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On March 04 2014 08:21 Holyflare wrote: Omg yes yes yes yes yes yes i will paint in as soon as i get to a pc (but /in in case i don't and i hope you take it ) | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4rBmOmI.jpg) good enough for now, laptop trackpad op | ||
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On March 05 2014 01:52 marvellosity wrote: where did you get that picture ;; can you not tell when you are faced with a genuine original Holyflare? | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:49 VisceraEyes wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/02WYIxL.png) Yay! | ||
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On March 07 2014 09:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i59.tinypic.com/ou7f9g.png) R. I. P | ||
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On March 08 2014 09:54 WaveofShadow wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HOHrFyo.jpg) | ||
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On March 15 2014 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a brilliant game plan that can't possibly fail: D1 lynch whoever Holyflare says because he's most likely right or bussing. D2 lynch Holyflare because he was changing his scumplay or he wasn't. D3 ask Coag to post his townie seal. Lynch him because if he doesn't he's mafia, if he does - policy. D4 lynch DarthPunk as a policy to ruin his scum stats. D5 lynch Koshi because at some point he will call me mafia and regardless of my affiliation convince Palmar it's the correct play to top my chances of winning the game. Also he has already won a game as SK and noone should win two games as SK. D6 lynch VE - same SK reasoning as for Koshi. D7 lynch Wave based on a feeling that he might be mafia. D8 party with Palmar - lynch Artanis because he hasn't posted enough (i decide what's enough). Profit! edit: forgot something GG I'm the biggest threat! | ||
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On March 15 2014 03:00 Blazinghand wrote: that one doesn't count cause reasons E: I replaced in to find that 2 scum died N1 so I don't count that as a loss, it's a moral victory We should technically have won that game because onegu had all 3 deathly hallows but ppl didn't like that cz QQ | ||
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On March 15 2014 03:16 Blazinghand wrote: Risen needs to get on my level http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392119-2013-mafia-awards?page=9#175 that bought me a cycle of not getting lynched after night actions confirmed me as scum But you still lost :p | ||
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On March 18 2014 11:05 DarthPunk wrote: It's objectively not balanced. 10-3 would be a standard balanced number. ![[image loading]](http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/246/3/b/ms_paint_test__crying_eyes_by_eternalfireofdeath-d5dg3l6.png) | ||
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On March 18 2014 11:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You could always bring a friend. One more I forgot to add to the list but I had already updated in the OP: Doctor can now target the same person on multiple nights. I didn't want the two doctors from Titanic II to circlesave each other or form a wall around another blue. Here, it's less of a priority since the odds of RNG'ing two doctors will be quite small. But what if it does happen? | ||
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On March 18 2014 15:09 DarthPunk wrote: Wait it's 10-4 AND scum get a Janitor a Roleblocker and a GF? how is that even close to balanced? | ||
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On March 19 2014 05:58 Palmar wrote: I don't even get it The post says 14 people left the op has 15 people signed up. I think we should lynch the host. and there are 16 faces! | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Kqez24z.png) Judge: ORDER!!!!!!!!! ORDER!!!!!!!! Any more of this nonsense and I will hold you all in contempt! *silence fills the courtroom* Judge: Now, where were we. Ah yes. The case of the serial killings. I find it quite clear that the host [UoN]Sentinel is the culprit. There is overwhelming evidence and witness testimony that points towards that conclusion. With that in mind I think it's best we move onto a verdict. Judge:I find the defendant................ GUIL- ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z9f7qNu.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1I7NeGg.png) Phoenix: HOLD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your honor. Wait. I have something that will flip this case upside down! Judge: Well what is it Mr.Wright? Hurry along now, we haven't got all day. I hope this isn't another one of your long winded theories. Phoenix: I request a 1 day recess in order to collect everything I need to prove it to the court. Judge: This is highly unorthadox Mr.Wright but I'll allow it, I'm intrigued. Court is adjourned! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r5pGxeV.png) Phoenix: Phew. I can't believe that actually worked! Holyflare: WHAT DO YOU MEAN!??!? Phoenix: Well, I knew Sentinel couldn't have been responsible because he was the host and it was just a mistake on his part putting that extra person there to frame somebody! So, logically, there is a real bad guy out there! We just have to find him by tomorrow. Holyflare:I'm on it boss! Time to gather information! | ||
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On March 19 2014 06:36 DarthPunk wrote: LOLz. Where do you come up with this stuff holyflare? I'm a great art student | ||
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On March 19 2014 06:46 Coagulation wrote: who do people think is scum DP is legitimately scum. | ||
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and here is the proof: On March 14 2014 09:37 DarthPunk wrote: /out because of hydra's. They are OP as town and Crap as scum and honestly I don't see the point unless it is like a themed hydra game. On March 19 2014 06:30 DarthPunk wrote: I hope you realise that coag is an OMGUS hydra so don't try and meta him PPL. Insta votes the coag hydra even though he has categorically stated that they are op as town and crap at scum, follows through with a shit policy when even in previous games he states: On December 15 2012 08:48 DarthPunk wrote: (witchcraft as town)sup kids. I hate policy talk. That is my policy. I am vanilla town. and doesn't try and find the alignment of the hydra! Has 1 page of filter already and it says nothing compared to most of the start to his games! gg 1 scum down | ||
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On March 19 2014 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where do we find clues Holyflare? travel takes some time! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CtbeUXn.png) | ||
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On March 19 2014 06:58 Hopeless1der wrote: That's not very scoobydoo...I'd rather lynch holy based on that casework. 2nd scum found! On March 19 2014 06:01 Hopeless1der wrote: okay guys, host made a boo boo. you cant lynch him. Phoenix: Well, I knew Sentinel couldn't have been responsible because he was the host and it was just a mistake on his part putting that extra person there to frame somebody! So, logically, there is a real bad guy out there! We just have to find him by tomorrow. Follows the theory presented by Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney! but refuses to acknowledge that it happened and wants to frame town member Holyflare as the culprit! Inexcusable scum behaviour. Who is our day 3 lynch? | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:03 Coagulation wrote: massive overdefense right here. ##vote dp It's pretty easy being this good. | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote: cultured: he went full choose your own adventure mode, bussed a teammate for all the towncred and soloed to victory off championship belt reputation http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia How does that apply here at all? In that regard I am thus bussing DP because that's what I do in my scum games. Therefore the case is in fact not horrible and you should sheep it. If I am town, I am generally correct and thus in fact you should sheep it. Either way, painting me in a negative light based on 1 game (whereas dp has stated anti policy things in numerous games, check the DB and past game filters) but still does it here. Furthermore, his overdefensive nature was seen very heavily in vengeful where he went full blow retard overreaction. This game is a much toned down version of that but still defensive because he doesn't like being critiqued. It is easy to find scum DP and I have done it. Follow me. Oh scummy number 2. | ||
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You stated in previous games that you don't like to meta but somehow blindly accept this DP TERRIBLE meta of rayn, check LXIII, check really small mafia, check a lot of games. Lots of times rayn comes in, says he is town and then fucks off for multiple hours at a time. I've also (think?) I've seen him do it as scum. It is not alignment indicative, this kind of post screams of scum agenda of finding ways to push mislynched or spread doubt. I find it hard to believe you could like this post. | ||
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wtf is that? There's no strong entry questioning a lot of logic, there's no pointing out errors there's nothing.. just pointless wifom, interesting that you liked that weak as hell post though Palmar. | ||
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Nothing really, he gets angry as both alignments sure. Yet, to push him slightly and get those overly defensive posts at the same time as spreading useless posts is actually hinting more at a scum alignment to DP. It's like trying to troll while spreading doubt and when he gets called out on things it's "oh but it was just a joke see?". I don't think it looked too jokey, or more - too trying to be jokey with a hint of truth than anything. Look at his opening in town games, it's always inquisitive, questioning, pushing! Here, it is not. | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:02 Hopeless1der wrote: when was this...stupid and terrible holyflare is scum On March 19 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote: cultured: he went full choose your own adventure mode, bussed a teammate for all the towncred and soloed to victory off championship belt reputation http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia Hopeless has played with me as scum in LXIII where I wasn't "stupid and terrible", he knows trolling isn't necessarily alignment indicative either. He mentions: On March 19 2014 06:58 Hopeless1der wrote: That's not very scoobydoo...I'd rather lynch holy based on that casework. So he knows this can come from TOWN Holyflare because I was town in the scooby doo game, which he knows because he said about scooby doo. Yet, finds it apt to say that terrible casework is scum holyflare and ignores all other instances of it happening. My case is "terrible" on you because it was based on 1 game a while ago from you (there's more recent instances too), yet, he wants to lynch me based off 1 game too. Pushing suspicion, false information, wanting to 'lynch' someone based off lazy meta, that's all scum intentions. | ||
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On March 19 2014 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the main question and if you do not answer me reasonably i am not going to move my vote. This question is also relevant to 3/4 of the thread you know. I read that coag post completely differently though. What is interesting to see is how it was pointed out that dp being overdefensive was scummy (by coag) but then they completely went over the overdefensive line in response to you. | ||
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On March 19 2014 08:31 Koshi wrote: How did he go overdefensive? Show me pls. The massive caps lock post? The point by point defense in red? | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote: You stated in previous games that you don't like to meta but somehow blindly accept this DP TERRIBLE meta of rayn, check LXIII, check really small mafia, check a lot of games. Lots of times rayn comes in, says he is town and then fucks off for multiple hours at a time. I've also (think?) I've seen him do it as scum. It is not alignment indicative, this kind of post screams of scum agenda of finding ways to push mislynched or spread doubt. I find it hard to believe you could like this post. On March 19 2014 09:12 Palmar wrote: Well I thought my post implied nothing about your alignment as the post I quoted from DP did not make any conclusion about your alignment. It was a post about DP, not you. I clarified a few posts down that I did not think it said anything about your alignment. So Coag's lie is: Palmar said he wasn't trying to lynch rayn Rayn says palmar was trying to lynch rayn (where?) ? that was the first weird thing, secondly, Palmar asked me what I implied by the sheeping thing on coag and wanted evidence: DP: On March 19 2014 07:36 DarthPunk wrote: This is a good post. If a ten headed hydra IMPROVES coags usual play I will fucking die. LMAO. Around this time DP was super duper adament about questioning people with "what do you think of holyflare's posting about me and hopeless", look what happened. NOTHING came to fruition with that. He liked coag's posts and then rayn pointed his case out about coag and DP dropped everything to do with me, everything he liked about coag's posts and then was like IM TOTALLY RIGHT OMG YES SO GUD. On March 19 2014 08:28 DarthPunk wrote: Seems shit to me. And I feel vindicated. Don't go walking in my sunshine Koshi. These sure positives so early on in the game scream of scum with too much knowledge! How can he feel vindicated before someone has even flipped? Not to mention me and coag were pushing DP early on and then he made this post: On March 19 2014 08:20 DarthPunk wrote: That is kind of funny because you hopped onto my wagon as soon as the game started. But now it is you that is under pressure it is too early to read alignments? If DP was town then this would be 100% truth because everything we wrote about DP would be wrong because it would be "too early to read alignments", yet, DP does not use the same equation when responding to coag. In fact it's "yes you are scum I am so right and so good, unlucky I got you this early haha" | ||
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On March 19 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote: You pointing out rayn does this as either alignment is completely irrelevant, I already said it wasn't alignment indicative which is essentially the same thing. Remember that story I told earlier about refusing to lynch a townie based on a post 5 minutes into the game? The post's contents were "lolol". There was literally nothing else in the post. There is no connection between "Palmar likes a post" and "Palmar thinks this post provides something of value". If I thought DP had a good point, I'd have said so. All I said was that I liked the post, it looked like something written by a townie. The "solid logic" is a tounge in cheek post. why are you so serious HF? It is nothing to do with rayn's alignment and everything to do with DP's. That is NOT the post a town DP makes. It just isn't. You think he has an 80% win rate by pointing out wifom every game that especially doesn't apply to rayn? No, he's inquisitive and actively shows that he doesn't know what is going on by being that inquisitive guy. So to point to this post in paticular after a lot had already gone on and to further say it is towny??? (what a joke) is really really odd from someone that prides themselves on finding town people day 1. You neglected to mention anything that had happened at the start when DP had been super wishy washy and entered by pointing to this post. It WAS weird. Your story is irrelevant too, I do not care. DP is being too know it all this game to be town. He is scum. Get on my wagon. | ||
