EPTIII Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition - Page 44
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thrawn2112
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On March 19 2014 12:51 thrawn2112 wrote: i think you're wrong dp, my initial reaction to tehpoofter's posts was "aw how cute, look at the little townie" Really? explain to me what your thought process was. When I read his post I was like, this guy is clearly scum. | ||
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Holyflare
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DarthPunk
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On March 19 2014 12:52 Holyflare wrote: Why ignore the entirety of what i wrote and just pick out the bit about you? Why is he scum when he is brand new to forum mafia over hopeless who did the same thing but is not new? Why not giggletummy who put a vote down while agreeing with the person he is voting? Hopeless has made a fucking case and stuck to it and given reasoning for it. This guy LITERALLY said nothing. Hopeless said: Oh look holyflare made a garbage case against dp (which I agree with) then provided me an alternative to you only making garbage cases as town (which I agree with) and then has made sense whenever he has been around enough to post. I already told you how I was going to deal with Hopeless (wait and see because he lurks as scum every time without fail) And I don't want to discuss the same things over and over with you because frankly, it's boring, and frankly you are playing terribly. Ok? | ||
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Holyflare
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DarthPunk
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On March 19 2014 12:53 Holyflare wrote: What makes this guy scum over everyone else that has done the same thing? Why do you pick and choose when to use the 'bad towns use bad meta' for hopeless but not the 'bad towns make wishy washy lists' for him? And this is not the same thing, they are two different things. Meta is harder to use. Wishy-washy crap that says nothing is MORE reliable with newer players because ti is the Natural instincts for scum to not commit to a position and it is difficult for them to fake reads. Meta is NEVER reliable as a primary mechanism behind a read. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On March 19 2014 12:53 DarthPunk wrote: Really? explain to me what your thought process was. When I read his post I was like, this guy is clearly scum. it's a gut read so there's not much more I can say about it. i wasn't convinced by your case. for example the ve read made sense. i'm guessing there might be some context there (ve told me he was good) that might could be explained or referenced but it's not as if his VE read comes out of nowhere like you suggest. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 19 2014 12:59 Holyflare wrote: He has made no proper case at all and all he other reads are 'just because'. If you are town in this game i fail to see how you got 80% because this is downright shoddy Quit being butthurt about winrate. I am sick of your shit it's making the game unenjoyable to play. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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rayn looks worse for it, because rayn can be useful when he's bouncing all the walls and accusing everyone of being mafia. This is not a reason for anyone to be mafia. Just because i think i have found mafia in Coagulation is not a reason to "do something else" and me continuing my discussion with Coag is DEFINITELY not scummy the slightest. Really bad reason for calling someone scum. He is also a smurf so he should know way better, he's even played with me before in Really Small mafia. scumscumscum. Holyflare makes a good post about Palmar. I agree. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=39#770 I don't get why Palmar does not question DP about the post he made about me. If he thinks it's good it should be weird that DP "backed off" from the post as soon as i called it bad or non-contributing. Palmar might very well be mafia. I am not sold on DP being scum, he looks quite ok to me atm. Palmar says DP's post looked like it was written by a townie. Makes much more sense from town!Palmar pov, maybe he's not mafia after all. At least this whole thing is not scummy now that he clarified it. I'm interested in what VE has to say when he gets back. Right now he looks terrible. His couple of posts were really weird and didn't feel like town!VE at all. And yes, Coag is really town, but he is also a [insert curse words] for posting a townie seal and in games where i play i follow my policy every single fucking time. Dealwithit. Townie seals do not belong to a mafia game and they are for people who are incapable of arguing with other people. In other words for people who should not play mafia. thrawn's voting behavior is really bad. He votes for Coag because of "hydras suck" policy (at least that's what his vote says) and as soon as people start thinking Coag is town he unvotes. Makes no sense from town perspective because those two things do not go well together. Giggletummy makes a terrible vote on Holyflare. Promises to contribute on reasoning later (lol wtf). Palmar should be policying Coag for this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=40#798 Earlier on he said he'll policy any hydra that disagrees with themselves. Actually Holyflare's case on Hopeless is really good. I think Hopeless is mafia. He in fact DID reference to the scooby-doo game where Holyflare was town, he used the exact wording so he has read the game. Then he gives another example fully knowing Holyflare has done the same thing as both alignments and therefore his "case" (or accusation, i don't even know what the hell that