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marvellosity
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WaveofShadow
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On February 05 2014 10:07 marvellosity wrote: I'd like to lynch Cephiro to shoot rayn, probably. Even though quite possibly Cephiro's alignment might be a little bit more of a mystery. I'd just... like to know rayn's alignment with more certainty given he has more posts and interactions in the thread. I was actually thinking up some form of this but I'm old and my synapses clearly aren't as sexy as marv's. Alright so we have 3 votes on Artanis right now, we are within lynch territory in theory. I think it's too early to try to hammer (hence unvote) because not having Cephiro do a whole lot today and not having Artanis come back means we may not learn as much as we could...also a lot of people in general haven't committed to anything one way or another. At what point do we ##YOLO? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On February 05 2014 10:07 Promethelax wrote: Just in case what? Mafia come in and claim scum with bad votes in IML? Why would you want to prevent that? Don't want day to end prematurely in case somebody gets an itchy trigger finger. + Show Spoiler + Plus I want to pull the trigger  | ||
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On February 04 2014 20:09 DarthPunk wrote: Anyway. As I said I'm not posting again until someone besides marv is here. Whatever happened to DP? | ||
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marvellosity
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LSB
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On February 05 2014 10:12 marvellosity wrote: We don't yolo until 48 hours are up, give or take. Everyone should have more time. There are day limits? I don't think there is any in the OP And no I don't want a 100 hour day 1 | ||
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Promethelax
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On February 05 2014 10:35 LSB wrote: There are day limits? I don't think there is any in the OP And no I don't want a 100 hour day 1 72 hours is the day limit. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On February 05 2014 10:35 Promethelax wrote: Where I live 'chirp' means to insult someone. Essentially 'to talk shit' and a chirpy person is someone who talks a lot of shit about other people. I meant tweeting like a happy lil bird :x | ||
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marvellosity
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On February 05 2014 10:36 Promethelax wrote: Wait, where the fuck did I read that? It isn't in the OP. in yamato's PM, but they changed it | ||
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Hapahauli
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There is NO day time limit. However the hosts reserve the right to set a deadline should things get out of hand (i.e. 2 week day w/out discussion). | ||
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Aquanim
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Artanis[Xp] (2) - WaveofShadow (2) - Holyflare, LSB Holyflare (1) - Artanis[Xp], marvellosity (1) - raynpelikoneet (0) - DarthPunk (0) - Promethelax (0) - Not Voting - raynpelikoneet, Cephiro, WaveofShadow If any votes have been missed, please let us know! With 9 players remaining, 5 votes are required to lynch. | ||
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DarthPunk
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Also this post was incredibly pro town and seemed very genuine at the time. He is my number 1 town read so far. On February 05 2014 02:04 Promethelax wrote: marv is super obviously town. For meta reasons. Like what is the point of this post prome? You are calling marv town but super obvious for meta reasons does not explain anything about the read or your thought processes. What are the super obvious meta reasons. Which town games of his has he used those meta tells? Has he NEVER used those meta tells as scum? If you are going to base a read off of meta entirely then please explain so those of us who are not meta savant's can understand wtf you are talking about. On February 05 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote: Bold and red don't really go together. Try again. This is a really good catch by marv. Really doesn't make sense. On February 05 2014 02:13 Promethelax wrote: He would do that because you, the person, annoy him. As is clear from his posts about you in various thread recent;y. In pregame didn't he say "oh great, another thread with DP talking bollocks in it" not word for word but that was the general idea and here you are talking bullocks about him being scum when anyone who knows how to read marv knows he is town right now. This is the towniest filter