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Promethelax
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On February 05 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: He WAS a lurker at the start of the game when prome defended him But I like Artanis most as a person and will enjoy playing with him most, after my last game I'm going for having fun because, in case you couldn't tell, I did not have a lot of fun last game. | ||
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marvellosity
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On February 05 2014 05:55 Promethelax wrote: Lsb any chance you can sit down and give comprehensive reads on art/Rayn/ceph/HF those are the players I am most interested in lynching right now and I would like your thoughts on them. You are replacing into a generally townie slot but it is early enough I the game that I still have some concerns about you (unfairly all of these concerns are because Imp replaced out). Please walk me through your reads on these four players. Ceph has two posts, both of which say he may or may not post later. He is a lurker. Artanis- Talked about above. He has been lurking hard compared to what he usually does. HF- Last game I was in with him was Titanic and he was basically doing the same thing. Stirring up things and trying to generate activity. Rayn- seems too overconfident to be scum. I haven't seen him play as scum though so I don't know if this is normal. I'm cool with a lurker lynch on day 1, though I'd rather go with WoS | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:07 LSB wrote: Ceph has two posts, both of which say he may or may not post later. He is a lurker. Artanis- Talked about above. He has been lurking hard compared to what he usually does. HF- Last game I was in with him was Titanic and he was basically doing the same thing. Stirring up things and trying to generate activity. Rayn- seems too overconfident to be scum. I haven't seen him play as scum though so I don't know if this is normal. I'm cool with a lurker lynch on day 1, though I'd rather go with WoS Go check out ## mafia played a couple months back and come back to me on that one | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
I can't help but notice none of those are conclusions. Why wave? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On February 05 2014 05:59 marvellosity wrote: Artanis isn't a lurker. If he hasn't posted by the end of the day (as in, the 24 hour day today) he's given up as mafia. If he does post, he is probably still mafia but we can reassess. He hasn't said anything substantial that's why I'm classifying him as a lurker. | ||
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Promethelax
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marvellosity
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Promethelax
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 05 2014 03:32 Holyflare wrote: I think what I said "made sense" in a way because that is what a normal reaction is (DP isn't normal  PPP). It's less about my stance on DP and more about why Wave has taken the totally OPPOSITE point of view (in comparison to 3 people that shared the view) and compared it to a case that I thought had very little relevance. I used that post as a way to get to the bottom of what wave is thinking in this game as I know he likes to conspiracy theorise and come up with whacky situations based on nothing and I wanted to know if that was the case here.lol I'm scum because I didn't agree with you and 3 other people? Read Shadow game again, bro. And as far as 'normal' reactions go, where does VE fit on that spectrum of yours? Personally I think I just read people better than you and you're a little salty aboot it. Catching up. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote: lol I'm scum because I didn't agree with you and 3 other people? Read Shadow game again, bro. And as far as 'normal' reactions go, where does VE fit on that spectrum of yours? Personally I think I just read people better than you and you're a little salty aboot it. Catching up. No that reaction does not make you scum, it's just odd in a non alignment indicative way, like I literally stated in that post you linked. Your thought processes and thread presence does make you scum to me though. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 05 2014 04:07 LSB wrote: Midway through the thread but I wanted to post this first. Reads will come after I'm done with the thread This seems obvious to me but it is pretty important There isn't a LYLO in this game. Even if it is 3v2 and we mislynch, the player has the chance to kill a mafia and keep the game going. The only way the mafia can win is to stir up emotions in the town. In fact this is why I don't think we should have people say who they would shoot. This paints a big target on their back for the mafia as "Should we push this guy" or "Should we take the pressure off of him". After all to the mafia there is no difference between lynching a mafia, and lynching a town who would shoot mafia. LSB I love your plans. And yeah I had forgotten about that; a mislynch at 4v3 means we're still in it if we shoot scum. Still don't think we have anything resembling proper vig in this game (from my earlier comment somewhere in my filter about LYLO). Still reading. Will stop posting until fully caught up sorry, | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:10 Promethelax wrote: For a scum Rayn look at ## mafia I can't help but notice none of those are conclusions. Why wave? Because he has been playing a little to much "lets get on people's good sides" to me. This post stands out to me On February 05 2014 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Maybe because you weren't in that game you don't REALLY know, but I am way more aggressive (see Artanis vote/push) in this game compared to Shadow and I believe I stand out more as well. And the reverse about emotion----I was way more emotional in Shadow game than this one as well. I can't tell whether I should expect you to realize that or not...meh. And considering this is his pushpost On February 04 2014 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote: This sort of gives the same idea I'm trying to get across but not quite. Essentially it comes down to there being absolutely no reason to claim scum as town, even to joke---seems much more likely to me to come from a mafia standpoint to introduce WIFOM into the thread at best, shit things up a little at worst and somewhere in the middle they get to brag if they win. And before anyone asks again, yes I am completely serious. I'm gettin' them feels. This is super early and there hasn't been much in thread to give me other feels right now so it's what I'm going with atm. ##Unvote ##Vote: Artanis I don't see him trying to be aggressive, more of a fake attempt to stand out, but at the same time not get on anyone's bad side. Also, especially in this format I am very worried about tying two people together especially if they seem to think the other is mafia, and he has been doing that with DP/HF | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 05 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote: Like my thought process would be. Oh Holyflare said some good points about artanis ("vote artanis"), I think artanis is scummy so holyflare is probably right etc etc +town points for pointing it out and discussion! Oh, some rage is going on in thread, someone asked me who my reads are let's respond! Hmm, sooo, the guy that actually started some discussion and made me vote for who i am voting for is probably a + in my books rather than scummy, then there's the afkers and the guy i'm voting for sooooo yeh that guy who made me vote for my target is ok in my books that would be logical, however, out of nowhere BAM holy/artanis/dp??????????????????? Hey, guess what? Read the thread. The question I was asked was 'Which of the players who have posted feel the least towny?' Not "ZOMG LIST SCUM PLZ" I have never called you scum this game, not even once, and for some reason you have gotten it in your head that I'm after you because you hadn't done anything at that point in the game for me to find you specifically towny. This prompts a filter dive once I'm done, because that's honestly a horrible reason to start in on me, and your other reasons for suspicion haven't been fantastic either. K no more posting till donez fo realz + Show Spoiler + brainz | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:09 marvellosity wrote: Go check out ## mafia played a couple months back and come back to me on that one On February 05 2014 06:10 Promethelax wrote: For a scum Rayn look at ## mafia I can't help but notice none of those are conclusions. Why wave? I can't seem to find the game you are talking about. Could you link it to me? Also I'll probably be gone for the next few hours | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:23 LSB wrote: I can't seem to find the game you are talking about. Could you link it to me? Also I'll probably be gone for the next few hours http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504&user=raynpelikoneet | ||
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Holyflare
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
K. Holy are you taking the place of tunnelRayn in this game? Are you going to make me fight with you and try to bash it through your thick skull that I am not scum? Because I'll do it, and it won't be pretty. And if it turns out you're scum, I'll even do it so well that you'll be forced to back down and find another mislynch. How does that sound bbygrl? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey, guess what? Read the thread. The question I was asked was 'Which of the players who have posted feel the least towny?' Not "ZOMG LIST SCUM PLZ" I have never called you scum this game, not even once, and for some reason you have gotten it in your head that I'm after you because you hadn't done anything at that point in the game for me to find you specifically towny. This prompts a filter dive once I'm done, because that's honestly a horrible reason to start in on me, and your other reasons for suspicion haven't been fantastic either. K no more posting till donez fo realz + Show Spoiler + brainz I know what you were asked. The fact you followed my reasoning and voted the target that I made should exclude me and artanis being in any sort of list you made altogether. You valued prome for a post of his saying "yeh everyone talking is totes town" despite the fact it was at like 3am EU time and so his only targets weren't lurkers they were just asleep europeans. Your other example was DP, despite you posting why his rage IS TOWNY. Why would you disagree with the point I made about his rage being from scum and then backtrack to put him in that top list of people that are talking? That didn't make sense either. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 05 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote: wave confirmed town I wish this were serious, because it would the upcoming filter dive even more fun for me. | ||
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