn't designed to do anything except make it look like he's making a push. It's a push that literally has not shot of going anywhere except for saying that "one of these 5 players is potentially mafia." Something that only fucking idiots didn't already know. You know what Koshi's excuse for never looking at Kurumi seriously? Why bus the GF? So Koshi, why'd you bus the RB over the GF? Here sl. | ||
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On February 23 2015 11:06 geript wrote: Also, Koshi made a case on me when this guy is around and is doing the exact same damn thing that Eden was doing? Really? Really? What are you talking about? | ||
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1. Talking about how weird the voting is. Okay not many people were here during hammer. 2. talking about how koshi does not want to lynch in actives. Maybe the inactives are the medic/cop. do I need to continue? | ||
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On February 20 2015 15:26 Snickers wrote: So this post reminds me a lot of myself. He is trying to catch very specific things that seem out of place. Then all of a sudden he loses his cool. I do not see myself losing my cool here. And instead of being so particular, He just quotes me, but does not bold or anything. Why was he caring about specifics then a few posts later not caring at all. So he cares about specifics but then he completely misunderstands me and what I am saying. Then there is this gem. I am asking why tone tells alignment and he goes on this first post spiel. Hes not reading clear at all here. This post reminds of myself a lot. One way I try to find scum is looking for people who do not care about the game. He uses the word lazy here, but I think we both mean the same thing. Finally, he hasnt pushed me even though I have heard multiple times of him being some God of Pressure but If i was in his position I would push the fucking shit out of me. Also the whole deal with kurumis trap timing and he how he sprung it too early, I would do that to look townie as fuck. Now Oats made a good point of that kurumi and Geript being together would be weird as fuck. I will relook at Kurumi right now. So to recap. I see Geript and me as similar players. As both alignments. He reminds me a ton of my scum game and seems to switch his principals a lot and just not follow them. Thats the best way I find scum. | ||
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HOW THE HELL DOES A SCUM POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT LIKE WTF. HOW THE FUCK DOES A TOWN POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT. but how I am not suppose to lynch into my top towns top scum read. and my top scum read before all of this bullshit. | ||
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On February 23 2015 11:44 geript wrote: Name 1 read he's given today. Name 1 read he's given all game long. I can't think of a single person he's called scum other than his push on VE which was literally only memorable because it was the craziest thing I may have ever read. but you cared a little bit ago? But you dont care if its you? | ||
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On February 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote: Original Message From sicklucker: I know ur a role so dont ask qeustions like what are my case on you that I cant really answer without letting others know Ok then whos the other role if I am one of them? If snickers is just the green check koshi and co this is scummy as hell because hes asking me who the other role is what does co mean? Why would you put this in the thread and not message it to koshi? So where is your case on me now that you let that pm out that you wouldnt let out if you actually thought i was a role you would pm koshi? the fuck siclucker | ||
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On February 20 2015 17:31 sicklucker wrote: Koshi - slight town - I recently saw him as mafia and he did absolutely nothing on day1 that I forgot he was in the game. When I qeussed the mafia team after I was out of the game on day 2 I got his two partners correct but I forgot he was even in the game so I didnt include him lol. Hes done quite abit I disagree with some of it but Im fairly sure this is his town game. Oatsmaster - Slight town - A strange oats but a good oats. Hes attacking the cool kids club which I like because I doubt he has the balls for that as scum. Has original ideas Onegu - modkill might even be likely scum by poe VisceraEyes - Scum - Read above posts. Trys to interject himself into a towncircle and says the rest of us have to fight it out WHEN HE IS THE REST OF US. Has contributed nothing to the game that I have seen. Called rayn scum for rayns attack on me which is what I expect town rayn to do. liancourt Slight town - I get the thread scum reads on him hes barely posted but I liked what hes posted outside of the thread between us and helped me defend ls to kurumi. Hes always scum bait and hes doing his role but I think by lian standards hes town so far this game Kurumi Town - Was first to townread him for making the qts. Came up with some crazy plan thats probably garbage but he remind me of me doing crazy stunts and getting townread raynpelikoneet Town - Im getting an overconfident townread from him. He thinks he caught me early last game. While I disagree he thinks so. Him coming after me so early on something so stupid makes him town to me as sad as that sounds geript Null? - Hard time reading him in anygame mislynched him plenty. I liked that he moved ls into his town circle because a mafia should probably never do that since hes an easy lynch. Hes also pretty townread by alot of towns so maybe hes a townlean. Eden1892 Null - Seems to be universally townread for some reason I havent picked up on. Infact I cant really remember anything he/she has said so im assuming townread for things out of thread . Snickers Slight slight town - Koshi seems to think hes some kind of mastermind but I dont see it. He has a long solid filter and agrees with me on ve. LightningStrike Town - Innocent child for life already beat the bush about this. Obviously some of my null or townreads are scum but this is how I see it now. sl why did you says oats was attacking the cool kids club or w/e its called. Wasnt i voting ve at this point and hating on it too? | ||
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[23:23] == Snickers [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #TLMafia [23:26] == Sicklucker [webchat@d24-204-198-28.home4.cgocable.net] has joined #TLMafia [23:26] <Sicklucker> yo [23:27] <Snickers> ok sick lucker what if i am vt cause that is what i am [23:27] <Sicklucker> then koshis lost his mind [23:28] <Snickers> why? [23:28] <Snickers> i am so conufsed [23:28] <Snickers> how the hell is there two scum in this game when everyone looks like fucking scum [23:29] <Sicklucker> No one looks like scum [23:29] <Sicklucker> thats the problem [23:29] <Sicklucker> How is geript scummy? Hes just angry and an assshole [23:30] <Snickers> why did koshi lose his mind if i am vt? [23:30] <Sicklucker> Acualy that means your the green check so I take that back I thought you were saying you were not the green check [23:31] <Sicklucker> it probably means your the godfather [23:31] <Snickers> so i am scum? [23:32] <Sicklucker> thats a scum role [23:32] <Sicklucker> is oats here? [23:32] <Oatsmaster> im here for like 30 more minutes [23:32] <Oatsmaster> i havent seen the thread this morning [23:32] <Oatsmaster> geript should be the lynch today [23:32] <Snickers> okay but you just told me no one looks like scum [23:33] <Sicklucker> It means the scum is in the lurkers most likely [23:34] <Snickers> okay then who are the prs cause i think the prs are the lurkers [23:34] <Snickers> and whos my scum buddy? [23:34] <Sicklucker> the prs are lurkers but theres like 4 lurkers... [23:34] <Sicklucker> so like theres 2 prs and 2 mafia [23:35] <Snickers> so you dont have a case on me, but you think i am the godfather? [23:35] <Sicklucker> Im saying if your vt I think your mafia [23:36] <Sicklucker> If your a role you played this way to look scummy [23:37] <Snickers> i posted something in the thread i want you to answer to in here [23:38] <Sicklucker> done [23:40] <Snickers> okay how has oats had original ideas? [23:40] <Sicklucker> He did [23:40] <Snickers> okay i accept that [23:40] <Sicklucker> oats feel off tbh [23:40] <Sicklucker> could be mafia [23:40] <Oatsmaster> what [23:41] <Oatsmaster> dude what are you smoking? [23:41] <Snickers> who would you want to lynch for day two? [23:41] <Snickers> oats gtfo for a little plz [23:41] <Sicklucker> the oats wants to kill towns weed [23:41] <Snickers> its not like this a public place [23:43] <Sicklucker> Oats [23:43] <Snickers> so whos your top three scum sl [23:43] <Sicklucker> or just kill lian and save the copcheck for ff [23:44] <Snickers> sorry haha i am getting confused [23:44] <Snickers> so you want to kill oats or lian>? [23:44] <Sicklucker> I think if not roles you or kurimi are scum [23:44] <Sicklucker> after that ya [23:45] <Sicklucker> FF has to step it but because by poe I want to kill him [23:45] <Snickers> so you want to kill me or kurumi then when we both dead oats and lian? [23:45] <Sicklucker> Its weird because I cant kill you till I know if your roles [23:45] <Sicklucker> id kill lian or oats to pass the day then I think you guys should claim [23:45] <Snickers> arnt you reading koshi as top town? [23:46] <Sicklucker> yes altho hes wroong [23:46] <Snickers> do you think he is telling the truth about knowing who is the cop and medic? [23:46] <Oatsmaster> i have no idea what in the world you guys are talking about [23:46] <Snickers> oats you dont need to know [23:47] <Sicklucker> of course because hes defending people who dont deserve it [23:47] <Snickers> then dont you think he would guide you to not lynch the lurkers if they were roles? [23:47] <Sicklucker> He also did something really strange today thats imo to protect a role but I wont say what it was [23:47] <Snickers> say it please [23:48] <Snickers> or why not say it> [23:48] <Sicklucker> Which is why im not lynching the roles today [23:48] <Sicklucker> because you could be mafia [23:49] <Snickers> okay [23:49] <Snickers> why do you want to get rid of one lurker then go for me/oats? [23:49] <Sicklucker> I dont wtf [23:49] <Snickers> woop sorryu [23:49] <Snickers> you want to get rid of lian or oats [23:49] <Snickers> why havent you made a caswe on lian or oats [23:50] <Snickers> i dont think you even commented on my case about lian? maybe cause you said you havent read the thread [23:50] <Sicklucker> Ah [23:50] <Sicklucker> when was that day 1? [23:50] <Snickers> yea end of day one [23:50] <Sicklucker> lian hasint posted in 64 hours [23:50] <Sicklucker> I town read him early day1 so no I didnt want to kill im [23:51] <Sicklucker> I remember you and lian made cases on each other but it was out of thread [23:51] <Snickers> no it wasnt [23:51] <Snickers> sicklucker do you see any possibility of me getting lynched today? [23:52] <Sicklucker> I dont really remember it must not have been very good [23:52] <Sicklucker> no [23:52] <Oatsmaster> nah [23:52] <Sicklucker> i will never lynch you today [23:52] <Sicklucker> Not without information I can never have [23:52] <Sicklucker> like you keep asking me the same qeustions [23:53] <Snickers> okay i will ask something else [23:53] <Sicklucker> im gonna go read the filters [23:53] <Snickers> if you think i am scum why havent you been questioning me in here instead of just anwsering questions [23:53] <Snickers> also this is the last question [23:53] <Sicklucker> I have already made my decision on you [23:54] <Sicklucker> your scum if your not a role by your end of day1play [23:54] <Snickers> why are you so agaisnt telling about the koshi pr thing that you wont let it out but you the cat out of the bag about our pms and the kurumi quick topic thing [23:54] <Snickers> what end of day 1 play myvote? [23:55] <Sicklucker> Its something I dont think mafia picked up on [23:55] <Sicklucker> mafia already knows your a potential role because of geript [23:55] <Sicklucker> thats why I posted it after he said those things... [23:55] <Snickers> mafia didnt know about the quick topic ting? [23:55] <Sicklucker> what? [23:56] <Sicklucker> Ill tell koshi not you [23:56] <Sicklucker> im not telling a potential mafia who the second role is [23:56] <Snickers> when did you start reading somebody as scum? [23:57] <Sicklucker> this is boring im going to read filters [23:58] <Snickers> okay thanks for the chat I am so confused. Whoever is town needs to start looking more town | ||
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On February 22 2015 06:50 Snickers wrote: So i kept asking LC why he had a null read on koshi. I thought maybe cause koshi had one post. Prty much he dodged my question but it if I had to say that he did give me an anwser, this was it. I felt like koshi did not post anything important. Not trying to put words in his mouth but yea did not really give me a answer and that is what I took from it. The problem is he gave koshi a null read and wrote a short story about me. But it was all about my first post. And i really dont see how you would think i was throwing games from what i said. So i think he is trying to sway town. Also he says something similar to what Ve is said. I bolded it. Ve voted me but wasntly rly voting me. His vote was prty much "Snickers im voting you so you get motivated to actually do something. " Even though I fooled around a lot LC never bitched again about me fooling around. He has never pmed me. I can see a town player doing that but it adds up. He hasnt followed up anything. He keeps talking about people getting on irc and chat and stuff but when I do, he just blows me off. Even after dodging the question. Also he said I was playing the wrong game if I did not want to pm but it seems like he does not want to pm either. Also his last post talking about him and koshi lynching me is prty bad. Like where the fuck did that come from if he was town. FINAL POINT. What the hell has LC done this is productive in the thread except for that one posts. Personally I dont see anything and even nice players wont be able to see much. The only productive post he made was responding to my question (the person he thinks is scum). So how koshi caught Eden, wouldnt this be the same mess up. His only significant post in the thread was him agreeing with his "scum" read. So Lc start posting some good stuff. I dont see how a decent player would not lynch you if keep this bs up. If you do keep it and and dont get lynched its just cause people somehow are looking scummier. Ok here is my case on lc that i think no one has even commented on. And i am prty sure only rayn commented on my geript post. Anyway I am down to lynch lc cause i dont see one thing he has done that can be read as town. I am not lynching into geript today unless its some close shit. I am lynching sicklucker over geript. I will read ls and decide on him tomorrow. | ||
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Sl over geript cause geript is willing to throw the game is being so fucking emotional. Last time I saw someone like this they were town. It so fucking hard for me to think this, cause i am so sure that he is scum. Also geript seems like the player post game to fucking rub it in ur face. SL cause hes so fucking confusing. Idk if he just a confusing person or that he is scum but his shit is not adding up. People shit can not add up when they are a shit player so idk what he is. Him and ls are both like this as far as I am concerned. and i know people hate people when they suggest shit like this but if sl flips mafia i will feel alot better lynching geript. Oats start being more productive make a case on someone. Instead of commenting on mine. You have asked questions that make you look town but none of your lasting actions make you look town. | ||
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On February 23 2015 15:13 LightningStrike wrote: Koshi told me to check sicklucker or other people and I was having a ton of doubt of sickluckers alignment so that's why I checked him. OFC a green check wont mean shit since there is a likely GF in this game. How the fuck am i suppose to actually believe ls is the fucking cop when he says this? | ||
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On February 23 2015 15:17 geript wrote: You've barely played this game. Take that whiny shit to someone who cares. | ||
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I don't trust anyone in this game. FYI mafia u should prob distrust ur own scum buddy the way this game is going. | ||
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But I need you to be 100% truthful with me or else I am going to assume you mafia for the rest of the game. Did someone claim medic to you? I don't need a name I just want to know if someone did. | ||
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Town read is fucking playing with me the cop ls is fuckkng clueless geript is throwing the gucking game Fucking everyone else isn't doing shit except Ryan who got lynched | ||
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Here is why. On February 22 2015 13:19 VisceraEyes wrote: If anyone has logs from rayn they might be helpful? Knowing you can trust someones opinion to be genuine, while they might not be right, can at the very least give you another trustworthy perspective. Just saying. At least read rayns reads if you don't post them. here is where he said that rayn is confirmed town. So post rayns pm to you. This seems extremely townie. A cookie cutter townie move but it is fluff. This happened 5 hours and 20 minutes after rayn was killed. On February 19 2015 12:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi guys! Gosh what a good day to be alive and in a game of mafia am I right? Geript's posting looks pretty townie, but I have to say him trying to engage me in PMs before I arrive in the thread seems a little desperate. I'll notice you baby, just give me a bit to get acclimated. It's been a long ass time since I've played a PM game O.O here is proof geript pmed him. On February 20 2015 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote: At any rate, it wasn't me because I told rayn in private that I suspected that you might be doing something like this like as soon as you sent me the link. Why would I share it with my scumbuddies KNOWING what you're looking for (having been in the game in question)? here is proof he talked to rayn. So its been way way way longer than 5 hours since rayn and geript died but he has not post them yet. He may have also talked to kurumi I am still reading his filter. Now here is a lie from Ve. On February 20 2015 14:27 VisceraEyes wrote: BTW if you're on rayn's list and you are town, you should do something about it. I would suggest making a case for why one of the others on the list should be lynched instead of you for a start. Here is something he says earlier in the game. On February 20 2015 15:31 VisceraEyes wrote: This post reeks of sensationalism. You're overreacting by a long shot. All I've stated is that my lynch preferences align with rayn's and that if you're town and on that list you should prove it. It's not an unreasonable request, and you reacting this way is really REALLY scummy. He is lying in this post. This was before rayn flipped. He is saying that there are these four player here. It is prty clear all of them could be town cause no flips yet but he is saying to lynch one of them. He is saying push one of these four players because they are likely to get lynched. Hes not asking us to prove we are town. He is telling us how to prove we are town. if we get a red check on ve or we lynch and he flips it makes me not want to not lycn sick lucker/ I am prrty sure rayns list was me koshi kurumi and sick llucker. In my eyes. I am confirmed town. Kurumi is confirmed town. We have a green check onto sl. Koshi is so town to me. This leaves oats ve and lc as possible mafia. ANyway i am out of time but ve has been saying a lot of what ifs and etc and that lynch on kurumi looked so fake with his "reasoning posts" his what ifs are trying to sway people. Ve is scum lets get this over with. When ve flips scum. sl is probably town. yea i know this is a what if but its a real one that can easily hhappen and backed up with proof. and yea a lot of his is cookie cutter town, and no pushing people. Also double check where ve's votes have been i dont got time | ||
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On February 25 2015 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Corrected. So...that means that Snickers as claimed medic did NOT die in the night, instead Koshi dies. Makes this easy enough. ##Vote: Snickers ve your story is falling apart. You will lynch kurumi cause confirmed geript and rayn thought he was scum. But when confirmed koshi says i am 100% town you vote me. Yea okay. And why didnt you vote me when i said you were red. | ||
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If you were really reading what we are outting into the thread you would know he said the odds of it working is low. Get rekt good bye. | ||
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Its all wifom. start making an actual case or you are losing ve. Yea make your first case day four into the thread smooth. | ||
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Second thing is geript was even talking about how the green check is useless. More bad play from you plz continue. | ||
