Liquipedia App Notifications

Xeofreestyler

Belgium6775 Posts

July 08 2024 10:18 GMT

I was wondering who's in charge of the Liquipedia app. I particularly like the notifications it gives for various games & leagues and was wondering if it would be possible to add the same for Smash Melee.

Viewership for Melee has been declining over the last few years (even though tournament numbers are up) and I think a part of it is a lack of centralized information on when and where tournament streams take place.

I'm consulting meleemajors.gg and the idea of phone notifications came up, so rather than making an app from scratch I figured working together with Liquipedia would make more sense.

hjpalpha

Germany339 Posts

August 08 2024 04:42 GMT

hey,

not responsible for the app but having some information on why smash isn't on the app yet.

The app functions by pulling data from the Liquipedia wikis own database, called LiquipediaDB.
That DB also helps us automate quite a lot on the wikis, e.g. the results tables on team/player pages etc pp are mostly generated automatically by data from that DB.

The app relies on the data being standardized and normalized, so that is a hard prerequisite for a wiki/game being considered for the app.
We started a big standardization process years ago and by now maintain the most important modules for most wikis via a git repository: https://github.com/Liquipedia/Lua-Modules
Part of the standardization is to move to a new more sophisticated match system (brackets, matchlists, ...) with standardized data.

Due to smash wiki (and smash-like wikis, fighters and brawlhalla) being far from standard data wise (in the past) it takes considerably more resources to bring the wiki(s) and its/their data in line for being fit for the app.
To not have tons of bugs on the smash wiki we decided to go from small to big for smash-like wikis.
That means that we (mostly Rathoz) first implement the new match system for smash-like wikis on brawlhalla and after that on fighters wiki.
Currently we are basically beta testing it there.
Implementation for smash is planned.

For all data from the wikis to be available for the app first all old pages have to store the standard data.
Mind that converting all the old pages to use the new stuff is gonna be quite complicated for smash-like wikis too.
Usually we could just write a wrapper module that converts the input into a usable format for the new system and then call the new system with the pre parsed input.
But due to some additional technicalities on smash-like wikis (the old brackets setting prize pool data directly) it isn't so easy on smash-like wikis. (The standardized prize pools together with standardized brackets and group tables can automatically populate the prize pools, but the setup on old pages would have to be changed for that to work there too.)

To summarize: smash-like wikis were/are far from standard which is why it takes considerably longer to bring them onto the LP app.

Sincerly,
-- hjpalpha, LP volunteer Admin (i also help with the standardization process)

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