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Risen
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justanothertownie
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On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote: JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch. On October 01 2013 23:31 justanothertownie wrote: In any case Stutters is mocking town with his promises. I know what this is... | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me. I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler). | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:58 justanothertownie wrote: This is going to be hard. Mocsta are you still there? If yes, how long? I have to find out if I want to lynch you or one of FT, Stutters and iamp. Too many options... Yes i am here. Dunno how long. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 26 2013 10:36 iamperfection wrote: ceph bothered to show up lone didn't even bother to look up the deadline. On September 26 2013 09:25 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: Also voting for LoneMeow now, as it doesn't seem any other lynch is going to happen. ##vote LoneMeow iamp clearly has a double-standard at the end of the day two lynch. Earlier in the cycle, he mentioned that he doesn't have a preference between the two and that he has decided to sheep marv because he trusts his judgement. While ceph does return before the deadline, he doesn't post anything of value, stating that he would be open to a deconduo switch, which wasn't happening. He votes LoneMeow because he is really the only choice to save himself. On September 26 2013 10:47 iamperfection wrote: lone your obviously here if all your going to do is vote and afk i will kill you. However, when Lone actually does show up, he attacks him for the Cephiro vote. When LoneMeow comes up with the Doctor claim, iamp immediately distrusts his claim. LoneMeow is claiming Doctor when he is not even leading the lynch and a multi-vote swap would be necessary, like I pointed out earlier. Notice how he decides LoneMeow is lying even before he looks back through the filter to see if there is any mention of yamato. He has made his decision ahead of looking for evidence. He refuses to consider the alternative that LoneMeow could be telling the truth and never provides an explanation of why he would lie in this situation if he didn't need the votes to survive. I think a town iamp wouldn't be so suddenly decisive on a situation he was so wishy washy for most of the day. He seems to have something to gain on day two, by pushing the last minute swing so strongly. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote: It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me. I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler). You are an absolute moron. I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now. Fucken imbecile you are. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:11 kitaman27 wrote: As an aside: Does this not mean something for Deconduo alignment?My biggest issue with iamp is his actions during day two and I definitely think he is mafia. iamp clearly has a double-standard at the end of the day two lynch. Earlier in the cycle, he mentioned that he doesn't have a preference between the two and that he has decided to sheep marv because he trusts his judgement. While ceph does return before the deadline, he doesn't post anything of value, stating that he would be open to a deconduo switch, which wasn't happening. He votes LoneMeow because he is really the only choice to save himself. + Show Spoiler + On September 26 2013 10:47 iamperfection wrote: lone your obviously here if all your going to do is vote and afk i will kill you. However, when Lone actually does show up, he attacks him for the Cephiro vote. When LoneMeow comes up with the Doctor claim, iamp immediately distrusts his claim. LoneMeow is claiming Doctor when he is not even leading the lynch and a multi-vote swap would be necessary, like I pointed out earlier. Notice how he decides LoneMeow is lying even before he looks back through the filter to see if there is any mention of yamato. He has made his decision ahead of looking for evidence. He refuses to consider the alternative that LoneMeow could be telling the truth and never provides an explanation of why he would lie in this situation if he didn't need the votes to survive. I think a town iamp wouldn't be so suddenly decisive on a situation he was so wishy washy for most of the day. He seems to have something to gain on day two, by pushing the last minute swing so strongly. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:12 kitaman27 wrote: The thing about Mocsta that worries me is that he is so open to any of the other lynch candidates. Anything that will save him from biting the bullet seems to be fine with him. Why is that a problem? I am not a serious lynch candidate; no one has even made a case other than VE. Do you think the way I have been following up on my reads is scum-like? Do you think what I pushed to Rayn about FT was bullshit made up on the spot, or nitpicking to find flaws in bad play? And why would town want to be mislynched? Either alignment wants to be saved from the noose. Frankly, kitamin/oberyn, i expected a bit more common sense coming from you. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though. | ||
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justanothertownie
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:17 Mocsta wrote: And why would town want to be mislynched? Either alignment wants to be saved from the noose. Frankly, kitamin/oberyn, i expected a bit more common sense coming from you. It's not that my problem is that you would support another lynch candidate, it's that you would support every other lynch candidate. I'm still not sure enough on you that I'd want to lynch you over FT though. | ||
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justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:12 kitaman27 wrote: The thing about Mocsta that worries me is that he is so open to any of the other lynch candidates. Anything that will save him from biting the bullet seems to be fine with him. I understood this as points in favor of you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:21 justanothertownie wrote: Is iamp a good townie generally? If yes I think I prefer to lynch him over FT. FT is a horrible townie and I am still not entirely sure if this or scum FT is the case. Yes, iamp is amongst the best on TL. Especially in proving his towniness as town. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:21 justanothertownie wrote: Is iamp a good townie generally? If yes I think I prefer to lynch him over FT. FT is a horrible townie and I am still not entirely sure if this or scum FT is the case. iamp is an excellent townie from my experience. He is a common n1 or n2 mafia hit. What makes you prefer iamp over FT? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote: FT > iamp > Mocsta > Stutters > deconduo is my current preference out of the top five. I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though. You know what is completely retarded about this? On October 02 2013 00:11 kitaman27 wrote: Notice how he decides LoneMeow is lying even before he looks back through the filter to see if there is any mention of yamato. He has made his decision ahead of looking for evidence. He refuses to consider the alternative that LoneMeow could be telling the truth and never provides an explanation of why he would lie in this situation if he didn't need the votes to survive. I think a town iamp wouldn't be so suddenly decisive on a situation he was so wishy washy for most of the day. He seems to have something to gain on day two, by pushing the last minute swing so strongly. Applies directly to me -> I believed the doc claim initially until others cast out irregularities. Yet iamp is scum for the action above; and I am scum for the OPPOSITE of the action above. Thats retarded. And if you are too lazy to filter dive. On September 26 2013 10:51 Mocsta wrote: This is such a poorly timed claim. You werent going to be lynched, as you had a 2 vote lead.. hence you needed 3 new votes. now your dead end of night.. well done. On September 26 2013 10:52 Mocsta wrote: I believed the claim, quite clearly.Its real Its why i said hes goign to get shot (or RB'd is prob wiser) in the end, hes completely useless VT now.. it wasnt required. After iamp/CC comment about the yamato thing, i check it myself. On September 26 2013 10:56 Mocsta wrote: I had already taken issue publicly with LoneMeow not voting Cephiro, and had heavy suspicion on Geript. That led to the big play AS TOWN.Yep, jsut checked lone filter. no yamato + he was against chairman lynch (which yam was proposing) so we have a problem houston + he questions cephiro for lurking, yet wouldnt vote him prior. ##vote: lonemeow[/b geript vote on cepphiro is a major problem. [B]On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote: So iamp and me both scum right? LOL....OK. I DOC'D YAM everyone, pile onto lonemeow. | ||
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justanothertownie
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