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On February 25 2015 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote: THAT DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING AS LONG AS THE GODFATHER IS STILL ALIVE -.- You probably are town and just really wrong about me. I just hope we lynch the GF so you'll get off my dick. Like you keep on pushing and pushing and pushing on me like you KNOW I'm scum, but there's a fucking green check on me. A FUCKING GREEN CHECK! The very thing you're trying to prove your towniness through right here in this post HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO ME AND YOU'RE STILL ON MY FUCKING NUTS! SHUT UP Snickers. You're being impulsive and ridiculous if you're town - your confirmation bias is making you say really wrong things and you really just need to think about something else. This is just 100% wrong in plan koshi. Do it out on paper. Assume me town FF and LS. Its not the same. I am not bragging i will be the green check. I am saying I found out how to make plan koshi more fool proof and koshi would 100% agree with me. | ||
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Two. I can only be the gf now not a rb. That cuts its in half lol. | ||
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B. its kind of a bad play. C. I would have if I was scum cause it makes me better off but i didnt lol. so what does that make me? town | ||
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And lets assume we dont go through with plan koshi. If we are lynching lc and he becomes gf its autowin so we dont even need more checks just no get modkilled. if we lynch lc and he is rb , checks don t matter. So checks only matter if lc is vt. Maybe that is why they killed koshi instead of medic. Like this is actually plausible because lc was prty much getting lynched today. | ||
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http://webchat.freenode.net/ Channel is Koshi Original Message From Snickers: can we get into a quick topic tho? Hide nested quote - Original Message From Koshi: We will indeed see what happens tomorrow. We still have a misslynch left. What do you think of checking either Oats, VE or FF and then lynch liancourt tomorrow? Or should we check liancourt and if he turns green lynch into FF, VE or Oats? One out of FF, VE or Oats is the doc btw So that makes it even better. I am not going to tell you yet, but after the night I will. I do not think you are scum but you might be fooling me. If you are scum you got me pocjeted though . But I also don't think VE or Oats is scum. FF might be. I really think it is liancourt and sicklucker. But I also really thought it was geript lol......... I think this game is not as bad as it seems on first sight. It is a bit less active but a lot of people have been talking a lot in PMs. The cop and doc are just hiding a bit. LS is not really a game solving pushy player but if you PM him he will talk with you. Original Message From Snickers: okay koshi sorry but this post is super confusing. koshi i just saw you are here start a quick topic wiht me ok koshi this game is going no where without me and you. If we both die what is going to be the saving grace the cop checks? me you ls and who ever is the medic need to talk this out tomorrow in a quick topic. That will leave four people who can be mafia. We need to all be 100% truthful and no funny shit cause town loses this game in any scenario if we dont 100% trust each other. If we are all town and lying we are not going to solve this game at this rate. If one of us is scum or if two of us is scum who cares. We were dealt people who dont feel like putting effort into this game and that is what lead us to this shitty situation. excluding ls cause he is the cop. What the hell has Ve, oats, Lc or sicklucker done in this game. I dont see it. Maybe they are in pm land doing a ton of shit and are just paranoid but they arnt pushing the thread forward. I seriously have read all of their filters multiple times and i dont see shit. Oats hasnt pushed anyone. He has just askes simple question over simple question again and again. Lc has literally done one thing of value in his whole 100+ hours in this game? and how the hell is not lynched. I accept losing this game if some magical way you are scum and some way the medic and cop is lying or one of us is. We dont have options. Like seriously how the hell was lc not lynched yesterday am i completly out of the loop on something. Ve has just shitted up the thread constantly and made shitty comments. Sicklucker has been so passive. He is taking a joyride in the thread. I am probably getting killed at night like I dont see why mafia would not kill me. They know who the cop is. If I dont get killed that would be the 10th WTF moment in this thread so far. * I was typing this. I am leaving this in here cause some is good but i will do the exmaple below Me you, ls and someone really need to start talking about the outcomes of the second night kill. If i get shot, that means as long as the medic stays on the cop, we got lylo with 5 people left starting day four. Worst case scenarios, you and the cop or the medic and the cop will be left. ( assuming we got through with the 100% trusting each other plan) . We will have three checks. I am praying to god that the n1 check is on someone still alive. that means we can get two more checks. If one red shows up then bam we got a mafia. If they are all green this is where we are at. Assuming that onegu is the medic even thogh im 99% he is not. We got to get four people. we eliminate two threw lynch. We can control the lynch. We can tell the other two town to trust us. So we get rid of Ve and oats.(easier said than done) That leave us with lc and sl you/onegu (only one), the cop and * example. I get lynched. we start day three with 7 people left. 3 will be confirmed town. Original Message From Koshi: It's ok tell it to the thread Original Message From Snickers: so i am trying not to avoid voting cause i think that would make me look like i cared about this game. But people need to consolidate. Last night sl told me he was going to stop talking to me and go read filters. If he doesnt mention something specific about filters i would be worried. He may have said something about in the thread, idk just something to look out for. He hasnt rly said he is confused so idk he should be pushing someone or pointing out something. Original Message From Koshi: It's fine. do you think geript is mafia? I think I am convinced by him being a giant dick. Original Message From Snickers: I tried to make it believable but did not want to piss kurumi off do he stopped playing. And I think it matches up with my prior shit. I didn't say a save kinda forgot but idk if it would help. Think it woulda been worse Original Message From Koshi: He is fine with it. You can claim medic. He wont cc. Original Message From Snickers: I think it would be a really good play for me to claim medic. Can you run this by the actual medic so when I claim he doesn't cc in the thread? Original Message From Koshi: True. But we can use another channel next time. I was the one who said that sl told us on TS that he wanted to be checked and I believe sl to be the godfather. VE thinks that as well. I send the PM to LIGHTENINGSTRIKE not to ls. Never make the mistake sending the wrong messages btw Original Message From Snickers: ok koshi sorry for being annoying. I am prob not putting anything else into the thread until the day post. We will see who gets killed or what. I remember somebody said that they thought x was the godfather because he said the "godfather" said to check him and he will show up town.( in a skype call or something) I think the person who said that might of flipped town. If that person was town we lynch into the "godfather" (if x is infact ve or oats) and then check the other? I will try to find this too. I need some confirmation that you actually sent sl that post. I need sl to post it back to me before the night ends. Also if you want me to believe you about ff shouldnt he send it to me too and you send it to him? Other than that maybe useful god father slip, I trust the plan. Hide nested quote - Original Message From Koshi: Damned I got a d/c from IRC. I can't get back on. Strange. Original Message From Snickers: can we get into a quick topic tho? Original Message From Koshi: We will indeed see what happens tomorrow. We still have a misslynch left. What do you think of checking either Oats, VE or FF and then lynch liancourt tomorrow? Or should we check liancourt and if he turns green lynch into FF, VE or Oats? One out of FF, VE or Oats is the doc btw So that makes it even better. I am not going to tell you yet, but after the night I will. I do not think you are scum but you might be fooling me. If you are scum you got me pocjeted though . But I also don't think VE or Oats is scum. FF might be. I really think it is liancourt and sicklucker. But I also really thought it was geript lol......... I think this game is not as bad as it seems on first sight. It is a bit less active but a lot of people have been talking a lot in PMs. The cop and doc are just hiding a bit. LS is not really a game solving pushy player but if you PM him he will talk with you. Original Message From Snickers: okay koshi sorry but this post is super confusing. koshi i just saw you are here start a quick topic wiht me ok koshi this game is going no where without me and you. If we both die what is going to be the saving grace the cop checks? me you ls and who ever is the medic need to talk this out tomorrow in a quick topic. That will leave four people who can be mafia. We need to all be 100% truthful and no funny shit cause town loses this game in any scenario if we dont 100% trust each other. If we are all town and lying we are not going to solve this game at this rate. If one of us is scum or if two of us is scum who cares. We were dealt people who dont feel like putting effort into this game and that is what lead us to this shitty situation. excluding ls cause he is the cop. What the hell has Ve, oats, Lc or sicklucker done in this game. I dont see it. Maybe they are in pm land doing a ton of shit and are just paranoid but they arnt pushing the thread forward. I seriously have read all of their filters multiple times and i dont see shit. Oats hasnt pushed anyone. He has just askes simple question over simple question again and again. Lc has literally done one thing of value in his whole 100+ hours in this game? and how the hell is not lynched. I accept losing this game if some magical way you are scum and some way the medic and cop is lying or one of us is. We dont have options. Like seriously how the hell was lc not lynched yesterday am i completly out of the loop on something. Ve has just shitted up the thread constantly and made shitty comments. Sicklucker has been so passive. He is taking a joyride in the thread. I am probably getting killed at night like I dont see why mafia would not kill me. They know who the cop is. If I dont get killed that would be the 10th WTF moment in this thread so far. * I was typing this. I am leaving this in here cause some is good but i will do the exmaple below Me you, ls and someone really need to start talking about the outcomes of the second night kill. If i get shot, that means as long as the medic stays on the cop, we got lylo with 5 people left starting day four. Worst case scenarios, you and the cop or the medic and the cop will be left. ( assuming we got through with the 100% trusting each other plan) . We will have three checks. I am praying to god that the n1 check is on someone still alive. that means we can get two more checks. If one red shows up then bam we got a mafia. If they are all green this is where we are at. Assuming that onegu is the medic even thogh im 99% he is not. We got to get four people. we eliminate two threw lynch. We can control the lynch. We can tell the other two town to trust us. So we get rid of Ve and oats.(easier said than done) That leave us with lc and sl you/onegu (only one), the cop and * example. I get lynched. we start day three with 7 people left. 3 will be confirmed town. Original Message From Koshi: It's ok tell it to the thread Original Message From Snickers: so i am trying not to avoid voting cause i think that would make me look like i cared about this game. But people need to consolidate. Last night sl told me he was going to stop talking to me and go read filters. 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I can't get back on. I will try to find another chat client. I am at work and irc is blocked. Original Message From Snickers: lol koshi are you playing me... but seriously we have this game as long as no one else gets modkilled and the 1% chance of perfect shit lining up does not happen. Send me another if you can (no topic set) [03:29] == Snickers_ [18653b1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.101.59.29] has joined #Koshi [03:29] <Snickers_> ok koshi how much time do you got about? [03:30] <@Koshi> I just started working so I got 9 hours [03:31] <Snickers_> okay just hear me out then [03:31] <Snickers_> lets assume i get killed tonight [03:32] <Snickers_> for example purposes i am calling ff the medic [03:32] <Snickers_> oh yea can u be 100% serious with me who ls checked day one and what it came back as? [03:33] <Snickers_> that leaves you ff and ls confirmed town. There is two mafia left between lc ve oats and sl [03:34] <Snickers_> lets say we lynch oats and he comes up vt and in the night they kill you [03:35] <Snickers_> that leaves us with ff and ls confirmed town. lc ve and sl have two mafia in them [03:35] <Snickers_> if sl was really the green check [03:36] <Snickers_> then the cop checks ve [03:36] <Snickers_> so we have three confirmed towns there [03:36] <Snickers_> if ve turns up green [03:37] <Snickers_> I have this game solved [03:37] <Snickers_> if me you ls and ff are confirmed town [03:38] <Snickers_> ve or sl. One is town one is mafia [03:38] <Snickers_> lc is def mafia then [03:39] <Snickers_> now this is assuming sl or ve is godfather [03:39] <Snickers_> fuck idk [03:39] <Snickers_> maybe not [03:41] <Snickers_> if we lynch lc [03:42] <Snickers_> lets assume ve is the godfather [03:44] <Snickers_> then ve is either killing ff , ls or sl [03:44] <Snickers_> if he kills sl its auto win [03:44] <Snickers_> so worst case scenario, we still got a 33% auto win [03:44] <Snickers_> assuming me you ff and ls are the town circle [03:45] <Snickers_> if ve kills ff [03:46] <Snickers_> then its ls sl and ve left [03:46] <Snickers_> ls is proven [03:46] <Snickers_> so sl will vote for ve [03:46] <Snickers_> if ve tries to kill ls [03:46] <Snickers_> the medic protected [03:46] <Snickers_> we go into the next day with ve [03:48] <Snickers_> ve ff sl and ls are there [03:48] <Snickers_> that could end in a lost [03:48] <@Koshi> Hmm [03:48] <Snickers_> so ff needs to purposely save scum [03:48] <Snickers_> like koshi this plan [03:49] <Snickers_> even in its worst case scenario [03:49] <Snickers_> is still really fucking likely to win us this game [03:49] <Snickers_> i will seriously write out all of the possibilites [03:49] <Snickers_> and then we can from theere [03:49] <@Koshi> I know. I did the same. [03:50] <@Koshi> But it isn't a sure win yet [03:50] <Snickers_> like think about it koshi [03:50] <Snickers_> if you are town [03:50] <@Koshi> They have a rolecop. So they might just know that you are not the doc [03:50] <Snickers_> thats a good point [03:50] <@Koshi> If they shoot FF today. (he is doc) [03:51] <Snickers_> what does that mean? [03:51] <@Koshi> Then we will still have Oats/sl/VE/liancourt as possible scum [03:51] <@Koshi> And we can only lynch 1 time wrong [03:51] <Snickers_> yea so only go out with this plan if i die [03:51] <@Koshi> I really don't think Oats or VE are scum though and we just lynch lian and sl [03:52] <@Koshi> But w.e [03:52] <@Koshi> Let me PM what I want to do. [03:52] <Snickers_> k [03:53] <Snickers_> for what you sent me earlier i would check oats and lynch lc [03:54] <Snickers_> so koshi as far as you know this is what is real. FF is the medic. Sl is the cop [03:54] <Snickers_> ls is the cop [03:54] <Snickers_> like if ff dies and he turns up not the medic i know it will be bad for me haha [03:54] <@Koshi> yeah this pm is what I will send ls [03:55] <@Koshi> hmm? ff is medic lol [03:55] <Snickers_> ls or sl? | ||
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On February 25 2015 14:52 VisceraEyes wrote: What you have to take note of here is how hard Snickers wants everyone to get onboard with "plan koshi" which is in fact "plan snickers" and ends in lynch townVE. How Snickers tries to confirm himself as town with a greencheck while simultaneously pushing VE who has a greencheck on him. How Snickers tries and fails to prove that VE is mafia repeatedly, and has all game long. That's what is important to remember about this point in time right now. if this town can literally not see how Ve is lying here there is something wrong. I accept losing this game. That or really just doesnt understand me and he is too confident. | ||
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There have been so many people repeating things that are already established. I cant take this game seriously see ya after lynch. No way I am taking my vote off of LC after doing one thing of important in 100 plus hours. | ||
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1. Not plan snickers 2.Not confirming myself with a green check. Not trying to be rude but you must not be smart enough to understand how a green check on me =/= the same as green check on you. 3.Not failing. Town just doesnt care. Who here actually has commented on any of my cases? Rayn. multiple people in this thread are not reading closely and just causing chaos. | ||
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It was not my plan. You are lying to the thread. I dont see how you are not going to get lynched for lying unless LC flips GF. "The green check" you are referring to is when i was talking about how i just showed how koshis plan could be 100% as effective but also lead to checking me instead of wasting a check. "The green check" as you call it is you misunderstanding the fact that "the green check" = improvement of koshi's plan. Only one part of three is true. And who cares if one of those is true out of all of them. | ||
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LightningStrike, FecalFeast, Snickers, (I can pm multiple people at once with TL+) In case I die. Consider telling the thread everything tomorrow on D3. 1) Tell them the 2 checks. 2) Tell them who is cop. 3) Tell them who is doc? (scum got 2 rolechecks in, I doubt it they don't know it, + if they are dumb and kill the doc first, cop gets another check on N3) 4) Give them all the conversations I had with Snickers, pms and chat log. (imo it clears him town or at least a lot townier than Oats/VE) The play tonight is obvious. 1) Doc saves Cop. 2) Cop checks one out of VE/Oats tonight. The play D3 is except what discussed above: 1) We pressure liancourt hard or lynch a possible redcheck. 2) We try to figure out who out of VE or Oats is scum if there is any. 3) We look close at sicklucker because I think he is the gf and liancourt is rb. The play on N3: 1) Cop is useless I think. Because if liancourt is gf we win because we have 2 greenchecks. Or if Cop has a redcheck on VE/Oats the last one is gf... 2) Use your brain guys. Don't be lazy. Don't use information from D4 or D3 only. REREAD D1 and D2. Be smart. Good luck boys. (I really don't think that I will die. But if I will, feel free to also post this in the thread.) plan koshi. And sure go ahead idc. | ||
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THIS IS WHEN PLAN KOSHI IS IN EFFECT. SINCE I AM CONFIRMED TOWN TO MYSELF OF COURSE I AM GOING TO FOLLOW IT. IF LC FLips rb GF its auto win. IF rb flips then checks dont matter IF Vt flips we need to lynch oats but I dont trust this town so I am ignoring oats since he will be confirmed and i am lynching you over sl. Simple as that. | ||
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On February 25 2015 15:16 VisceraEyes wrote: This is where you scumslipped LMAO You must KNOW that LC is going to flip town or rolecop. Because you're setting up a mislynch on me tomorrow. You don't even care that there's a cop, you're not thinking like a townie. The cop might get a redcheck tomorrow night, how do you know he won't? Because you're mafia with all the information. Like, I don't know all these things you seem to know. I just know what's in the thread, and that I'm town. It doesnt matter if he gets the red check. | ||
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Maybe not cause I dont see how this town would consolidate on anyone but Lc since kurumi got so easily lynched. That reminds me we need to look at votes. | ||
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Unless something really big happens this is it in my eyes. There are two scum in you,sl,LC, and Oats. I did the "branches". A green check doesnt mean a green check in every situation. In this situation it is statistically better to lynch into the green checks. And your whole 7x thing prob is wrong cause you need to factor in cop. And you should prob factor in medic too. DO you want me to post the branches out since you are too lazy to figure them out. Which is understandable since why would you do something tedious to understand someone elses thinking. | ||
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Vote count: Kurumi (5): VisceraEyes, Koshi, LightningStrike, Fecalfeast, sicklucker liancourt (1): Snickers, Koshi, LightningStrike, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes Koshi (1): liancourt LightningStrike (1): Koshi, Kurumi Not voting (3):Snickers Kurumi is set to be lynched. Deadline is in 0m 0s. Remember to vote in the voting thread. | ||