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On March 19 2014 09:49 Palmar wrote: The only game I remember HF's play well in is survivor thingee, he was scum and basically lurked and wrote big statement posts. because that's the only game I've played with you in | ||
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On March 19 2014 09:56 Coagulation wrote: Its not even like im actually relying on the town seal to prove im town when im the most active and vocal person in thread on top of the seal then anyone whos gonna policy lynch over a seal is cherry picking. Can you elaborate on your top voted people for me please? | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:02 DarthPunk wrote: People make bad meta cases all the time as both alignments. It does not make someone guaranteed scum. So why does making a bad meta case make someone scum HF? If that was the case then you should be 100% scum. But you are not because people make bad meta cases all the time as either alignment. i cannot believe you actually believe what you write because that is flat out fucking retarded. It's different if the meta case is based off of games you weren't in but HE WAS ACTIVELY READING THEM | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:05 DarthPunk wrote: We must be playing on different sites because I have seen townies make awful meta cases time and time again. there is awful and then there is downright lying, HE REFERENCED THE FUCKING TOWN GAME WHERE I DID THE SAME THING IN THE SAME POST "scooby doo" is the fucking game i'm talking about and he used it in the post after he accused me it's like trying to talk to a 3 year old or something that just doesn't get it | ||
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How can you possibly disagree. He modded the scum game (culture) he is referencing He read the scooby doo game where I did the same thing but was town as he mentioned "scooby doo" He enters the thread and the only thing he does is to say I'm scum because of culture, despite directly referencing the game I did the same thing as town in You say you disagree and provide 0 reasoning for it other than "meh maybe it's a bad case", that does not correlate at all, stop being bad and question hopeless. I don't care about rayn, he rage quit and he's dumb as shit for doing it, he pushed a mediocre case out of nothing and then left because of someone posting their seal. He did the same thing in culture (- the pushing) about mocsta and was town. He's useless. I don't know about alignment. | ||
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In really small mafia: Hist filter despite the amount of stuff I was saying and pushing and the amount of crap that was going on, he was really hesitant to put down votes without questioning people (in really small mafia) in this game he has pretty much done nothing, agreed with part of my post on DP and then voted me despite agreeing with me...? Without asking any questions at all. Completely different play. | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:29 DarthPunk wrote: Eh I'm not seeing that either considering GT posted like 5 one liners of crap in the first 5 hours and this game has been going for less. Is Giggletummy new or a smurf or what? ##summon: KUSH you are being intolerable -.- read his filter jesus mocsta was OBVIOUS OBVIOUS scum but even then when I made case after case on him he made posts like: On January 11 2014 10:44 Giggletummy wrote: Mocsta has played enough town games that I'd like to look through more than just the one, but noted. Second point I don't care about, because following up on a suspicion or pointing out broken promises often a townie thing to do, shows he's staying with his read, knows what Derrida has been saying, and is trying to get more out of Derrida. Voice mafia stuff or IML stuff I can't comment on. pointed out things he disliked, things he didn't agree with and things he agreed with and then made tells from that and eventually mocsta got lynched but it took a really really really long time! Here? He's posted that he LIKED a part of my post, didn't comment or elaborate on the rest and then VOTED me. How does that correlate at all? | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:30 Coagulation wrote: No darthpunk. He doesnt need to say anything. the situation has already presented itself. He made up a "damned if you do damned if you dont" situation that had zero correct response for me. Do you not see that? can someone else acknowledge what im seeing? yes but that doesn't make him scum because he's done that as town in even more retarded situations | ||
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It's REGARDLESS of the point of the game. It's the content that is happening in the game at the time. There was a lot to talk about, contribute to and question in this game. In that game I was trolling with scooby doo paint pictures hence the one liner trolling atmosphere. I know the content in this game I know the content of that game. I can correlate both of them. | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:39 Hopeless1der wrote: for the sake of transparency, I did not read the game holy is talking about. I know that he "caught" his scumbuddy off of "scooby doo" and completely fooled rayn and the rest of town in cultured. In that game it was both true and a moderately reliable tell that he used. This game he did not have that in his push on either DP or me. because i've made like 1 post with paint in it? | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:45 Hopeless1der wrote: you called DP scum for pregame banter and outright bullshit and then me scum because I called you out for it...what does paint pictures have to do with it? you were just talking about using the scooby doo tell to catch you and dp but the scooby doo tell is about using paint pictures? o.o you have also not called me out for his pre-game stuff, where is that and why does it not apply to DP's game so far? | ||
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On March 19 2014 11:13 Hopeless1der wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2014 10:26 suki wrote: Someone tell me what HolyFlare is doing. In the meantime: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1qmRs4h.png) so you are saying this was the post you "scoobydoo'd" suki with in culture? I dont know what scooby doo means, i inferred that it simply meant caught a scummer. At any rate, all this results in is that Really Small (i think, whatever game you caught GGTemplar in referred to below) and Cultured both show you using this "method". There was a reason for it, and afaik it came down to My initial comments were that your case on DP hinged on him /outing due to hydras then policying hydras (i.e. bullshit pregame stuff). Its stupid and terrible and by no means should anyone have considered it a scumtell. It is absolutely a scum tell but that isn't even half of what makes dp scum and by extension your townish read of dp makes you scum. DP has NOTHING of value. You chimed in randomly in the day when i asked what dp was doing asking everyone about my posts. You said it was good contribution. Where has that contribution led dp? Nowhere. After I've asked dp why he felt vindicated about coag he says it's not because he's right on them being scum it's because he kbew they'd shit up the thread. So, he dropped scum hunting to perpetuate rayns easy coag target but failed. Where is he now? Oh yeh, 0 scum hunting, 0 conclusions. He's dropped majority of previous questioning and doesn't know what to do. Instead he asks people about their reads and says if lurkers don't post then they are scum. Major contributions. Major town points. You are now failing to elaborate on reasoning for your reads when asked to. Especially on your very questiinable reads. That is a major red flag and i find it hard to believe that you wouldn't elaborate on them as town. | ||
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On March 19 2014 13:25 DarthPunk wrote: Eh, i'm not in love with Hopeless after all. I still don't think he is scum but I don't have a big enough town read on him to fight you both for his lynch. I would rather lynch this poofter guy though. That dude is legit scum. It lines up with how a video mafia player posts. | ||
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On March 19 2014 13:31 DarthPunk wrote: What has that got to do with anything? Is this video mafia we are playing holyflare? Go away if you don't get it. | ||
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On March 19 2014 13:34 DarthPunk wrote: Just tell me because inside jokes are pointless if they are game relevant. Also yeah I changed my read on hopeless after re-reading rayns case. Sue me. Rayn has no case other than my case and what thrawn said, what the actual shit man.... | ||
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Also banks, you said you liked me reading between the lines. Can you elaborate on that? | ||
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On March 19 2014 13:44 Tehpoofter wrote: Hes 1000% wrong on me but idk if that means he is mafia. Is he typically this strong out on people as mafia? No. He is inquisitive, asks questions that lead to conclusions and pushes people. He has 7 pages of filter and has done none of that. He's now flipping his reads and only just started asking questions to you after he called you 100% scum and he is sure of it. | ||
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Also thrawn, for now, ok. Giggletummy posts are supee bad and my meta of him was very good, what do you guys think of that? | ||
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On March 19 2014 14:49 Vivax wrote: Another thing I forgot to mention is that HF didn't go uscumbro on Palmar like he did on hopeless. The post where he said that he liked DP's post looked pretty bad to me until he explained that he didn't see the observation about rayn as alignment indicative yet thought it would come from a townie. The initial posts on dp were jokes. Then he started posting weird shit so i switched to serious mode. Hopeless was because he called me scum because of the scooby doo thing and then contextless reads on people. | ||
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On March 19 2014 14:49 Vivax wrote: Another thing I forgot to mention is that HF didn't go uscumbro on Palmar like he did on hopeless. The post where he said that he liked DP's post looked pretty bad to me until he explained that he didn't see the observation about rayn as alignment indicative yet thought it would come from a townie. To add to my other post. The first hopeless post was a joke too (i referenced phoenix wright lol) but then he started being serious with odd cherry picked meta | ||
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just asked me about dp vote and voted me! | ||
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On March 19 2014 21:36 Koshi wrote: Vivax is not town. Ah well, you will see the light later. What game is this? Culture, he posted like 10 hours later about gumshoe's first post and nothing else about gumshoe who was his scum read. It was really odd and i tried to mislynch him for it but he was blue. | ||
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Dp: this is classic anti rayn banana Holy: wtf no it isn't this is any rayn banana thats really bad meta dp and you've played enough with rayn to know that so why phrase it like that if only to cast suspicion? Palmar: i like that dp post about bananas even if it says somethint wrong about a banana dp should know about | ||
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I think both dp and hf are town but I can't get over this nagging doubt that one of them is full of crap. yet dp isn't featured and i am | ||
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Only scenario is that you know coag will post his seal under pressure so look good for defending him. Other than that, nothing. That's why i say you're pretty town disregarding that. Talk about thrawn please | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: well koshi had the same stance as me? Now this is the point and this is a perfectly valid stance. Calling him town is not a valid stance at that time. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:10 Palmar wrote: How about you explain exactly what your issue is? Your read is an associative read because he didn't include DP in the mix of his lynch targets. Should we lynch thrawn for it? I want to discuss him and it's nothing to do with association it's reads that don't add up with motives: Says me and dp are town but wary that one of us is full of crap - gives himself a scum on one clause Says i could be scum because of fluff related to dp but ignores everything else Says dp could be scum because of x, y, z, a, b, c but the doesn't poe dp after saying all the things I've pointed out about dp. Either he agrees with me in which case i shouldn't be poe'd because he's sheeping me or he disagrees with me and i shouldn't be poe'd because he said I'm probably town It's a fault of mindset | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:49 Hopeless1der wrote: basically i didn't want you trolling like what you pulled in cultured so I got on your case as soon as I saw you doing ridiculous things. The Phoenix Wright stuff looked like pregame-plan, or you draw really well really fast. Based on the adventures of kiterayn, I don't think you can draw that well on demand. Your case on DP is based on his pre-game assertion that he dislikes hydras and was at one point willing to /out because of it. You used a mindset that can't be assigned to an alignment and when DP was consistent with it, tried to spin it to make him look scummy in-game because it allowed him to push scum-agenda. This is after you call your read But I'm the bad guy for taking you even remotely seriously. I drew it all in real time :O and yes my case on dp with the hydra thing was a bs joke too, it was his reaction to it that made me serious. You think I'm so bad as to use something that someone says they will do as any alignment as a legitimate case? | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:32 Koshi wrote: rayn, don't you think Hopeless is too active to be scum? I don't think he's active at all? What has he done this game? The only content in his filter is about why he pushed his scum read on me and that was 1 hour into the game and it's still pretty much the only thing he is talking about. The rest of his reads are all mostly unqualified "he must be town because statistically aren't most people"? Then... who is scum because statistically someone else has to be too? | ||
