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abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 07:24 GMT

#161

On October 07 2014 16:20 loafery wrote:

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Is there any reason why I can't call myself town? Those two seemed to read me as town so I followed suit.

Calling yourself town and calling yourself confirmed town are two different things.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 07 2014 07:46 GMT

#162

On October 07 2014 15:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
rad: I never called him confirmed town, I just said I was reading him town based on his reaction to his misinterpretation of the game setup. The only reason I even announced this is because I was reading him scummy for telling everyone to claim.

this is all I really think about loaf

On October 07 2014 16:24 abuse wrote:

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Calling yourself town and calling yourself confirmed town are two different things.

I agree with you here, though.

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 07:55 GMT

#163

On October 07 2014 16:46 Fecalfeast wrote:

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this is all I really think about loaf

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I agree with you here, though.

He did a scummy move by telling everyone to claim, then he took his words back, because he misinterpreted the game setup (which we have no real proof of, and this can also be faked) which makes you read him as town, instead of null, and then he pushes forward the fact that he is confirmed town, while trying to buddy you and superbia.

So what is your stance on him now? Are you reading him as town now? Null? Scum?

Also, as you yourself pointed out previously -

On October 07 2014 15:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
also I don't like this association of me and superbia just because we touched pinkies

what do you think of this concerning his alignment ?

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 07 2014 07:58 GMT

#164

I mistyped. I meant I read him more town than before, I would agree with the term 'null' for him.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 07 2014 08:35 GMT

#165

I'm going to bed, final thoughts for now:
abuse, I like the effort for sure but I'm not totally on board with how confidently you call loaf scum

My main concern right now is that there have been 12 hours since the game started and still multiple people have <3 posts after their /in. I'd really like to have more to read from rad, breshke, dusts, elvis!, and the_zen_man when I wake up.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 07 2014 08:36 GMT

#166

Goodnight, men of science!

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 08:44 GMT

#167

@Fecal That's fine. I am not calling him scum at this point though. I am calling him scummy.
He can also be very very newbie at this, which is what we will find out soon, though to be honest, this post below

On October 07 2014 10:13 loafery wrote:
since 2013 so i've played for about a year
and been playing live mafia also with friends so theres that too

Does not help much in that regard.

Also, to the list of people - also want to hear from Superbia.

Let's get this ball rolling, people.

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 11:25 GMT

#168

nobody here? =/

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 07 2014 11:38 GMT

#169

Yo abuse, I'm here for a little.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 07 2014 11:42 GMT

#170

Superbia you have obviously played with FF before, i know its early but how do you think his game is going so far compared to your last game together?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 07 2014 11:46 GMT

#171

A little slow, I would've liked to see everyone post. I liked the interaction between you and loaf. Also during my last game I was scum and FF was town, keep that in mind.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 07 2014 11:47 GMT

#172

Oh wait, it's breshke not abuse. Sorry, I just woke up.

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 11:47 GMT

#173

Anything to add or ask about what's going on so far?
Also - yes, what is Town FF like ?

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 11:47 GMT

#174

It was abuse, breshke just posted after me! >:O

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 07 2014 11:53 GMT

#175

On October 07 2014 20:47 abuse wrote:
Anything to add or ask about what's going on so far?
Also - yes, what is Town FF like ?

Nothing to add at this point in time. I'll participate more later, after doing my waking up rituals. I'm not planning to meta-read FF this game (especially early on) since I'm expecting newer players to switch up their game quite a bit (like myself).

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

October 07 2014 11:54 GMT

#176

Also abuse & loaf probably both town.

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 12:03 GMT

#177

On October 07 2014 20:53 Superbia wrote:

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you don't need to meta-read, just share what is he (or was in that game) like as town, as you have more experience with him than we do.

The_Zen_Man

Sweden202 Posts

October 07 2014 12:03 GMT

#178

Hi guys, sorry for being absent for a while. I'm afraid i'm going to be absent a few hours after this as well, but after that I can play for real. I thought i should do a quick analysis on loafrey, as he seems the most scummy to my eyes. First of all, i don't particularly find it scummy that he was confused about the rules, and i kind of buy that the setup in a previous game, claiming was beneficial. But as stated before, saying that you are confirmed townie is very scummy behavior. It's almost like you rush to being as most town as possible. It's especially suspecting when you say it so early in the game. It might have been poorly worded or misinterpreted by others, but some of your behaviour after is also kind of strange.