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On February 25 2015 15:16 VisceraEyes wrote: This is where you scumslipped LMAO You must KNOW that LC is going to flip town or rolecop. Because you're setting up a mislynch on me tomorrow. You don't even care that there's a cop, you're not thinking like a townie. The cop might get a redcheck tomorrow night, how do you know he won't? Because you're mafia with all the information. Like, I don't know all these things you seem to know. I just know what's in the thread, and that I'm town. And I feel like there is a lot of problems with the post if anyone wants to evaluate it. Or if anyone cares about my opinion. One of them is I dont know who ls is checking. | ||
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Snickers Loathed Branches Plan Koshi edition lynch lc ---------------------------------------------------------Rb----------------------------------GF--------------------------------------------------------VT ----------------------------------------checks dont matter------------------checks dont matter--------------------checks dont matter ------------------------------------lynch sl,ve or oats--------------------lynch oats then snickers(victory)----------------------lynch oats -----------------------------------no medic save = 2 chances----------------------------------------------------------------lynch ve or sl Snickers Revision check Snickers because of doubt Author:Snickers Look forward to our next edition: "Snickers may be scum" | ||
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Snickers Loathed Branches "Snickers may be scum" ediition lynch lc ---------------------------------------RC---------------------------------------------------GF-------------------------------VT -------------------------------------checks useless--------------------------------checks useles--------------check snickers/oats -------------------------------lynch oats,snickers,ve,sl--------------lynch oats,snickers,ve,sl--------If red check lynch red checck ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------if no red check lynch no check --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------lynch ve,sl, (oats or snickers) Author: Snicker Be happy this is our last edition until further notice | ||
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"Snickers may be scum" ediition lynch lc ---------------------------------------RC---------------------------------------------------GF-------------------------------VT -------------------------------------checks useless--------------------------------checks important--------------check snickers/oats -------------------------------lynch oats,snickers,ve,sl-----------------------------autowin--------If red check lynch red checck -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------if no red check lynch no check --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------lynch ve,sl, (oats or snickers) Author: Snicker Be happy this is our last edition until further notice | ||
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On February 26 2015 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay so at the risk of sounding like I'm derailing this lynch, does anyone think this is just a tad too easy? Like, okay imagine for a moment that Lian is mafia. Let's say....the GF. We have a medic alive and a cop alive and if Lian is the gf then the game is literally already over. Whomever is rolecop would be trying to save Lian right now if they had any intention of actually trying to win the game right? So that pretty much rules out Lian being GF to me. He could be the afk rolecop I guess though. Whoever the GF is might feel confident that they can win over me in F3 or whatever...I dont' know, what do y'all think? What I am saying is in that world. Me or oats would have to be trying to stop LC from getting lynched. We are not. You are though. So that makes me see you as gf and LC as rb. Why doesnt it rule out me and oats cannot be the rolecop cause we arnt doing anything to save LC. We know you and sl are not the role cop so that makes lc the rolecop with that thinking. So it works well for you either way and both ways you dont want to lynch the rolecop which is understandable as scum. I think you are the godfather or sl. Its even worse casue I have wanted to lynched lc all game. Thats why it makes no sense. I may have just figured this game out. | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:04 Snickers wrote: What I am saying is in that world. Me or oats would have to be trying to stop LC from getting lynched. We are not. You are though. So that makes me see you as gf and LC as rb. Why doesnt it rule out me and oats cannot be the rolecop cause we arnt doing anything to save LC. We know you and sl are not the role cop so that makes lc the rolecop with that thinking. So it works well for you either way and both ways you dont want to lynch the rolecop which is understandable as scum. I think you are the godfather or sl. Its even worse casue I have wanted to lynched lc all game. Thats why it makes no sense. I may have just figured this game out. I am prty sure ve just did a prty hard to see scum slip. | ||
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Second off do I have to remind you guys there are two scum left so two people are going to be deceiving. Yes I think lc is the rb. But why do u guys seem to just trust each other . Third. Why are u guys wasting time talking about known facts instead of commenting on my case about ve. I have made a case on him that most of is objectively based. I also caught him in what appears from any angle you look at it as a scummy post made out of desperation. But for some reason this thread is filled with rigmarole. Start looking at percentages . Oats u mentioned that you feel like you are getting played. I felt like that was towards me. Just look at the facts. Koshi a confirmed town that has played with me as parity cop has trusted me. I knew who medic was and the medic didn't die. I am prty sure ls And ff trust me. Me and koshi were being 100 percent truthful with each other towards the end. Yea I claim medic and didn't die, but they have a role cop. Koshi told me who the medic was. I never asked him directly who it was. I wanted to form a town circle with koshi the cop and the medic. Look who got invited. This stuff isn't randomly happening. What are the chances that my second game as playing scum, I fooled this many people? Why did I start being 100 percent truthful and trusting koshi? Because I did not trust anyone in this game. I accepted the fact that there was probably a .5 percent chance that koshi was scum, but I didn't have any options because the facts lead to koshi being way townies than others. | ||
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And we are lynching lc. He has done one thing of importance since the thread began. Stop being ridiculous. Don't be fooled by ve defending him. If ve is gf he has good reasons to defend him. | ||
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You are defending him because the gf still has good reasons to defend lc but you were trying to ignore that fact. You talked about so many outcomes but not that outcome. You posted that in the thread when it made no sense to post it. You are calling urself scum through your own logic just like how you said to post the pms of the confirmed towns 5 hours and 20 minutes after rayn died. Also you admitted talking to rayn and getting pms from geript but you still havent posted them. By your own logic you are scum. | ||
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You wrere not asking them to think critically. Just like you never asked people to prove themselves town. You asked them to try and lynch each other. 2/4 have flipped town. You were passively trying to through assumptions into the thread. You never even said that would lead to me and oats as scum. You dont even believe your own reasoning. | ||
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On February 25 2015 07:58 Snickers wrote: Ve is scum. Here is why. here is where he said that rayn is confirmed town. So post rayns pm to you. This seems extremely townie. A cookie cutter townie move but it is fluff. This happened 5 hours and 20 minutes after rayn was killed. here is proof geript pmed him. here is proof he talked to rayn. So its been way way way longer than 5 hours since rayn and geript died but he has not post them yet. He may have also talked to kurumi I am still reading his filter. Now here is a lie from Ve. Here is something he says earlier in the game. He is lying in this post. This was before rayn flipped. He is saying that there are these four player here. It is prty clear all of them could be town cause no flips yet but he is saying to lynch one of them. He is saying push one of these four players because they are likely to get lynched. Hes not asking us to prove we are town. He is telling us how to prove we are town. if we get a red check on ve or we lynch and he flips it makes me not want to not lycn sick lucker/ I am prrty sure rayns list was me koshi kurumi and sick llucker. In my eyes. I am confirmed town. Kurumi is confirmed town. We have a green check onto sl. Koshi is so town to me. This leaves oats ve and lc as possible mafia. ANyway i am out of time but ve has been saying a lot of what ifs and etc and that lynch on kurumi looked so fake with his "reasoning posts" his what ifs are trying to sway people. Ve is scum lets get this over with. When ve flips scum. sl is probably town. yea i know this is a what if but its a real one that can easily hhappen and backed up with proof. and yea a lot of his is cookie cutter town, and no pushing people. Also double check where ve's votes have been i dont got time I am not posting anything else until lc flips this is just insane. I dont want anyone getting modkilled. | ||
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And no I am not reading anything as true when you have been contradicting yourself in your posts and actions. This is the final thing I am saying tilll lc gets lynched. If he flips rb I am lynching into you. If he is gf we know what happens. If he is vt I will think about things. | ||
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On February 25 2015 17:06 Snickers wrote: Final vote count for day 2. Kurumi (5): VisceraEyes, Koshi, LightningStrike, fecalfeast, sicklucker liancourt (1): Koshi (1): liancourt LightningStrike (1): Not voting (1): Snickers Here is day two. Somebody else can do day one if they feel like. I am waiting till lc flips. | ||
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That is why you are making no sense. Its ok for you to lie about leaving the thread but acceptable for you to lie about leaving the thread. Its ok for you to try and grab at crappy scum slips but when I grab at a good one its wrong. | ||
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Suggesting something to the thread that you believe would benefit the town, then not taking your own advice is scummy. Trying to argue about it when it matters a lot instead of when it mattered a little is scummy. Also too many of them, even if seeming to be defended well is bad too. | ||
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On February 27 2015 05:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I have nothing to post. Ergo, it's not scummy for me to not take my own advice. I would have posted logs with rayn if I had them. I requested that anyone who had logs with rayn post them for that reason - because I had none of my own. Please, continue to tell me more LIES about why you find me scummy. yes it is and there is multiple examples. I have posted them all. | ||
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It scummy to be so late to the party stating that. And u dont even mention the geript pms. I never said you and rayn pmed. I said you talked. | ||
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A. by answering me b. telling me who you pmed, I could figure out better if you were being truthful. | ||
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You are getting lynched if lc flips medic . | ||
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I am surprised lc claimed a power role as scum. Isnt his signature move to claim power roles as town? Kinda weird when his towniest thing all game was counter claiming the fake medic. | ||
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Like lynches just dont magically happen like that. Ve is saying how the lc lynch was too ez. No the kurumi lynch was too ez because kurumi was less scummy but somehow still got lynched easier even tho lc was in the game. | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Also, not so sneaky if you "caught" me on D1. Get rekt kid. why not just say you are not sneaky cause i am town lol? | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Also, not so sneaky if you "caught" me on D1. Get rekt kid. Why didnt you say you were town here? | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I actually like this idea - because while I don't think Snickers is necessarily the most mafia person in the game, it would certainly make the game more pleasant for everyone! so ve agrees then tries to fix it with ignoring the part where we lynch him lol. Here is another scum slip for you guys. im ok not lynching the most mafia person in the game even though we will probably lose then. - town ve (yea that makes sense) | ||
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ve has scum slipped multiple time. you are refering to minor scum slips. Ve also did a major scum slip that is even more likely to be true now that lc has fliped rb. Plz mafia gods give me the grace to convince town or give town the grace to find mafia. | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:04 Snickers wrote: What I am saying is in that world. Me or oats would have to be trying to stop LC from getting lynched. We are not. You are though. So that makes me see you as gf and LC as rb. Why doesnt it rule out me and oats cannot be the rolecop cause we arnt doing anything to save LC. We know you and sl are not the role cop so that makes lc the rolecop with that thinking. So it works well for you either way and both ways you dont want to lynch the rolecop which is understandable as scum. I think you are the godfather or sl. Its even worse casue I have wanted to lynched lc all game. Thats why it makes no sense. I may have just figured this game out. here is the major scum slip. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I actually like this idea - because while I don't think Snickers is necessarily the most mafia person in the game, it would certainly make the game more pleasant for everyone! This is the same exact scum slip. Are you being serious. | ||
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If i wasnt here Lc would still be alive cause for some reason you guys trust ve 100%. | ||
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And dont trust the flipped vts. Like you are going to continue to do. Once I flip. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Because they know what you are going to great lengths to not consider - that VE is town. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they're stupid/lazy/don't care. Stop being a BM piece of shit. Classy godfather we got here. Aparently calling people bad is what this warrants. | ||
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On February 26 2015 07:40 Snickers wrote: Snickers Loathed Branches "Snickers may be scum" ediition lynch lc ---------------------------------------RC---------------------------------------------------GF-------------------------------VT -------------------------------------checks useless--------------------------------checks important--------------check snickers/oats -------------------------------lynch oats,snickers,ve,sl-----------------------------autowin--------If red check lynch red checck -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------if no red check lynch no check --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------lynch ve,sl, (oats or snickers) Author: Snicker Be happy this is our last edition until further notice And here is where I poted the branches of If i were scum. Sorry I cant trust you guys because you cant do simple math. But no instead of being a dick I put it in the thread so town could win. Oats thought we were in lylo today. And if you guys were actually smart, you fooled me with this game, like sure maybe you guys are great student in real life. But it only made sense to check me. If you were including both plans. If you only thought I was scum then it is equally a good check to check me oats. Sigh. | ||
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Sorry for being a good player. | ||
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And if you guys actually cared about this game you would see that even before ff decided to throw me under a bus. With your current thinking which had 0% impact from me no matter how well my cases were, we were going to never vote ve in. So yea let ve lie, let ve do scummy things that are super scummy when lc flips roleblocker. Let ve contradict himself. If you guys could read critically you would see that ve is saying one thing which make him look townie but he never follows through. Like I thought he was a bad scum player but no he is relatively good compared to this town. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?page=42#832 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?page=40#790 If you care at all about this game you would atleast read these three links. Like you guys dont understand my meta at all but for some reason that makes me scum or a bad player. | ||
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After town throwing the game day 2 what do I do? I try my best day three to win the game. What happens day three? The town throws the game. Yea my reads were 100% wrong but I wasnt tunneling in that game. I still considering gobble who I was convinced was town. I still evaluate posts even if I have the person is town. I dont tunnel. I am not a bad player. Notice how in this game I realized geript was town? Not because I am scum but because I actually improved from past experiences. Sigh Just lynch me. Dont put me into lylo or else I am going to vote for ve and afk and then I am going to get lynched then anyway. Just realize after this game how poorly you played and improve. | ||
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You guys dont realize that you cant see the outcomes at all even if they are yes or no. You guys already decided that ve isnt getting lynched. And somehow you guys think that THE SECOND TIME I PLAYED SCUM. I could infiltrate a town circle. And I also happen to be the godfather. Like yea that makes sense. If you guys were smart you would realize why would the godfather be pushing a lynch so hard. Why wouldnt he be sitting back and riding this game to victory. Guess who is doing that. ve. Guess who isnt. Me. I could have sat back and let oats and sl attack each other even tho they are both town but no. I decide to push a lynch and no I am probably getting lynched. | ||
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Notice how i said you guys dont realize onegu isnt the medic. Because how else does a person stay alive day one when he doesnt even vote. | ||
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On February 23 2015 14:23 Snickers wrote: No my case is good Sl over geript cause geript is willing to throw the game is being so fucking emotional. Last time I saw someone like this they were town. It so fucking hard for me to think this, cause i am so sure that he is scum. Also geript seems like the player post game to fucking rub it in ur face. SL cause hes so fucking confusing. Idk if he just a confusing person or that he is scum but his shit is not adding up. People shit can not add up when they are a shit player so idk what he is. Him and ls are both like this as far as I am concerned. and i know people hate people when they suggest shit like this but if sl flips mafia i will feel alot better lynching geript. Oats start being more productive make a case on someone. Instead of commenting on mine. You have asked questions that make you look town but none of your lasting actions make you look town. You know here it is if you are even reading what I am posting. | ||
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Fucking lynch me out of this game. Top off your bad play. Like yea snickers the almighty is going to scum slip like that. FF is probably still wrong but why do I care. I will be proven right post game. | ||
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Or we could start with you first. Since you were the one to suggest trusting flipped vts first. I am not even going to tear up ves shitty logic because you guys cant even understand me. | ||
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Yea I am going to lynch into oats sl when you are going to lynch me in lylo. That really makes me scum. | ||
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Realize this. GF would not be pushing a lynch today. He would be hoping aboard the lynch train. Who hop aboard. VE. He said I was not his top lynch yesterday. Ve is such a bad scum player he does not realize that lynching me is the top chance of him not directly losing the game. CAUSE THEN EVERYTHING I SAID WILL BE CONFIRMED. | ||
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I mean you kinda helped push the lynch on me today which is good since its gameover if me or ve doesnt get lynched. | ||