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I get the quoting the big post rayn made with his reads but if anything that would be something I'd point out pretty much straight away rather than after my meta explanation of rayn, especially as in foundation rayn wasn't in a qt with his scum team so he was demotivated from the start. Koshi read is meh but I guess it's alright because I feel similar, just not put any effort in explaining it like he did to overjustify rayn? poofter read is really odd because his posts aren't alignment indicative for a new player and that guy has experience of video mafia so to give a top 3 town read on him is strange compared to other people that were in the thread at the time, he says me and dp are towny but poofter weighs in above all of us with almost 0 content? | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:42 Palmar wrote: If you could just go ahead and confirm your alignment HF that would clear up this game a whole lot. you should be able to tell this is completely different from survivor, i'm more "talky" | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is going to be fucking hard because i don't have any townreads except for Holyflare and Oats. plan of all vt's claiming is looking better and better! why not town read palmar? | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:55 Palmar wrote: I know, and I've said it is. It's like contemplating hugging someone who has recovered from black death and then he coughs once. A cough doesn't say much but maaaaannn why can't he just be completely healthy. well what's holding you back? if it's all the snarky comments at dp and the tunnel it's because i think dp is scum and it's also fun to troll dp so i intertwined both | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote: Said it earlier, your initial stance on hopeless was strange. You're tunneling the guy who has like 50 pages of filter on day 1, and you had some really weird point about video mafia player playing a certain way. You also kept calling me out for that thing based on me agreeing with you. Idk I'm really just contemplating taking a flyer on rayn's townread on you for now. well it was straightforward for hopeless: I made a joke post against dp and then another one about the coag hydra and him being scum because of it but used "definitive language", hopeless jumped on it and called me scum because I did stuff like this in culture mini mafia, he referenced the term "scooby doo" which I used in really small mafia where I did the same thing but was town. It looked like he was cherry picking meta to paint me in a scummy light for people that did not know about those games and was very scummy until he explained his logic, he still hasn't backed off of me and is still defending stuff about that which happened in the first like 2 hours of the game instead of commenting about anything else in the game dp's post count is irrelevant, it was his posting style that led me onto him but i'm backing off of him for a bit because people don't like me talking about it i already explained about the agreeing thing because you're misreading it x_x On March 19 2014 21:51 Holyflare wrote: No it was more: Dp: this is classic anti rayn banana Holy: wtf no it isn't this is any rayn banana thats really bad meta dp and you've played enough with rayn to know that so why phrase it like that if only to cast suspicion? Palmar: i like that dp post about bananas even if it says somethint wrong about a banana dp should know about it's nothing to do with rayn and all about dp | ||
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On March 19 2014 09:55 Holyflare wrote: Also giggletummy, you agree with part of my post and then vote me? What are you doing? On March 19 2014 10:25 Holyflare wrote: Giggletummy most probably: In really small mafia: Hist filter despite the amount of stuff I was saying and pushing and the amount of crap that was going on, he was really hesitant to put down votes without questioning people (in really small mafia) in this game he has pretty much done nothing, agreed with part of my post on DP and then voted me despite agreeing with me...? Without asking any questions at all. Completely different play. for these reasons | ||
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On March 20 2014 00:43 Giggletummy wrote: Nuh uh. Earlier was the time to say "those were troll posts." I'm also not buying that you start the game trolling, choose two people to troll, and they both just so happen to be mafia and you're gonna tunnel tunnel tunnel. um no it really wasn't? You think I make a legitimate case on someone that says "if im scum i'll kill coag" "if i'm town i'll kill coag" without trolling for reactions? You think I don't know that telling someone to sheep me because I bus/or am right is trolling? You can quite clearly see in my posts that I jump to serious as soon as he mentions scooby doo | ||
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On March 20 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote: He mentioned scoopy doo before you made the "sheep me cause I bus or right" post. yes but I didn't read into it until he mentioned it as a reason for calling me scum based on the game that didn't include scooby doo On March 19 2014 07:08 Holyflare wrote: How does that apply here at all? In that regard I am thus bussing DP because that's what I do in my scum games. Therefore the case is in fact not horrible and you should sheep it. If I am town, I am generally correct and thus in fact you should sheep it. Either way, painting me in a negative light based on 1 game (whereas dp has stated anti policy things in numerous games, check the DB and past game filters) but still does it here. Furthermore, his overdefensive nature was seen very heavily in vengeful where he went full blow retard overreaction. This game is a much toned down version of that but still defensive because he doesn't like being critiqued. It is easy to find scum DP and I have done it. Follow me. Oh scummy number 2. | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:00 Palmar wrote: God I hate talking about all these games I have no clue about. If I understand you correctly, the point still stands, the "sheep cause right/bus" is after he mentioned that game and thus you had already gone serious mode when you posted that, and thus you can't claim it's a joke. you think someone says sheep me because i'm bussing or right as a legitimate "case"? because that's what giggletummy is saying i'm doing | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:06 Palmar wrote: There's a difference between a case and a post. I think you meant it what you said. I did mean it but in a trolling way because he scum read me off of one game and if he was going to make ridiculous assumptions based on one game where I bussed my team mates then he should be following that ridiculous line of logic. | ||
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So how do those 2 things add up together? Either you wanted me to scooby doo on DP because it works and isn't useless but i didn't do that so you thought I was scum or you think in culture I posted useless things and therefore am scum because I was doing that here too? How can you try and determine my alignment from something that you only referenced me doing as scum that was based off of a town game? | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:11 Giggletummy wrote: You're wrong on the turning point of why I think you're mafia. The early trolling can be a townie trying to draw reactions and get reads or it can be someone just trying to appear like they're contributing and doing that. It's the followup that matters, and figuring out which you were doing. well i'm not because the entirety of your point on me on hopeless is about the poop soup "case" on him about bussing? when in fact the real case was that he mentioned a game where I did something as town but only used the game where I did it as scum as a reason for calling me scum you have also failed to answer my questions, why is your gameplay so much more different here than it is in really small mafia? you had to ask so many questions and be pushed so much to vote or be convinced on someone that was very scummy and even then you were asking them questions. Right off the bat here you are making accusations and putting down votes without doing any of the inquisitive things you were doing in really small mafia | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:46 Giggletummy wrote: there are a bunch of people who go "that post must have come from kush" or kush saying "yes this is me." If you point out 20 posts where coag says "i am a ton of people and you don't know us" before my comments on you and coag, be my guest. talking about futile conversations, goes on to talk about even more futile conversations! who do you actually think is mafia? if you disregard me because I am actually town and other people actually see that, what does that leave you with? | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it's the read on me which is so bad it can't come from a townie. he hasn't said he had a read on you at all, in fact he didn't even call you scummy for misrepresenting him like you did. He said we should stop clogging up the thread with the scooby doo stuff but then started all this coag stuff which has 0 relevance as he hasn't called you scum at all | ||
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On March 20 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have not misrepresented anything. I called him mafia for making up a bullshit read ("rayn looks bad") on me based on absolutely nothing and without referencing any evidence why i actually look bad. He took a stance that makes no sense from town perspective, the only explanation i can think of is that he knew Coag is town (because he did not even look/reference the argument at all). I'm quoting what he was saying Stop misrepresenting crap and stop believing that people can only be thinking one or two things. yeah, i'm absolutely saying you looked bad for just arguing and arguing with coag. it didn't go anywhere, it didn't help the thread, and it just spammed useless pages. just like all this scooby doo stuff. He doesn't call you scummy or anything, just that you look bad. He doesn't even mention his earlier thought processes of me and dp just about this which had already happened at the time he was around anyway | ||
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followup is in Flare case. if flare's response was like that, "my read on DP is that he did this thing, got a scummy point, he's scum, who cares what he's done since," then I would have found it townie. it would show that his bad reasoning early on was likely fishing for reactions because the reaction really mattered to him. here's the problem you didn't ask me anything to do with that at all and I DO follow up with reasoning on why he is scum! | ||
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On March 20 2014 02:19 thrawn2112 wrote: can you find a non-rayn read in djo's filter? i can't. can you find a non-me read that wasn't useless in hopeless' filter? can you find any reads other than me in giggletummys filter? can you read oats' alignment from such little amount of posting? | ||
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On March 20 2014 02:46 thrawn2112 wrote: yes as in, yes I saw it. something you want to talk about? why you mentioned about 5 things that made dp mafia but then decided to not put him on your poe list? | ||
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On March 20 2014 02:58 thrawn2112 wrote: I have no clue. I will say that all those reasons I mentioned could have easily happened as a direct result of you tunneling him. like, dp's non-read on you could be because of the exact same reasons I was having trouble reading you. you were being a huge asshole during that tunnel and it just didn't feel genuine, it felt like you were edging him on to try and force him into looking scummier. so maybe that's why I included you but ommitted dp, but honestly i do not remember. poe lists tend to be snap decisions for me All the points you used to question dp's alignment were points that I had alread stated and posted, so in fact, you were using my arguments on why dp is scum to question your town read on dp because he looked scummy based on the reasons i was pointing out and he was getting frustrated at in the first place. So for you to poe me in the list means that you did not read our interactions at all? | ||
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On February 27 2014 02:53 Vivax wrote: Jeez why couldn't I roll scum in this game. You guys are all so busy with fighting each other in such an unproductive way, and nobody called me out for not doing anything since I posted those points on gumshoe Oh well back to lurking. From culture mini. Inactivity wasn't called up on but his response was jokeish etc. Here is not the same at all, it's really hyper defensive. | ||
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On March 20 2014 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE forget about Palmar, explain this GT stuff to me like i am 5yr. How can you not get it? Giggle says im scum based off of x, y, z We start to talk about why I'm scummy to him He says let's stop talking about my scum read it's unproductive Then he moves onto you on an equally unproductive topic to say nothing about your alignment | ||
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On March 20 2014 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i62.tinypic.com/2dqrlti.png) This picture is you explaining it to yourself lol??? Giggles case cancels itself out when he says the useful stuff that's being talked about is useless | ||
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Yes it is On March 20 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean to put it another way, the Scooby Doo nonsense has led him to his best (and only?) scumread of the game - so how can he possibly believe that it's not productive? | ||
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On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote: Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened? isn't he referencing the part where I point out palmar and dp? | ||
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giggletummy - it doesn't matter WHEN he posted his reasoning, it is all stuff that you have been saying that I was doing all game. YOU AGREE WITH HIS FUCKING CASE AND VOTE HIM OVER TEHPOOFTER WHO YOU MADE A GIANT CASE ON STRAIGHT AWAY CALLING HIM 100% SCUM | ||
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On March 20 2014 14:15 Vivax wrote: You mean you nitpicked a part of my case that you felt was easy to discredit? Do I have to assume that you found the other points good since you didn't comment on them? Ie him saying he didn't read GT cause he promised reasoning, not wondering why he would post so little in a range of roughly 1 h? Ie him agreeing with your case, then telling his scumread(?) to back off from him, then asking you if you think that a specific bit would come from a scum DP? I responded to your last post, how is that nitpicking? "he said in the first 3 hours of the game" was your only point in that post that i responded to, why are you so angry that i'm not paying attention to what you've written yet? | ||
