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On March 21 2014 08:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is no way DP is mafia. Absolutely no way. He had never bussed Vivax the way he did if he was mafia. his unvote was too quick. He didn't check the evidence yet but he unvoted so quickly while he was so certain about giggletummy. I also have a feeling he was looking for a lynch outside giggle and djodref the entire time.
What? Why was it too quick? I think you need to know, if it hasn't already been made clear. I LOVE to sheep rayn as town, especially when he goes all bad arse mode and catches all the scummers.
Why would I NOT unvote?
Also what the fuck does On March 21 2014 08:21 Koshi wrote: I also have a feeling he was looking for a lynch outside giggle and djodref the entire time.
Mean?
I lynched mafia dude. Either you think Gigs and Djo are both town in which case why would I as scum be looking for another lynch if they are both town.
Or you think only one of the two is town so why the fuck would I have not pushed the town lynch.
Or you think they are all scum then why the fuck would it be relevant that I was looking for another lynch target so I immediately jump on another scummer.
Like casting doubt on my alignment the way you do in that post makes no fucking sense.
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On March 21 2014 12:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 12:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why Hopeless and which one of Djo/giggle and why? Help me out because i can see reasons for all of them to be mafia but i don't know who is and who isn't. I pointed out that weird hopeless post earlier and the fact that he was answering all of dp's statements for him with weird 1 liners in response to me but apart from that it's little things (like the content of his post - get it- little) 1) original stupid shit on me when he didn't know a thing he was talking about 2) didn't mention anything to do with coag/you scenario - just mentioned coag gonna get policied every game and nothing else 3) does more answers for other players: Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 19 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote: First and foremost, these 3 things do not go together. Palmar likes DP's post, thinks it's good logic (wut?) and then states later that it had nothing to do with rayns alignment, it was an observation from DP that he liked. He still sticks by this despite me saying that this is something rayn does as either alignment and DP SHOULD know that. It was super weird to point out from DP and even more weird for Palmar to like despite everything that had already happened. Not to mention, DP further calls that post a "joke" but Palmar still likes it despite him admitting it said nothing of value.
You pointing out rayn does this as either alignment is completely irrelevant, I already said it wasn't alignment indicative which is essentially the same thing. Remember that story I told earlier about refusing to lynch a townie based on a post 5 minutes into the game? The post's contents were "lolol". There was literally nothing else in the post. There is no connection between "Palmar likes a post" and "Palmar thinks this post provides something of value". If I thought DP had a good point, I'd have said so. All I said was that I liked the post, it looked like something written by a townie. The "solid logic" is a tounge in cheek post. why are you so serious HF? he's either buddying (scummy) or inferring things about your posts that aren't there (possibly scummy). whats your game history like with HF? 4) meta's me based off of one game despite playing with me as scum in another 5) Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 11:46 Hopeless1der wrote: i cant do that thrawn. rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read. p.s. i'm going to bed now. this useless crap 6) Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote: coag for seal HF for being dense and altogether not useful rayn for being rayn palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him
town read dp on first 7 pages of filter when already expressed that first 7 pages of dp's filter are totally full of shit 7) admits he hasnt actually read the town games on me so has no idea what he's talking about - still maintains i am scum 8) explains how koshi was explaining about coag being town all early game which means he read that thing and had no reads from it whatsoever otherthan coag being town after he flipped 9) wants a response from giggle, gets a response, sheeps ve on something that giggle said ve didn't read about but doesn't mention his own view but adds the caveat that maybe giggle isn't scum Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 20 2014 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm saying that if GT is town, then he can't possibly believe that the "scooby doo nonsense" is not productive as it has led him to his best and only scumread. He can't POSSIBLY believe it as town. So I think he's scum just making up bullshit, to either cover for a scumbuddy or buy credibility if/when Hopeless flips town. well then again he could be calling it scummy []ibecause its "useless" still votes giggle because of you and palmar, admits later it's self preservation instead even though no votes on him 10) Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote: Scum DP has not, so page count is a justifiable method of meta reading him. defends dp more and more, posts for him more and more, agrees that i look weird (i responded about it) Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 00:14 Holyflare wrote:On March 21 2014 00:04 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 20 2014 23:38 DarthPunk wrote: Holy is acting really weird by hard defending Vivax like this IMO agree with this btw I'm not even really defending him i just don't have the information you all have i just have the link rayn posted so it looked super weird. It's not until he explained giggle had posted since his stuff on thrawn that it made sense and i provided the most logical reason for a scum vivax out of everything because everything else was just "it's a lie" which doesn't define an alignment. To +1 this after you just witnessed me bus my entire team day 1 in culture and you played scum with me in lxiii where i also bussed heavily. You agree with this point? I would heavily implicate myself in a scum lynch like that? You are super scummy with these interjections hopeless didnt say anything back 11)has 3 pages of filter pre-vivax lynch, it's 8 now with no content most of it defending djo based on nothing? 12)says he had a weak scum read on giggle despite voting him, admits that he's feeling good about giggle and thinks djo is a mislynch after agreeing with my lynch order that includes giggle, djo and himself but not me (lol) Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 09:12 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 21 2014 09:09 Palmar wrote:On March 21 2014 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 21 2014 09:05 Palmar wrote:On March 21 2014 09:03 Hopeless1der wrote: WHY DOES THE DJO LOGIC APPLY TO ME HOLY Because you agreed to lynch giggle, helping him gain more votes than djo. why am i expected to go after djo? is that not the premise of his accusation? No HF's point is based on djo flipping mafia. And he's saying you joined the opposite wagon to protect Djo your scumbuddy. oh okay, so i can safely ignore this until djo flips mafia, which imo he wont. [/i]
This case is trash.