is) is an outright lie. Hopeless is mafia, Holyflare is town. I have no fucking idea why DarthPunk does not get that. I also don't get why he is fixated in me/Coag thing. There is nothing to say about it and Holyflare apparently does not think either of us is mafia because he has not brought that up. DP thinks both of us are town, why the fuck does he want to question anyone about it? Maybe he is scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=41#817 And this is the reason why townie seal is against the spirit of the game and the exact answer to the question "why is rayn policy lynching me". THE WHOLE TOWNIE SEAL CONCEPT IS FUCKING RETARDED AND UNTIL YOU IDIOTS STOP IT GOING TO BE MY POLICY SO FUCK OFF!! Holyflare notices GiggleTummy's terrible vote (obviously - he should if he's town). Points out good stuff about his scumminess. Good Holyflare good. <3 Another good post about GT from Holyflare. That dude is definitely mafia. Why does DarthPunk not realize this thrawn stuff?? thrawn either voted for Coag for completely made up reasoning (if we trust his second post to be "after he got a better read on Coag") or didn't stand by his policy (if we trust his first post where he clearly states he votes Coag as a policy). Either way, as said, the vote/unvote is absolutely crap and makes no sense and people should realize it. Also DP shits on HF's meta read on GT. I don't like it because what GT has done this game is completely different from what he did in Really small mafia and i think HF has pointed it out very reasonably. Ugh.. this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=42#832 I don't think Hopeless is scummy any more. He's just being terrible. Like really bad. He makes stuff up without having any clue what in fact happened. That does not make him scum though, just bad. Okay the next post from Hopeless puts him back as scum. It makes no sense, it does not add up. He says he called Holyflare out for his meta-case on DP but then he brings up evidence in form of Cultured game mini-adventure-game. That has nothing to do with the meta-case he originallly "called HF out for" like he says now. Hopeless says this: - waiting on rayn to come back, he inevitably will, most likely within the next 15 hours. If he isnt back before ~5 hours to deadline I say we lynch him, otherwise he's likely town This is complete bullshit. Absolutely terrible logic. I am either town in which case you should not lynch me or i am scum in which case you should lynch me. This is "if this happens then X if not then Y", not a read. That dude is mafia. thrawn looks much better for pointing this out. Especially this line from Hopeless: rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read. Second time his story does not match with what he said earlier. Earlier he clearly said "otherwise he's likely town", and when thrawn points out the "conditional crap" (i loved that thrawn) he suddenly does not have a read any more, which is contradictory to what he said before. Lynch with fire. Mafia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=43#848 tehpoofer comes in with bad logic. Reads make no sense. Bad town or mafia? *********reminder to check meta in the morning************
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raynpelikoneet
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DarthPunk
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On March 19 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote: it's a gut read so there's not much more I can say about it. i wasn't convinced by your case. for example the ve read made sense. i'm guessing there might be some context there (ve told me he was good) that might could be explained or referenced but it's not as if his VE read comes out of nowhere like you suggest. Why VE? why is it his biggest scum read? Do you not think that it is a little odd that someone would form his 'biggest scum read' on VE who has done nothing alignment indicative and isn't even lurking as badly as others but not being able to articulate the reasons for it. Like If I have a scum read, I know WHY I have a scum read and I am able to ARTICULATE that read. He says VE is my biggest scum read but I have no idea why. He is literally just posting for the sake of it under the guise of providing reads. There are no reads. I would have expected a townie who was new to say: "Hey guys I don't know who is scum" and ask a few questions. Not make up shit and create a venn diagram and fake participation and reads. all that shit screams scum to me. | ||
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thrawn2112
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On March 19 2014 13:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i'm too scared to actually policy lynch someone who pretty much confirms themselves as town, which is what that voting thing did | ||
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Holyflare
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Rayn your post screams of vengeful mafia reads.. It's scaring me bro, you go against yourself several times in the same paragraph? | ||
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thrawn2112
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On March 19 2014 13:11 DarthPunk wrote: thrawn can attest to this. HOPELESS WILL GO AFK if he is town. no ifs or butts about it. If he is town he will lurk. S both town/scum from my experience | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 19 2014 13:11 DarthPunk wrote: Like I can guarantee you. And thrawn can attest to this. HOPELESS WILL GO AFK if he is mafia. no ifs or butts about it. If he is mafia he will lurk. So let's see if he starts lurking right? This is extremely bad logic and has nothing to do with if what he has posted is scummy or not. | ||
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