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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 02:29 GMT
#841
can you explain some of those things?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 02:32 GMT
#842
most of all I want to hear explanations for the hf/palmar reads, dont worry about coag
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 02:34 GMT
#843
coag for seal
HF for being dense and altogether not useful
rayn for being rayn
palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off
DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 02:36 GMT
#844
HF insists his reads are legit, unless he's recanted his DP read somewhere that I missed. His case on DP was such a farce I question how he ever earned the championship belt.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 02:41 GMT
#845
On March 19 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
coag for seal
HF for being dense and altogether not useful
rayn for being rayn
palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off
DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him


this doesn't help me. if you took this post completely out of context and didn't know anything about this game, you'd have no idea if those reads make those players town or mafia

"rayn for being rayn"

recently you said that rayn should be lynched if he doesn't come back, but if he does come back he's town. I want to knwo about your read on him right now, not related to some conditional crap in the future. my guess is that you think he;s town but I still want you to explain why
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 19 2014 02:46 GMT
#846
i cant do that thrawn. rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read. p.s. i'm going to bed now.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 19 2014 02:51 GMT
#847
you're such a tease
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 19 2014 03:03 GMT
#848
[image loading]


This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap.


Town: Me, Koshi
Mafia: VE, Thrawn
Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare

Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 19 2014 03:10 GMT
#849
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.


Thrawn comes in with the vote on coag and doesnt say anything else but one little post which I believe coag pointed out which moved him from scummy to more fence.


Coag vs Rayn the fight of the century: I think Rayn looks more town for bitching out and afk voting seems like a poor mafia play. Coag tried to defend himself really early super hard but seemed town the further it got into the day he actually stopped tunneling but his initial reaction just read scummy to me.


Palmer I'm null on what he said he kinda ducked out of the whole early game thing and didnt add enough for me to gain alignment from.


I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 19 2014 03:19 GMT
#850
tehpoofter i dont think coag actually stopped tunneling rayn ever. do you realize we are a hydra?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 19 2014 03:20 GMT
#851
On March 19 2014 12:19 Coagulation wrote:
tehpoofter i dont think coag actually stopped tunneling rayn ever. do you realize we are a hydra?



Yes but you did happen to mention other peoples names. So yeah.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 19 2014 03:37 GMT
#852
As much as I'd hate to return to the 10-4 setup, I can't have this go unchecked.

Coagulation the Vanilla Townie has been modkilled due to out-of-thread communication and unapproved smurfing.


On March 14 2014 05:32 Coagulation wrote:
we can hydra ?


On March 14 2014 05:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Sure, just PM me the QT between the two of you


I wanted a QT for purposes of clarity and transparency. Then you said having 5 people in it, and I thought you were half-joking. I would have been fine with you/Kush smurfing but I still needed a log of what you two talked about.

Having your "hydra friends" contribute via the scumdar though, was never cleared with me in advance in any way. Even if some of your friends don't play mafia having the extra heads gives you an unfair advantage of both consensus and towny-looking discussion.


On April 26 2011 13:22 mikeymoo wrote:
Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts.


I never received a PM from you about any of this.

I'm treating this as out-of-thread PM's as they are essentially serving the same purpose, and are not allowed in this game. Due to the special circumstances of this case - namely the fact that I'm on the fence about this one but I feel like the damage has been done - I'm not pursuing a ban after the end of this game.

Apologies


There are now 14 players in the game.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 03:40 GMT
#853
On March 19 2014 11:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2014 10:26 suki wrote:
Someone tell me what HolyFlare is doing.

In the meantime:

[image loading]


so you are saying this was the post you "scoobydoo'd" suki with in culture? I dont know what scooby doo means, i inferred that it simply meant caught a scummer.

At any rate, all this results in is that Really Small (i think, whatever game you caught GGTemplar in referred to below) and Cultured both show you using this "method". There was a reason for it, and afaik it came down to
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:52 Holyflare wrote:
On February 26 2014 21:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting:
So HF suki was your scoobydoo read? Can you go into a little detail?
Mocsta I'm not sure how you get that HF is provoking you. I've seen him provoke people and that isn't it.

Also re:Mocsta's flipping reads-list

Who is more likely to either forget or flip flop on reads with little to no reasoning?
I can say right now as scum I had airtight reads throughout, justification where I needed it and I kept track of who I had my 'reads' on.

I definitely need words with some people today---figuring out suki seems especially key.
Also I might lynch JJD.


Well in really small mafia I did the scooby doo thing and the way I caught GGTemplar was from his joining in with the mini game while questioning what the hell was going on and perpetuating that I was clogging up the thread. Suki did a similar start to this but didn't perpetuate it, hence why I wanted to let her post more to see if she would.

Either way, her posting style was quite evident in her town games and I haven't seen it here yet but she's promised to deliver more later so I can only wait and see.

My initial comments were that your case on DP hinged on him /outing due to hydras then policying hydras (i.e. bullshit pregame stuff). Its stupid and terrible and by no means should anyone have considered it a scumtell.



It is absolutely a scum tell but that isn't even half of what makes dp scum and by extension your townish read of dp makes you scum. DP has NOTHING of value. You chimed in randomly in the day when i asked what dp was doing asking everyone about my posts. You said it was good contribution. Where has that contribution led dp? Nowhere. After I've asked dp why he felt vindicated about coag he says it's not because he's right on them being scum it's because he kbew they'd shit up the thread. So, he dropped scum hunting to perpetuate rayns easy coag target but failed. Where is he now? Oh yeh, 0 scum hunting, 0 conclusions. He's dropped majority of previous questioning and doesn't know what to do. Instead he asks people about their reads and says if lurkers don't post then they are scum. Major contributions. Major town points.

