Newbie Mini Mafia LIX

On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town.

On October 07 2014 10:33 loafery wrote:
enough about games i've played on other forums

what are we gonna do about this today, I'm apparently confirmed town we got 3 people here and I'm getting positive vibes from you two so I don't think you two guys are scum nothing really suspicious.

On October 08 2014 07:40 loafery wrote:
"This set-up is based off of the Matrix6 setup with added flavor. This is a semi-open set-up meaning that while all of the roles possible will be displayed the number of each role in game is unknown."

for my defense of being noobish I frankly didn't read this part of the OP. My mistake. To be frank, it's my first time playing semi-open or any kind of open setup. It's always been where everyone knows which roles there are and its fixed.

I srsly don't want to bring in external factors to the game and my credibility and what not. If I have to then so be it...

But atm i want to read abuse as scummy for trying so unnaturally hard and tunneling into lynching me.

On October 08 2014 09:19 loafery wrote:
Firstly I don't really get what the difference is between calling myself town and confirmed town.

And for abuse to pick up on this and accuse me of being scum seems a little far fetched to me.

On October 08 2014 09:41 loafery wrote:


So what your saying is if a mafia is pushing someone for lynch they would be read as town?

On October 08 2014 09:25 loafery wrote:


you are awfully staying in the background and letting others do the work while you just ask questions and try to care about twhats going on. I have a scum read on you right now.

On October 08 2014 09:45 loafery wrote:



How would players reading me as town be scummy?

On October 07 2014 23:12 Superbia wrote:


I'm pretty sure all the points he brought up were brought up before. Interested to see what he has to say when he comes back.

On October 08 2014 15:15 Rad wrote:
Breshke, what are your thoughts about Fecalfeast? Are you satisfied with him parking his vote on zen?

On October 08 2014 15:28 Rad wrote:
Btw:



So are you saying you don't believe zen is scum now? Or you think fecal's trying to bus zen to gain town cred?

On October 08 2014 15:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
You want to know the post that really made me vote him? It was by superbia, even.


I am waiting for the man to post and you seriously come to the conclusion that I'm the best lynch target? Are you getting nervous or what?

On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:


Just vote, you can always retract your vote.

On October 09 2014 05:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Here is a list of what i think of the people here:

Very scummy: Super, Rad
Scummy: FF, loaf
Null: Elvis, Dust, breshke
Townie: Abuse

Reasoning: I agree with what other write about FF, thought i don't have time to write more specifics. The Null people really haven't given me much to go on. Abuse i read as town because of how he really started posting content in a time when basically no one else posted anything of worth. The rest are the same reasonings as my previous posts.

On October 09 2014 05:50 Elvis! wrote:
I'm sorry about this short post, but I want it to be able to be discussed before the deadline.
I will insert more quotes that support this asap, but due to real life issues I had less time than I thought I would.

My current read for the most scummy is: Breshke:
##Vote: Breshke
He does post an amount which is not suspiciously low, but moslty in a very short manner each time. Even though he asks some questions, there rarely is follow-up, more analysis or just generally use of that information.
I see this as a subtle way to try to hide being mafia, shallowly you appear non-mafia, since you can see him posting and gathering some information, but I think what he's doing is more to confuse town than to hunt scum. Which is what we're here for.
The only way he "contributes" is with a fishy vote on Zen, which Superbia and the surrounding characters have a decent case on, but Breshke was merely a small time before the vote, defending Zen against accusations.
A townie would adress why, and in detail, one should not only follow a bandwagon, insert personal thoughts about the case and support it.
He simply jumps on something he as a mafia knows is not mafia, is a good scapegoat and has a decent case against the person.
This is the perfect opportunity for him as mafia to strike and hide.
Then there is multiple posts which insert chaos, which according to this analysis (yes abuse I too have read this one - it's really good), is exactly mafia's role.
To sum it up:
How do I think I detected him?
He not only does donkey things like loaf, but things that stop us from scumhunting.
He jumps on a bandwagon that even though it has a decent background, might be close but not quite(read: a lot of people are getting read as scum at the moment, most people vote on Zen because to them he appears a little more scummy than the rest, but not in a crazy substantial way).