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On March 20 2014 14:26 Vivax wrote: I made a case with multiple points in it, you responded to one point of it. That is nitpicking. Consider all the information or don't write about it. Besides Poofter can perfectly answer to it by himself, hence I see no reason to defend him as town unless you have a point that proves he's town, which neither you nor thrawn brought up after I requested it. If you aren't sure about his alignment then you have no reason to defend him cause you need him to talk to figure it out. Moral of the story: Don't take away pressure from my scumread unless you have a damn good reason to, which you don't seem to have. Scum-or-dumb-points to both of you. you are dumb, if when nitpicked over individual points some of them don't have to come from a scum mindset but can come from a town mindset then your case contains fundamentally flawed logic because you are adding null points to bolster a case on someone that shouldn't exist in your case in the first place | ||
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On March 20 2014 14:36 Vivax wrote: What Poofter did in regards to reacting to DP, townreading you and giving giggletummy a free pass after posting all that fluff are points that do not rely on each other. Even making one invalid, the other still stand. That guy is scum and you are bad and should feel bad for not having your vote on him. Reading your filter I also noticed you tried to paint me as scummy for the way I replied to Koshi based on shitty meta. What was the point of all that since apparently you aren't pushing me as your scumread? I pointed out that it was odd giving that you had a totally different reaction to the same principal in the game we just played. I haven't read poofter and don't intend to till i've done this dp thing, is that a problem? I don't think it is because even if he is scum I need to find the others too. | ||
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On March 20 2014 15:35 DarthPunk wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XKHvMrs.png) He lied. He tried to cover it up. He changed his story. He is scum. This is apparently the same reasoning you have on me lol but i know I'm town so why can't he be? | ||
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On March 20 2014 15:43 Tehpoofter wrote: @HF Do you know vivax and DP play? Is tunneling this poorly on a town indicative of either's alignment? Like I read DP as town from his filter even though hes wrong. Vivax in my opinion could have jumped on the Rayn thing if he was mafia I basically set him up for early but maybe it was super obvious idk. So I actually read them both as town but to me their case is like way too much harping on a little bit of phrasing so just want to see what you think about if this is alignment indicative of either of them. Dp is scum and if you read his filter you'd know it. He even just tried to give you an out "if you are town prove it" despite previously calling you 100% scum, a liar that is scum etc etc. Vivax.. Idk he's asking for your reads so meh | ||
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Originally I stated that DP is inquisitive, questioning things etc etc as town. This is completely true. Read his filters PLEASE I urge you to. Don't just sit idly by and let him get further on in this game. This behaviour was not shown AT ALL in the start of the game and ONLY changed when I pointed out that he was not doing it. His stances were incredibly wishy washy on everything he was saying and were only there to spread doubt on players. Compare this to his normal game where he asks questions, pushes people for answers, makes conclusions. You see posts that backtrack themselves one after the other: On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did. Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it. I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. 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Perhaps Rayn is scum. Perhaps he is just busy. Find out next time in: 'Nothing much is happening Mafia' which he got heavily called out on and then later admitted it was a "joke" but palmar was weird for picking up on it (never questioned again), this post can ONLY be used to spread doubt, rayn does that as both alignments and DP KNOWS this but still says it's anti-rayn? The second half I can see as a joke, the first bit he is trying to spread lies and slander intentionally. Either way, joke or not, he TRIES to fit in the game by asking questions now: Also what do you think about holyflare's hopeless push? On March 19 2014 07:36 DarthPunk wrote: This is a good post. If a ten headed hydra IMPROVES coags usual play I will fucking die. LMAO. SO yeah the post is in fact not good because of said dissonance. he liked the post, was told to reread, copied what people were saying "dissonance between first and second" (hint: there wasn't any) and then started getting all trolly as shit to coag: On March 19 2014 08:20 DarthPunk wrote: That is kind of funny because you hopped onto my wagon as soon as the game started. But now it is you that is under pressure it is too early to read alignments? On March 19 2014 08:22 DarthPunk wrote: Basically my vote doesn't look so bad now when there are like 5 people posting from one account at the same time does it. #Vindicated (there was only 1) On March 19 2014 08:28 DarthPunk wrote: (disregards everything koshi says to paint coag in a better light)Seems shit to me. And I feel vindicated. Don't go walking in my sunshine Koshi. On March 19 2014 09:23 DarthPunk wrote: There is no way it is only coag posting. Basically having played many games with coag my expert meta analysis says that coag rarely cares or rages this much, and since when does he say bro? OMGUS hydra going strong. Destroy it. On March 19 2014 08:32 DarthPunk wrote: That would be a good point, but then they are a 5-10 head hydra so contradiction can be explained away for that reason. Which is why we should just policy lynch him/ vig him and be done with it. READ THIS ABOVE ALL ELSE BECAUSE WTF THIS IS THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN After everything DP berates me for - my troll post on coag policy. His overdefensiveness to justify the troll post policy, the fact that he "doesn't care if a hydra is pro town or scum" and doesn't care about their alignment or anything because it's a policy: On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did. Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it. I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. he does this: On March 19 2014 09:45 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote Coag is basically confirmed town. Like wtf shit? NO SHIT COAG WOULD POST HIS SEAL AS TOWN. The whole point of the original policy, everything about the joke post DP calls me scum for. It all points to the fact that DP wants to policy a coag hydra above all else, coag would of course post his seal as town, it's coag ffs. So why when he does that does DP COMPLETELY CHANGE EVERY PREVIOUS POLICY IF HE MEANT IT THIS GAME JESUS CHRIST. There is also a disconnect in his train of thought completely. Remember earlier in the game where I questioned koshi about his defensiveness on coag? Yeh, DP sheeped it and called it his own and asked him questions about how he didn't think coag was defensive compared to him, it looked odd for koshi to point it out but in the end, nothing came out of that and people started calling koshi town so this followed: On March 19 2014 08:09 DarthPunk wrote: It feels like Rayn is the Sheriff and Koshi is the Deputy. In DP's viewpoint koshi was defending someone heavily based on points that weren't true and the guy ended up being town so DP should be more suspicious but then suddenly everything falls away and koshi is deputy to rayn! Next logical fallacy that happens is tehpoofter situation. Remember (i'm going to keep drumming this into you) that DP is inquisitive, he asks questions and pushes to make conclusions. Yeh, what happened around tehpoofter situation? Tehpoofter is new and makes a post that looks fairly bad. Rather than push or question DP MAKES A FULL BLOWN FUCKING CASE: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=43#855 out of like 2 posts, it's scummy because a) he hasn't asked tehpoofter any questions, b) the guy is new to forum mafia and came from video where reads like list posts are standard. DP in fact, ONLY QUESTIONS TEHPOOFTER AFTER HE SAID THIS GUY IS 100% SCUM. Why would you make a case with such a giant wall of text and call someone 100% scum and THEN question them and not the other way around???? Not to mention, DP carries many logical inconsistencies between players: On March 19 2014 12:49 Holyflare wrote: How can you call this guy with 100 posts on the forum scum when hopeless made even more useless reads and fails to even clarify them and hopeless plays a shit tonne of forum mafia. The same with giggletummy. There is no asking him to elaborate there is no questioning. Just a case and bam he's scum. DP you have fallen very far. On March 19 2014 12:53 Holyflare wrote: What makes this guy scum over everyone else that has done the same thing? Why do you pick and choose when to use the 'bad towns use bad meta' for hopeless but not the 'bad towns make wishy washy lists' for him? On March 19 2014 12:52 Holyflare wrote: Why ignore the entirety of what i wrote and just pick out the bit about you? Why is he scum when he is brand new to forum mafia over hopeless who did the same thing but is not new? Why not giggletummy who put a vote down while agreeing with the person he is voting? His responses were "I don't care what hopeless does this guys is mafia". IT GETS MORE WEIRD THAN THIS So he still thinks tehpoofter is scum, his responses don't add up to him that's cool and all but then his top scum suspects are tehpoofter and giggletummy till giggle responds which he DID do. DP NEVER COMMENTS ON GIGGLES POST AT ALL EVER IN ANY CONTEXT WHATSOEVER THIS IS THE ONLY THING HE SAYS: On March 20 2014 09:04 DarthPunk wrote: Is giggletummy even around? if he fucked off we should lynch him. On March 20 2014 09:04 DarthPunk wrote: Is giggletummy even around? if he fucked off we should lynch him. On March 20 2014 09:04 DarthPunk wrote: Is giggletummy even around? if he fucked off we should lynch him. Giggletummy posted his case on me, it was ALL THE POINTS DP WAS SAYING I WAS SCUM FOR AND THEN HE VOTES GIGGLETUMMY when he should be agreeing with him on those points because they are the same logic that DP is using. HE VOTES GIGGLE OVER TEHPOOFTER WHO HE SAID WAS 100% SCUM. He also says that he won't vote djo, despite finding his posts bad, despite looking like his wishy washy posts from another game over giggle who he should be agreeing with based on the case he made. How is anyone following what DP says as towny? Then there is all this which I wrote before I started writing the rest On March 20 2014 08:09 DarthPunk wrote: I think your narrative is a load of shit Holyflare. At first you were adamant only the first 'case' against me was a joke. Now you are saying both cases against me were jokes. But that is a fucking lie. And you haven't stopped tunnelling me since. Now after that you start going on about me being overdefensive or whatever and not playing like the ONE! other town game you have played in. BUt in that game I was not full tunnelled from the beginning of the game onwards. The second case which you say was a joke was preceded with 'dp is legitimately scum' So I call massive bullshit on you holy flare. First and foremost, this is an incredible crock of shit. At no point have I 'changed' my storyline or anything like DP mentions. There is no evidence of that, he hasn't linked it at all and it just didn't happen. This was also funny considering in vengeful I did the exact same thing: The meta evidence is incredibly overwhelming, look at the super similarities between each opening post and this one here! Conclusive evidence that DP is in fact playing to his scum meta. He had trouble seeing this was from scum holyflare originally because it happened in vengeful yet suddenly I must be scum and full of shit for posting a REAL CASE BASED ON SOMETHING HE SAID HE'D DO AS EITHER ALIGNMENT. It's hilarious that people listened to this because it quite clearly was a joke. Here + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2014 19:12 DarthPunk wrote: Thrawn I'll tell you what I think of HF, He is a massive douche bag and is making me regret joining this game. I WOULD love to call him scum for it but he JUST did the EXACT same thing to me in our previous game to the point that I rage quit the thread. So he is probably town. The thing is that he has done this when I am scum and now that I am town he is also doing it., so I am really fucking frustrated that Holyflare decides to be a massive prick and tunnel me from the first hour of the game onwards. Like in last game he LITERALLY did the exact same thing. Made a 'joke' case that was trash that all of a sudden turned into a 'real' case because of nothing at all. So yeah. I am really pissed off and don't want to deal with him and the sad thing is this is probably his town play so I can't even lynch him for it and have to put up with this bullshit until I die. Effectively ruining any chance I had at having fun in this game. I want to know what VE is doing considering he was supposed to be catching up with the thread. Like in last game he LITERALLY did the exact same thing. Made a 'joke' case that was trash that all of a sudden turned into a 'real' case because of nothing at all. On March 20 2014 08:59 DarthPunk wrote: He is a liar and I'm not sold on his townieness like everyone else seems to be. He was a dick to me KNOWING it was going to shit up the thread and make me useless.(something he said i was town for earlier) His story keeps changing and he lies when it is convenient for him to do so. He thought thrawn was scum after he posted the towniest townie town post. Yeah. Holyflare could easily be scum IMO. I know no one will agree with me. But he is a liar about the cases he made. He calls them serious when it suits him and jokes when it suits him and his tunnel on me and being an arsehat in generaly was anti town and created a horrible atmosphere. (already proven to be a joke, he admitted it was a joke, suddenly backtracks on everything says i'm lying about it being a joke and now i'm scum despite him calling me town) Next, his stance on hopeless: On March 20 2014 08:31 DarthPunk wrote: It's been explained to him, it has been baby'd down 1000x times for him, he never listened UNTIL rayn said something and at that point he did a COMPLETE 180 on hopeless:No it's the hopeless/Cultured/scooby do bullshit that is hard to understand unless you played in those games. before rayn said something despite me talking about hopeless 24/7 On March 19 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote: Maybe my viewpoint is clouded by being pissed off at holyflare but I really don't think we should lynch hopeless today. after rayn said something (which was pretty much ctrl+c of what i said) On March 19 2014 13:25 DarthPunk wrote: Eh, i'm not in love with Hopeless after all. I still don't think he is scum but I don't have a big enough town read on him to fight you both for his lynch. I would rather lynch this poofter guy though. That dude is legit scum. He makes no effort to read into one of the top scum candidates for the day. Many people talked about him, many questioned him yet DP has nothing to say other than he liked hopeless' case on me (which didn't exist either) and won't bring up the subject again. He takes no stance on someone that is genuinely scummy, mentions nothing else about him and wants to lynch into poofter/djo without considering hopeless but then votes giggle. | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did. Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it. I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. Hey guess when that was. Oh yeh after the hydra joke. Guess what you said about it "you did the same thing in vengeful" Hey look who is the liar now, it's you! Scum numver 1 re-caught! | ||