On October 07 2014 15:13 loafery wrote:

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I first thought there was 5/6 blue roles. I thought it was easy game. ff showed me it wasn't so. I admit my mistake and ff retracts his suspicions. If I were scum why would I even think of getting an easy win. I would havent mentioned anything at all.

You're coming off as very over reactive to my posts. It's all good but I have done nothing wrong.

Scum is trying to look as much of a town as possible, which includes trying to look like you are looking for a town win. As someone who has played this before, you should be well aware of this. Hell, even newcomers now this, so why do you use this faillogic? This is very scum behavior in my eyes.

On October 07 2014 15:59 loafery wrote:

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On October 07 2014 15:23 abuse wrote:

On October 07 2014 15:13 loafery wrote:

On October 07 2014 14:37 abuse wrote:
where on earth is the "good reasoning".
Why is it wrong to chase you.
How on earth can you trust them based something like that.
Since when is "haven't done anything suspicious" a town tell. If anything it's a scum tell.
"I'm sure they're capable" how the hell can you be sure of something like this at this point in the game. How can town be sure that someone else is town before N1 and after they have had no real conversation with them whatsoever.

there are so many things wrong with this post I don't even know how to end this

I don't care what you did at that point. What I care is what you did afterwards.
How the hell can you call yourself confirmed town for something like this. That is scummy beyond belief.
Also all the things I mentioned in this post you quoted. You have not addressed any of the issues I point out. Please do so and do so well. Otherwise, no way in hell am I removing my vote from you.

Right now it seems like you're using the excuse of a newbie to make everyone wear gloves while around you.
You're signaling that you are definitely town based on a incredibly stupid reason which is in no way alignment indicative, you imply that people should not chase you or suspect you, you also trust 2 people in the game already, after no real interactions at all and you're trying to buddy them. All this makes absolutely no sense from a town mindset. It comes from a mindset of scum who wants to stay below radar and does not want people to read their posts and judge their posts. The goal of such a mindset, is "I want to get in as many towncircles as possible and stay below the radar" not "I want to find and lynch scum"

I am not coming very overreactive. You slipped hard. And your defense so far was trash, and nonexisten.

Really? would I be so blunt about it? Don't you think mafia would rather stay low and not post anything of worth to the discussion than being so open and starting discussion in any way possible.

Your talking about very high tactics that would need a high skill cap to achieve for me to get into as many town circles.

And I was on the radar from the start so I failed in going below the radar and am the center of attention.

I think my reasons are legit in getting town reads from ff. He thought I gave valid reasons and realizing a scum mindset wouldn't act this way backed off. I think scum mindset there would pursue the matter no matter what because I did have dirt on my hands in proposing a mass claim and ff's actions to follow the post was very townesque to me. He had valid arguements against me to which I admit I was wrong and that was that.

But the vibes I'm getting from you are...you are really trying hard to lynch me no matter what. I see you have your reasons for which I have answered, but I don't understand what more I can do to prove my innocence. Keep questioning more if you will. Anything I missed?

There are many different ways to playing as mafia. Establishing yourself as open and creating discussion is very effective in lowering any suspicion. Also, as stated before, creating town circles does not need high skill caps.

The last paragraph is also a little puzzling. Do you think abuse is mafia? Or is it simply a kind of dirt throw back at him for voting at you?

On October 07 2014 16:20 loafery wrote:

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Is there any reason why I can't call myself town? Those two seemed to read me as town so I followed suit.

Calling yourself town and saying that you are "confirmed" town is two different things, and we need to make that distinction.

I'm gonna post more when i get home and read more thoroughly trough the thread. I just wanted to make something quick in the meantime, as getting home might take a while.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 07 2014 12:04 GMT

#179

On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town.

Why do you think loaf is town?

abuse

Latvia1931 Posts

October 07 2014 12:04 GMT

#180

On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse[/b] & loaf probably both [b]town.

O_O.
interesting.