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On February 28 2015 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote: I can't shake this feeling that snickers is the godfather. I even built a case on it. PLEASE ANALYZE THIS CASE BEFORE ACCEPTING IT I DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A MISLYNCH With scrutiny in mind, look at this case: + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2015 07:14 Snickers wrote: Snickers Loathed Branches Plan Koshi edition lynch lc ---------------------------------------------------------Rb----------------------------------GF--------------------------------------------------------VT ----------------------------------------checks dont matter------------------checks dont matter--------------------checks dont matter ------------------------------------lynch sl,ve or oats--------------------lynch oats then snickers(victory)----------------------lynch oats -----------------------------------no medic save = 2 chances----------------------------------------------------------------lynch ve or sl Snickers Revision check Snickers because of doubt Author:Snickers Look forward to our next edition: "Snickers may be scum" He had to re-write this post multiple times. He puts that checks don't matter under each 'branch' even though checks only don't matter if LC flipped rolecop, which he did. Snickers is adamant about the cop checking him even though HE HIMSELF says cop checks are useless. These are a few examples but there are more if you look. On February 25 2015 15:01 Snickers wrote: 1. Not plan snickers 2.Not confirming myself with a green check. Not trying to be rude but you must not be smart enough to understand how a green check on me =/= the same as green check on you. 3.Not failing. Town just doesnt care. Who here actually has commented on any of my cases? Rayn. multiple people in this thread are not reading closely and just causing chaos. On February 26 2015 08:16 Snickers wrote: I am prty sure in any scenario where lc is getting lynched, that cop check goes on me. And depending on what lc flips is if ff needs to 100% save the cop or not. It could lead to autowin. "in any scenario where lc gets lynched" calls for a check on himself On February 26 2015 08:16 Snickers wrote: I am prty sure in any scenario where lc is getting lynched, that cop check goes on me. And depending on what lc flips is if ff needs to 100% save the cop or not. It could lead to autowin. again he asks to be checked. then this: On February 26 2015 05:34 Snickers wrote: I am just saying if Lc comes up rb i think we need to lynch ve after that statement. Such wifom. But you know let me officially check the official "branches" before making an official call. setting up for lian to flip the way he did: TMI? After all these posts he just starts going after VE like he doesn't want anyone to think outside his plans for tomorrow. for example this one: On February 26 2015 16:10 Snickers wrote: I don't understand how I put into the thread all of the outcome if lc gets lynched, but you guys are somehow still talking about then like they are a mystery. Also I can't check cause I am on my phone but I am prty sure u guys are wrong on a few things. Second off do I have to remind you guys there are two scum left so two people are going to be deceiving. Yes I think lc is the rb. But why do u guys seem to just trust each other . Third. Why are u guys wasting time talking about known facts instead of commenting on my case about ve. I have made a case on him that most of is objectively based. I also caught him in what appears from any angle you look at it as a scummy post made out of desperation. But for some reason this thread is filled with rigmarole. Start looking at percentages . Oats u mentioned that you feel like you are getting played. I felt like that was towards me. Just look at the facts. Koshi a confirmed town that has played with me as parity cop has trusted me. I knew who medic was and the medic didn't die. I am prty sure ls And ff trust me. Me and koshi were being 100 percent truthful with each other towards the end. Yea I claim medic and didn't die, but they have a role cop. Koshi told me who the medic was. I never asked him directly who it was. I wanted to form a town circle with koshi the cop and the medic. Look who got invited. This stuff isn't randomly happening. What are the chances that my second game as playing scum, I fooled this many people? Why did I start being 100 percent truthful and trusting koshi? Because I did not trust anyone in this game. I accepted the fact that there was probably a .5 percent chance that koshi was scum, but I didn't have any options because the facts lead to koshi being way townies than others. not only does he say that he has outlined every possible outcome and what to do, he makes a totally uncalled for towncase on himself based on koshi townreading him Do you think koshi would have been townreading snickers if they were both alive today? I mean he could be town and mad that nobody is listening to him, I can get that, but when he says "check me tonight" and his scenarios where he kepts "mistakenly" putting that checks don't matter if LC flipped GF or town it makes me think he had planned past the flip before it happened. I'll grab some quotes actually it's slow atm I wrote the post one time. Checks dont matter lc flips role cop because only god father is left. Checks dont matter if lc is the godfather because we have two days to vote people. CHECKS LITERALLY DO NOT MATTER. YOU LYNCH ME THEN OATS. OR OATS THEN ME. WE HAVE TWO DAYS AND SL AND VE ARE CONFIRMED SINCE THEY ARE NOT RB. AND PLAN KOSHI WAS WHERE THE CHECKS DIDNT MATTER IF HE WAS VT. I REVISED IT AND DIDNT JUST ACCEPT KOSHI AS RIGHT. OMG THE BUS WHEELS THEY ARE CRUSHING ME. | ||
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HOW DID THE CONFIRMED TOWN FF THINK THIS WAS A GOOD CASE. | ||
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YEA CAUSE ITS PLAN KOSHI. I AM ASSUMED TOWN. OMGKJGNUJNDGKLSKGJDGNLDLGkalsnlkdlkLKGFKLLKGNKSFLGLKKLGDLGDKMGLK:DS:MLDGL:S:MLDSML:GKL:MDGMKL:SGD | ||
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THE PERSON TELLING YOU TO LYNCH HIM AT THIS VERY MOMENT. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY | ||
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JUST SHEEP ME TO VICTORY. either today or tomorrow. | ||
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This is how you break vt players legs. I hope ff is a medic irl. so he can come fix them for me. | ||
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On February 28 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote: But you're right, a townie trying to figure out the game is more likely to think that bit is important and not miss it in his branches. I think that shows the post being written from a mafia perspective. THERE IS ONE SCUM LEFT AND SOMEHOW 5 townies missed this. YES THIS ARGUEMENT REEKS OF CORRECTNESS. | ||
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Not really but that is the point. | ||
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Okay snickers 2nd rampage is over. | ||
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So you are not going to honor my dying wish but will me being confirmed convince you to lynch ve. | ||
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Not when its time to make sure accurate info is in the thread. | ||
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Ur preferred lynch target as of today. You dont even realize its worst for you to lynch me. | ||
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You have no clue what logic is. Your own "logic" has fallen upon itself time and time again. | ||
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Thats assuming scum = scumbag. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:44 VisceraEyes wrote: You've been lying about me all game long. LMAO No, You have been lying about me lying. Cause I am being 100% objective when I have said you lied in the thread. Sl, oats and ls plz consider this. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:46 VisceraEyes wrote: BUT YOU'RE CALLING ME MAFIA OATS! AND YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME! AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU NEVER WANT TO LYNCH SNICKERS THE MAFIA!! OMG!!!!! omg the logic in this post is so pure and correct. | ||
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I thought for sure we were policy lynching onegu for not posting since he would not be modkilled. I made that apparent multiple times in the thread. I though the votes were going to consolidate/switch while I had to go for the last hour. I was in the thread asking geript and sicklucker questions but I knew nobody was going to vote them with me so I consolidated on the obvious scummy person. Try again ve. Sad you have to return to some bad points from day one. Or should we talk about how you and eden were the ones voting me at a very opportune time? After rayn voted me. | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:19 VisceraEyes wrote: If anyone has logs from rayn they might be helpful? Knowing you can trust someones opinion to be genuine, while they might not be right, can at the very least give you another trustworthy perspective. Just saying. At least read rayns reads if you don't post them. "Yes i am going to agree with rayn, but only when agreeing with rayn is going to help me and me only" Notice how although I have a ton of respect for koshi, I still agreed with plan koshi even tho I wanted to lynch you ve. Sigh | ||
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Yea at this moment it seems beneficial to me? But are you going to argue that somebody who has been in the game less time. Who has been in the game before checks and only one confirmed mafia? Its objevtively poor play. But that is the only play ve can defend himself with. | ||
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He is causing chaos. He is lying. He is being selfish. Who is not selfish? Snickers because without me you guys would not even have considered ve. Oats and sl would still be choking each other to death. FF's poor case would still be followed by many. | ||
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I gave you chances to look townie before making my case on you. You dont have to return the favor tho.Your case will be so bad it will make me look townie. | ||
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On February 28 2015 15:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Nah I'll just sit here and let the day tick by while the townies win the game. for you?' am I allowed to be childish and point out "scum slips"? | ||
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Seriously ve just keep burying yourself. I caught you in a trap. Either you are lynched or my case on you strengthens by so much. | ||
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Just keep wasting time ve. Keep making them posts. | ||
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That and defending urself. | ||
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You are the one derailing the thread and you just accepted ff's case as true even tho it was objectively wrong. Plz ve try again. | ||
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Or are you still building that case on me? So tomorrow when when you lynch sicklucker oats is going to lynch you and you are allowing your scum read to lynch into you. You seriously do not think things through. Or is it going to be who puts thier vote down first. | ||
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HOW ABOUT DO SOMETHING USEFUL IF YOU ARE TOWN. | ||
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FF"s terrible case on me. You are "tunneling" me now but you cant tunnel because you are the godfather. "OH FF YOUR CASE IS SO PERFECT OMG" Even though its is terrible. His case is so perfect because its on me. Nothing else. | ||
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On February 28 2015 15:53 Snickers wrote: Plz everyone take note that ve is still not trying to put accurate info into the thread. He is causing chaos. He is lying. He is being selfish. Who is not selfish? Snickers because without me you guys would not even have considered ve. Oats and sl would still be choking each other to death. FF's poor case would still be followed by many. This is what I have done today. Probably a lot more. Like oats and sl were tunneling each other so hard they do realize its makes no sense for the godfather to be hardcore pushing somebody. Who hasnt pushed somebody today? You and ls. And ls is confirmed town. Like plz ve keep making terrible points. | ||
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On March 01 2015 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote: What has your play consisted of today? Because that's all you're describing, my play today. And I'm not even only doing what you describe, I'm also PMing with people. Like I don't know what more you think I should be doing. I'm lynching who I think is mafia. He's the leading lynch candidate. PREEEEETTY USEFUL by my count. Ok the godfather could be pming with people. You are not pushing the thread forward. You are lynching who you think is mafia based on ff's terrible case. You are not pushing who you think is mafia. You are not asking me questions. You are not making a case. You are just lying and being lazy and accepting anything that is going to help you lynch me today rather than being proactive. Yea i am the leading lynch candidate but ls hasnt come back yet after realizing ff's case is terrible. And you stated it was perfect. Your reasoning? its so critical? I prove that it is terrible? Your response? "ITS STILL RIGHT BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM, EVEN THOUGH IT MAKES NO SENSE" Yea cause u know I am confirmed scum at this point. | ||
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Then make one for today. And dont forget to mention that ve was the one who defended lc the scum. When lc posted one thing townie in 100 plus hours. | ||
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YOU NEVER EVEN TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS SITUATION. YOU HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THIS GAME STILL. | ||
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On February 28 2015 11:55 sicklucker wrote: This game is hard like. I dont think its ve and I dont like your reasons for scumming him. I think your most likely town from this rant but your focus on one player is troubling. I feel like oats is sitting back thinking he has auto while we fight among ourselfs. Im tempted to put you out of your misery because Id rather lynch you then ve and focus on getting oats if the game doesint end. sicks lucker man work with me please. I am numbering your bolds. 1. Give me reasons why you thin this. The only one you gave was meta but you havent even explained it. I literally have no meta for me being godfather so this only helps ve and destroys me. 2. Plz tell me why. 3. My focus on one player? You are lynching oats tomrrow if I get lynched. I am the one who told you and oats to stop focusing on each other. I have still considered ve. If you are going to trust my meta, I have vt meta where I didnt focus on one player even though everyone thought I was post game. 4. Oats isnt on auto. He is getting lynched tomorrow if I get lynched now. Ve is the one on auto. 5.Again your focusing on one player. The whole reason I am "focusing" on one player is because you and oats focused on one play and that lead us to ve not being focused on at all when you lynch me. | ||
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On February 28 2015 12:07 sicklucker wrote: Ls was always the medic save so killing koshi instead of the medic is standard because koshi is 10x the player ff is. Using the fact you bussed liancourt who didnt post in two weeks as scum is like acualy terrible. Everyone in the godamn world would have bussed liancourt the way he played. I didnt know that. ..... Realize that lc is confirmed scum. Who was trying to lynch him day one. Who was trying to not lynch him when he did one thing to help town in 100 plus hours. | ||
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On February 28 2015 12:43 sicklucker wrote: That rayn read was a good reread. Im at like 60%mafia oats 30%snickers. I still want to get oats today tho Why was it a good reread? If its cause he is confirmed town, that is terrible reasoning. Its terrible anyway because he has experienced so little of this game compared to me. So When I flip vt are you going to trust me more than rayn and lynch ve? | ||
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On February 25 2015 08:30 Fecalfeast wrote: + Show Spoiler [IRC logs sent to me] + From: Koshi [ 21353 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: PM with oats. (boring) Date: 2/24/15 08:36 15:47 *** Koshi joined #Oatsie 15:47 +++ irc.us.ca.mibbit.net set the channel to mode +n 15:47 +++ irc.us.ca.mibbit.net set the channel to mode +t 15:51 *** Oats joined #Oatsie 15:51 Oats hi 15:51 Oats im in 15:51 Oats what is diffrent from this or quakenet? 15:56 Koshi This isn't blocked my our IT 15:56 Koshi by* 15:57 Koshi Sup? 15:57 Koshi I don't have too much time 15:57 Koshi I also don't want to spoil too much about our plans in case you are scum 15:57 Koshi I will tell you that after the night we are planning on saying everything we have in the thread 15:57 Koshi We will say who is doc 15:58 Koshi cop 15:58 Koshi checks 15:58 Koshi conversations 15:58 Koshi Everything 15:58 Koshi And with we 15:58 Koshi I mean me 15:58 Koshi Because I am doing everything here 15:58 Koshi If I die. 15:58 Koshi I will ask others to do so. 15:59 Koshi Maybe I just post it right before EoN 16:04 Oats sup 16:04 Oats whoo gives a shit 16:04 Oats lol 16:04 Oats like how does that help us find the scum that isnt lian 16:09 Koshi PoE 16:09 Koshi Do you know where to look? 16:09 Koshi There are 3 people who can be scum. 4 with lian 16:10 Oats ff 16:10 Oats sl 16:10 Oats ve 16:10 Koshi exactly 16:10 Koshi But I guess others might not be paying attention 16:11 Oats lolol 16:11 Koshi Anyway. We will put everything on the table and we will see 16:11 Koshi Like for us you could be mafia 16:11 Oats hey 16:11 Oats ) 16:12 Koshi I know it is impossible 16:12 Koshi And I go for lian + sicklucker anyday 16:12 Koshi But if it isn't those 2 16:12 Koshi ff has been showing serious townie stuff in irc 16:12 Koshi I will post the loggs 16:12 Koshi I really doubt it is him 16:12 Koshi VE? 16:12 Koshi Come on 16:12 Koshi he makes so much sense 16:12 Koshi Just like you 16:13 Koshi So if it isn't lian/sicklucker 16:13 Koshi It will be insanely hard to pick between you guys 16:13 Koshi And we got only 1 ml left 16:13 Koshi So we got 3 suspects and 1 ml 16:13 Koshi 16:20 Koshi But we win if sl is town and not gf I think. 16:21 Koshi Oh wait no. 16:21 Koshi If VE, ff or you is the godfather we also lose 16:21 Koshi well 16:21 Koshi not win 16:21 Koshi instantly 16:21 Koshi 16:21 Koshi btw 16:21 Koshi We want to lynch liancourt tomorrow. 16:21 Koshi brb working 16:24 Oats k 16:24 Oats yeah of course 16:33 Koshi Anything interesting you wanted to say? 16:33 Koshi Or are you just trying to fish for information? 16:52 Oats i thought you wanted to talk 16:52 Oats also im a bit busy 16:56 Koshi its k 17:02 Koshi just don't get lazy and get lynched for no reason when town is lazy. For the latest news checkout the blog: http://blog.mibbit.com Original Message From Koshi: Here is the entire conversation, it isn't in irc so it is kinda bad to read I think. bad format: 10:07 *** Koshi joined #mafia 10:07 +++ irc.eu.mibbit.net set the channel to mode +n 10:07 +++ irc.eu.mibbit.net set the channel to mode +t 10:07 Koshi test 10:14 *** Snickers joined #mafia 10:14 Snickers well this seems off haha 10:15 Koshi hehe 10:15 Koshi the only one I can connect to 10:15 Koshi I send the PM to LIGHTENINGSTRIKE not to ls. Never make the mistake sending the wrong messages btw 10:16 Koshi You can pm him and ask him if I send him the message. 10:16 Koshi I don't have to pm him to ask him to pm you 10:16 Snickers okay haha 10:16 Snickers do i pm ff too? 10:17 Koshi Hmm you can pm him. 10:17 Koshi I didn't discuss much with him yet though. I feel he will die tonight. 10:17 Snickers yea i just dont know if you were not sending it to him for some reason 10:17 Koshi And if he doesn't. It makes our lives easier. 