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in vengeful I did the exact same thing: The meta evidence is incredibly overwhelming, look at the super similarities between each opening post and this one here! Conclusive evidence that DP is in fact playing to his scum meta. Ty for not reading again! | ||
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On March 20 2014 18:46 Djodref wrote: @Holyflare I don't think DP is going to get lynched today, and I would certainly not vote him at the moment. I'm surprised you didn't really mention me yet as I have him as town right now (and also because I'm a real potential lynch for today). Do you really expect people to lynch DP today ? If yes, please tell me who do you expect to join your wagon, because I certainly I'm not. Also I want you to give your views about the most likely lynch targets for today, i.e. GT, poof and me. I do not care whether he is getting lynched today or not I'm pointing out the obvious crappy wool he is pulling over your eyes. It is easy to look like a towny when you know alignments. Say, if you're town and everyone else reads someone as scummy it's easy to say "but wait these things come from towny aha"! Even worse still he doesn't directly say that he thinks you are towny which gives him an out to talk about you as scum later. GT looked towny for his case but the things he said around it "stop" this useless talk when we were getting into detail about his read on me and his talk about rayn are scummy as hell, coupled with what i said avout him earlier he looks quite likely to be mafia Poof was initially newbie video mafia read, now he's looking more scummy, especially after disagreeing about the read on dp and calling it meh but not stating why, he even pointed out a part he didn't like for not making sense but was correct which is very odd. Not read you tbh will do it at a computer later | ||
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On March 20 2014 18:48 Tehpoofter wrote: He questioned me before the case.... that was what I was getting at. I think you're wrong on him being mafia. Sorry I was trying to quote it but its super long. Basically I feel like hes trying to figure out the game he is pushing in weird directions but I think pushing hard is more town than mafia. If hes mafia hes sticking his neck out REALLY far on the wrong people that are going to flip town.... would suck to get caught like that on day 1. Day 1 scum IMO are people not pushing super hard. Cases like yours HF I think are better suited for day 2-3. Well this is an outright lie Case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=43#855 Dp filter where it happens: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?user=DarthPunk&page=6 0 questions before case | ||
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On March 20 2014 19:53 thrawn2112 wrote: is giggletummy a smurf? is really small mafia is onyl previous game? I think he was a smurf? Either way this game he was totally different to his play in really small. The thing i find odd is that if he's so busy why can't he say things like "oh sorry guys getting called away can't reply" that takes 2 seconds. Instead it's when people start to question him further or push him for reads that he totally disappears | ||
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On March 20 2014 19:47 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah Im down with a Giggles lynch. I'm ill and going to bed so I may not be back before deadline although I will try to be. For now giggles seems like the best option. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QCI9Jlf.png) I'll give you guys 30 minutes before I go in case you need anything. This is hilarious by the way | ||
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On March 20 2014 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Me/thrawn I think and alak/gt. Holyflare, how does scum DP produce 10 pages of filter day 1? It's not hard to write pages as scum and dp isn't bad | ||
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Dp did not want to vote giggle until he heard his case on me despite me saying giggle was so scunmy. Giggle posts case DP SAYS NOTHING ABOUT IT EVER DESPITE GIGGLES CASE BEING THE EXACT POINTS DP RAISES ABOUT ME and then out of the blue dp starts pushing giggle based off sheeping the idea that he isn't around cz it's a pet peeve and scum tell rather than the guy he thinks is 100% scum (poofter) who he made a case on without questioning and djo who he thinks is scum but in every post hints that he is town | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well then the part about GT is a lie, because then his comment "GT has posted good stuff since then" does not hold water. His case on Hopeless literally starts from the point where GT stops posting, so one or another thing MUST be a lie. Well then let me restate, what benefit does scum have about lying avout page numbers because you know full well cora did the same thing in titanic 2 and he was town | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:08 Holyflare wrote: He has thepoofter as scum for being a confirmed liar to him and that was a 100% scum read but he isn't voting him because the afk scum tell that he has on the guy that posted the same logic he used on me was obviously stronger than 100% to then speedy unvote because page numbers didn't match up | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:14 DarthPunk wrote: If rayn was correct which I see no reason to doubt at the time, he slipped. why would I not vote for him lol?| HOW IS IT A SLIP WHEN A TOWN DID THE SAME THING IN TITANIC 2 NOT TO MENTION 60 IS 40 PAGES IN NOT TO MENTION YOU ARE SCUM | ||
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What you don't say and what rayn didn't say is that the reason he could be mafia because of the page number thing is that he picked 2 targets abd used their filters to make cases thus the age numbers do not make sense because he was grasping at straws to make cases. You do not do that. You don't play this game like a towny. | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:26 DarthPunk wrote: I mean that is a good point. But why are you (Vivax) making cases then without reading the whole fucking thread? especially taking shit out of the context that you could not possibly understand, cause you know, he hadn't read that part of the thread. Which is what you did with your unvote before fact checking. Also the fact that what you said makes it even more unlikely for him to be scum because why lie about a page number so why are you voting him straight away? | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare read the convo that starts from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=80#1591 Omg you are such a fuxking tool. Vivax said he called giggle mafia at the point he read up to pg 40. He doesn't say he is at page 40 now... | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: no. Vivax is mafia. stop. it's really clear. You asked him about one of his first posts. He says it was on page 40 that he made that so it wasn't updated. Where does he say anything other than that? | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/u]Why is this so hard? The post you are talking about here is the same post where he calls Hopeless and thrawn mafia. He says at the time he made that post he was ~p40. However, later on, when he makes his cases on thrawn and Hopeless there is [b]not a single thing that has happened on page 1 - page40 and everything in his cases has happened AFTER page 40. So do you think Vivax thought at the time (when he was on page 40) he made the post, that Hopeless and thrawn are mafia when 8 hours later there is nothing in his case from that time? Does it go paste page ~60 because that is also 40 pages in. Abd don't you dare talk to me about getting obvious things after you were being dense with the ve/giggle posts | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:42 Palmar wrote: Do you disagree with DP's point? See here: You mean the thing i had already said about vivax before he posted that? Sure | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know what Vivax is lying about. Is it page numbers or what the fuck ever but the fact is he is lying about something. Then you should be lynching dp for lying and poofter for lying | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/u]IF HE HAS READ UNTIL PAGE 70 (which is where his case on Hopeless stops) HE HAS ALSO READ GT'S POSTS IN WHICH CASE HE WOULD NOT CALL HIM MAFIA IN THE FIRST PLACE. That's all the information i wanted bro. | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Jesus fucking christ Holyflare. Why can't you just read Vivax' posts and not try to argue about something you can yourself find out easily? You spend all this time for calling DP mafia but you can't spend 5 minutes in looking into something people call confirmed liar? What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm on my phone and it's a not very good one so i can't open filters or check multiple pages to confirm whether what you are saying is right or not. Dp is still scum though. | ||
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Dp has thepoofter as 100% scum and makes an entire case on him based on 2 posts and only after the case asks him questions (like suki and toad in culture). When poofter responds dp calls him a liar and thus furthering his view of 100% scum. Why does he unvote 100% scum to sheep you on the guy that made a case on me that followed dp's logic that i am scum? | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:54 DarthPunk wrote: I sheep rayn when I think he is town and think he is right. It happens often. I didn't ask you. | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:55 DarthPunk wrote: Also holy seeing as so much of your read on me is meta based. How do you reconcile the fact I have currently posted more in day one of this game than I did in my entire previous scum game?? If you are saying my meta is wrong then you are implying that you are not inquisitive or questioning as town. | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:00 DarthPunk wrote: Well they should. If you rely on one part of my 'meta' so heavily and ignore the other parts that don't suit your meta read that doesn't really seem like a genuine attempt to get the truth. Rather it reads like you will say whatever supports your assertion and ignore that which does not. On March 20 2014 23:58 Holyflare wrote: If you are saying my meta is wrong then you are implying that you are not inquisitive or questioning as town. Inquisitive/questioning isn't even really a meta, it's a standard lack of information town trait. So really. None of what i have said is based on meta. | ||
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I'm not even really defending him i just don't have the information you all have i just have the link rayn posted so it looked super weird. It's not until he explained giggle had posted since his stuff on thrawn that it made sense and i provided the most logical reason for a scum vivax out of everything because everything else was just "it's a lie" which doesn't define an alignment. To +1 this after you just witnessed me bus my entire team day 1 in culture and you played scum with me in lxiii where i also bussed heavily. You agree with this point? I would heavily implicate myself in a scum lynch like that? You are super scummy with these interjections hopeless | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:10 DarthPunk wrote: So now it is not meta after all. Despite calling it meta many times. TUNNEL OF DOOOOOOOOOM! The only way it's not your meta is if you're saying you don't display the traits of a towny this game. Look I'm just going to concede on pushing dp and write this game off entirely when you lose to him. I won't push him anymore i won't say anything about him at all. Have fun with that end game wifoming. | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would you say you change the vote if you are not sure if you trust me or not? It's not like you say "i'll check this out, if it's right it's good." You just say "i'll check this out myself and then i'll vote for him". lol Cz they mafia together duh ;& D | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:41 DarthPunk wrote: Because it makes no fucking sense for you to tunnel me like that and then stop. So you're saying i should continue tunneling because you aren't town? I don't see the issue here. | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:14 Holyflare wrote: I'm not even really defending him i just don't have the information you all have i just have the link rayn posted so it looked super weird. It's not until he explained giggle had posted since his stuff on thrawn that it made sense and i provided the most logical reason for a scum vivax out of everything because everything else was just "it's a lie" which doesn't define an alignment. To +1 this after you just witnessed me bus my entire team day 1 in culture and you played scum with me in lxiii where i also bussed heavily. You agree with this point? I would heavily implicate myself in a scum lynch like that? You are super scummy with these interjections hopeless | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:50 DarthPunk wrote: No I am saying that if you genuinely thought I was scum enough to tunnel me like that then it makes no fucking sense for you to stop. Even though, personally, it is nice to not have to deal with it. It still makes no fucking sense. Does any of your posting help solve the game here? No it doesn't. It can make any kind of sense you want but it's irrelevant. | ||
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It's weird because this is a titanic game abd exactly the same thing happened in the last titanic game that is why people being hasty and accepting Rayn's point before fact checking was weird especially as there are instances in this game where rayn has been wrong on wording and misread. If rayn agreed with my point on you why are you not applying the same logic and calling rayn scum too because he agreed with the same point. If in fact you think rayn is town then by definition his agreeing with that point means that townies agree. It's not even an actual point on why i am scum it's just... Holyflare pointed something about me out! Aha! | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:40 Koshi wrote: What hf did was stupid because he never bothered reading the evidence against Vivax. HF will be hard lynch cuz I dont know how he plays town. I wouldn't be a 1/5th of this games posts (since game start) if i was scum | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:32 Koshi wrote: May I say I never thought giggle was mafia. For the record. Have you actually read the content? It confirms him as mafia :o | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:50 Koshi wrote: Always sad when the guy with more thread presence says this. Well you're already doubting the alignment day 1 of me so if it makes you actually listen to me more when I'm dead i would do that over and over again. | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:54 Giggletummy wrote: Yes, I called you out for doing something particularly scummy. Are all of your posts particularly scummy? No. But when you screw up, you screw up. You just said "it doesn't really prove vivax's alignment" which means it's wifom which means that what o said isn't scummy by nature... Lol | ||