I've seen from marv when he was playing under his main. If you are allowed to unreasonably rage at people for not bowing to your whim about how they approach the game marv is also allowed to get mad at people for calling his scum play bad (i.e. easy to catch) and following that up by failing to find him town when he is obviously town. Yet he continued to say it wasn't personal. You are right though, it clearly was personal, but w/e it's in the past and if he wants to talk about how bad I am he can do it post game or PM me. Yet again you are calling marv obviously town but have given like zero reasons for it. Why is he super obviously town. Like I feel like you are just saying that because if you called him suspicious then he would shit on you for it or something. What are the reasons that marv is super obviously town? On February 05 2014 02:20 Promethelax wrote: There are three scum. I happen to think that marv/dp/iamp/wos are town as am I. So that leaves me with four players who could be scum and of them two have not posted. So I am pretty damn sure at least one of the two players who haven't posted are scum. I didn't spell it out earlier but it makes perfect sense. Why is this a hard concept to follow? No reasoning for any of these reads. Why is Iamp town? why is DP town? why is WoS town? if you are going to use PoE then you need to convince others beyond doubt on your town reads, but you have literally explained nothing. OK seems like rayn called you out on having town reads based on nothing. (more townie points for rayn) On February 05 2014 02:34 Promethelax wrote: I don't know that I could tell you the thing he would say word for word. In fact I know I could not say it. But his tone has been super town marv which it never was the last time. Was that question unnecessary? Probably. Do I have a read on marv which I believe is accurate? Yes. Was that question part of what helped me find my read on marv? Yes. Is your issue pointless? Yes. This still says nothing. Your entire explanation for your super obvious town read on marv is his 'tone' but you take a billion words to say it. If it is that hard to explain it really isn't super obvious is it? OK this On February 05 2014 02:32 Promethelax wrote: I read everything he posted and had found it not alignment indicative. Given that it was ~6 hours into d1 I figured I'd keep the guy I liked more and would wait for him to show up to have a chit chat with and see if I could read him. Not like I'm advocating a lynch of anyone RIGHT NOW. I'm advocating a lynch of one of these four dudes and placing pressure on the ones I know less well/have a harder time reading. I see no issue here, why do you? Makes sense. I have done similar things when people were calling goodkarma scum before. On February 05 2014 02:55 marvellosity wrote: Specifically this post. Paragraph 1: some explanation that means nothing. Fine, whatever. Paragraph 2: He finds Wave scummy maybe? Smelly? But it speaks in general terms "if a game" - not Wave's game,"a" game. Paragraph 3: he's "curious" why I find rayn scummy. Why is he curious? I explained clearly in my case on rayn and in followup posts precisely why I was suspicious of rayn. What does his curiosity of me mean for my alignment? He even says he likes one of my points on rayn, yet is curious. He follows up this point with a whole series of wishy washy posts about "point 2 and 3" of my case that he never quotes and eventually backs weirdly down from. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkk Yeah I agree with this. Artanis does seem different to very small mini. That is the only town game of his I have ever read though so I will probs go reads some more of his town reads to see. On February 05 2014 03:03 Promethelax wrote: marv. I doubt you'll listen to me on this but you should, DP doesn't need to be antagonized anymore. He is probably town and he is liable to explode due to rage. At the end of the game you can bring it up that DP does not know how to read you as town or scum and that is fine but it isn't doing anything to benefit this town here and now. DP doesn't need it. You don't need it. More importantly the thread really doesn't need it. Let DP calm down and just ignore him unless you actually need to call him scum, mmmkay? This is a good post and would make me think prome was townie but then On February 05 2014 02:13 Promethelax wrote: He would do that because you, the person, annoy him. As is clear from his posts about you in various thread recent;y. In pregame didn't he say "oh great, another thread with DP talking bollocks in it" not word for word but that was the general idea and here you are talking bullocks about him being scum when anyone who knows how to read marv knows he is town right now. This is the towniest filter I've seen from marv when he was playing under his main. If you are allowed to