10:18 Koshi I am not sending anything to ff 10:18 Snickers its makes our lives a lot easier 10:18 Snickers ok koshi I am coming clean cause i dont see how u are mafia and if u are u win lol 10:18 Snickers i didnt claim medic to take the night bullet I did that to see if you actually knew he the medic was and not just messing around 10:19 Koshi lol..... You better don't tell the thread that lol 10:19 Koshi I kinda want you to die 10:19 Snickers oh hell no i dont trust the thread lol 10:19 Koshi Would be a lot easier for me 10:19 Koshi I know you are town 10:19 Koshi But I am the only one it feels like 10:19 Snickers ok koshi like all shit aside 10:20 Snickers i am so glad i started reading geript town cause i picked it up from recalling old games haha I am improving slightly 10:20 Koshi Pff I am sad 10:20 Koshi I don't understand why he started playing so aggressive 10:20 Koshi If he was calm we would have lynched lian mayba 10:20 Snickers i still dont get how lian wasnt lynched 10:21 Koshi Yep. It was a big mistake now that I think of it 10:21 Koshi But I trusted VE and geript 10:21 Koshi dumb 10:22 Snickers like i know town isnt trying casue lc wouldnt be lynched if town was trying 10:22 Snickers there is only two mafia 10:22 Snickers lc woulda 10:23 Koshi Hmm Kurumi wasn't a terrible lynch though 10:24 Koshi As you said. We can still lose this. But we got a good shot at winning as well 10:24 Koshi 60% win, 40% loss 10:24 Snickers so its cool if i message ff about the "plan" post 10:26 Snickers ok worst case scenario could be prtty bad. FF gets lynched. Every town player flips the fuck out since I have been claiming medic. I get lynched. ls gets shot lol 10:30 Snickers koshi what am i suppose to think if ls and ff dont message me back and i die during the night 10:36 Snickers koshi did you scum slip why the hell is ff still up for debate in ur "plan" 10:36 Koshi hmm is it 10:36 Koshi I wanted to type it first to Oats 10:36 Snickers koshi what the fuck 10:36 Koshi In the thread 10:36 Snickers lol 10:37 Koshi But then I decided to pm it to ls 10:37 Koshi he might still on it then 10:37 Snickers koshi ur making this hard for me lol 10:37 Koshi haha 10:37 Koshi Chill out and wait the response 10:38 Koshi I only removed FF his name at the top 10:38 Koshi Forgot it in my examples. Thx. I will correct it 10:38 Snickers i believe u dw 10:38 Snickers cause when you put this guy is prty obvious maifa 10:38 Snickers why the hell would u do that in a pm haha 10:39 Snickers please send me a finalized one too cause i am so confused and i have not been able to read clearly for the last few hours 10:40 Koshi sure. I jsut did 10:41 Snickers ok so we are checking ve or oats tonight 10:42 Snickers like how did i not pick up on that i am too tired 10:42 Koshi Yup. I would do that 10:42 Koshi I need to convince LS though 10:42 Snickers he thinks i am mafia? or he thinks the plan is bad? 10:42 Koshi I think that plan is pretty foolproof but we will have doubt tomorrow 10:42 Koshi No he wanted to check liancourt 10:42 Koshi But I don't think that is the best play 10:42 Koshi Because if liancourt is green we need to lynch into VE/Oats 10:43 Snickers i mean on one hand he is the cop. On the other hand i feel like that is the worst thing to do 10:44 Koshi It isn't too different. 10:44 Snickers i prob sound like i am the godfather and lc is the roleblocker haha 10:44 Koshi Would be insane 10:44 Koshi But possible. 10:44 Koshi 10:45 Koshi We got another day to play anyway 10:45 Koshi stuff will happen 10:45 Koshi anyway, if lc is roleblocker this game is the hardest I think 10:45 Koshi Or town obviously. 10:46 Snickers yea i keep writing out possibiilites but there is 1000 we just need some checks/flips 10:46 Koshi If he is gf we autowin 10:46 Snickers if we do what ls that is? 10:46 Snickers ls wants 10:46 Koshi No 10:46 Koshi Both scenarios 10:46 Koshi Ohno 10:47 Koshi In my scenario in which we lynch lc and he flips gf we autowin 10:47 Snickers cause sl is proven town 10:47 Snickers so ve is mafia 10:47 Snickers or oats 10:47 Snickers depending on who we check 10:48 Koshi yep 10:48 Koshi If we do what LS wants to do. We don't really gain anything except if lian is rb we have an easy time tomorrow. But after that we still got to search in VE/Oats/SL 10:49 Koshi Except when the mafia team is both Oats and VE ofc 10:49 Koshi lol 10:49 Koshi ... 10:50 Snickers koshi lets pretend u die tomorrow 10:50 Snickers is ls and ff going to trust me? 10:50 Snickers dont tell me who ff is saving 10:56 Koshi I don't know man 10:56 Koshi I am vouching for you 10:57 Koshi So that will probably count for something 10:57 Koshi But ff doesn't fully trust me 10:57 Koshi so 10:57 Koshi ls does 10:57 Snickers he doesnt exactly have a choice IMO. like you are town in this game cause no one is acting town except you. how is the top town scum. Yea rayn got shot but still 10:58 Snickers if the top town in the game is scum then just call it a day and give up 10:58 Snickers i sound so negative sorry 10:58 Snickers good thing will happen tomorrow snickers good things 11:01 Snickers so there is 18 possible outcomes with plan koshi/ls/snickers/ff 11:02 Snickers 18 max prob less 11:03 Snickers no i am sorry its 54' 11:03 Koshi 11:04 Snickers koshi for shits and giggles 11:04 Koshi Could you look into Oats and VE and tell me who is likely to be scum? 11:04 Koshi Because that is kinda the real question 11:04 Snickers thats a good point 11:04 Koshi We wont win with mechanics and blues 11:04 Snickers i just dont know 11:04 Koshi Same 11:05 Snickers i trust you dont you have a lot of meta on the,m? 11:05 Snickers ok nvm 11:05 Snickers lol 11:05 Koshi I think Oats is playing his town game. 11:05 Snickers his town game is weird 11:05 Snickers so here let me just say the vibes i get 11:05 Koshi He normally doesn't play as scum. Or he is very shy. At least after D1 11:05 Snickers you know what i put ve as more scum 11:05 Koshi But this Oats keeps playing. I don't think he is scum. 11:05 Koshi Yeah same. I also think VE is more likely scum 11:06 Koshi But VE made SO MUCH SENSE THIS GAME 11:06 Snickers i played with oats scum game before but he got replaced after not talking day one idk if its was a personal issue or what 11:06 Koshi Yeah, normally D1 Oats still plays as scum 11:06 Snickers okay is it bad to read people like this 11:06 Koshi but after that he jsut tries to survive 11:06 Snickers they seem to not know facts that are in the thread so they are probably town 11:07 Koshi Btw. If I would die. 11:07 Koshi Never lazy lynch Oats 11:07 Koshi When we have to pick between Oats and VE 11:07 Koshi And it looks like Oats is afk or bored 11:07 Koshi Pressure VE hard 11:07 Koshi And then in the end switch to Oats 11:07 Koshi But pressure VE 11:08 Snickers wait waht 11:08 Snickers then go back to ve right? 11:08 Koshi No 11:08 Koshi Look what VE says 11:08 Koshi If he gets pissed but still makes sense he is town 11:08 Snickers so pressure ve if he doesnt make sense lynch him but if he does lynch oats 11:08 Koshi I jsut don't want people to vote Oats and afk. Because town Oats sometimes afk as well 11:09 Koshi He just got warned in the banlist thread for not voting 11:09 Snickers you need to tell that to ff and ls too 11:09 Koshi I think in Imperial he got lynched D3 because he didn't do ANYTHING D3 11:09 Koshi 0 posts 11:09 Koshi or 1 11:09 Koshi ok I will copy this part and pm them both. 11:10 Snickers oh you are talking about prior games he got warned 11:11 Koshi Yes. As town Oats sometimes also jsut totally abandons the game 11:12 Koshi If he keeps playing hard he is probably town. But if he totally disappears it doesn't mean he is scum. 11:12 Koshi This is all meta though 11:12 Koshi ... 11:12 Snickers make sure to send this to ls and ff or just tell them that part so they def get it 11:13 Snickers cause no one people are going to listen to me solely 11:14 Snickers okay this may be a stupid question but i am out of it. 11:14 Snickers if ls gets a red check we lynch him right away right? Like we know for sure he is town but do we maybe play sneaky or no? 11:15 Koshi haha 11:15 Snickers him refers to red check 11:15 Koshi We could play sneaky 11:15 Koshi Let's pray we get one : 11:15 Koshi 11:16 Koshi I need to get some work done 11:16 Koshi So I wont check in every minute 11:16 Snickers thats fine 11:17 Snickers i will recap my shit then i am going to bed 11:23 Snickers Okay oats is more town but very slightly. I will try to reread his filter closely. I am comparing him to ve. I think it is a better play to check into ve/oats instead of lc cause lc doesnt have a filter. ve and oats do. Think about this koshi I am not 100% sure if I am right. So yea I would check ve and we all vote lc tomorrow. Unless mod kill, worst case 11:25 Snickers scenario is that we have a guranteed 3 votes onto lc so we will just need to convince 1 townie out of two to vote with us and that is assuming all three other plays vote a different player. If a miracle happens which i dont exactly know if this is a good miracle (yes i am making sense) 11:26 Snickers it is most important that as soon as the night kill was healed, we all four come in a vote lc 11:26 Snickers gurantees lc is lynched 11:26 Snickers just come in and say this is for prsssure or w/e down say anything about the plan 11:27 Snickers also its one of us do die, it is alot more easy to convince people to lynch lc than ve/oats, i think sl likes lc but really how are you not going to lynch lc 11:27 Snickers *same player not different player 11:28 Snickers peace koshi 11:29 Snickers pm ur thoughts if you want send this to ls if you want. do w/e you think is good. I dont want to tell ls what to do cause he did role cop but that is my two cents if it changes ur mind 11:32 *** Snickers quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) For the latest news checkout the blog: http://blog.mibbit.com + Show Spoiler [my pm thread with koshi] + Original Message From Koshi: Don't be an idiot. It's not because he might be town that I am suddenly mafia. I lynched Eden on my own. 100%. Nobody helped me. I am the doctor, snickers fakeclaimed to keep me alive but it seems that didn't work out exactly as planned. Out the checks please I don't actually know them at this point | ||
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On February 28 2015 13:18 sicklucker wrote: Ok but I dont think that was a slip he just thinks or wants us to think that he thinks ve is 100% mafia I already said this but I am stating it again. No I dont want you guys to confirm ve 100% town. I cant trust you and oats to not come at each others necks tomorrow. I know me flipping vt wont be enough. | ||
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Tell me what the hell I have to do. | ||
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Look who has the most logs with people in this thread? How many hours did I talk to koshi. I havent seen any logs in awhile from ve. I wasnt even doing logs till around geript died. | ||
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On March 01 2015 12:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Just die. Like you said you wanted to. Prove that you're town with a rope around your neck. Bleed townie green, and we'll believe you. Perfect reasoning. Trust this guy who made 0 cases all game. | ||
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You dont even realize that if I dont get lynched or you dont get lynched by my perspective we lose. I dont have a choice cause no one in this town is listening to me. LS IS IN THE THREAD BUT HE IS STILL SHEEPING LS"S CASE. | ||
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Let me care about cases when they help my ends. | ||
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Yea its so bm saying someone is bad at this game When people dont even bat an eye at someone lying. Which is the entire point of being scum. | ||
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You are so cute ve. Yes when geript did the same thing snickers, who is confirmed town,it doesnt affect you at all. But rayn's case does. nice selective hearing ve. Perfect scum play its impossible to see. | ||
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SOMEONE GIVE ME ANSWERS YOU ARE TREATING ME LIKE A CONFIRMED SCUM. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO NOTHING TODAY THEN LYNCH VE TOMORROW SINCE YOU SCREWED ME TODAY. | ||
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Then sicklucker over here who thinks he understands me 100% and understands this game 90% doesnt understand anything I am saying or doing in my posts. Not even oats understands me. | ||
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Rayn was a talkative player. Any good scum would of killed him cause look at how dead this thread got without him and koshi. He was forming town circles and shit. Or you know it could of been a blue snipe. Never tunneled you. But you are tunneling me today. and i really dont see how that makes me scum. Okay i called you the godfather when greeen checked? and look where we are today. The green checks dont matter. The green check is the one who defended ls and had false actions with scum logic. Koshi thought I was more town than you nice try tho. And honestly ve didnt think you were town. He was suspicious of sicklucker but was equally weary of you and oats. Prty sure he told ls to check you not oats. Okay rayn the player who had less knowledge in this game thinks you are town. Nope didnt convince oats. You only reference the flips that help your case. The lc flip makes you look scummy as anything but lets ignore that like everyone is going to ignore my flip. | ||
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Give me good reasoning why you are lynching oats. you have given 0 reasons for lynching me. You went from I am not ur top lynch ---> FF's shit case ----> I am your top lynch ---->> ff's case is confirmed shit --->>> I am still your top lynch but no reasoning. Yea this play really adds up and is not agenda based. | ||
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Treat me like an equal? Or are you going to dodge. | ||
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You posted a post talking about how the lc flip seemed to easy. You said somebody should be in here defending him. But by that logic me or oats would have to be defending him cause you were assuming him as godfather. Then casually said he could be the afk rb. All of the stuff you said was wrong. Me and oats were not defending him. That is a terrible way to say we should not lynch sl. You never even waited most of the day too see if someone would defend him. I call you out on it and then lc flips rb. How am I not going to see you as godfather. From you post I was 99% sure lc was going to flip rb and you were going to flip godfather. Ofc I am ok lyncing into green checks in that world. And people shouldnt be so pissed lynching into green checks. Its one of those rules mafia players hold so highly but it has exceptions and needs. SO snickers(me) ve oats sl ls lc ff. ff and ls are confirmed town since no cc. me ve oats sl lc. Since I am town I am going to get me out of it. I am not saying I am town, I am saying that I know I am town. we have ve oats sl lc. Now I dont know about oats but here is two reasoning I had and they are both sound. 1.so we have two green checks. if lc is the godfather the game is over. I wasnt letting this discourage me from continuing to put effort into the thread. I am prty sure lc is scum so he is the rb. my conclusion, Checks probably dont matter. 2. Also statistically speaking there was a 50% chance that one of the green checks were the godfather since two were checked. You cant just rule that out. Also you dont just play by statistics. The checks were probably going to go on scummy players. So in reality it is higher than 50%. | ||
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On March 01 2015 13:15 VisceraEyes wrote: The reason I want to lynch you is that your tunnel coincides with rayn dying after being suspicious of you. Like, you can call that whatever you want. I think it makes you mafia pushing a mafia agenda. Koshi thought mafia were going to try and push me. He told me this in PMs. And now you're pushing me, and calling it "plan Koshi" lmao. It's just overwhelming, the evidence against you from my perspective. FF died thinking so as well. Rayn died thinking so as well. come on ve. I cant take you seriosly with these posts. after multiple days, nights and pms you are calling oats scum after one incident? Post the pms. How have you not posted them yet. Now you just admitted to lying again. You were acting like it is good to post confirmed town's pms in game but here is another time of you not doing it. .... No I am pushing you cause I think you are scum. Plan koshi really does not matter anymore since no one thinks I am town, not even the former town circle residents and plan koshi did not call for pushing you. I dont get how you hold rayn in such high regard? Why are you not lynching sl tomorrow since rayn wanted to lynch him? Why is it oats before sl even tho you said oats only did one thing scummy ? But rayn wanted sl to die. Like was rayn reading oats as scum? I dont even know. FF said to analyze his case which no one did besides me. I proved it wrong. You cant be this far into the game with soo little reasons to lynch someone, reasons that conflict with each other, and reasons that are false. | ||
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But why do you lynch oats over sl if you trust rayn. Doesnt add up. | ||
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he said to lynch you when I pressure you and you make no sense. Sorry for trusting the confirmed towns all the time and not when it is good for me. | ||
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On February 28 2015 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn had me as most solidly town. Most solidly. In no world do I get rayn to write a book about how town I am, "infiltrate" the town circle, and then kill the member who has me most solidly town. Everything Snickers says about "trust the dead people who are town" is invalid while he's trying to lynch me because everyone who has died, except for geript the moron had me as definitely town. Lynch the scum, win the game. ##Vote: Snickers | ||
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Ve wants to lynch oats for one reason. Or atleast that is all he will tell the thread. One of ve's reasoning for voting me is that rayn read me as scum. Rayn also thought sl was scum and that oats was town. But he does not factor these two reasons for the lynch tomorrow? Why because how does he avoid his lynch tomrrow? Voting oats and not sicklucker. He is out to avoid his lynch. Not to trust rayn. Not to catch scum. | ||
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Now I have figured out two that ve has done. Probably there has been a lot more? Are you guys going to start treating me with respect or are you going to ignore me and trust ve 100%? | ||
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Tell me one thing you did today that doesnt defend urself. Why do you give me one reason you are voting oats but oats said rayn is town but you hold rayn in high regard. | ||
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Why do care you complaining about me tunneling if I am the godfather in your eyes. | ||
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Town snickers saw there was no way of you dying in lylo so why would I worry about lylo when I think you are godfather. Which is funny because I have probably thought the most about tomorrow since I saw you were 100% confirmed town by peoples actions. | ||
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Cause you are scared to post in the thread cause look what happens. Convincing oats to lynch me is a defense. Sorry. Wow look at how far you have to grasp for a reason to read me scum. THIS NEVER HAPPENS OMG META OMG. Its wifom for you to say this. I cant wait post game, If I win or lose, I still played this game the best since koshi died. | ||
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And yes let me explain it again since everyone is fill in the blank. If I was not here. Oats and sl would still be trying to kill each other. I would of gotten lynched. You would of never even been considered because oats and sl are so stubborn. And you woulda lynched into whoever was more easy. That is acting like you are 100% confirmed town. It will probably still happen cause you know This pro town play we got going here. | ||
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Oh the irony. The irony. The irony. | ||
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The irony. | ||
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The irony. | ||
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But it that really the towniest thing you can say at this moment? | ||
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Like holy bleep. | ||
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On February 28 2015 13:45 Snickers wrote: I wrote the post one time. Checks dont matter lc flips role cop because only god father is left. Checks dont matter if lc is the godfather because we have two days to vote people. CHECKS LITERALLY DO NOT MATTER. YOU LYNCH ME THEN OATS. OR OATS THEN ME. WE HAVE TWO DAYS AND SL AND VE ARE CONFIRMED SINCE THEY ARE NOT RB. AND PLAN KOSHI WAS WHERE THE CHECKS DIDNT MATTER IF HE WAS VT. I REVISED IT AND DIDNT JUST ACCEPT KOSHI AS RIGHT. OMG THE BUS WHEELS THEY ARE CRUSHING ME. | ||
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But you do not understand me at all if you think those are my opinions. They are facts. | ||
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O m g I scumslipped. How do you guys not notice me the whole game but when I hard claim I get noticed Wow I am not the best player here. | ||
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Where is ls 5 hours from lynch. Prty bad if he doesnt do anything substantial for a whole day. | ||
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On February 23 2015 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote: A tunnel is shorthand for "tunnelvision". You're not reconsidering your read on me at all, in spite of evidence to the contrary. | ||
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You didnt notice that logs were posted and you posted them anyway. But you care about a wifom statement. Thanks for screwing me over ls. | ||
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The world will never know. | ||
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[13:19] == nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [13:19] <nooblet> game of throws [13:19] <nooblet> towns gonna lose because they are lazy and stubborn [13:19] <nooblet> gg | ||
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Sicklucker you dont read someone as town because you have the same thoughts. You only told me one of them but I showed you why is was wrong. Start with those ways to improve your play. From you self imposed coach snickers | ||