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I said dp can post any number of pages as scum it doesn't matter how many pages he has in this game and then made a satirical joke that hopless decided to comment on. | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:57 Giggletummy wrote: Yup. He's fantastically likely to be scum for lying like this. But as you just noted, sometimes townies lie and do ridiculous things. That doesn't mean vivax is town, that means that lying for no discernible reason is like 95/5 scummy. It has nothing to do with his alignment and my outrage is that people (like dp etc) were unvoting/voting before fact checking, before listening to the players information etc etc when it literally happened the same way when a townie did it in this last titanic so why is there firat intention to insta vote (i dont care what you say about 95/5 because that 5 is more than enough doubt for me to question someone on) | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:59 Giggletummy wrote: HF, how about instead of just flinging accusations, you comment on VE. I assume you will continue to say that you yourself aren't scum, but how about VE? Flinging accusations lol? You JUST made a case on why I'm scum which was terrible, full of wifom abd showed you hadn't really updated your read on me since your last thread entry. I do not know about ve's alignment, i agreed with his vivax point that his opening looked towny and i agreed on his point about you and you are doing it again. I am your scum read and you tried to get discussion about your scum read dropped and then had 0 more discussion about your scum read but then wasted time discussing about coag with rayn (your town read) who you called out for misrepresentation but never scum | ||
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The fact of the matter is i am town and i would have placed vivax in the same bracket ve did based on his first post, i also agree with the point about you not addressing me further at all that ve made. None of those points make ve scum. None of your points make me scum either and they are redundant so the fact of the natter is 1 of your reads is definitely wrong and the other one i don't agree on. So i wobder why it is you aren't finding mafia in this game and the only conclusion is that you are mafia because your reads aren't fluid and updating like a normal towny. It's case 1 talk about it case 2 of the same stuff with added extra. Not talk talk talk to scum read, check reactions, weigh up what reactions mean abd then case | ||
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On March 21 2014 02:38 VisceraEyes wrote: This. I just went and looked over rayn's point. Like, my only question: would scum do what Vivax did knowing that what he said was easily verifiable? Also try out this logic: sometimes as a townie if I'm not fully caught up yet, if I'm to a certain point and I think someone is mafia, I'll then open their filter to see the stuff they say - and sometimes some of the stuff they say occurs AFTER the point where I'm reading to because I can read a filter faster than I can read a thread. Like, I haven't seen Vivax explain this because I haven't looked, has he even tried? He said they were mafia at page 40. Nothing he used as evidence was before page 40. That's the jist of it. | ||
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On March 21 2014 02:41 Hopeless1der wrote: I dont think vivax has been back since the votes piled on So who do you think is mafia? | ||
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On March 21 2014 02:43 Hopeless1der wrote: the guy i added my vote to the pile of. So then there are 3 more if that's the case....? Or are you saying over the entire course of the game only rayn has swayed you to such an obvious mafia? | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare what's up? wat to do now? Chill out, I'll paint some adventures and we lynch giggle, djo, hopeless. Cop can check any of them to make sure. Or me for safety sake don't really care. You are doc so you are dead! | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Stop talking about blues Holyflare please. I think you missed the obvious part where you aren't doc because i am | ||
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On March 19 2014 20:51 Koshi wrote: I don't understand why DP is giving Vivax this much credit. On March 19 2014 20:52 Koshi wrote: He calls people out for calling Vivax mafia. He thinks Vivax said pretty reasonable things. He can't explain what Vivax said. -ok!- | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:24 Koshi wrote: true. But there were so many people saying that first post of Vivax was not bad. While it was quite scummy in my eyes. I was making a joke (But not really at the same time) | ||
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Was also a long time before deadline. Anyway, On March 20 2014 13:17 Vivax wrote: Thrawn, start saying who is scum and not do other shit please. The people I accuse can defend themselves on their own, while your reasoning above looked like it would be from an authentic thought process, it's sketchy as fuck that all you're doing is antagonizing me and being exceptionally thick on the points on TehPoofter. Unless you have some superduper evidence that TehPoofter and hopeless are not scum and are willing to present it, then you can gently fuck off instead of saying "BUT IT COULD BE TOWN" 100 times. What you're doing is in no way productive, it only tries to discredit and keep doubt up. On March 20 2014 14:26 Vivax wrote: I made a case with multiple points in it, you responded to one point of it. That is nitpicking. Consider all the information or don't write about it. Besides Poofter can perfectly answer to it by himself, hence I see no reason to defend him as town unless you have a point that proves he's town, which neither you nor thrawn brought up after I requested it. If you aren't sure about his alignment then you have no reason to defend him cause you need him to talk to figure it out. Moral of the story: Don't take away pressure from my scumread unless you have a damn good reason to, which you don't seem to have. Scum-or-dumb-points to both of you. Lot of page 2 vivax filter should clear me, thrawn and poofter as town. Not just these points in particular | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a problem because there is some scum(mers) hiding somewhere and i don't know where. I refuse to believe both of Djodref and GT are mafia because it does not make any sense. And even if they are there is still at least one scum somewhere and i don't know where. plz halp guis! Well other than hopeless (read his filter ffs) there's ome other guy that i have a hunch about .. . . . . . . | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because this is my read on VE: ![[image loading]](http://i58.tinypic.com/16k1d08.png) Someone else needs to do something about VE. I think he is mafia but every time he answers me i think he is town because of how he answers me. it's hard when he doesn't participate in the thread bro | ||
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On March 20 2014 10:20 Hopeless1der wrote: 1 of DP/HF I think VE has a slight chance but I have him as town atm poof/vivax/djo is a clusterfuck to me...at least 1 i guess GT has my vote and then slam hasnt posted anything On March 20 2014 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote: no, but i think one of them is town...for the reason stated, the amount of early game bs and sustained shitshow. I want to point out these wise words of insight from god of reads (but for some reason sheeping) hopeless he's been on my case all game, he even defends dp and says what dp's actions mean before dp does: On March 20 2014 23:31 Hopeless1der wrote: rayn alleged that vivax had lied. DP was receptive to it and unvoted until things could be verified. Its a show of good faith that he is considering the allegation and not dismissing it as absurb. why at this point was it between me or dp? why not just me? his "clusterfuck" with the ... at least 1 I guess is also super fucking weirdly worded "....at least 1" when 1 has flipped mafia already (pretty sure djo is too) it looks like he just lumped together some scum and said at least 1 and he didn't elaborate on that bit at all ever but just said it was a clusterfuck so he doesn't know then he throws ve into the mix?? he has a town read on ve A TOWN READ ON VE OK so why mention him as a slight chance at all??? to town read someone is to mean that they aren't scum as he said here: On March 19 2014 22:25 Hopeless1der wrote: he was constantly explaining why coag was not scum. In light of the fact that there are only two alignments in the game, a binary function of notscum=town should apply. yet ve is there...? I can see hopeless and ve being a team in this game because ve's dealings around the vivax lynch were super weird and antsy (but why would scum do that you ask! - short answer, meh dunno) but it was just weird, like a panicked person that just returned to see their rber being lynched | ||
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Judge: I find Vivax....................... GUILTY Holyflare: but we didn't even have to do anything Phoenix what just happened? Phoenix: Well that is quite simply my young apprentice, we called our expert detective kiterayn to the stand! Don't you remember? FLASHBACK TO TRIAL!!!!!!!!!!! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nz7grT1.png) Kiterayn: Vivax lied k cz all his evidence happened after he called them scum so duh mafia END OF FLASHBACK!!!!!!!!!!! Holyflare: OH yeh, easy! Now, just to find the others! Back to evidence collecting! Phoenix: This should be easy! | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: NONONO MY OTHER EAR TURNED YELLOW! the disease is already setting in | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my problem. GT being mafia would make sense but if GT is mafia wtf was mafia doing whole D1?? having 0 thread presence because vivax was afk, gt was afk (if the others are djo and hopeless): they had no thread presence, no authority and couldn't push off either without looking weird | ||
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Oats comes out from a neutral point to a town point after the lynch for how he pushed it along and brought up the 95%/5% logic to HF. Basically saying hey this is an almost sure thing more of the time so we should roll with it on day 1. I think this put him at the number 3 spot in my town circle. wasn't that giggletummy? | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:07 Palmar wrote: No, there is an easy outside possibility HF is scum, but it's not until our current pool of scummy people starts to prove bad that we need to really worry about it. For now HF I don't really care, HF can't control the lynch in a town with me/rayn/kosh anyway. you are fucking retarded | ||
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1. thrawn2112 2. DarthPunk 3. Hopeless1der 4. djodref 5. Holyflare 6. VisceraEyes 7. raynpelikoneet 8. Vivax 9. Coagulation 10. tehpoofter (only green im sort of hesitant about but not entirely) 11. Oatsmaster 12. GiggleTummy 13. Koshi 14. Palmar 15. Alakaslam therefore: DP, Hopeless, djod, VE, Giggle, slam are all the remaining targets left, there are 3 mafia remaining I think slam is an ok person to remove from here because of the rayn thing, DP is a good cop check, hopeless/giggle/djo are all good vig targets (more djo) you can quote me on this later for reasoning and elaboration if you wish and if i go back on this quote this too for proof that im scum going back on town reads | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: DP is not a good cop check. He should always be shot by mafia tonight because: 1) he is the "best" town player here. 2) doc is on rayn. yes but he wont be | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:21 Koshi wrote: his unvote was too quick. He didn't check the evidence yet but he unvoted so quickly while he was so certain about giggletummy. I also have a feeling he was looking for a lynch outside giggle and djodref the entire time. koshi is a million% my top town | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:24 Palmar wrote: DP actually didn't join the GT wagon until quite late I think. That's the weirdest thing he has done this game, because I recall him being very convinced GT is mafia, but he didn't join the wagon until late. But then again, he instantly jumped the Vivax thing, so he looks quite good for that. Not to mention the dude has a huge filter, no reason really to start thinking about him as mafia unless we start lynching townies. the wagon he shouldn't even be on because giggle made a case that followed dp's train of thought? yeh that one, the one he joined over his 100% scum read on tehpoofter that who else shared? oh yeh vivax! switched from 100% scum read that he made a giant wall of text on out of nothing to the afkish guy that he agreed on | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare are you calling DarthPunk mafia for first hesitating to bus his teammate Giggle and then insta-bussing Vivax with no thought at all? i have a hunch giggle will flip town | ||
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dp (scum) accuses poofter (town) but doesn't gain weight, other wagons are djo (scum) and giggle (town), who is he going to dive onto next? Yes, the guy that is town. | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think this post is really really terrible. tell me that in post game | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:32 Hopeless1der wrote: That's a terrific story holy. Why does that make him scum? I'm really not seeing it and it makes me want to get you lynched even more. i'm your top scum read! i should be the only person you want to lynch!?!??! | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:34 Hopeless1der wrote: So....3 mislynches later, OMG guys DP totes scum check did out. it's 1 day later you just vig djo and lynch giggle which is the plan anyway? | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you are saying DarthPunk tried to lynch tehpoofer. When it gains no traction he hesitates to join on Giggletummy wagon and when i make a case on Vivax, DarthPunk insta-sheeps me without even knowing fully what the case is about?? Really Holyflare, this is what you are suggesting? he doesn't hesitate, he joins giggle straight away without commenting on the case he spent the entire game waiting for and that case agreed with all his points so he should be voting for a townish read, he gives conclusive reasons that djo is scum but is voting for the guy that agreed with his points and made a case that he didnt look over or question? isn't that odd to you? | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:38 Palmar wrote: I am almost certain he joined giggle like 30 pages after I voted him or something ridiculous like that. your point was shit and it just said "hes afk" which is 0 scum tell because slam is also afk and we think he's town so no, that's not a reason | ||
