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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:06 GMT
#1961
I pointed out something that was objective and could easily be figured out. I am not going to go through 12 pages with a lot of rage in it too find something this late in the game when no one is listening to me. That is also subjective.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 01 2015 04:06 GMT
#1962
On February 27 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like from my perspective Snickers (as town) has a reason to assume that LC will flip Rolecop and it's because he's "made up his mind" that he thinks I'm GF. His confirmation bias has that fact just lodged in his brain.

That's not the case where Oats is concerned, he isn't currently assuming I'm guilty with a greencheck on me, so he can't make the connection that LC must be the Rolecop.

That's why Oats is suspicious for making that assumption but Snickers isn't, in theory.


This is my current reasoning for wanting to lynch Oats. He, like you, unreasonably assumed that we're lynching into greenchecks after Liancourt was lynched. Both of you exhibited signs of KNOWING Liancourt was going to not only flip mafia, but flip mafia Rolecop BEFORE he actually flipped. Oats in his explanation of what he wants to do next day, and you in your absolutely asinine tunnel of me in the face of overwhelming evidence.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 01 2015 04:15 GMT
#1963
The reason I want to lynch you is that your tunnel coincides with rayn dying after being suspicious of you. Like, you can call that whatever you want. I think it makes you mafia pushing a mafia agenda. Koshi thought mafia were going to try and push me. He told me this in PMs. And now you're pushing me, and calling it "plan Koshi" lmao.

It's just overwhelming, the evidence against you from my perspective. FF died thinking so as well. Rayn died thinking so as well.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:23 GMT
#1964
Okay ve by that logic.

You posted a post talking about how the lc flip seemed to easy.

You said somebody should be in here defending him. But by that logic me or oats would have to be defending him cause you were assuming him as godfather.

Then casually said he could be the afk rb.

All of the stuff you said was wrong. Me and oats were not defending him. That is a terrible way to say we should not lynch sl. You never even waited most of the day too see if someone would defend him.

I call you out on it and then lc flips rb. How am I not going to see you as godfather.

From you post I was 99% sure lc was going to flip rb and you were going to flip godfather.

Ofc I am ok lyncing into green checks in that world.

And people shouldnt be so pissed lynching into green checks. Its one of those rules mafia players hold so highly but it has exceptions and needs.

SO snickers(me) ve oats sl ls lc ff.

ff and ls are confirmed town since no cc.

me ve oats sl lc.

Since I am town I am going to get me out of it. I am not saying I am town, I am saying that I know I am town.

we have ve oats sl lc.



Now I dont know about oats but here is two reasoning I had and they are both sound.

1.so we have two green checks. if lc is the godfather the game is over. I wasnt letting this discourage me from continuing to put effort into the thread. I am prty sure lc is scum so he is the rb. my conclusion, Checks probably dont matter.

2. Also statistically speaking there was a 50% chance that one of the green checks were the godfather since two were checked. You cant just rule that out. Also you dont just play by statistics. The checks were probably going to go on scummy players. So in reality it is higher than 50%.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:27 GMT
#1965
On March 01 2015 13:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
The reason I want to lynch you is that your tunnel coincides with rayn dying after being suspicious of you. Like, you can call that whatever you want. I think it makes you mafia pushing a mafia agenda. Koshi thought mafia were going to try and push me. He told me this in PMs. And now you're pushing me, and calling it "plan Koshi" lmao.

It's just overwhelming, the evidence against you from my perspective. FF died thinking so as well. Rayn died thinking so as well.


come on ve.

I cant take you seriosly with these posts.

after multiple days, nights and pms you are calling oats scum after one incident?

Post the pms. How have you not posted them yet. Now you just admitted to lying again. You were acting like it is good to post confirmed town's pms in game but here is another time of you not doing it.

.... No I am pushing you cause I think you are scum. Plan koshi really does not matter anymore since no one thinks I am town, not even the former town circle residents and plan koshi did not call for pushing you.

I dont get how you hold rayn in such high regard?

Why are you not lynching sl tomorrow since rayn wanted to lynch him? Why is it oats before sl even tho you said oats only did one thing scummy ? But rayn wanted sl to die. Like was rayn reading oats as scum? I dont even know.

FF said to analyze his case which no one did besides me. I proved it wrong.

You cant be this far into the game with soo little reasons to lynch someone, reasons that conflict with each other, and reasons that are false.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:29 GMT
#1966
Now I am going to go dive rayns filter and make sure everything adds up since you hold his filter is such high regard when it should be in low regard.

But why do you lynch oats over sl if you trust rayn.

Doesnt add up.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:29 GMT
#1967
That is selective hearing. That is "hearing" with an agenda.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:33 GMT
#1968
I trusted koshi when he wanted to lynch into lc and not ve. I trust koshi on all things he told me.

he said to lynch you when I pressure you and you make no sense.

Sorry for trusting the confirmed towns all the time and not when it is good for me.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:37 GMT
#1969
And ve peaces out once again? But why does he do this. He constantly contradicts himself but nobody bats an eye.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:41 GMT
#1970
On February 28 2015 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town because we were talking with geript for all kind of stuff for some time in IRC.

VE's scumread on me at the start of the game was reasonable (he literally always thinks i am mafia at the start of the game because he doesn't know why i say stuff i do). His read was well reasoned and followed a clear train of thought.

Then we chatted about Oats. we concluded Oats is town for reasons. (this is for later on)

After some time i asked Eden to join the skype chat. Then i posted something like "whoever wants to join come on". VE did. First of all this is a town tell in my opinion because if VE was mafia i doubt he would have joined in convo with both me and geript (just because at least i have played a TON of PM-games and VE knows it -- i know how to catch mafia in PM's). VE had no reason to join because he wasn't even posting at that time.