my current list:

abuse + superbia go the most into scumhunting. I like how they don't fear to be in the spotlight and get their cases forward(!!!). They share position 1 - would not put them in my town circle quite yet, waiting for cases on more people (which they announced already) to happen.
Rad is not as intense in doing so as they are, but I don't see scum indicators and few town indicators, so he's on position 3 in my townPosition 3 - leans town
FecalFeast for me at the moment is null, I can't really say what his actions indicate the most, will look at him in more detail later when the next big thing happens. He does not seem dangerous or disruptive, so he's not a scum read for me. position 4 - null.
dusts: -- no position --.
loafery for me at the moment is just making a whole bunch of weird actions which might or might not be intended to be disruptive. Since some of his things are more scum-like than town he is Position 5 - leans scum.
Zen for me still is the second worst of them all, but for me I think Breshes disruptive and chaotic actions are more clear. He might be the second scum with breshke, since he isn't as obvious as Breshke for me atm I'll not vote for him. Position 6 - leans into scum like a drunk guy on a fit girl.
Breshke - see above.

On October 09 2014 07:58 loafery wrote:
just a quick post before I start reading. Is it right in assuming the people that defended zen before his flip lean towards town?

On October 09 2014 08:38 Fecalfeast wrote:


I was calling you scum before but this post is making me reconsider. First, though:

The bolded section, if I'm reading this correctly, is saying that you looked at the game from a third party view and saw yourself and zen as the most scummy so voted for someone else(me)? Why are you looking at the game from another point of view if you are town?
Please let me know if I read that incorrectly.

On October 09 2014 16:18 abuse wrote:
@FecalFeast, Okay this is good enough for now.


Free townpoints to anyone who says why breshke is scum. (I will post the answer closer to the end of N1).

On October 09 2014 16:18 abuse wrote:
@FecalFeast, Okay this is good enough for now.


Free townpoints to anyone who says why breshke is scum. (I will post the answer closer to the end of N1).

On October 09 2014 17:04 abuse wrote:
Also, I didn't say the person who'd call you mafia would get a town read.
I said that the person who said why would get town points. (which are basically nothing.)

On October 10 2014 01:30 Elvis! wrote:
This might be in the wrong order sometimes, but I gave a comment to everything I find chaotic, disruptive, useless, fitting into everyone, trying to get town cred, not committing to pushes, generally posting low amounts of text per post not doing throughout analysis.
All of these for me are scum indicators.
Gotta go to training now, thus I don't have time to polish this, I hope it's satisfying.
I wanted to get this out now since Breshke for some reason wants people to wait for this.









Breshke telling people to read scum and start a wagon, while he himself has no reasonable case yet? He had his one on ff, but even though he puts him as scum he doesn't really push for it, doesn't start a wagon, doesn't encourage other to read into ff more, and mostly, is in not commital about it.
The thing that concerns me the most is that he votes for someone who noone made a big case of yet and doesn't really analyse ff in a big way either. So if you read him scum, why not be confident, research and make a case out of it?




This post has been frequently talked about, what's more confusing than defending a player, and then claiming he's scum for reasons he himself isn't fulfilling? Where's your committal reads? Going on the player everyone is on about without giving much proof or anything isn't committal.





Just because two people go on the same person (which you did go on as well) doesn't mean one can "tell the other what to do". How is that relevant?
then " He has said he doesnt like to be lumped together with super and then votes along side him without explaining anything. " so did you. I mean ok, if it isn't your style to make big posts, I guess that's not really good for town but fine, but why complain about others who do the same?





As above mentioned - just like yours I feel like. If you make a reasonable case on Zen, fine, but you basically just agreed with everyone else and cruised by. Since we now know Zen is town, this makes a lot more sense to do as mafia.





He isn't a donkey. This is unnecesarry information, but makes you look like you're doing something.





Same with you. I really don't get you at this point. You love pointing out how people are not doing good cases or analysis and are jumping onto people while your posts rarely exceed a couple of lines and we are yet to see you push someone substantually.



... and everyone else would read you like they should anyways. If a mafia openly reads you mafia this might very well make him slip up because he can not be commital to such a read. I don't think having everyone read a person about his alignment at once is terrible and I don't see how this is "has no reason". Some people are suspicious about you, why wouldn't they ask everyone else how they feel about you? To remind, you did this a couple of times (blindly asking about someone feels about X person).