unreasonably rage at people for not bowing to your whim about how they approach the game marv is also allowed to get mad at people for calling his scum play bad (i.e. easy to catch) and following that up by failing to find him town when he is obviously town. It doesn't really seem genuine when he had just previously said something to further a shitfest that had clearly died. THAT is Fucking scummy as shit. He is making a contribution that doesn't provide reads, is easy to fake as scum, But MOST IMPORTANTLY does not gel with the narrative of what he has done. He just made a post that could easily have opened a can of worms that had been obviously closed, and then he takes the high road in order to preserve 'town atmosphere' or something. Doesn't make sense. On February 05 2014 03:28 Holyflare wrote: This is also why I think prome is actually scum. He keeps harping on with rhetoric about "the heart of the thread is towny guys!" and "I love you allllllllllll let's lynch dem Good. this is exactly right. His town reads come from nowhere are really strong and when asked to explain them he basically doesn't or can't Town points for HF. On February 05 2014 03:33 Promethelax wrote: Wave is pretty town actually. His vote doesn't matter that much. It's early game and I don't care where his vote is until it comes down to someone actually being lynched. So you agree with me/Marv/DP/iamperfection being town? Your only issue is with wave? Why??? On February 05 2014 03:37 Promethelax wrote: Reads 1. Prome, Marv 2. Iamp, wave, DP 3. Rayn 4. Art 5. HF, ceph These are not reads. If I read this post I see numbers and names but I don't know why they are there or how you arrived at your conclusions. On February 05 2014 04:00 Holyflare wrote: Your last 2 points on him about having wrong reasons are like quintessential any alignment rayn though he just calls people scum/town with no reason all the time. I liked the fact that he was trying to get you and DP to stop and actually start making cases because you were clogging up the thread with useless crap at that point, if he was mafia he'd perpetuate that or just sit back and let you get out of hand (something you even mentioned at the start would be great for scum). Yay! I agree with this toooo. Holyflare is town read number two. On February 05 2014 04:04 Holyflare wrote: Lists are dumb. Scummy people: Wave, Prome, Cephiro (haven't checked artanis enough to put him in any list yet) Towny: Me, marv, probably add DP in here too now (not totally convinced on iamp because I haven't ever played with him) Wat? lists are dumb, here is a list. That has to be intentional. Right? Right guys? Oh lsb replaced in. He basically said nothing. minus townie points. On February 05 2014 05:19 marvellosity wrote: 1.marv (2.LSB) 3.DP 4.Prome 5.Wave 6.Holy 7.Cephiro 8.rayn 9.Artanis Holy down two, LSB position sadly on hold. Damnit iamp. God what is with these dumb lists? at least I have some idea of why marvs' reads are where they are due to his other posts. On February 05 2014 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno. Maybe marv is mafia. I have never seen town!marv not read the thread properly, especially when he talks about his scumread. What? Don't call marv obviously town for no reason and then call him scummy again. That is fucking bullshit. If your can change that fast how was he obviously town in the first place? On February 05 2014 05:43 marvellosity wrote: I mean if you think Artanis is mafia then you have no grounds to be asking why I am "so bad" this game when the person I want to kill you also think is mafia. That is also odd. God I hope you actually are town this game rayn. On February 05 2014 05:59 Holyflare wrote: you favour promethelax the guy who says "all the guys who are posting must be town huehuehue" with no reasoning and no logic who wants to shoot into lurkers and he actually had a BIAS on who to shoot (cephiro) between the 2 lurkers and he is also the guy that DEFENDED your top scum read (artanis) by saying, no no he's a claimed scum lurker but i can read him - let's keep him in the game please. marv you aren't this bad Yeah, this is good. Holyflare is obviously town at this point. On February 05 2014 06:13 Promethelax wrote: Well poo to you. I'm heading out for a while. Do me the kindness of figuring out why lsb thinks wave is the best lynch please and thank you. Also please do filter dive me and bring your findings to the thread, I'm tired of HF finding me scummy for no reason and would prefer to talk to someone with a brain about how I appear in the thread. This is not what is happening there are very legitimate reasons for finding you scummy. You are giving out town reads from thin air with no justifcation and then when asked to justify them you still don't do it. that IS scummy. Sleep. | ||
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