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On February 28 2015 13:45 Snickers wrote: I wrote the post one time. Checks dont matter lc flips role cop because only god father is left. Checks dont matter if lc is the godfather because we have two days to vote people. CHECKS LITERALLY DO NOT MATTER. YOU LYNCH ME THEN OATS. OR OATS THEN ME. WE HAVE TWO DAYS AND SL AND VE ARE CONFIRMED SINCE THEY ARE NOT RB. AND PLAN KOSHI WAS WHERE THE CHECKS DIDNT MATTER IF HE WAS VT. I REVISED IT AND DIDNT JUST ACCEPT KOSHI AS RIGHT. OMG THE BUS WHEELS THEY ARE CRUSHING ME. | ||
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I am the one joining the irc being a donkey. | ||
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Such a deep thought. confirmed town ve. | ||
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Sl and ls are willing to lynch oats. | ||
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Now you are just trying to make yourself look townie by acting like a matyr. Didnt you say it looked bad when I was doing that? | ||
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You have already used confirmed towns as something to defend yourself but then when it hurts you, you ignore it. If you are town, I cant trust you based on stuff from confirmed towns. | ||
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Why did you just peace like that. | ||
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Dw ve I got you. | ||
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LET VE"S THOUGHTS LIVE ON IN MY BODY. | ||
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ve was looking super towny in that irc. That was fo sho. But that would of been suicide to say that until the last few mins if you are catching my drift. | ||
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You guys were suggesting to me that lets lynch oats today and then if he doesnt flip scum were going to hang you snickers. Yea I am not agreeing to that. | ||
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And that is what I was doing. Going for the best chance to lynch scum or directly lynching them. | ||
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On March 03 2015 13:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Why would you do that? Again, guys think, why would I stupidly go for town ve as scum when I can go with the flow and get town snickers so I don't stand out so much. It makes 0 fucking sense. You need to elaborate on this a lot more. . i am prty sure if I got lynched then you would of gotten lynched today | ||
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you so scum but search nuke in the tl search bar haha | ||
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I have never been more confused over something my entire life. This game... | ||
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[13:11] == Snickers [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [13:19] == nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [13:19] <nooblet> game of throws [13:19] <nooblet> towns gonna lose because they are lazy and stubborn [13:19] <nooblet> gg [13:19] <@Snickers> who is this lol [13:21] == nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout] [13:30] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [13:30] <@Snickers> oh hello [13:30] <@Snickers> look at ur inbox [13:32] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] [13:32] == realname : http://webchat.quakenet.org [13:32] == channels : #snickersthecandybar [13:32] == server : *.quakenet.org [QuakeNet IRC Server] [13:32] == End of WHOIS [13:33] <LightningStrike> lol [13:35] <@Snickers> ls what are you doing [13:37] <LightningStrike> Playing rs [13:38] <@Snickers> how about you dont screw up this mafia game [13:42] <LightningStrike> Me and FF the night FF died talked a bunch about you esp about his case on you [13:42] <@Snickers> ls I already showed how the case is shit? Did you not read it? [13:42] <@Snickers> and why the hell would you not talk to me if you thought I was scum [13:43] <LightningStrike> lazy [13:43] <@Snickers> ls ff's case made no sense [13:43] <@Snickers> I already talked to sicklucker he thinks ve is town because they have the same thoughts [13:43] <@Snickers> why do you think ve is town? [13:43] <@Snickers> or do you think I am more scummy [13:44] <LightningStrike> I think VE is town with my talks with him he seemed very genuine to me and I talked with Koshi on him [13:44] <@Snickers> ls look at ur inbox [13:44] <LightningStrike> Koshi said that if VE is Mafia this was his best game ever as Mafia [13:44] <@Snickers> no its not [13:45] <@Snickers> you, sl, and oats seem to not understand how this game works [13:45] <LightningStrike> Oats is a vet [13:45] <@Snickers> well he is bad at this game, sorry [13:45] <LightningStrike> sicklucker he's very hard to play with from my experience with playing with him as either alignment [13:46] <@Snickers> Even tho I told sicklucker in the thread I never voted for him day one, he finally realized I didnt do that last night [13:46] <@Snickers> ls stop being lazy [13:47] <@Snickers> why are u treating me like confirmed scum [13:55] <LightningStrike> rechecking the case [13:56] <@Snickers> i will repost in the threrad [13:56] <@Snickers> my points about it [13:58] <@Snickers> There are others reasons why it is wrong but I posted them several times, I will tell you them again if you want [13:58] <@Snickers> notice how ff put stuff in there 100% wrong and ve thought it was a good case [13:58] <@Snickers> he didnt double check it [13:59] <LightningStrike> Then why you keep on telling me to check you if checks don't matter if lc flips rc? [13:59] <@Snickers> I meant specific checks dont matter [13:59] <@Snickers> and ls in that branch [13:59] <@Snickers> checks dont matter [13:59] <@Snickers> at all [14:00] <@Snickers> it was the other branch where I meant specific checks dont matter but I was saying in the thread it is better check me over oats if you belive both plan koshi and if you thought I could be scum [14:00] <@Snickers> ls you need to understand those branches [14:00] <@Snickers> checks dont matter at all [14:01] <@Snickers> and I put checks do matter just because I knew people were not going to think I am 100% town but koshi did I revised it koshi was the one who thought checks wouldnt matter if lc flipped vt [14:02] <LightningStrike> bad thought from Koshi if he really thought checks wont matter if lc flipped VT because then I can check someone and hope for a red check [14:06] <@Snickers> they dont matter if u think I am 100% town which is whathe thought [14:06] <@Snickers> oats is def the rc [14:07] <@Snickers> and ve or sl is the godfather [14:07] <@Snickers> You do realize the checks dont matter right? [14:07] == Nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [14:07] <@Snickers> hi nooblet [14:08] <Nooblet> I'm psychic and can predict the future - You/Snickers gets lynched flip VT - GF shoots LS tonight - Oats votes VE - SL and VE vote Oats - Oats gets lynched flips VT - Mafia wins gg [14:08] <@Snickers> nooblet you need to tell me who you are to get ur invitation sent to u [14:08] <LightningStrike> Nooblet is you lol [14:08] <@Snickers> no shit [14:08] <@Snickers> I know that [14:08] <@Snickers> he is acting like me [14:09] == Nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [14:09] <@Snickers> so ls are you smart enough to figure out the checks dont matter after I explained it 2x or more [14:10] <LightningStrike> checks wouldn't matter had lc flipped rb but they would if he flipped vt or gf [14:12] <@Snickers> no they wouldnt [14:12] <@Snickers> if he was the godfather [14:12] <@Snickers> ve and sl are confirmed town by green checks [14:12] <@Snickers> we have two lynchs left [14:12] <@Snickers> you lynch oats then me or me then oats [14:12] <@Snickers> if he was the vt [14:13] <@Snickers> you lynch oats [14:13] <@Snickers> oats is confirmed the rb [14:13] <@Snickers> ve or sl is the godfather [14:13] <@Snickers> I am sorry you are wrong [14:13] <LightningStrike> I can shannie onto Oats [14:13] <@Snickers> ... [14:13] <LightningStrike> if enough people get on him [14:13] <@Snickers> no you lynch ve [14:13] <@Snickers> why oats? [14:14] <LightningStrike> by poe for me you and him are more likely Mafia [14:14] <@Snickers> omg ls, ve is so obvious the godfather holy shit [14:14] <LightningStrike> how is he obvious gf if he isn't obvious to me or the rest of the thread? [14:14] <@Snickers> do you not understand my points on why ve is the godfather? [14:15] <@Snickers> I had to explain to you multiple times why the checks dont matter [14:16] <LightningStrike> well make a large case on him for your legacy post then if you are town [14:16] <@Snickers> ... [14:16] <@Snickers> why the fuck would I do that, you guys dont listen to me at all [14:16] <@Snickers> and you guys dont listen to koshi the confirmed town [14:16] <@Snickers> you guys are literally fucking me in the ass 100% [14:16] <LightningStrike> Because you would be confirmed town if you flip town [14:16] <@Snickers> .. [14:16] <@Snickers> u guys dont listen to confirm town [14:17] <@Snickers> koshi said I was 100% town [14:18] <@Snickers> first off ls, you are most likely dying in the night [14:19] <@Snickers> poe is not a good enough way to find scum this late in the game sorry [14:19] <@Snickers> ve has one reason for voting oats [14:19] <@Snickers> thats not how you play this game [14:20] <LightningStrike> wait lets shannie onto sl [14:20] <@Snickers> no [14:20] <@Snickers> omfg [14:20] <@Snickers> why not ve [14:21] <LightningStrike> koshi by poe got to sl ff(medic) and lian(RB) [14:21] <@Snickers> how do you and sicklucker think ve is so fucking town [14:21] <LightningStrike> and called oats 100% town [14:21] <@Snickers> dude koshi told me [14:21] <@Snickers> to pressure ve and if he got mad but still made sense he is town [14:21] <@Snickers> ve is not making sense [14:22] <LightningStrike> I can yolo towards EoD [14:22] <LightningStrike> how long till EoD? [14:22] <@Snickers> What does that even mean [14:22] <@Snickers> and this day ends in 3 hours and 40 mins [14:22] <LightningStrike> I can switch to VE towards eod [14:23] <@Snickers> ok ls listen to me a bit longer [14:23] <LightningStrike> also I found it weird that just before dieing this was Koshi's last post : If I die. Liancourt Sicklucker VE Oats Rest is town 100% certain TL+ Member [14:23] <@Snickers> filter If I die. Liancourt Sicklucker VE Oats Rest is town 100% certain [14:23] <@Snickers> yea [14:23] <@Snickers> that is what I am looking at now [14:23] <LightningStrike> so he saying lynch VE [14:23] <@Snickers> yea [14:23] <@Snickers> cause if ve is not lynched today he is not dying at all [14:23] <@Snickers> I thought me flipping vt would be enough but it is not [14:24] <@Snickers> I fucked up rly big and thought for sure you were dying [14:24] <@Snickers> but there can be a confirmed town left and still lose [14:24] <LightningStrike> the save was going ot be on me as I talked to FF about it [14:24] <@Snickers> what save? [14:24] <LightningStrike> doc save [14:24] <@Snickers> the saves only make sense on you I think [14:24] <LightningStrike> yeo [14:24] <LightningStrike> yep [14:24] <@Snickers> ff had prty good reasons [14:25] <LightningStrike> because geript decided to let mafia know I Was cop [14:25] <LightningStrike> before getting modkilled [14:26] <@Snickers> so do you agree ff's case on me is shit? [14:28] <LightningStrike> it does make some sense [14:28] <@Snickers> no it doesnt [14:28] <@Snickers> tell me how [14:29] <@Snickers> the three points we discussed do not [14:33] <@Snickers> I really dont believe you would yolo ve. I dont see why you would not just vote for him now and see how he reacts [14:40] <@Snickers> ls you are scaring me by afking for along time [15:00] <LightningStrike> Happy now? [15:05] <@Snickers> I meant like the way you are playing it seems like you really dont think ve is scum, but you were saying you might yolo him [15:05] <LightningStrike> I voting him [15:06] <@Snickers> ok ls, I am not trying to be a dick but you do realize how ff's points we talked about dont make sense? You are not playing with me right? [15:08] <@Snickers> hmm my other comp shut off I guess [15:08] <@Snickers> Or maybe you can only afk for so long [15:22] <LightningStrike> lol [15:23] <@Snickers> I will be in this irc the rest of today(as in the mafia day). [15:42] == Nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [15:42] == Nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [15:50] <@Snickers> I feel like you are pming ve talking about yoloing me [16:00] == sicklucker [webchat@d24-204-198-28.home4.cgocable.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [16:00] <@Snickers> why hello [16:03] <@Snickers> sicklucker care to tell me anything else you and ve thought the same about [16:06] <sicklucker> sure let me see its been a week [16:07] <LightningStrike> I didn't pm VE about yoloing him [16:07] <sicklucker> The oats thing for one [16:08] <sicklucker> "Alternatively I could lynch Oats. He similarly assumed that LC was the rolecop before the flip." [16:08] <sicklucker> this part oats knew he was flipping rolecop. I understood your logic that ve is gf but oats had no same logic [16:09] <@Snickers> let me look into it [16:09] <sicklucker> Snickers can we lynch oats today? I promise ill lynch ve if im wrong [16:10] <@Snickers> well [16:10] <@Snickers> lets look at it from another angle [16:10] <@Snickers> what if me ls and you agree to lynch oats tomorrow no matter which one of us dies [16:10] <@Snickers> ? [16:11] <@Snickers> I dont trust oats. I dont even understand why he is voting ve [16:11] <sicklucker> Well I hope thats the discussion because I think you and ve are likely town but I dont want you to prevote an get nked ;p [16:12] <sicklucker> but then again oats isint here [16:12] <sicklucker> Hes voting ve because he can use the koshi said kill me case in final 3 to win [16:13] <sicklucker> Like he scum reads me all game why doesint he want me out asap if hes town? [16:14] <@Snickers> idk sicklucker, like I have said I saw there was no way ve was getting lynched unless I went batshit crazy. He was my top scum read. [16:14] <@Snickers> I have been focusing on that [16:14] <@Snickers> But it the back of my mind all game I have thought oats has been playing scummy [16:15] <sicklucker> whens the vote? Dont think it matters [16:15] <@Snickers> 1 hours 45 mins [16:15] <@Snickers> you mean the end of the day right? [16:17] <@Snickers> Ve gave on reason to lynch oats. That is way more scummy than what oats did but let me keep looking at it. [16:17] <@Snickers> I think ve's reasoning has a big fucking hole in it [16:17] <@Snickers> oats could of thought you were the godfather sl [16:17] <@Snickers> and that matches up with he thought u were scum all game [16:18] <@Snickers> I am just basing it of of this post [16:18] <@Snickers> On February 27 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Like from my perspective Snickers (as town) has a reason to assume that LC will flip Rolecop and it's because he's "made up his mind" that he thinks I'm GF. His confirmation bias has that fact just lodged in his brain. That's not the case where Oats is concerned, he isn't currently assuming I'm guilty with a greencheck on me, so he can't make the connection that LC must be the Rolecop. That's why Oats is suspicious for [16:18] <@Snickers> woops [16:18] <@Snickers> i meant this post [16:18] <@Snickers> This is my current reasoning for wanting to lynch Oats. He, like you, unreasonably assumed that we're lynching into greenchecks after Liancourt was lynched. Both of you exhibited signs of KNOWING Liancourt was going to not only flip mafia, but flip mafia Rolecop BEFORE he actually flipped. Oats in his explanation of what he wants to do next day, and you in your absolutely asinine tunnel of me in the face of overwhelming evidence. [16:18] <@Snickers> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=99#1962 [16:19] <@Snickers> let me go read oatsfilter [16:22] <@Snickers> I cant tell if ve is pming you guys but if he doesnt post anything in the thread thats objectively scummy [16:23] <LightningStrike> rolf VE is now messaging me to not vote him lol [16:23] <@Snickers> cause ve is a bad gofather [16:23] <@Snickers> that is why [16:24] <@Snickers> look at his latest defense [16:24] <@Snickers> which is 100% wifom [16:24] <@Snickers> snickers claimed godfathero mg [16:24] <@Snickers> he is just panicing cause he has nothing to defend himself with [16:25] <LightningStrike> I giving him a false sense of hope of us switching to Oats lol [16:25] <@Snickers> oats is so confusing [16:25] <@Snickers> and then to top it off he makes his filter almost impossible to follow [16:25] <@Snickers> I know I do that sometimes but not as bad as oats [16:28] <LightningStrike> you suggesting Oats is Mafia? [16:28] <@Snickers> are you talking to me? [16:28] <LightningStrike> yes [16:29] <@Snickers> Here is where I stand [16:29] <@Snickers> if ve is not scum I think oats is [16:29] <@Snickers> but I am still looking into why ve thinks oats is scum [16:30] <@Snickers> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=80#1588 [16:30] <@Snickers> thats just for me to regerence [16:32] <@Snickers> ve and oats were both wrong there [16:32] <@Snickers> or wwait [16:32] <@Snickers> fuck I am so confued [16:33] <@Snickers> hmmm [16:35] <LightningStrike> lol [16:36] <@Snickers> I really do not like how ve thinks you can never lynch into green checks [16:38] <@Snickers> doesnt the whole arguement fall apart if oats truly thinks lc is scum or if he truly thinks sl is godfather [16:39] <sicklucker> Im pretty bizzy this mornin [16:39] <@Snickers> I can never think that oats is more scum than ve [16:39] <LightningStrike> If VE is town you guys lynch Oats? [16:39] <@Snickers> I have some small stuff thinking that oats is scum, and even if this thing ve is saying is correct, One solid thing doesnt surmount the multiple big reasons I have voting ve [16:40] <@Snickers> I am probably lynching oats tomorrow [16:40] <@Snickers> sicklucker is looking more townie for sure [16:40] <@Snickers> and since its down to two people one looking more townie matters quite a bit [16:40] <@Snickers> shh dont tell ve about my other account [16:41] <@Snickers> dont post that part in the thread either, here is where we have freedom haha [16:41] <sicklucker> Well if the final 3 comes down to you me oats. [16:41] <@Snickers> and def dont post this before [16:41] <sicklucker> Im giving you the hammer because im only ever voting oats [16:41] <@Snickers> the night kill happens [16:42] == VisceraEyes [webchat@108-215-37-235.