Why did you post this same thing twice?
So by that you are positive that Zen is town, am I right? It would be useless to have a mafia explain how he feels about stuff.
So I conclude that you read Zen town, since you didn't vote on him and didn't like the case, why didn't you defend Zen, why didn't you ask for his opinion on other at a time where things could actually be changed? At this point it's too late to save him and vote mafia, if you think his reads are important why not try getting them earlier?
In your list it says Zen leans scum, why would you want him to do a read?





Then this list.
To not rant about all the other things again: Why are there no explanations on any of these? This is a default list for anyone wanting to get town points by ranking the popular persons high.

On October 09 2014 05:50 Elvis! wrote:
I'm sorry about this short post, but I want it to be able to be discussed before the deadline.
I will insert more quotes that support this asap, but due to real life issues I had less time than I thought I would.

My current read for the most scummy is: Breshke:
##Vote: Breshke
He does post an amount which is not suspiciously low, but moslty in a very short manner each time. Even though he asks some questions, there rarely is follow-up, more analysis or just generally use of that information.
I see this as a subtle way to try to hide being mafia, shallowly you appear non-mafia, since you can see him posting and gathering some information, but I think what he's doing is more to confuse town than to hunt scum. Which is what we're here for.
The only way he "contributes" is with a fishy vote on Zen, which Superbia and the surrounding characters have a decent case on, but Breshke was merely a small time before the vote, defending Zen against accusations.
A townie would adress why, and in detail, one should not only follow a bandwagon, insert personal thoughts about the case and support it.
He simply jumps on something he as a mafia knows is not mafia, is a good scapegoat and has a decent case against the person.
This is the perfect opportunity for him as mafia to strike and hide.
Then there is multiple posts which insert chaos, which according to this analysis (yes abuse I too have read this one - it's really good), is exactly mafia's role.
To sum it up:
How do I think I detected him?
He not only does donkey things like loaf, but things that stop us from scumhunting.
He jumps on a bandwagon that even though it has a decent background, might be close but not quite(read: a lot of people are getting read as scum at the moment, most people vote on Zen because to them he appears a little more scummy than the rest, but not in a crazy substantial way).

my current list:

abuse + superbia go the most into scumhunting. I like how they don't fear to be in the spotlight and get their cases forward(!!!). They share position 1 - would not put them in my town circle quite yet, waiting for cases on more people (which they announced already) to happen.
Rad is not as intense in doing so as they are, but I don't see scum indicators and few town indicators, so he's on position 3 in my townPosition 3 - leans town
FecalFeast for me at the moment is null, I can't really say what his actions indicate the most, will look at him in more detail later when the next big thing happens. He does not seem dangerous or disruptive, so he's not a scum read for me. position 4 - null.
dusts: -- no position --.
loafery for me at the moment is just making a whole bunch of weird actions which might or might not be intended to be disruptive. Since some of his things are more scum-like than town he is Position 5 - leans scum.
Zen for me still is the second worst of them all, but for me I think Breshes disruptive and chaotic actions are more clear. He might be the second scum with breshke, since he isn't as obvious as Breshke for me atm I'll not vote for him. Position 6 - leans into scum like a drunk guy on a fit girl.
Breshke - see above.

On October 10 2014 15:27 Elvis! wrote:
So apparently now according to Breshke I'm mafia for no mafia reasons. There solely is town reasons behind my post and through my analysis of Breshke I have enough reason to say why he is not only useless and hiding, but outright disturbing us at scumhunting. Really just read my big post for the reasons.
If Breshke would have read my posts right he would know that there is not contradiction between calling someone very scummy but yet town.
Saying I'm scum for this sole reason, which I explained multiple times already, is pointless, there is no decent analysis at all of my case in his post, it's basically just OMGUS.

This OMGUS defense just further proves how he doesn't have any town motives. If a town thinks someone is mafia, the townie would make a posts with proof of scummy behaviour and thus stir up discussion on the matter.
While everyone can feel free about talking about my alignment, since I've got nothing to hide I think it's pointless and that we're not doing proper scumhunting with this.
Looking forward to everyone else's posts on Breshke and other scum pushes.
Especially from superbia since he said he now has to reevaluate everything and I'm interested in what he'll come up with.