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On March 19 2014 18:45 Palmar wrote: Tbf it's not like you've posted anything of value. The main reason I'm not lynching you atm is just activity alone. And I think almost none of the weird things hf has said are directly in relation to his assessment of you. But I may be wrong I sorta skipped some of your argument 7-8 pages of DP's filter are contentless, he is FORCED to make a terrible case on town poofter at this point to fit in | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote: Oh I said that, looks like I was smart in the past too! HF: I went back and checked. I tempvoted Giggle on page 54 and properly (mspaint) on 67. rayn voted him on page 63. DP voted giggle on page 89. That does not count as instantly in my book. isntantly was the wrong word but look at what he is forced to do with scum partner djo On March 20 2014 07:51 geript wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wiab85z.jpg) DarthPunk (1): Holyflare Coagulation (0): Holyflare (1): Giggletummy Tehpoofter (1): DarthPunk Hopeless1der (0): djodref (3): Oatsmaster, Koshi, thrawn2112 Giggletummy (4): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der Not Voting: djodref, Vivax, tehpoofter, Alakaslam Currently Giggletummy is set to be lynched. Day ends in 0m 0s On March 20 2014 14:56 geript wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DbZvPvy.jpg) DarthPunk (1): Holyflare Coagulation (0): Holyflare (1): Giggletummy Tehpoofter (1): Hopeless1der (0): djodref (3): Oatsmaster, Koshi, thrawn2112 Giggletummy (5): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, DarthPunk Not Voting: djodref, tehpoofter, Alakaslam Currently Giggletummy is set to be lynched. Day ends in 0m 0s | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: So in your opinion mafia team is Djo afk, Vivax and DP both bussing poofer and poofer afk? Seems legit Holyflare. what the fuck are you talking about i said poofter is town? | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then there is no reason not to push poofer over GT as DP scum. read the fucking game, look at the vote counts DJO WAS EQUAL in votes, he had to backtrack his scum read on djo HIS PROPER SCUM READ ON DJO FROM META and vote for lurker giggle who posted a case that agreed with his posts | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:52 Hopeless1der wrote: wait what? arent you saying that DP had a read on djo and ignored it to go onto GT? Where did I even comment on djo? first part yes, he called him scum and said it was wishy washy like his scum game actually read oats' filter because oats is also at the same level as town hero koshi and talks about it a lot and in depth | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:54 Palmar wrote: I want an honest answer. Do you think it's reasonable to assume mafia was afraid the djodref case (which at the point of DP's vote was not even being talked about for the most part) would pull ahead of the GT case? GT was ahead and being pushed very, very heavily by me and rayn who both are quite good at getting what we want. yes, mafia trait is hyper paranoia | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:57 Koshi wrote: I am remembering it. Cuz I am totes on same page. thank you town hero, win the game for me i will medic save u! | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does DP not oppose the lynch and push poofer (to look good when GT flips town + they have a mislynch later) and Vivax says "yes i think GT is mafia as i said before, here are some reasons" (to look good and not get lynched like he did). Like what the fuck? Why does mafia do the opposite of obvious best play? DarthPunk is not that bad. because poofter gains no traction and gt is an easy lynch that top town reads are one? are you even thinking about this? poofter would flip town and it would look way worse because he started the push on poofter!? | ||
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On March 21 2014 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i think is about 1000x likely is that Holyflare defended his scumbuddy, Djodref did not know what to do and Hopeless had no other choice than to buss. There, way more likely than DP shit theory. So i bring up meta to say vivax is scummy to then ask why he's scum when you link the wrong link and wonder why it's weird? Dat logix, especially telling people earlier to 1 for 1 trade with giggletummy who i think might actually be town now while telling vig to shoot scum buddy djo! | ||
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On March 20 2014 18:18 thrawn2112 wrote: those posts from djo you say are reasonable, here is what you previously said about them: you said they looked bad. after that you went on to call djo mafia based on meta. the SAME posts that you are calling reasoanble and using to justify not lynching djo, are the posts that you initially called bad. what's up with that? On March 20 2014 18:28 thrawn2112 wrote: not really, because those djo posts were so bad that it overrides the fact that he was at least here to make them. here is what you're saying scummy guy 1 doesn't show up scummy guy 2 shows up and says scummy stuff and then you're deciding that scummy guy 2 is being "reasonable" and is worth saving over #1? i think they should at least be equal in scumminess from your point of view, especially considering how any time you talk about anything djo says you call it scummy It wqs top town thrawn that said the stuff i meant read the rest of his filter for more. Not oats. | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you shoot DarthPunk i am going to steal your candy and have Koshi throw it in trash. I honestly do not care half of the people that are calling dp town are saying it's because of his filter size. The first 8 pages say nothing and a lot of it is filled up with crap like this. | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: What? In that post i clearly state what i would expect a townie do and what giggle did and that's why i think he is mafia. It has nothing to do with black and white or whatever crap he was talking about. Maybe it's him or you who is not reading the posts properly. If it's moere 1 giggle is mafia, if it's more 2 you are mafia both options making giggle mafia and he provides counter reasons for your points which is what a towny being discredited would also do so it is not "slandering a player that's town" like dp said | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:47 DarthPunk wrote: He gave some IRL excuses though. I agree he doesn't look good. I'm just torn between lynching him and GT. I'm not sure if they could both be scum together either. That is something I need to look into when I finish my catch up. He's self confirming the prophecy! Look at this! | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:59 DarthPunk wrote: You know what is funny. All you have done all game is go after me and try and stop a scum lynch. So maybe you should shut up. i relinquish my powers of vig and maintain i am instead a prophet sent from next level mafia | ||
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On March 21 2014 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare how about you stop for a while and instead say something about someone else than DP so i can figure out who is in fact mafia because tbh i do not know atm. You are not going to convince me DP is scum whatever you say, not today. it's somewhat pointless speculating until flips of djo and giggle have been achieved but i've already given you the list: On March 21 2014 08:15 Holyflare wrote: read things before you make outrageously bad statements please! I am going to list post for you: 1. thrawn2112 2. DarthPunk 3. Hopeless1der 4. djodref 5. Holyflare 6. VisceraEyes 7. raynpelikoneet 8. Vivax 9. Coagulation 10. tehpoofter (only green im sort of hesitant about but not entirely) 11. Oatsmaster 12. GiggleTummy 13. Koshi 14. Palmar 15. Alakaslam therefore: DP, Hopeless, djod, VE, Giggle, slam are all the remaining targets left, there are 3 mafia remaining I think slam is an ok person to remove from here because of the rayn thing, DP is a good cop check, hopeless/giggle/djo are all good vig targets (more djo) you can quote me on this later for reasoning and elaboration if you wish and if i go back on this quote this too for proof that im scum going back on town reads | ||
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On March 21 2014 12:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why Hopeless and which one of Djo/giggle and why? Help me out because i can see reasons for all of them to be mafia but i don't know who is and who isn't. I pointed out that weird hopeless post earlier and the fact that he was answering all of dp's statements for him with weird 1 liners in response to me but apart from that it's little things (like the content of his post - get it- little) 1) original stupid shit on me when he didn't know a thing he was talking about 2) didn't mention anything to do with coag/you scenario - just mentioned coag gonna get policied every game and nothing else 3) does more answers for other players: On March 19 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote: he's either buddying (scummy) or inferring things about your posts that aren't there (possibly scummy). whats your game history like with HF? 4) meta's me based off of one game despite playing with me as scum in another 5) On March 19 2014 11:46 Hopeless1der wrote: i cant do that thrawn. rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read. p.s. i'm going to bed now. this useless crap 6) On March 19 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote: coag for seal HF for being dense and altogether not useful rayn for being rayn palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him town read dp on first 7 pages of filter when already expressed that first 7 pages of dp's filter are totally full of shit 7) admits he hasnt actually read the town games on me so has no idea what he's talking about - still maintains i am scum 8) explains how koshi was explaining about coag being town all early game which means he read that thing and had no reads from it whatsoever otherthan coag being town after he flipped 9) wants a response from giggle, gets a response, sheeps ve on something that giggle said ve didn't read about but doesn't mention his own view but adds the caveat that maybe giggle isn't scum On March 20 2014 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote: [/i]well then again he could be calling it scummy []ibecause its "useless" still votes giggle because of you and palmar, admits later it's self preservation instead even though no votes on him 10) On March 21 2014 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote: Scum DP has not, so page count is a justifiable method of meta reading him. defends dp more and more, posts for him more and more, agrees that i look weird (i responded about it) On March 21 2014 00:14 Holyflare wrote: I'm not even really defending him i just don't have the information you all have i just have the link rayn posted so it looked super weird. It's not until he explained giggle had posted since his stuff on thrawn that it made sense and i provided the most logical reason for a scum vivax out of everything because everything else was just "it's a lie" which doesn't define an alignment. To +1 this after you just witnessed me bus my entire team day 1 in culture and you played scum with me in lxiii where i also bussed heavily. You agree with this point? I would heavily implicate myself in a scum lynch like that? You are super scummy with these interjections hopeless didnt say anything back 11)has 3 pages of filter pre-vivax lynch, it's 8 now with no content most of it defending djo based on nothing? 12)says he had a weak scum read on giggle despite voting him, admits that he's feeling good about giggle and thinks djo is a mislynch after agreeing with my lynch order that includes giggle, djo and himself but not me (lol) On March 21 2014 09:12 Hopeless1der wrote: oh okay, so i can safely ignore this until djo flips mafia, which imo he wont. | ||
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On March 21 2014 12:50 thrawn2112 wrote: hopelss IS town though. i'd think that would be obvious why is that? | ||
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On March 21 2014 04:49 Vivax wrote: I'm still not caught up with the thread, I'm also tired today, and I don't see how I can save myself from this lynch. I give up and I don't want to play this game anymore, I'm tired of getting called scum whenever I have a life outside of this fucking game compared to people like rayn. Get this over with and I hope it's going to make you feel extremely satisfacted to see me flipping green you bad bastards. Hope scum wins this game, this town doesn't deserve to win. I gave you scum on a silver plate and you rejected it for some shitty reasoning. I think this might have been true and that's why he is actually angry (poofter scum? :OOOOOO) | ||
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On March 21 2014 04:49 Vivax wrote: I'm still not caught up with the thread, I'm also tired today, and I don't see how I can save myself from this lynch. I give up and I don't want to play this game anymore, I'm tired of getting called scum whenever I have a life outside of this fucking game compared to people like rayn. Get this over with and I hope it's going to make you feel extremely satisfacted to see me flipping green you bad bastards. Hope scum wins this game, this town doesn't deserve to win. I gave you scum on a silver plate and you rejected it for some shitty reasoning. what if this is true and poofter/hopless is scum? | ||
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so your list is something like: 1. thrawn2112 2. DarthPunk 3. Hopeless1der 4. djodref 5. Holyflare 6. VisceraEyes 7. raynpelikoneet 8. Vivax 9. Coagulation 10. tehpoofter (only green im sort of hesitant about but not entirely) 11. Oatsmaster 12. GiggleTummy 13. Koshi 14. Palmar 15. Alakaslam that? | ||
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On March 21 2014 13:29 thrawn2112 wrote: holyflare do you know what the difference is between my arguing with vivax and your argunig with vivax? not really i didn't care at the time? 1 of the reasons being i didn't read a thing he said or what you said for that matter | ||
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Either way, i self confirm tomorrow I told you you are wasting your time so let me ask again, who is scum? | ||
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On March 21 2014 13:38 DarthPunk wrote: You. And probably one of Djo/GT not sure which. I want VE to answer my question when he comes back. And no you are not a vigilante Holyflare so don't even bother lol. please tell me that when you are dead | ||
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On March 21 2014 13:46 DarthPunk wrote: Why bother? when there is not two shots tonight and I am a dead townie he gets to live so i say im shooting dp and then i claim to shoot another person at the deadline and dp and the other person dies what happens then? | ||
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On March 21 2014 13:47 thrawn2112 wrote: exactly. you didn't give a shit about tying to help us figure out vivax's alignment. because i was busy handing dp on a platter to all of you, i didn't care about vivax no but i don't defend a mafia partner in any game ever so why would i make a meta read on him saying he's scummy because his defence of being afk was completely different to last game and then hardcore "defend" (it's not even a defence) him like that? | ||