Furthermore in the chat with us VE seemed to follow the same reads me and geript had (mostly -- obviously we disagree on the strength of some reads). Then we asked him about Oats. VE gave LITERALLY the same reasoning for Oats being town that me and geript had concluded a while ago. Like that is NOT what mafia does. At least not out of the blue when, in the thread neither of me and geript hadn't even shown we have a town read on Oats (i was arguing with him at that time). HUUUGEEE TOWNTELL!

Then, when Snickers made the post (before me and VE voted), i said "wow, that snickers post is so bad". geript said something like "yeah agreed". VE said "i already made a post about it". again, a HUGE TOWNTELL MINDMELD VE <3

Basically VE is never going to be fucking mafia in this game.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 08:07 LoneMeow wrote:
Day 2





raynpelikoneet the Sales Representative has died.




Day ends in


Rayn had me as most solidly town. Most solidly. In no world do I get rayn to write a book about how town I am, "infiltrate" the town circle, and then kill the member who has me most solidly town.

Everything Snickers says about "trust the dead people who are town" is invalid while he's trying to lynch me because everyone who has died, except for geript the moron had me as definitely town.

Lynch the scum, win the game.

##Vote: Snickers

Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:44 GMT
#1971
So to say it simply because you guys can never understand me.

Ve wants to lynch oats for one reason. Or atleast that is all he will tell the thread.

One of ve's reasoning for voting me is that rayn read me as scum.

Rayn also thought sl was scum and that oats was town.

But he does not factor these two reasons for the lynch tomorrow?

Why because how does he avoid his lynch tomrrow? Voting oats and not sicklucker. He is out to avoid his lynch. Not to trust rayn. Not to catch scum.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:45 GMT
#1972
Wow look how his thinking works out so perfectly for him, just like the defending lc post.

Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 04:47 GMT
#1973
This is called a scum slip. A scumslip is something that is substantial not just one post where someone can type something by mistake.

Now I have figured out two that ve has done. Probably there has been a lot more?

Are you guys going to start treating me with respect or are you going to ignore me and trust ve 100%?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 01 2015 04:57 GMT
#1974
On March 01 2015 13:47 Snickers wrote:
This is called a scum slip. A scumslip is something that is substantial not just one post where someone can type something by mistake.

Now I have figured out two that ve has done. Probably there has been a lot more?

Are you guys going to start treating me with respect or are you going to ignore me and trust ve 100%?

I mean they don't have to ignore you if you stop calling me mafia. But if that's all you're going to do then you're not doing anything productive. End of story. Who's your lynch after me? I honestly have no idea, but EVERYONE knows who I would lynch if you end up being town. That's because while you're saying I'm not doing anything, I'm making posts that actually convey my thoughts about the gamestate to others. And they read me town for it. No one is sheeping Koshi, they've arrived at their OWN read of me. I'M mentioning Koshi because YOU have been mentioning Koshi for two cycles while screaming about my guilt.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 05:01 GMT
#1975
You are lying again. I have done a ton this day. You have done very little. Whenever you do something, its with scummy logic and no one sees it for some reason. But look here is the circle again. But the circle consists of you doing nothing.

Tell me one thing you did today that doesnt defend urself.

Why do you give me one reason you are voting oats but oats said rayn is town but you hold rayn in high regard.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 05:03 GMT
#1976
Explain to me why a godfather pushes a lynch so hard?

Why do care you complaining about me tunneling if I am the godfather in your eyes.

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 01 2015 05:07 GMT
#1977
I've explained in explicit terms why I'm lynching you and who I'd lynch if the mafia isn't you. That's all anyone can ask of any townie in this game, and I've done it.

Further, I've been in PMs with players giving my thoughts and inquiring theirs. I don't care if you believe me or not it's true.

I've TRIED and FAILED to convince Oats of your guilt.

These are all things I've done that are not defending myself.

And on top of that, the thought of me being mafia doesn't make sense as I've outlined previously. Rayn thought I was town and then rayn died. That never happens when I'm mafia. You can call it WIFOM, I call it playing to win the game. If I were mafia, I would play to win the game and NK someone who was suspicious of me. Not someone who has been townreading AND HARD DEFENDING me all game long.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
March 01 2015 05:09 GMT
#1978
Why does it matter if people know who I am going to lynch tomrrow? So you can find out if it worth your time to not lynch me cause that would make you look bad?

Town snickers saw there was no way of you dying in lylo so why would I worry about lylo when I think you are godfather.

Which is funny because I have probably thought the most about tomorrow since I saw you were 100% confirmed town by peoples actions.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 01 2015 05:10 GMT
#1979
On March 01 2015 14:09 Snickers wrote:
Why does it matter if people know who I am going to lynch tomrrow? So you can find out if it worth your time to not lynch me cause that would make you look bad?

Town snickers saw there was no way of you dying in lylo so why would I worry about lylo when I think you are godfather.

Which is funny because I have probably thought the most about tomorrow since I saw you were 100% confirmed town by peoples actions.

And yet I still don't know who you want to lynch tomorrow since you "know I'm town now".
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 01 2015 05:12 GMT
#1980
Like you say that you think I'm 100% confirmed town, but ur vote is still on me. You say you've thought the most about tomorrow, but you've spoken the least about tomorrow. All I know about tomorrow is when you in desperation screamed to lynch ME tomorrow after we lynch you and you "flip town".
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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