On October 10 2014 15:58 abuse wrote:


Because if I say that I would claim as vet and I don't claim that means I'm not the vet.
Also that post of mine you tried to quote is not scummy.
My stance is clear.
I think a vet should claim, because if you have already been hit, then scum already know you're a vet, no reason to not let town know it aswell, as we get a confirmed townie that way, but I am not going to force a vet to claim. It is their game to play.

On October 10 2014 17:09 abuse wrote:


what I say is only based on the situation IF we have a vet. Vet claiming will not really impact how mafia choose their next kill. Scum should already know he's a vet just based on their own roles.
Also - what you are saying about him only claiming if he is going to be lynched is not bad. It is also correct. I never said the vet (if we have one) should claim right now. I said at some point.

On October 10 2014 17:20 abuse wrote:


True, but if scum has a roleblocker he was not sucking on a thumb tonight, so if scum aren't dumb they should have som ideas as to what the setup is already.
Also we are only talking about a Vet who if exists, most likely does not have a vest anymore. I am confused by your statement about PR's sorting themselves out when they decide to, because at no point did we say that other PR's had to do anything at this point, and people doing stuff when they decide to themselves is what I've been pushing for this entire time. Why are you trying to make it sound like I did the opposite?

On October 10 2014 17:54 abuse wrote:


1) where did he start scum hunting and does scumhunting instantly make you a town? Can scum not pretend to scum hunt, especially if it's done so weakly that people (me for example) did not even notice it as scum hunting? Because if you think saying "superbia is scum because he farms others posts to read them later" is scumhunting then you are wrong.

2) Why does it matter if it is a newbie game or not? Your defense was rendered useless when you voted for him in the same post. You say you wanted to read him scum but not for that. Why did you read him scum then? How can you expect him not to be able to explain? Why do you assume such things if you did not know at that point what was zen's skill level? I emphasized the first vote because your first vote was done on someone you had not even mentioned before, yet when you were suspicious of loaf you did not vote for him.

3) why do you find the time to "reread ff's filter and see him scummy" all of a sudden, but not have time to read the previous page of the thread?

4) why was loaf town in your list? Where does the confidence come from. It doesn't matter who is top town who is least town if you think they are town.

5) Nothing much has changed for me after zens flip (at that point at least) was because your actions towards zen were the most suspicious during D1. I have checked every single person in the thread for this. I am not sure loaf is scum, he just seems like the most likely candidate if we consider you being scum. Scum don't have to be on the wagon to lynch a townie if the lynch already has enough support from town.


@ fecal, as for your question, basically breshke's post did not persuade me, but I still do not know how I feel about him pointing out the flaw in elvis's post, I think it is a pretty big deal.. :/ elvis did explain it to a decent degree, but it still leaves him as a coinflip.. The fact that breshke did notice that is quite townie of him.. I am not sure if it is townie enough to make him town though.. I need more time and events to clear this out.

On October 10 2014 18:33 abuse wrote:



Now that I look at the setup better you are right that scum will know what the setup is if they know if there is a vet in the game.
Still, do you think giving them that information in exchange for receiving information ourselves is such a bad deal that you would vote a townie for this? Because that's not helping town. Also it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far.
Scum's main job currently except for causing mislynches and staying hidden is finding PR's.

I like your rage though. +1 town point.

On October 10 2014 18:33 abuse wrote:



Now that I look at the setup better you are right that scum will know what the setup is if they know if there is a vet in the game.
Still, do you think giving them that information in exchange for receiving information ourselves is such a bad deal that you would vote a townie for this? Because that's not helping town. Also it's no good assuming that scum do not have a brain to have ideas as to what the setup could be right now, judging by other people's posts so far.
Scum's main job currently except for causing mislynches and staying hidden is finding PR's.

I like your rage though. +1 town point.

On October 10 2014 20:13 abuse wrote:


Because scum have more information on their end, because they know what roles they are, so they know more what signs they should be looking for. And no it is not like I am trying to scare the PR's into outing, where the fuck did you get that idea? I am EXPLICITLY saying in pretty much all of my posts that other PR's should not out right now under any circumstances. This is precisely the reason why I am voting you now. You are making stuff up, while trying to paint me black. Currently there is no way in hell I am going to consider elvis a bigger scum than you. He did say that Zen was town before he was flipped, but as he himself explained, it IS possible that he just assumed that while trying to figure out what you as scum were thinking.
Every single one of your latest posts just paints you more and more as scum.