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if dp says post count matters then this must be the truth | ||
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I lie about vig as town - nothing happens you lynch me (-1 town) I lie about vig as town - get counterclaimed by some retard (-1 town) Does option 1 look like superb scum play to you? | ||
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whatever thrawn, let's continue our discussion! are you still thinking the dp push on djo was weird? if so what do you make of the fact that 2 targets he pushed yesterday djo and giggle are now considered by him to be "only 1 scum and 1 town" for no reason whatsoever? | ||
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thrawn, let's continue our discussion! are you still thinking the dp push on djo was weird? if so what do you make of the fact that 2 targets he pushed yesterday djo and giggle are now considered by him to be "only 1 scum and 1 town" for no reason whatsoever? | ||
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On March 21 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote: Just gonna requote this so dp doesn't bury it with more nonsense: what if this is true and poofter/hopless is scum and that's why he is angry? | ||
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On March 21 2014 14:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think that's a reasonable thing to assume. If DarthPunk flips town and there is another town flip during the night i will automatically assume you are the scum 50% vigilante and you took a gamble that there is no real vigilante in the game and will do everything i can to lynch you on D2. If DarthPunk flips mafia during this night i will lynch whoever you say on D2. i am pretty sure the picture in the day post on day 1 shows 4 blue roles for a reason no way i'd ever claim like that | ||
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On March 21 2014 14:20 thrawn2112 wrote: yes, but if i'm going to go down that route then my first stop will have to be lynching djodref. as to the second part, i don't know what you're referencing where dp has his scum read on djo and his scum read on giggle but then he posts this: On March 21 2014 11:47 DarthPunk wrote: He gave some IRL excuses though. I agree he doesn't look good. I'm just torn between lynching him and GT. I'm not sure if they could both be scum together either. That is something I need to look into when I finish my catch up. On March 21 2014 13:42 DarthPunk wrote: I don't think they are both scum. I don't think it is likely and that is all I have to say about it. Especially because sent balances teams and I don;t think that Vivax + GT + Djo + X is balanced. | ||
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On March 21 2014 14:29 thrawn2112 wrote: rayn what are you thinking right now? what about what i just posted? | ||
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On March 21 2014 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have absolutely no idea. I don't see any reason for this whole mess and i have no idea why Holyflare keeps going with this. If he is a vigilante what the fuck is the point of arguing with the person he is going to shoot because he's gonna be dead anyways? do you see what i'm doing in the meantime? trying to talk to thrawn | ||
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On March 21 2014 14:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have also no idea why Holyflare did not make the case on giggle/djo and instead went to "but tehpoofer is scum instead bcz vivax". because i'm undecided about them and you went afk x_x? didnt reply to my thing on hopeless at all so i just stopped doing it | ||
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On March 20 2014 19:02 Holyflare wrote: Well this is an outright lie Case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=43#855 Dp filter where it happens: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?user=DarthPunk&page=6 0 questions before case | ||
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Basically I feel like hes trying to figure out the game he is pushing in weird directions but I think pushing hard is more town than mafia. If hes mafia hes sticking his neck out REALLY far on the wrong people that are going to flip town.... | ||
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On March 21 2014 14:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's in fact really fishy because it is an outright lie. The fact is at that time DP is voting for poofer but shortly after that post from poofer he switches his vote on GT and never comments on poofer again. this was all in my case against dp.............. .......... ......................... DP: Makes case on poofter saying he is 100% confirmed mafia. THEN ASKS QUESTIONS. Drops read on poofter out of the blue to then go onto djo here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=75#1497 and says this at the end Basically I want to lynch one of Djo or GT today. I want poofter to answer my fucking questions. Then I will be a happy panda. so at this point it's djo or gt (hint: he never comments on giggle's case)! he straight up votes giggle without commenting on his case here even tho giggle's case was dp's reads on me (so he should be agreeing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=76#1509 THEN after that it's poofter is scum again! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=84#1671 (confirmed liar scum!) then he defends djo for a bit, tests waters about his 100% scum read poofter and then AND THEN HE VOTES FUCKING GIGGLE FOR NO REASON OVER 100% CONFIRMED SCUM TO HIM: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=89#1773 i dont know how many times i have to post the same thing for you to see | ||
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On March 21 2014 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's see who gets killed first and figure out that shit after. I am pretty sure Hopeless is mafia. that's what i was thinking x_x | ||
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On March 22 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Half of Giggle's cases on Holyflare and VE is about why they are mafia with Vivax!!! This. If he has a scum read it evolves over time and you pick out reasons someone is mafia based on posts. His whole thing on me stemmed on the fact that i "slipped" but then he said vivax could be any alignment after and it's still a slip... Lol. Was so weird | ||
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On March 22 2014 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: No we lynch the guy who knew Vivax' alignment before flip. After this guy (shoot this guy) | ||
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On March 22 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why did you defend him if it was useless? I wanted to make sure because what you were saying "he lied about page numbers" didn't necessarily make him mafia and that's why i said you were a tool because the thing you linked didn't make him mafia. It wasn't till you fully explained it that i understood. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:23 VisceraEyes wrote: In spite of me stating quite clearly that I'm not interested in discussing it rayn - you found it important enough to question me about it IN SPITE of me not wanting to spend any more time on it. Maybe "convinced" isn't the word, but he's wasting a lot of time and he's now included you in it. So we just take your word for things and.. Yolo? There's nothing wrong with making sure of things and it's not exactly a waste of time to cover all bases just to make sure. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:24 Hopeless1der wrote: and in the meantime, holy is claiming scum left right and center and rayn has also found GT scum. Time well wasted. How about you qualify these statements because at the moment we all think you are scum and you are doing nothing to prove otherwise | ||
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On March 21 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote: Just gonna requote this so dp doesn't bury it with more nonsense: what if this is true and poofter/hopless is scum? Reposting this now that people are awake | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:42 Hopeless1der wrote: A) you've done similar to me. B) There's not a chance in hell that I (read: me) will convince people that you are scum over rayn's case on GT. Now, if koshi/DP/Palmar decided that you were worth looking at, well then we'll see tomorrow. C) "we all?" Okay buddy. Calls me scum all game, now says "you've done similar to me". Is he calling himself scum then? You decide! | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:51 VisceraEyes wrote: LIKE PALMAR IS VERY OBVIOUSLY IGNORING EVERYTHING I'M DOING DURING THIS CYCLE! HE'S NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE SCUMHUNTING OR THREAD INTERACTION OR ANYTHING I'M DOING - HE'S JUST SHOVELING SHIT ON ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN SPITE OF ME VERY OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO MAKE MY OPINIONS ON OTHERS KNOWN! THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ASININE AND WHATS WORSE IS THAT HE COULD BE TOWN DOING THIS!! So aren't you wasting time now arguing that he could be town after all this anyway? Who is the scum? | ||
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Absolutely real. Either you think he is scum in which case you need to prove it to us instead of raging at him or you think he's town in which case you need to stop perpetuating the very thing you are angry at palmar about. Either way stop raging get to ze chopper and scum hunt with us! | ||
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What is the part that makes me scum? Is it the part where i explore all situations possible? Or is it the part where i do that thing that i explained about on vivax that i would never do as scum? Or is it the longest filter in the game part? None of the things you mentioned make me scum and it looks really forced. | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote: it was never because of "lying about page numbers". it was lying about having seen content and having the chance to form reads based on things before or after a listed page number. And you knew this because you cited "oh he checked filters" (or was that oats, i thought both). I said that's the reason he could be scummy. So.. I was right -.- everyone else said it was a lie about page numbers and i am the one that gave the reason ehy the page numver thing could come from scum, it wasn't about content until rayn explained it properly with a link that i could check from phone | ||
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Do i: A) super hardcore defend a mafia partner so i look really really bad when it's an obvious mafia flip B) sit along quietly for the super awesome town cred B is always the option i take. I am town, rayn said it was about page numbers. Townies can lie about page numbers. Then he said it was about content. Townies can lie about content and grab stuff from filters later. Then rayn explains it's that he called people scum for page 40 and had 0 reasoning for his initial reads before page 40. Lynch obvious scum. What alignment am i? | ||
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You have done no ecploring its just "hf is mafia" if i am mafia who are the other mafia? What was happening day 1 in your opinion in the mafia team. My opinion is that dp is mafia, that should be evident. I thought you were likely town for this which is backed up by dp now saykng i don't think giggle and djo are mafia together despite you both being his scum reads all day. Its this scummy shit you keep spouting avout me that is putting me off you and tgat is why i am undecided. | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:43 Hopeless1der wrote: HF who is dying tonight? Koshi or palmar most probably. | ||
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On March 25 2014 20:09 Koshi wrote: DP did you crumb cop by saying "COP PLS CHECK ME" 24/7? I lol'd | ||
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On March 25 2014 20:21 DarthPunk wrote: God. If you think you played well that is like the opposite of what you should take away from this game. I never said i played well i said i was right. | ||
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On March 25 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote: Ahhhh now I also remember the reaction to DP to my Vivax accusation. DP called me out for calling Vivax mafia because Vivax said reasonable things. I ask what Vivax meant in his opening post. DP had no idea. Damned. I really need to have a system in which I keep giving scummy points for things I don't like. Or save it somewhere. Next game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=111#2207 x_x Also, this was ALMOST the correct play :O! On March 15 2014 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a brilliant game plan that can't possibly fail: D1 lynch whoever Holyflare says because he's most likely right or bussing. D2 lynch Holyflare because he was changing his scumplay or he wasn't. D3 ask Coag to post his townie seal. Lynch him because if he doesn't he's mafia, if he does - policy. D4 lynch DarthPunk as a policy to ruin his scum stats. D5 lynch Koshi because at some point he will call me mafia and regardless of my affiliation convince Palmar it's the correct play to top my chances of winning the game. Also he has already won a game as SK and noone should win two games as SK. D6 lynch VE - same SK reasoning as for Koshi. D7 lynch Wave based on a feeling that he might be mafia. D8 party with Palmar - lynch Artanis because he hasn't posted enough (i decide what's enough). Profit! edit: forgot something | ||
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On March 25 2014 21:42 Djodref wrote: I don't know, I think I should have been mafia mislynch for D1, so many town players were already on me before GT wagon really started to get traction... I would like to praise both Palmar and DP for the effort they put into this game, it's really hard to imagine people posting as much as scum and even if some posts were scummy, it's hard to really get to the incriminating part with such huge filters. Of course, rayn and koshi deserve some praise as well. I think you could try to soften up a little rayn because some of your agressive posts really put me in a position where I didn't want to try anymore. Holyflare, you may be right, but your play is almost anti-town. I had to spend so much time trying to get where you were going, and try to get if you were mafia or not. As for me, I'll do better next time if you actually read the content that would be cool, there are filter buttons for that. | ||
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On March 25 2014 22:32 Hopeless1der wrote: i was hoping to leverage my scumminess into developing a redcheck, which is probably why I was so set on checking holyflare, because he was one of the only people to call me scum. so you play scummy and then assume the people calling you scum are mafia...? x_x? | ||
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