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [16:42] <VisceraEyes> OHAI [16:42] <@Snickers> ve [16:42] <LightningStrike> Shit [16:42] <@Snickers> dont post this in the thread until after the night kill [16:42] <@Snickers> this is really channel oats may be scum [16:42] <VisceraEyes> I know he might [16:42] <VisceraEyes> I've been saying that [16:43] <LightningStrike> I had played with Oats as both alignments but when I was scum he was the town leader but when I was town he wasn't a town leader as town and was inactive as Mafia [16:43] <@Snickers> I am having trouble understanding the point ve [16:43] <sicklucker> like im gonna be gone in 10 minutes so ima vote oats [16:43] <sicklucker> and hope you guys agree [16:44] <@Snickers> anwser this ve, wouldnt oats assuming lc is the roleblocker make sense if he thinks sl is the godfather? Or what about if he really thinks lc is scum [16:45] <VisceraEyes> That would make sense, but he never stated as much in the thread or pushed that thought [16:45] <@Snickers> okay well I need to check when oats figured out that sl had a green check on him [16:45] <VisceraEyes> As town Oats like freaks out. Like the way he's doing to me right now - that's the only thing that makes me hesitant about Oats [16:45] <@Snickers> cause oats sometimes figures out stuff late. [16:45] <VisceraEyes> But he never did that about sicklucker or LS that would explain him assuming that LC is the rolecop [16:46] <VisceraEyes> Plus it's at least reasonable the reason he gave [16:46] <VisceraEyes> When he said that he was just assuming that LC wasn't the GF because if he WAS the GF it was game over anyway [16:46] <VisceraEyes> That's reasonable to assume as town [16:46] <VisceraEyes> And something I can maybe see Oats doing as town [16:47] <VisceraEyes> The other side of that is [16:48] <VisceraEyes> It's also reasonable to assume that he's GF and knew that LC wasn't the rolecop and made a mistake [16:48] <VisceraEyes> If you consider Snickers to be 100% town [16:48] <VisceraEyes> Which I do no [16:48] <VisceraEyes> t [16:48] <VisceraEyes> obviously [16:48] <@Snickers> but wouldnt godfather know lc is the rolecop? [16:48] <VisceraEyes> Yes [16:49] <VisceraEyes> I mean knew he wasn't the GF [16:49] <@Snickers> I dont get what this means "It's also reasonable to assume that he's GF and knew that LC wasn't the rolecop and made a mistake" [16:49] <VisceraEyes> If he was GF it would be over [16:49] <VisceraEyes> If Oats is GF he knows LC isn't GF [16:49] <VisceraEyes> I was hoping that LC was the GF [16:49] <sicklucker> we all were [16:49] <VisceraEyes> But as I stated in the thread, found it unlikely unless exactly Snickers is mafia [16:50] <@Snickers> so if me and oats are both scum? [16:50] <@Snickers> since this was before lc flip [16:50] <VisceraEyes> You can't both be [16:50] <VisceraEyes> Oh before [16:50] <VisceraEyes> Yeah you could have been [16:50] <VisceraEyes> LC could have been town at the time [16:50] <VisceraEyes> From my perspective [16:50] <VisceraEyes> That's why I raised the point about the lynch being easy [16:51] <VisceraEyes> From my perspective, LC could have been town and scum could have been both of Oats/Snickers, or even LS and FF (who weren't roles explicitly maybe) [16:51] <VisceraEyes> I don't know, I wasn't in on any of the role shenannies [16:51] <VisceraEyes> Not until it all came out D3 [16:51] <VisceraEyes> Or whenever [16:52] <@Snickers> ve if you get lynched, who should i vote tomorrow? [16:52] <VisceraEyes> I want you to tell me what you think [16:52] <VisceraEyes> Right now I'd say Oats [16:52] <@Snickers> I am prob lynching oats [16:52] <VisceraEyes> Based on how he's playing [16:52] <LightningStrike> Oats been extremely lazy as town in his last couple games [16:52] <VisceraEyes> But idk about sicklucker. How much have you guys been talking to him in PMs? [16:52] <VisceraEyes> Do you trust him? [16:53] <LightningStrike> I trust him enough that I wont lynch him unless I somehow get to Lylo [16:53] <@Snickers> sicklucker is town to me [16:53] <@Snickers> I dont like how he plays but he is consistent with his thoughts [16:54] <sicklucker> I like him too [16:54] <@Snickers> also sicklucker is still pushing oats haha [16:54] <VisceraEyes> Yeah [16:54] <sicklucker> BECAUSE HES THE MAFIA [16:54] <VisceraEyes> Which is really weird if he's GF, but then you could say the same about Oats pushing VE instead of Snickers [16:54] <sicklucker> like your fight looked like two towns [16:54] <sicklucker> while oats sat back and laughed and did nothing [16:54] <LightningStrike> okay guys shannie onto oats? [16:54] <VisceraEyes> I'll vote for Oats sure [16:55] <@Snickers> I cant do that in my position [16:55] <LightningStrike> Snickers we can [16:55] <sicklucker> im already on him obv ve would so its up to you guys [16:55] <@Snickers> not im my position [16:55] <LightningStrike> why [16:55] <VisceraEyes> what do you mean "in your position"? [16:55] <VisceraEyes> Do you think he's town? [16:55] <@Snickers> cause i think ve is most likely the godfather. If we lynch into oats and he flips town then I am prob getting lynched tomorrow [16:55] <VisceraEyes> Why are you concerned about "your position"? [16:56] <@Snickers> cause sicklucker said he is trusting me with the hammer [16:56] <VisceraEyes> omg no he didn't [16:56] <sicklucker> dont tell people dat [16:56] <VisceraEyes> Jesus Christ [16:56] <sicklucker> and that was only in a scenerio with one other player [16:56] <VisceraEyes> ME [16:56] <sicklucker> so if we kill oats thts not a thing [16:56] <VisceraEyes> FUck [16:56] <VisceraEyes> Fuck this [16:56] <VisceraEyes> Lynch whoever you want [16:56] <@Snickers> ve [16:56] <@Snickers> if you are town [16:56] <LightningStrike> I lynching Oats [16:56] <@Snickers> I am listening to you here [16:57] <@Snickers> ls if you lynch oats that means you are confirming ve as town [16:57] <@Snickers> right? [16:57] <sicklucker> Ve I said id give snickers the hammer over oats fyi [16:57] <VisceraEyes> Well I asked you if you trust sicklucker and you say yes. And you think Oats is town because you think I'm mafia. So what do you mean you're listening to me? [16:57] <VisceraEyes> I'm fucking town [16:57] <LightningStrike> yes snickers [16:57] <VisceraEyes> I don't care what Oats flips [16:57] <VisceraEyes> You have to know, if you're "listening to me" that I'm town from my perspective [16:58] <@Snickers> guys look at this [16:58] <VisceraEyes> So if it's not Oats then it's sicklucker TO ME [16:58] <@Snickers> either way oats is getting lynched [16:58] <LightningStrike> VE tunneling can happen to both alignments lol [16:58] <VisceraEyes> That's why I asked if you trust sicklucker [16:58] <VisceraEyes> And you BOTH said [16:58] <@Snickers> but not in either way ve is getting lynched [16:58] <VisceraEyes> Without hesitation [16:58] <VisceraEyes> Oh yeah [16:58] <VisceraEyes> sicklucker is town to me [16:58] <VisceraEyes> So what the fuck ever [16:58] <VisceraEyes> Vote whoever you want [16:58] <VisceraEyes> I'll lynch Oats [16:58] <VisceraEyes> And then I'll lynch sicklucker [16:58] <@Snickers> I trust sicklucker but sicklucker trusts you over me ve. I feel like ls is dying tonight [16:58] <VisceraEyes> If you guys don't think it's snickers [16:58] <VisceraEyes> I think it's fucking snickers [16:58] <VisceraEyes> So whateve3r [16:59] <@Snickers> wait everyone hold up a second [16:59] <VisceraEyes> LS was just swayed onto a townie [16:59] <VisceraEyes> LS will be left alive to make the decision tomorrow [16:59] <@Snickers> no [16:59] <@Snickers> guys listen [16:59] <VisceraEyes> If both me and Snickers are town then LS is staying alive [17:01] <@Snickers> I am confused [17:01] <VisceraEyes> I'm listening [17:01] <VisceraEyes> You said listen [17:02] <VisceraEyes> Now I'm waiting for you to explain what you're confused about [17:02] <@Snickers> well it involes lynching you [17:02] <VisceraEyes> IRC is much worse than PMs where interacting with people is concerned [17:02] <@Snickers> but here it goes [17:02] <VisceraEyes> Patience is a factor [17:02] <@Snickers> ls thinks you are more scummy than me [17:02] <VisceraEyes> Clearly [17:03] <@Snickers> hes needs to lynch you today and not oats if he thinks that cause I am prty sure I am getting lynched in lylo [17:03] <@Snickers> I am lynching oats tomorrow [17:03] <@Snickers> yes there is a lot of assumptions but that is how it is [17:03] <VisceraEyes> Well you stating all these assumptions now is scummy as hell because it assumes that you know that whoever you lynch today is town [17:04] <VisceraEyes> Which can't be true unless you're mafia [17:04] <VisceraEyes> So whatever. [17:04] <@Snickers> no [17:04] <VisceraEyes> Enjoy your little club [17:04] <@Snickers> i am saying I think you are more scum than oats [17:04] <VisceraEyes> I'm going to go place my vote on Oats if no one will lynch Snickers [17:04] <VisceraEyes> Have a nice day. [17:04] <@Snickers> well I am going to kick you from the chat is that fine? [17:04] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [17:07] <sicklucker> well im in a doto tourney [17:07] <sicklucker> talk later:D [17:07] <VisceraEyes> KK [17:07] <VisceraEyes> Snickers explain to me why you think sicklucker is town [17:07] <VisceraEyes> Before you go [17:07] <VisceraEyes> Real quick [17:07] <VisceraEyes> I'll do the same [17:07] <VisceraEyes> Because both of us are assuming he's town [17:07] <VisceraEyes> And if we're both town that's bad to do [17:08] <@Snickers> hes way more townie than you and oats shit doesnt add up and oats switched to you while sl still pushes him [17:08] <VisceraEyes> What do you mean he's way more townie than me and oats? [17:08] <VisceraEyes> I've been in the thread [17:08] <VisceraEyes> Consistently [17:08] <VisceraEyes> CONSISTENTLY [17:09] <@Snickers> yea but I see an agenda behind it [17:09] <VisceraEyes> I've been putting my thoughts into the thread [17:09] <VisceraEyes> You've been forcing me to defend myself [17:09] <VisceraEyes> Consistently [17:09] <VisceraEyes> Because you're CONSISTENTLY saying everything I say is scummy [17:09] <VisceraEyes> That's not the case [17:09] <VisceraEyes> Not everything I say is scummy [17:09] <VisceraEyes> There's no way [17:09] <VisceraEyes> Because I'm town [17:09] <VisceraEyes> So there's no way every single thing I say is scummy [17:09] <VisceraEyes> But you respond to every single thing I say [17:09] <VisceraEyes> As if it sht escummiest thing I've said all game [17:09] <VisceraEyes> That [17:09] <VisceraEyes> My friend [17:10] <VisceraEyes> is called [17:10] <VisceraEyes> confirmation bias [17:10] <VisceraEyes> And it's fine [17:10] <VisceraEyes> It doesn't mean you're stupid [17:10] <VisceraEyes> IT doesn't mean you're a bad person [17:10] <VisceraEyes> It just means you think you're right [17:10] <VisceraEyes> And nothing will change it [17:10] <VisceraEyes> And everything just starts to seem to support it [17:10] <@Snickers> no ve [17:11] <@Snickers> but when you use rayn to say I am scum [17:11] <VisceraEyes> Stop right ther [17:11] <VisceraEyes> I'm not "using" rayn [17:11] <VisceraEyes> I'm pointing out [17:11] <VisceraEyes> that rayn died suspicious of you [17:11] <VisceraEyes> that's a fact [17:11] <VisceraEyes> I'm not "using" anything [17:11] <VisceraEyes> It's me pointing out something I observed [17:11] <VisceraEyes> Like I may be wrong [17:11] == nooblet [webchat@174-17-54-225.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [17:12] <@Snickers> lol [17:12] <@Snickers> no I am refering to [17:12] <@Snickers> you said rayn thought I was scummy [17:13] <@Snickers> and you said that was a reason for you to read me as scum [17:13] <VisceraEyes> No, I said that's a reason town should do it [17:13] <VisceraEyes> lmao [17:13] <VisceraEyes> Those are different things [17:13] <VisceraEyes> town can trust rayn because he's confirmed town. I have my own reasons for wanting to lynch you. [17:14] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #snickersthecandybar [17:14] <LightningStrike> Okay see my last pm [17:15] <@Snickers> listen ve do you trust rayns reads cause he is a confirmed town [17:15] <VisceraEyes> I trust rayn's reads because I know rayn is good at the game [17:15] <LightningStrike> Koshi and Rayn are confirmed town [17:15] <@Snickers> so if he was mafia you would still trust them?> [17:15] <VisceraEyes> No [17:15] <@Snickers> that makes no sense ve [17:15] <VisceraEyes> No listen [17:15] <VisceraEyes> Stop [17:15] <VisceraEyes> You asked me a loaded question [17:16] <VisceraEyes> I trust rayns reads because I know rayn is good at the game. Now he's confirmed town so that makes them confirmed good [17:16] <@Snickers> okay [17:16] <VisceraEyes> Koshi being confirmed town doesn't mean as much to me as rayn being town. [17:16] <VisceraEyes> Koshi si good at the game too [17:16] <VisceraEyes> But I KNOW rayn is good [17:16] <@Snickers> but koshi was in the game longer [17:16] <VisceraEyes> Koshi is just like meh to me [17:16] <@Snickers> for get about that for now [17:16] <@Snickers> rayn thought I was scum, sl was scum and oats was town right? [17:17] <VisceraEyes> Right, I think. [17:17] <VisceraEyes> And I think Koshi wanted to lynch SL to [17:17] <VisceraEyes> too [17:17] <VisceraEyes> That's why I asked if you guys trust SL [17:17] <LightningStrike> I remember rayn reading sicklucker like a book [17:17] <LightningStrike> in one game he magically called him town [17:17] <LightningStrike> the other mafia [17:17] <VisceraEyes> Well he reconsidered at the end [17:18] <VisceraEyes> And thought SL was town [17:18] <VisceraEyes> based on a point he raised about Snickers being mafia [17:18] <LightningStrike> I was talking about in past games [17:18] <@Snickers> but one of the reasons you thought I was scummy was because rayn thought so. But you dont consider that rayn thought oats was town when you scum read oata or that rayn thought sl was scum when you town read sl [17:18] <VisceraEyes> Good points in my opinion [17:19] <VisceraEyes> And I don't townread sl necessarily. He just raised good points about you not being on the mafia lynch and why. You explained them, but I didn't really like your explanation. [17:19] <@Snickers> idk ve I cant see you as town this game [17:20] <@Snickers> you are way on one side and oats and sl are on the other side [17:20] <VisceraEyes> SL is kinda town by PoE because I think you're mafia. But I can easily see him as being the lurker mafia that lets town destroy itself [17:20] <@Snickers> but oats hasnt done much today so [17:20] <VisceraEyes> Well that's your failing. Everyone has been able to at least consider it this game except for you. [17:20] <VisceraEyes> And they're right. [17:21] <VisceraEyes> And you're wrong. [17:21] <VisceraEyes> Like I know I'VE FAILED to convince YOU [17:21] <VisceraEyes> But EVERYONE ELSE [17:21] <VisceraEyes> has at least considered me town sometime in the game [17:21] <VisceraEyes> Correctly [17:21] <VisceraEyes> You have not [17:21] <VisceraEyes> Ever [17:21] <VisceraEyes> And I AM town. [17:21] <VisceraEyes> So it's YOUR failing. [17:21] <VisceraEyes> Not mine. [17:22] <@Snickers> ve I have null reads on people [17:22] <@Snickers> I was voting you day one to fuck around [17:22] <@Snickers> not cause I thought you were scum [17:22] <VisceraEyes> You gave reasons. [17:22] <VisceraEyes> Bad reasons [17:22] <VisceraEyes> I don't care what you say now [17:22] <@Snickers> yea I was fucking around [17:22] <VisceraEyes> You say they were null reads [17:22] <VisceraEyes> You gave reasons [17:22] <@Snickers> i didnt think you were scum until right before koshi died [17:22] <VisceraEyes> So I don't believe you [17:23] <@Snickers> I am in here listening to you incase you flip town [17:23] <VisceraEyes> You can't say "I was fucking around" now because that's BS. You gave reasons and defended those reasons [17:23] <@Snickers> No I always fuck around lopl [17:23] <@Snickers> show me where if you can in [17:23] <VisceraEyes> Well you're not listening to me now [17:23] <@Snickers> the time allowerd [17:23] <@Snickers> I am listening [17:23] <VisceraEyes> You're in here defending why you think I'm mafia [17:23] <VisceraEyes> And your'e fucking wrong [17:23] <VisceraEyes> So stop wasting my fucking time [17:23] <@Snickers> Ve i am listening lol [17:24] <@Snickers> I considered the oats arguement [17:25] <@Snickers> If I get lynched you vote oats [17:25] <@Snickers> i am talking to you ve [17:26] <VisceraEyes> Okay? [17:26] <VisceraEyes> ME and OATS ....... [17:26] <VisceraEyes> If you get lynched [17:26] <VisceraEyes> Me and Oats [17:26] <VisceraEyes> ... [17:26] <VisceraEyes> OH me VOTE Oats [17:26] <VisceraEyes> Why? [17:26] <VisceraEyes> Why is sicklucker town to you [17:26] <VisceraEyes> That was what I asked you originally that you have failed to do [17:27] <@Snickers> sicklucker is so town lol [17:27] <VisceraEyes> I want to know why [17:27] <@Snickers> name something he has done is scummy [17:27] <VisceraEyes> PM stuff? [17:27] <VisceraEyes> sitting back passively complaining about the VE/Snickers stuff instead of looking through it and making conclusions about it [17:27] <VisceraEyes> He says he thinks its town on town [17:28] <@Snickers> why is oats votin you [17:28] <VisceraEyes> But has he REALLY been pushing Oats? [17:28] <@Snickers> I dont understand it [17:28] <VisceraEyes> Because he thinks "I'm better than this" or something [17:28] <VisceraEyes> And I don't even know what he means [17:28] <VisceraEyes> He doesn't even think I'm good lol [17:28] <VisceraEyes> That's what I'm saying [17:28] <VisceraEyes> Oats could be mafia [17:28] <VisceraEyes> And I'm down to lynch Oats [17:28] <VisceraEyes> But you have to tell me why you think sicklucker is town [17:28] <VisceraEyes> Because to me [17:29] <VisceraEyes> It looks like you just don't have a reason and are trying to pocket him [17:29] <VisceraEyes> Like I could say "Oh yeah I think sicklucker is SUPER town dude dope" [17:29] <VisceraEyes> But I'm trying to win the game [17:29] <VisceraEyes> as town [17:29] <@Snickers> No way I am pocketing sl lol [17:29] <VisceraEyes> I'm not ruling anyone out [17:29] <VisceraEyes> Well you don't have a reason to townread him [17:29] <@Snickers> It takes me 5 hours to convince sicklucker of one thing [17:29] <@Snickers> listen ve [17:29] <@Snickers> if you really ar etown [17:29] <@Snickers> lycnh oats not sl [17:30] <@Snickers> trust me on that [17:30] <VisceraEyes> Stop with the ultimatums [17:30] <VisceraEyes> I'm going to lynch who I think is mafia [17:30] <@Snickers> well [17:30] <@Snickers> if you care about my thoughts [17:30] <VisceraEyes> I DO [17:30] <@Snickers> I am saying oats always [17:30] <VisceraEyes> THATS WHY IM HERE [17:30] <VisceraEyes> IM ASKING YOU WHY [17:30] <VisceraEyes> YOU WONT TELL ME [17:30] <@Snickers> ok [17:30] <@Snickers> i will make a liste [17:30] <@Snickers> oats is scum because [17:30] <VisceraEyes> I know why you want to lynch Oats [17:30] <@Snickers> wjy? [17:30] <VisceraEyes> I want to know why you don't want to lynch sicklucker [17:30] <@Snickers> why [17:30] <@Snickers> ask ls [17:31] <@Snickers> I already said I dont want oats lynched today [17:31] <VisceraEyes> that doesn't matter [17:31] <VisceraEyes> omg [17:31] <VisceraEyes> OMG [17:31] <VisceraEyes> Dude [17:31] <VisceraEyes> This is so pointless [17:31] <VisceraEyes> If you're town [17:31] <VisceraEyes> You've already made up your mind [17:31] <VisceraEyes> You think I'm maf [17:31] <VisceraEyes> You're wrong [17:31] <@Snickers> lt [17:31] <@Snickers> me me make the list [17:31] <VisceraEyes> And you might be wrong about Oats [17:31] <@Snickers> just incase [17:31] <VisceraEyes> You aren't considering anything else [17:31] <@Snickers> oats is scum because [17:31] <@Snickers> I am [17:31] <VisceraEyes> You're just trying to convince me to do what YOU want [17:31] <VisceraEyes> And that's fine [17:31] <VisceraEyes> But say [17:32] <VisceraEyes> THAT [17:32] <VisceraEyes> Don't say that I'm lazy [17:32] <@Snickers> The have been thinking about lylo even tho I am getting lynched probably [17:32] <VisceraEyes> Or stupid [17:32] <VisceraEyes> Or not listening to you [17:32] <VisceraEyes> I've asked you [17:32] <@Snickers> okay [17:32] <VisceraEyes> You won't tell me [17:32] <@Snickers> can I say why [17:32] <@Snickers> now? [17:32] <VisceraEyes> Do [17:32] <VisceraEyes> Plz [17:32] <@Snickers> okay [17:32] <@Snickers> oats scum [17:32] <@Snickers> he askes a lot of small questions and at first it looks like he is pushing the thread but really he is not [17:33] <@Snickers> he doesnt follow up on them or they dont lead to a case [17:33] <@Snickers> oats [17:33] <@Snickers> has also been late to realize a lot of shit [17:33] <@Snickers> he seems to not be reading the thread [17:33] <@Snickers> oats vote on you looks prty bad [17:33] <LightningStrike> the last he did that he was Mafia [17:33] <@Snickers> I dont understand it [17:33] <LightningStrike> in Carol of the Bells [17:33] <@Snickers> yea but the problem is [17:33] <@Snickers> koshi said he was lazy [17:34] <VisceraEyes> He is, and he does that shit as town too [17:34] <VisceraEyes> that's the thing [17:34] <LightningStrike> he's more lazy as mafia than town in my experience [17:34] <VisceraEyes> that's not a good read - Oats is lazy both alignments and doesn't post cases both alignments and asks pointless questions that go nowhere both alignments [17:34] <VisceraEyes> You have to read oats on his thoughts and if they make sense [17:35] <VisceraEyes> And most of what oats has said has made sense mostly...except for this push on me. [17:35] <@Snickers> I am so confused about him tho [17:35] <@Snickers> like another reason he is scum [17:35] <@Snickers> hes not here right now [17:35] <@Snickers> not in the thread [17:35] <@Snickers> not in this irc [17:35] <@Snickers> is he pming anyone? [17:35] <VisceraEyes> But I can even see Oats pushing like this on me as town [17:35] <VisceraEyes> He doesn't like me much [17:36] <@Snickers> so ve you think ls is dying tonight [17:36] <@Snickers> ? [17:36] <VisceraEyes> It's hard to say [17:36] <VisceraEyes> I want to say yes [17:36] <VisceraEyes> It's statistically better [17:36] <VisceraEyes> But he's lurking [17:36] <VisceraEyes> No one really knows his thoughts in full [17:36] <VisceraEyes> He seems to avoid the thread at important times [17:36] <@Snickers> ok [17:36] <@Snickers> so sicklucker scum [17:37] <LightningStrike> I told Koshi and Rayn I was Cop when they asked for the Cop to claim [17:37] <@Snickers> he seems to be lazy [17:37] <VisceraEyes> And can now add "is swayed onto townies at waning hours" onto his resume [17:37] <VisceraEyes> So it's hard to say [17:37] <VisceraEyes> lmao [17:37] <@Snickers> but whenever I pressued him his shit added up [17:37] <VisceraEyes> Snickers just lynch Oats today [17:37] <@Snickers> no I cant [17:37] <LightningStrike> Snickers [17:37] <VisceraEyes> Why? [17:37] <sicklucker> hum [17:37] <LightningStrike> yes you can [17:37] <@Snickers> nope [17:37] <@Snickers> I cant [17:38] <LightningStrike> dude [17:38] <@Snickers> ls you should know why [17:38] <@Snickers> I am pming [17:38] <@Snickers> you [17:38] <@Snickers> stop playing with me [17:38] <sicklucker> I got a few [17:38] <sicklucker> whats up [17:38] <VisceraEyes> sicklucker how much are you PMing with people that aren't me? [17:38] <sicklucker> alot more [17:39] <VisceraEyes> Okay, well thank you [17:39] <VisceraEyes> I asked them and they were hesitant to tell me [17:39] <sicklucker> I pmed lots of people just not yo and oats very much [17:40] <@Snickers> I am exhausted [17:41] <VisceraEyes> Okay well I have to go make dinner [17:41] <@Snickers> ok see ya [17:41] == VisceraEyes [webchat@108-215-37-235.