On October 10 2014 21:58 Elvis! wrote:



Which leads to them knowing a lot about the setup.
If there is a Roleblocker, only 2 scenarios are possible:
Mafia Roleblocker Town Cop Town Doctor or
1-shot Bulletproof Townie Mafia Roleblocker Town Jailkeeper

So they would know that there cannot be a Tracker.

If they know there is no Roleblocker it can only be
Town Cop Mafia Goon Vanilla Townie or
Mafia Goon Town Doctor Town Tracker

So they would know that there cannot be a 1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

How does talking about this amount of information not make sense? It's very relevant how the situation would be after roleclaims, and if it might have advantages for the town.

Why do you refuse talking about all kinds of possible scenarios? It's not like there is an obvious answer to them.

To repeat:
Zen was not 100% scum for me at the time.
If someone isn't 100%, which since this is the game of mafia is extremely rare to happen, he must always be available to be seen as townie.
You don't want people to tunnel? Allow different perspectives.

This is the most interesting thing you have said on the topic:



This is exaclty what I did with Zen, getting him outside my tunnel and viewing as a weird, possible town.
Now this for you is a reason to call me scum, even though you want people to do EXACTLY that with you.
Whaaaaaaaaat?

On October 11 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
2. I tried to find the post but I couldn't but from last game someone important (blazinghand I think?) said "The two people arguing are probably town, look to the people watching" in more or fewer words.

On October 11 2014 14:25 Fecalfeast wrote:

I do not have time to just give a read on everyone. I have to take a foodsafe course early in the morning tomorrow.

Give me a name and i will filter dive them.

On October 12 2014 14:23 loafery wrote:
anyone else find it odd that superbia and abuse singlehandedly lynched elvis?

On October 13 2014 07:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Doesn't matter if rad helps me right now, or is actually mafia. I have my scumread and will ride this vote to the grave, I'm not sure about any of you anymore.

##vote loafery

On October 12 2014 14:23 loafery wrote:
anyone else find it odd that superbia and abuse singlehandedly lynched elvis?

On October 13 2014 14:38 loafery wrote:
I find it odd u guys think there is a definite tracker

On October 13 2014 15:43 loafery wrote:
I don't like how you and abuse think there is a definite tracker and I don't know what you want with these hypo claims of tracking, to me they're useless. It's just hypothesis. What are we meant to achieve from this?

I don't like how abuse changed his vote last second which was the deciding vote in lynching elvis when he yea could have voted for you when he even wrote that case against you. To me it was just a pretend case because both of you are scum. And then abuse pretends to be indecisive at the end voting for bresh first then finally settling on elvis who eventually got lynched and was town.

It's no surprise on d1 when you 2 pretend to defend zen in words but come upwith an excuse to vote for him anyway. All you 2 have been doing is making fake cases then eventually following superbia's votes and making him look bad because you guys knew he was the vet and you guys wanted to lynch him.

But something happened at night and superbia claimed vet so you had to kill him at night. Or else you could have kept him alive and either lynched him or claimed vet and tracker yourselves and have a 50/50. You guys know there is a tracker and you guys are so sure of it because you guys don't have a roleblocker between you and only have 2 goons.

On October 13 2014 16:10 loafery wrote:
why would anyone say they were roleblocked? They'd be giving their role away and mafia would kill them instantly

Your logic that no one claimed they were roleblocked = there has to be tracker is flawed.

You know there is a tracker because you guys don't have a mafia roleblocker and you 2 are just normal mafia goons.

On October 13 2014 16:20 Fecalfeast wrote:

Claiming VT is like 5x worse than me saying I'm not the tracker, btw. At least there's ambiguity to what I am. You are now either VT or scum.

On October 10 2014 14:21 abuse wrote:


that we most definitely do claim.

On October 13 2014 16:37 loafery wrote:


don't patronize me and other players by making up this rule.

My claim that bresh and abuse is scum are even more strenghtened by the fact that you 2 have a united front about this roleblocking business. Don't know how you 2 can agree on this roleblocking issue when it's blatantly clear that you don't get notified when you get rolevlocked. I have never in my life heard of anyone being notified. You're meant to deduce whether or not you were.