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it's not a case it's a run through of his filter
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but glad you disagree and think hopeless is top town entity!
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Could holy be scum after all?
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hopelss IS town though. i'd think that would be obvious
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On March 21 2014 12:50 thrawn2112 wrote: hopelss IS town though. i'd think that would be obvious
why is that?
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On March 21 2014 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you are saying DarthPunk tried to lynch tehpoofer. When it gains no traction he hesitates to join on Giggletummy wagon and when i make a case on Vivax, DarthPunk insta-sheeps me without even knowing fully what the case is about??
Really Holyflare, this is what you are suggesting?
LOL
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already displayed that that's wrong dp. that is why doing a catch up is terrible
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On March 21 2014 12:53 Holyflare wrote: already displayed that that's wrong dp. that is why doing a catch up is terrible
Literally you say things like 'This guy is confirmed mafia',' I have disproven this or that.' When in fact he isn't and you haven't and all you do is talk shit.
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please point to those factless instances
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and who is mafia man? still not answered, apart from the prophecy (you can include yourself in the list)
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On March 21 2014 09:56 Hopeless1der wrote: i honestly have no idea wtf holy is diong atm this game
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On March 21 2014 12:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 12:50 thrawn2112 wrote: hopelss IS town though. i'd think that would be obvious why is that?
mainly because he's been pretty harmless and has tried to cooperate in his own hopeless1der kind of way. the way he sheeps looks a lot more like town sheeping than scum sheeping
but my own subjective reasoning is that during that conversation where vivax and I argued about reads, he tried to convince me hopeless was mafia. the arguments he brought up didn't even make me me reconsider my read, and if hopeless is mafia, then vivax WOULD have been able to at least make me doubt hopeless's alignment, because vivax would know exactly why hopeless was mafia.
same reason tehpoofter is town. (not just because of the timing of vivax's thrawn push and tehpoofter push) vivax's case for a scum tehpoofter was extremely weak, and if he was bussing it wouldn't have been extremly weak because vivax would have had the extra information needed to know why tehpoofter was mafia. his hopeless and tehpoofter cases were shitty cases because they were cases made by mafia about townies.
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so you're saying "is holy ACTUALLY scum this game" which implies you think i'm town being retarded, then all of these posts and quotes are used to discredit me instead of actually finding out who is scum
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so what do you think of slam thrawn?
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On March 21 2014 13:00 Holyflare wrote: so you're saying "is holy ACTUALLY scum this game" which implies you think i'm town being retarded, then all of these posts and quotes are used to discredit me instead of actually finding out who is scum
In honestly wasn't sure at all. Sadly I think you are quite capable of this crap as town, as I have stated numerous times already. IN fact my initial thought was that you were just crap town. But the more and more you shit up the thread and make crap cases and make no sense the more likely I think it is that you are mafia.
Especailly after you hard defended the mafia roleblocker for ages by attacking me, and the entire lynch, and then limply stumbling onto the wagon at the last minute.
You keep asking people to catch scum, but literally all you have done this game is attack myself and hopeless who are both likely town since the beginning of the game and not ceased. You have shat up the thread with a tunnel that you promised to stop and have not stopped. I am pretty sure you just fake claimed vigilante and then backed down in like 15 minutes from that claim and you seem incapable of doing anything but trashing myself and hopeless.
You keep saying other peoples filters are crap, or filled with shit. But I can assure you that your filter is the most useless scummy piece of crap in this game and you have accomplished exactly nothing aside from park your vote on me from the first 5 minutes of the game and argue against a scum lynch.
So yeah. I am wondering if you could be scum after all because I am not sure that even you could be this awful.
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You said you were interested in holyflares case and that you were going to filter me. You have not mentioned it since. What became of that filter dive. Surely after reading a longish filter there is something to talk about.
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scum holyflare argues against scum vivax with 9 people on a wagon, do i do that as scum or would i gain free cred and silently bus?
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On March 21 2014 04:49 Vivax wrote: I'm still not caught up with the thread, I'm also tired today, and I don't see how I can save myself from this lynch.
I give up and I don't want to play this game anymore, I'm tired of getting called scum whenever I have a life outside of this fucking game compared to people like rayn. Get this over with and I hope it's going to make you feel extremely satisfacted to see me flipping green you bad bastards.
Hope scum wins this game, this town doesn't deserve to win. I gave you scum on a silver plate and you rejected it for some shitty reasoning.
I think this might have been true and that's why he is actually angry (poofter scum? :OOOOOO)
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