You are now failing to elaborate on reasoning for your reads when asked to. Especially on your very questiinable reads. That is a major red flag and i find it hard to believe that you wouldn't elaborate on them as town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 03:42 GMT
#854
God damn it coag...
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 19 2014 03:45 GMT
#855
Teh poofter is scum.

Comes into the thread giving generic list of 'reads' which are actually not reads. Calls Koshi town as has many others and himself town. Cool. Net result? Nothing fucking useful.

On March 19 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
[image loading]


This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap.


Town: Me, Koshi
Mafia: VE, Thrawn
Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare

Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit.


Gives a null read to all the people who have been actively participating for the past 20 pages. Desipte most of the content coming from them and centering around them he has nothing to say about it.

He says he has explanations that are coming but he has no explanation for VE who is his biggest scum read apparently and yet his only reasoning is that he is lurking. How does one from a solid scum-read on a lurker not even 12 hours into day one?

Hint: You can't. it's not possible thus it is not genuine.

I mean I liked his Venn diagram but that is easy to make as either alignment and he actually says nothing with it.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.


This is his most solid read because it actually provides some small evidence of a thought process beyond just regurgitating the narrative of the thread.

But still it is very much just a log of what happened rather than a read or thought original to himself.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Thrawn comes in with the vote on coag and doesnt say anything else but one little post which I believe coag pointed out which moved him from scummy to more fence.


Repeating events of the day, no original thought or analysis, and somehow voting someone with no reasoning makes him more townie. Like what? What thought processes have occurred for that to make sense? who knows? he hasn;t shown any.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Coag vs Rayn the fight of the century: I think Rayn looks more town for bitching out and afk voting seems like a poor mafia play. Coag tried to defend himself really early super hard but seemed town the further it got into the day he actually stopped tunneling but his initial reaction just read scummy to me.


Repeating that Coag and rayn had a fight. Repeating what I said about rayn's actions not making sense as a mafia play, reciting the past events of the thread. His conclusion and the net sum of analysis for that read? "his initial reaction just read scummy to me."


Palmer I'm null on what he said he kinda ducked out of the whole early game thing and didnt add enough for me to gain alignment from.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!


He liked Holyflares case because " he seemed to take the time to read between the lines" What does that even mean? there is no thought here, no analysis, no scum-hunting just buzzwords and nothingness.

This guy is scum. I am very, very sure.

[image loading]
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 19 2014 03:47 GMT
#856
Err fucked up the editing a bit: Gonna re post.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 03:47 GMT
#857
Please don't it's terrible
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 19 2014 03:49 GMT
#858
How can you call this guy with 100 posts on the forum scum when hopeless made even more useless reads and fails to even clarify them and hopeless plays a shit tonne of forum mafia. The same with giggletummy. There is no asking him to elaborate there is no questioning. Just a case and bam he's scum. DP you have fallen very far.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 19 2014 03:49 GMT
#859
REPOST!

Teh poofter is scum.

Comes into the thread giving generic list of 'reads' which are actually not reads. Calls Koshi town as has many others and himself town. Cool. Net result? Nothing fucking useful.

On March 19 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
[image loading]


This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap.


Town: Me, Koshi
Mafia: VE, Thrawn
Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare

Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit.


Gives a null read to all the people who have been actively participating for the past 20 pages. Desipte most of the content coming from them and centering around them he has nothing to say about it.

He says he has explanations that are coming but he has no explanation for VE who is his biggest scum read apparently and yet his only reasoning is that he is lurking. How does one from a solid scum-read on a lurker not even 12 hours into day one?

Hint: You can't. it's not possible thus it is not genuine.

I mean I liked his Venn diagram but that is easy to make as either alignment and he actually says nothing with it.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.


This is his most solid read because it actually provides some small evidence of a thought process beyond just regurgitating the narrative of the thread.

But still it is very much just a log of what happened rather than a read or thought original to himself.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Thrawn comes in with the vote on coag and doesnt say anything else but one little post which I believe coag pointed out which moved him from scummy to more fence.


Repeating events of the day, no original thought or analysis, and somehow voting someone with no reasoning makes him more townie. Like what? What thought processes have occurred for that to make sense? who knows? he hasn;t shown any.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Coag vs Rayn the fight of the century: I think Rayn looks more town for bitching out and afk voting seems like a poor mafia play. Coag tried to defend himself really early super hard but seemed town the further it got into the day he actually stopped tunneling but his initial reaction just read scummy to me.


Repeating that Coag and rayn had a fight. Repeating what I said about rayn's actions not making sense as a mafia play, reciting the past events of the thread. His conclusion and the net sum of analysis for that read? "his initial reaction just read scummy to me."

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Palmer I'm null on what he said he kinda ducked out of the whole early game thing and didnt add enough for me to gain alignment from.


Cool. Palmar is null, here is a recitation of what he did today, he has posted a bunch and there has been serious contention around him yet there is absolutely nothing I can give thoughts on or analysis to other than mentioning that I don;t have a read on him. Why? what is the point unless you are contributing for the sake of it?

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!


He liked Holyflares case because " he seemed to take the time to read between the lines" What does that even mean? there is no thought here, no analysis, no scum-hunting just buzzwords and nothingness.

This guy is scum. I am very, very sure.

[image loading]
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 19 2014 03:51 GMT
#860
On March 19 2014 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
How can you call this guy with 100 posts on the forum scum when hopeless made even more useless reads and fails to even clarify them and hopeless plays a shit tonne of forum mafia. The same with giggletummy. There is no asking him to elaborate there is no questioning. Just a case and bam he's scum. DP you have fallen very far.


I'm not even going to bother with you. I don't care about his post count. This guy is scum because he is doing scummy things. If you want to tunnel me all game so be it. I'm going to try and catch scum, and make cases when I think I have caught scum.

k?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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