On October 13 2014 16:41 loafery wrote:


you guys are making silly excuses to cover up you're slipup

On October 13 2014 16:48 Fecalfeast wrote:

If you read any posts today, read breshke pushing me still, since day 1, with no evidence.

Remember this tomorrow after we kill loaf.

On October 13 2014 16:51 loafery wrote:


you're making everyone focus on this one fact to try and discredit everything I've said when the other reasons don't depend on this rule at all.

On October 12 2014 05:58 abuse wrote:
## VOTE : Breshke

too late I guess.
If people are willing to last second switch to elvis, I'd support.

On October 13 2014 20:22 loafery wrote:
Rad ff vote breshke

breshke and abuse arent going to change their votes because they know i know they are scum.

If u want a day 4 vote breshke. Those two are only concerned about lynching only me when they should be thinking about the second mafia. If I die town loses the game.

I sometimes hate mafia when you have to convince other players i guess thats part of ur skill but they are scum just read my initial post claiming them scum. Mafia are in a better position right now. If one townie votes wrong 2 scum can just bandwagon that vote at the end so plz vote bresh if ur town. We cant have split votes today.

You're not looking at this from an objective angle like ff and I have no idea why rad is being so inac lately but we still have a day so no worries.

On October 14 2014 13:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Uh, so wait... Because loaf is going for the win... I am his scum partner by... Pushing him... And him not caring...

What? Run that by me one more time? Would I not be pushing you and helping. It looked to me like there was a lot of easy pressure on you so I could hop on and help loaf go for the win, oh wait no it didn't because I'm not scum and didn't push you... That makes me scum by association.


What are you saying bresh?

On October 14 2014 14:00 Rad wrote:


Abuse voted you, then switched to elvis following superbia (remember we now know that superbia's move was a town move). Scum doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's town and this opened an opportunity for superbia to take the fall d3 (until of course he started openly considering abuse as scum). In fact, a scum abuse HAD to follow superbia here or risk losing superbia as the scapegoat. That + what I saw as a townie fight between you and elvis is what really pushes me more to believe abuse is scum and you're town.

On October 14 2014 16:52 abuse wrote:


So you are saying you are definitely not tracker.
Crap.
Well then it's either FF or Rad, so Rad is the clear for now, he's just not as bright of a cookie as I thought.
Either way, loaf is 100% scum.
Hopefully rad stops being... like this, after loaf flips.
Can find the last scum tomorrow after the NK, which will give us tons of info.

On October 14 2014 17:39 abuse wrote:


your point only makes sense if I am scum, and I am not scum.
Also I do not believe at all that what he said were his tracks were his actual tracks. I don't believe he would track the same person twice.

On October 14 2014 17:50 abuse wrote:


I don't understand this.

On October 14 2014 17:52 abuse wrote:


I do think you are town, yes.

On October 14 2014 18:13 abuse wrote:


Yes I do, please get to the point already D:

On October 14 2014 18:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Breshke. I was saying you are. Today is for lynching scum. We discuss the other scum tomorrow when we know we get to play tomorrow. My second scum is less important right now.

For real i should be asleep

On October 15 2014 04:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay so Loaf/Rad scumteam?

So many options...

On October 15 2014 04:59 Rad wrote:
@abuse

I get that Breshke thinks you're town based on your play. I'm asking for the scenarios in which it makes most sense that you're town based on how things have played out. For example, loaf/fecal scumteam requires a retarded play. Pushing your scum partner the whole game is not impossible to do as scum and is actually the ideal thing to do.

Loaf is in 1 scenario, breshke's in 2, fecal's in 2, you're in 3. Get it?

On October 15 2014 05:42 abuse wrote:
Now I know how jenny felt.... :D

On October 15 2014 05:55 Rad wrote:
In the case of an abuse/breshke scum team, it's best for breshke to do exactly what you two are doing right now. However, you'd also want to implicate him here if you're not a scum team.

Game is hard =/

On October 15 2014 06:14 Barakos wrote:


Yeah, that was kinda uncalled for, sorry.

I didn't read much of the game after your case on breshke and me calling you bad was mainly based on that case.
Now, that I read a bit of the game it was pretty clear, lone meant loaf, but that's hindsight.

Your case on Breshke still was bad. :p

On October 15 2014 06:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also zen man with the superpower scum reads