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has left #snickersthecandybar [] [17:41] == nooblet was kicked from #snickersthecandybar by Snickers [wibble] [17:41] <@Snickers> ls [17:42] <@Snickers> you still here [17:43] <LightningStrike> ya [17:43] <@Snickers> ok [17:43] <@Snickers> so I kinda fucked uop [17:43] <@Snickers> you actually cant vote me haa [17:43] <@Snickers> it would go nowhere [17:43] <@Snickers> unless you and sicklucker [17:43] <@Snickers> both voted me [17:43] <@Snickers> and i got off of ve [17:43] <@Snickers> so ls [17:43] <@Snickers> right now [17:43] <@Snickers> you need to decide [17:43] <@Snickers> sicklucker you still here? [17:43] <LightningStrike> Oats I guess [17:43] <@Snickers> You cant vote me [17:43] <@Snickers> you cant vote oats [17:43] <@Snickers> its either me or ve [17:44] <@Snickers> i am getting lynched tomorrow if you vote oats [17:44] <LightningStrike> you never know [17:44] <@Snickers> ls I do know come on man [17:44] <@Snickers> either me or ve [17:44] <@Snickers> its cant be oats [17:45] <@Snickers> oats is going to get lynched tomorrow if ve flips town [17:45] <@Snickers> ls if I was the godfather why would I care this much [17:45] <@Snickers> you are going to die in the night [17:45] <@Snickers> come on you and ff fucked me over [17:45] <@Snickers> I need you and sl to vote me in [17:45] <@Snickers> or you need to vote ve [17:45] <LightningStrike> sicklucker your call [17:46] <LightningStrike> where you go I will decided [17:46] <LightningStrike> decide [17:46] <@Snickers> ls that is kinda fucking me over [17:46] <@Snickers> ls do you still think [17:46] <@Snickers> ve is more scummy than me [17:46] <LightningStrike> a little bit [17:46] <@Snickers> okay [17:46] <@Snickers> these are the end scenarios [17:46] <sicklucker> I think oats is scum [17:46] <@Snickers> me and oats lynched [17:46] <@Snickers> or ve and oats lynched [17:46] <@Snickers> right now [17:46] <@Snickers> you are choosing [17:46] <@Snickers> me and oats lynched [17:47] <@Snickers> it doesnt matter what order they happen [17:47] <sicklucker> rly [17:47] <@Snickers> whats import is either me or ve get lynched today [17:47] <sicklucker> I dont agree [17:47] <sicklucker> You guys are lynching each other [17:47] <sicklucker> for sure? [17:47] <@Snickers> who ? [17:47] <@Snickers> me and ve [17:47] <sicklucker> you and ve [17:47] <@Snickers> ve is going on oats [17:47] <LightningStrike> sicklucker you can lead and in my will I will say lynch Oats [17:47] <@Snickers> even tho I am his top scum read [17:48] <sicklucker> I think we just lynch the mafia [17:48] <@Snickers> I am lynching oats tomorrow for sure [17:48] <@Snickers> sicklucker its not that simple [17:48] <@Snickers> you need to vote me or ve [17:49] <sicklucker> Like no were voting oats [17:49] <@Snickers> no [17:49] <@Snickers> sicklucker [17:49] <sicklucker> im sure hes scum if I had to choose you [17:49] <@Snickers> if you vote oats today [17:49] <@Snickers> that means you are lynching me tomorrow [17:49] <@Snickers> seriously guys [17:49] <@Snickers> me or ve [17:49] <@Snickers> dont screw me [17:50] <LightningStrike> I just swap to VE [17:50] <LightningStrike> switch over guys [17:50] <@Snickers> me or ve [17:50] <@Snickers> remember [17:50] <@Snickers> dont fuck around [17:50] <LightningStrike> I aint fucking around [17:50] <@Snickers> dont vote oats [17:50] <sicklucker> no if we lyynch ve im not lynching you tormorow [17:50] <sicklucker> but i dont think its a good idea [17:50] <@Snickers> siclucker [17:51] <@Snickers> your top scum read is going t oget lynched tho [17:51] <@Snickers> thats why I am saying its either me or ve [17:51] <sicklucker> Wel llike its going to be ve [17:51] <sicklucker> you dont need my vote [17:51] <@Snickers> okay [17:51] <sicklucker> you have 3 votes [17:51] <@Snickers> well we decided that [17:51] <@Snickers> 9 mins befroe the flip [17:51] <@Snickers> and I have been here for hours talking to people [17:52] <@Snickers> sicklucker [17:52] <@Snickers> do you understand? [17:52] <sicklucker> yes well [17:52] <sicklucker> dont forget to vote ve [17:52] <sicklucker> you have 7 minutes [17:53] <sicklucker> sorry im sort of occupied now id prefer oats but its whatever maybe your right [17:54] <@Snickers> I am right if ls thinks I am more town than ve. If ls thinks he is dying in the night. And if he thinks you and ve would vote me tomorrow [17:54] <@Snickers> and if he thinks oats is scum [17:54] <@Snickers> dying in the night may not matter [17:54] <@Snickers> sicklucker try to stay here incase [17:54] <@Snickers> ls decides to vote me [17:54] <@Snickers> I understand tho [17:55] <@Snickers> and remember [17:55] <@Snickers> we are all deciding to vote oats tomorrow? [17:55] <@Snickers> Idk who will die in the night if ve is vt [17:57] <sicklucker> Ls has decided its ve [17:57] <sicklucker> i gtg now we ok? 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[17:13] == Snickers_ [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #wtf [17:14] <Sicklucker> le sign wth [17:14] <Sicklucker> start by telling me why you think im mafia or oats is town [17:14] <Snickers_> hello godfather [17:14] <Snickers_> why did you vote kurumi day two [17:15] <Sicklucker> He didnt do anything I followed my town reads and it was a landslide vote if I remember so my vote didnt really matter [17:16] <Snickers_> you were saying kurumi was town tho, [17:16] <Sicklucker> Day 1 [17:16] <Sicklucker> things change [17:16] <Snickers_> and day two [17:16] <Snickers_> you were saying it [17:16] <Sicklucker> He was the day 3 lynch right? [17:17] <Snickers_> noi day two [17:17] <Snickers_> eden kurmi lc ve [17:17] <Sicklucker> Like why are you doing this an hour before. If I knew you had a close decision I would have shit to say [17:18] <Snickers_> hmm [17:18] <Snickers_> why is oats mafia? [17:18] <Sicklucker> Because hes lurking he wont interact with me [17:18] <Sicklucker> he dodged me yesterday [17:18] <Sicklucker> He also like always knows the flips [17:19] <Sicklucker> his votes barely end up on towns [17:19] <Sicklucker> hes not that good of a town player hes trying to keep his hands clean [17:20] <Snickers_> his day one vote ended up on you [17:20] <Snickers_> day two was lc [17:20] <Sicklucker> What page wasthe kurimi lynch thing ill reread and remember my thoughts [17:20] <Snickers_> day three he didnt vote [17:20] <Snickers_> day four he ended on ve [17:20] <Sicklucker> Im talking how he never votes you [17:20] <Sicklucker> hes been setting this final 3 up [17:21] <Sicklucker> he scum reads me all game. never acualy pushes me [17:21] <Sicklucker> town reads you all game [17:21] <Snickers_> hmm [17:21] <Sicklucker> now were the final 3? how convienient [17:21] <Snickers_> idk rayn died after pushing you [17:21] <Sicklucker> Rayns a good player and would of died regardless he also pushed eden and lc [17:22] <Snickers_> also you were reading me as town day one and ve as scum then you flipped it day two [17:22] <Snickers_> feels like you were setting up a lynch [17:22] <Sicklucker> You remember why I flipped it? [17:22] <Sicklucker> because I do [17:22] <Snickers_> yea [17:22] <Snickers_> why? [17:23] <Sicklucker> you called me out for taking my vote on ve [17:23] <Sicklucker> you voted the person you called the medic instead of scum eden? [17:23] <Sicklucker> it was really weird [17:23] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wtf [17:23] <Snickers_> why did [17:23] <Snickers_> ve become town [17:23] <Sicklucker> im kind of having second thoughts tbh maybe you are the mafia but nothing I can do [17:23] <Snickers_> when he was scum at first [17:24] <LightningStrike> o.o [17:24] <Sicklucker> ve never became town til llike day 3 for me? [17:24] <Snickers_> why [17:24] <Sicklucker> it was because we talked on voice chat for staters [17:24] <Snickers_> ok keep going [17:24] <Sicklucker> then as the game went on we had alot of the same thoughts [17:24] <LightningStrike> I talked with VE but I shouldn't of yoloed him [17:24] <Snickers_> what were some of the same thoughts [17:25] <Sicklucker> like ve also saved me from getting lynched thats probably something not in the forum [17:25] <Sicklucker> Like some of them were disproven but we had the same thoughts thats a good sign like things on you [17:25] <Sicklucker> and oats having too muc hinfo [17:25] <Sicklucker> deadlines in 30 mins right? [17:25] <Snickers_> yea [17:26] <Snickers_> it sits weird with me tho [17:26] <Sicklucker> hils [17:26] <Snickers_> that you were saying kurumi was town [17:26] <LightningStrike> So who we lynching? [17:26] <Snickers_> but then you vote kurumi without saying anything and then after the fact [17:26] <Sicklucker> Well that happened 3 weeks ago but [17:26] <Snickers_> idk [17:26] <Snickers_> ls [17:26] <Sicklucker> I gave him a weak early town read for making those threads [17:26] <Snickers_> who do you think it is [17:27] <Sicklucker> but I later found out he would do it as either alignment [17:27] <Sicklucker> oh yes thats th ereason I turned on him [17:27] <LightningStrike> By PoE I got Snickers and Oats [17:27] <Sicklucker> Ls what do you think? [17:27] <Snickers_> so here is where I stand [17:27] <Snickers_> I have oats [17:27] <Sicklucker> Well we cant vote snickers because oats is gone [17:27] <Sicklucker> so its between me and oats ls [17:27] <Snickers_> seems to be trying to figure out the game through [17:28] <Sicklucker> because snickers wont vote himself obv;p [17:28] <Snickers_> yea if I am mafia I already won this game haha [17:28] <Sicklucker> agreed [17:28] <Sicklucker> no point talking about it [17:28] <Snickers_> ls here is where I am [17:28] <Snickers_> I have oats [17:28] <Snickers_> the lazy player who seems to have good questions [17:28] <Snickers_> super lazy tho [17:28] <Snickers_> then I have sicklucker [17:28] <Snickers_> a lot of shit seems to fall in place for him [17:29] <Snickers_> rayn thought he was scum then rayn dies [17:29] <Snickers_> he voted kurumi without saying anything [17:29] <LightningStrike> tbh rayn can read sicklucker like a book [17:29] <Snickers_> both rayn and koshi [17:29] <Snickers_> said sicklucker [17:29] <Snickers_> scum [17:29] <Snickers_> oats town [17:30] <Sicklucker> Is this happening again [17:30] <Sicklucker> im gonna lose another final 3 for town [17:30] <LightningStrike> check slythterin, Campus for past games with Rayn and Sicklucker together [17:30] <Sicklucker> because no one cares that scum is obv keeping me around [17:30] <LightningStrike> Rayn called Sicklucker town in Campus Mafia [17:30] <Sicklucker> ls in my first game as mafia ms paint [17:30] <Sicklucker> I pocketed rayn [17:30] <Sicklucker> hes not always right [17:30] <Sicklucker> look it up [17:31] <Snickers_> was he town in campus mafia? [17:31] <LightningStrike> he can read you better than anyone else that is dead [17:31] <Sicklucker> koshi is always wrong about me [17:31] <LightningStrike> yes Snickers [17:31] <Sicklucker> koshi also thought I was town in my last mafia win [17:31] <Sicklucker> i beat them both as mafia before so there paranoid [17:31] <LightningStrike> Both Rayn and Sicklucker were town in Campus [17:31] <LightningStrike> keep in mind Rayn replaced someone in that game and so did sicklucker [17:31] <Sicklucker> yes but that was a easy read [17:31] <LightningStrike> although rayn replaced much later [17:32] <Sicklucker> and he only called me town based on my 40 page filter [17:32] <Snickers_> ls [17:32] <Snickers_> what do you get out of the votes day one [17:32] <Snickers_> mafia got lynched with four votes [17:32] <Snickers_> sicklucker had two votes on him [17:32] <Snickers_> I had two votes on me [17:32] <Sicklucker> Snickers are you slow rolling me here? [17:32] <LightningStrike> let me check [17:32] <Snickers_> ls [17:32] <Sicklucker> like if your mafia you dont have to talk [17:32] <Sicklucker> you already won [17:32] <Snickers_> I can post in the thread [17:32] <Snickers_> the final results [17:32] <Snickers_> but the names arnt in chronological order [17:33] <Sicklucker> I dont get how you gave me the hammer and are flipping. I sapose that makes you confirmed town tho [17:33] <Sicklucker> because no reason to slowrole me here [17:34] <LightningStrike> so your only scum is Oats [17:34] <LightningStrike> but yet me and the rest reading Oats town [17:34] <Sicklucker> yes now that I think of it [17:34] <Sicklucker> snickers is neve rmafia unless hes a huge d bag [17:34] <Snickers_> haha [17:34] <LightningStrike> I hammering you sicklucker I'm sorry if you are town [17:34] <Sicklucker> your not hammering me [17:34] <Sicklucker> your vote doesint matter [17:34] <Snickers_> haha [17:35] <Sicklucker> are you surious [17:35] <Snickers_> that is true [17:35] <Sicklucker> well his vote does matter [17:35] <Sicklucker> Ls let snickers have th ehammer [17:35] <Sicklucker> dont vote let him decide [17:35] <Sicklucker> your just gonna sheep the confirmed town anyway [17:35] <Sicklucker> lets be real [17:36] <Sicklucker> and snickers is confirmed no [17:36] <LightningStrike> honestly my poe did change because I forgot I did metaread Snickers town [17:36] <Sicklucker> Ls what changed since yesterday omg? [17:36] <Sicklucker> you guys are insane oats is still mafia [17:36] <LightningStrike> I been townreading Oats this entire game [17:36] <Sicklucker> literraly nothings changed he didnt even try today he knows he loss [17:36] <Sicklucker> you guys are throwing for no reason [17:36] <LightningStrike> and he was like this in NYE Party [17:37] <LightningStrike> and got lynched for it [17:37] <Sicklucker> YOU VOTED HIM YESTERDAY? [17:37] <Sicklucker> WTF [17:37] <LightningStrike> and same in Void [17:37] <LightningStrike> I didn't vote Oats? [17:37] <Sicklucker> yes you did [17:37] <Sicklucker> LightningStrike United States. March 01 2015 21:55. Posts 4696 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Unvote Vote: Oatsmaster [17:37] <Snickers_> So i thoguht sl was kinda sitting back yesterday [17:37] <Sicklucker> ..... [17:37] <Snickers_> he meant where his vote ended up [17:37] <Sicklucker> Because you said you were killing my scum read no matter what [17:37] <Sicklucker> no shit I sat back snickers [17:38] <Sicklucker> im also in two other games [17:38] <Sicklucker> I noticed your in one too [17:38] <Snickers_> yea haha [17:38] <Sicklucker> and you didnt aproach me either [17:38] <LightningStrike> I'm coaching in 1 game and playing in another also [17:38] <Sicklucker> UNTILL 30 MINS BEFORE VOTE [17:38] <LightningStrike> remember I am the Cop [17:38] <Sicklucker> is your student still alive in that game? [17:38] <Snickers_> it was actually three hours [17:39] <LightningStrike> I wont say anything on their status [17:39] <Snickers_> haha [17:39] <Snickers_> I feel like shit if sl it town [17:39] <Sicklucker> you fuckig should [17:40] <Sicklucker> Im gonna berate you so hard if you don tcome to your senses [17:40] <Snickers_> sicklucker rank three people that you pushed in this game [17:41] <Sicklucker> Like sign ls remember when I went on voice chat [17:41] <Sicklucker> ve,you,eden [17:41] <Sicklucker> oats obv [17:41] <Sicklucker> Rank? [17:41] <Snickers_> yea [17:41] <Snickers_> like mine would be [17:42] <Snickers_> 1.ve 2. geript etc [17:42] <Sicklucker> Well #1 oats because hes the last mafia and im winning us the game. #2eden because he was mafia WHO BY THE WAY WANTED TO KILL ME [17:42] <Sicklucker> like acualy lets go back to day one heres why im town [17:42] <Sicklucker> Like I was edens kill target all day look it up [17:43] <Sicklucker> like let me get some quotes I think this is the best way I can save the game [17:43] <Snickers_> no just say why [17:43] <Sicklucker> Ray also had some good posts. His big post recently about SL was pretty baller. I haven't got the scattershot townie vibes I normally get from SL. Where you at? [17:44] <Sicklucker> like here hes pinging me out 4 hours into the game who does that to there mafia partner? you know who he doesint mention in his filter? oats [17:44] <Snickers_> yea and eden were talking back and forth very early [17:44] <Sicklucker> Go look at edens filter and tell me you think hes my partner with a straight face [17:45] <Sicklucker> thats how we save th egame in 15 minutes [17:45] <Sicklucker> is vote in 15 minutes? [17:45] <Snickers_> yea [17:46] <Sicklucker> That reminds me, where is sicklucker? He's not really doing much of anything this game, which would be surprising if he's town. [17:46] <Snickers_> eden pinged oats rly early [17:46] <Sicklucker> vote snickerdoodle [17:46] <Sicklucker> ya i just saw that too [17:46] <Sicklucker> but he neve rfollows up [17:47] <Sicklucker> Eagerly awaiting Oats's explanation for why four people saw the QT though (if that's what happened). [17:47] <Sicklucker> thats barely a ping tbh [17:47] <Sicklucker> LS what are your thoughts on Snickers and sicklucker right now? (And I guess geript and Kurumi if you have something to say about them) like look who hes going after [17:48] <Sicklucker> the two towns that mafia decided are weak enough players to trick in final 3 [17:48] <Sicklucker> l is pretty clearly doing yesterday's disruption work to keep the town circle from solidifying b/c once it's entrenched it's too hard to stop [17:48] <Sicklucker> why don't you want to lynch sicklucker? if he's paying attention but clearly not active in the thread or side chats then he's probably mafia. sicklucker is much more active than this as town [17:49] <Sicklucker> i still think you should lynch sicklucker. i'm not sure what it is about his list post that changed your mind, because to me it proved he's been following things but not that he's trying to solve the game (as evidenced by his lack of meaningful posts in the thread or oot communication), which i'd expect from mafia sicklucker. town sicklucker is all over the thread, digging into all kinds of leads, trying to turn up whatever he can. the le [17:49] <Sicklucker> Like its literally half his posts. [17:49] <Snickers_> sicklucker [17:49] <Snickers_> why is ls the cop [17:50] <Snickers_> how did you know it before [17:50] <Sicklucker> and he was not in a spot where he needed to bus me. Infact everyone was town reading me untill I helped convince them eden is town [17:50] <Snickers_> geript outted him [17:50] <Sicklucker> when koshi voted him [17:50] <Sicklucker> it wa ssuper obvious [17:50] <Snickers_> sicklucker [17:50] <Snickers_> how did you know ls was the cop before he outted [17:50] <Sicklucker> also when koshi said someone pmed him [17:50] <Sicklucker> I went int voice chat with koshi 10 minutes later and ls was there [17:51] <Sicklucker> i just said why [17:51] <Sicklucker> koshi made it super obvious [17:51] <Sicklucker> now that we know I knew he was the cop why didnt I nk him? [17:52] <Snickers_> cause youre the godfather [17:52] <Snickers_> and rayn was attacking you [17:52] <Snickers_> and lc wasnt doing shit like gobble [17:52] <Snickers_> was in that other game [17:52] <Sicklucker> what does that have to do with anything [17:52] <Sicklucker> I dont understand you [17:52] <Snickers_> well two minutes till lynch [17:52] <Sicklucker> READ EDENS FILTER [17:52] <Sicklucker> 8 MINUTES [17:52] <Sicklucker> READ IT [17:53] <Snickers_> ls what are you thinking [17:53] <Sicklucker> Ls remember when koshi voted you randomly and gave no reason? [17:53] <Sicklucker> thats when I knew you were cop [17:53] <LightningStrike> I knew why he did it lol [17:54] <Snickers_> but u dont want to kill the cop [17:54] <Snickers_> if lc is ur partner [17:54] <Snickers_> haha [17:54] <LightningStrike> but lc was a easy bus snickers [17:54] <Snickers_> sicklucker [17:54] <Snickers_> we only have on minute [17:54] <Sicklucker> Lc literraly does not mtter [17:54] <Sicklucker> we have 6 minutes but if your right SWITCH [17:55] <Sicklucker> Oats tried so hard this game for oats [17:55] <Sicklucker> he went agro [17:55] <Sicklucker> thats not oats town game. but hes not being agro anymore [17:56] <Sicklucker> 4minutes [17:56] <Sicklucker> according,tothread [17:56] <Snickers_> ls any last thoughts? [17:56] <Sicklucker> He just voted me [17:56] <Sicklucker> well fuck you guys you deserve the losss [17:56] <Sicklucker> afk [17:57] <Snickers_> shit [17:57] <Snickers_> ls I AM SO CONFUSED [17:57] <Snickers_> has oats [17:57] <Snickers_> been playing his town game? [17:57] <LightningStrike> yes [17:57] <Snickers_> sigh [17:57] <Snickers_> I think its ls [17:57] <Snickers_> its sl [17:57] <Snickers_> but heres the thing [17:57] <Snickers_> Id rather fuck over oats than sl [17:58] <LightningStrike> play to win snickers [17:58] <Snickers_> well now [17:58] <Snickers_> you hold the vote [17:58] <Snickers_> lol [17:58] <Snickers_> fuck [17:58] <LightningStrike> I voting Sicklucker [17:58] <Snickers_> whats bothering me [17:58] <Snickers_> is [17:58] <Snickers_> rayn died instead of cop [17:58] <Snickers_> hmm [17:58] <Snickers_> i think we are right tho [17:58] <LightningStrike> because they had a rolecop so I could of fakeclaimed [17:59] <LightningStrike> but lc was the rolecop and lynched [17:59] <LightningStrike> so I'm the Cop [17:59] <Snickers_> idk fuck man [17:59] <Snickers_> haha [17:59] <Sicklucker> your not changing ls mind [17:59] <Sicklucker> hes too dense [17:59] <Snickers_> fuck oats [17:59] <Snickers_> either way [17:59] <Sicklucker> gg wp oats [18:00] <Sicklucker> if you wanted to vote oats you shoul dhave did it 50 minutes ago so you held the hammer and can change at deadline [18:00] <Sicklucker> now you dont have th etiebreaker [18:00] <Snickers_> idk I wanted to pressure you haha [18:01] <Snickers_> yo guys [18:01] <Snickers_> I am the godfather [18:01] <Sicklucker> ... [18:01] <Sicklucker> slowroll [18:01] <Sicklucker> of the century [18:01] <Snickers_> hmm [18:01] <Snickers_> i think sicklucker is town [18:01] <Snickers_> haha [18:01] <Sicklucker> NOSHIT [18:01] <Snickers_> lol [18:02] <Snickers_> i am glad palmar is around [18:02] <Sicklucker> this is my first time getting mislynched in 15 [18:02] <Sicklucker> games sorry if im really pissed [18:03] <LightningStrike> sorry sicklucker if you are town [18:03] <Snickers_> idk [18:04] <Snickers_> I think this game has a lot of statistics in it [18:04] <Snickers_> even if you played really well there is still a decent chance of losing [18:04] <Snickers_> a lot of shit seemed to add up agaisnt you sl [18:04] <Snickers_> and oats shit that added up agaisnt him wasnt much [18:07] <Sicklucker> Ya you guys ruined m yday [18:07] <Sicklucker> I thought I was gonna get nominated for best mafia performance | ||
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idk if that makes sense. Thanks for hosting palmar. | ||
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The way you were acting about it seemed really scummy. | ||
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I shit up the thread getting ve lynched. | ||
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The first two things were just lies tho. | ||
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and you DID usually end up somewhere decent. so where yat right now?
