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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 01 2013 14:37 GMT
#5421
Seriously guys, stutters CANT be town. The only reason he hasn't gotten votes today is because he is scum, and scum don't want to push him.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:39 GMT
#5422
Read through some filters, and I've settled on stutters. Everything else can be explained by town players playing like scum, but stutters hasn't made a single pro-town post all game.

##unvote
##vote: Stutters695


Seriously folks, look at his filter (all 2 and a smidgen pages of it)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2013 14:39 GMT
#5423
I will vote for Stutters if people are dumb enough to not vote for iamp.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 01 2013 14:40 GMT
#5424
On October 01 2013 13:38 FirmTofu wrote:
"trademark post that says nothing" is a generalization. Kita thinks this is scummy because he's seen scum play this way in the past.


What is the purpose of that long post about a night shot if you name 10 different people to consider shooting. Why not simply tell the vig to shoot your number one or two scum read, like you do a couple posts later? You aren't addressing the vig situation like you're saying if you make a list post.

On October 01 2013 13:38 FirmTofu wrote:
"I'm lost count of the number of times a scum player shows up after the lynch only to yell at town for something they showed no interest in preventing" is a generalization. Kita thinks this is scummy because he's seen scum showing up after lynch to yell at town.


Why did you call the lynch retarded if you didn't share a town read on LoneMeow and you stated earlier that Ceph was a bad lynch decision. What is there to get upset about? Rather than passing this off as a generalization, can you address the real point? You didn't exactly put in any effort to push your preference.

On October 01 2013 13:38 FirmTofu wrote:
However, these heuristics simply do not hold true for me. Kita has never played with me and does not know that I play this way as town and scum.


So are you saying that as town, you generally have no interest in convincing others and vote for players that have no chance of being lynched every cycle? I don't see why a meta case is superior to a case that points out mafia tendencies. You said yourself that you play similar as town and mafia, so why should it matter if I've played with you before to be aware of your play?

On October 01 2013 16:37 FirmTofu wrote:
Did anyone notice this in Deconduo's filter?

Votes Cephiro, sounding very confident...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=191#3813
...then switches to geript randomly with a pretty shitty reason when all hell broke loose between the LM and Cephiro lynches.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=200#3981

This is the perfect scum move. It's silent, but it did a good job to guarantee that LM would be lynched instead of Cephiro.


On October 01 2013 17:12 FirmTofu wrote:
Right now, I'd rather kill deconduo. My case on him is a few posts back.


Do you honestly think this "case" is enough to convince everyone that deconduo should be lynched today?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#5425
I don't want to lynch FT anymore... I somehow glossed over the implications of his case on decon. I'd say decon is scum for the same reasons FT just did and kita your calling out of him makes no sense there. We now know cephiro is scum, decon's vote switch off of him onto geript, a confirmed townie (though unconfirmed at the time), is sketch as fuck. The thing that gets me about that post is decon seeing Cephiro react outlandishly to a post and say "Oh totes a town reaction, unvote and get onto geript" for 0 reasoning given. Town doesn't do this. Town doesn't also, earlier in their filter (which is 1 page + 1 post wtf?), call out people for having a 5 vote lynch d1 then leave their vote on geript d2 with two major candidates.

After simmering and going through filters, I want stutters dead. Decon is a VERY close second, though, and for the time being I don't want to see FT lynched.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#5426
It probably is his attempt to not appear on the wagons for the 4th consecutive day.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#5427
EBWOP: I'd probably go so far as to say the case FT made on decon has been more pro-town than just about anything I've done all game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#5428
EBWOP: FTs mentioning of deconduo.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2013 14:48 GMT
#5429
On October 01 2013 23:46 Risen wrote:
I don't want to lynch FT anymore... I somehow glossed over the implications of his case on decon. I'd say decon is scum for the same reasons FT just did and kita your calling out of him makes no sense there. We now know cephiro is scum, decon's vote switch off of him onto geript, a confirmed townie (though unconfirmed at the time), is sketch as fuck. The thing that gets me about that post is decon seeing Cephiro react outlandishly to a post and say "Oh totes a town reaction, unvote and get onto geript" for 0 reasoning given. Town doesn't do this. Town doesn't also, earlier in their filter (which is 1 page + 1 post wtf?), call out people for having a 5 vote lynch d1 then leave their vote on geript d2 with two major candidates.

After simmering and going through filters, I want stutters dead. Decon is a VERY close second, though, and for the time being I don't want to see FT lynched.

That's actually a really good point on deconduo.
What do you think of iamp Risen?
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:48 GMT
#5430
On October 01 2013 23:47 justanothertownie wrote:
It probably is his attempt to not appear on the wagons for the 4th consecutive day.

And that may be the case, but we have someone pointing out scummy play vs someone promising day after day to do things that he just isn't doing. I think the person to lynch here is clear.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:49 GMT
#5431
On October 01 2013 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:46 Risen wrote:
I don't want to lynch FT anymore... I somehow glossed over the implications of his case on decon. I'd say decon is scum for the same reasons FT just did and kita your calling out of him makes no sense there. We now know cephiro is scum, decon's vote switch off of him onto geript, a confirmed townie (though unconfirmed at the time), is sketch as fuck. The thing that gets me about that post is decon seeing Cephiro react outlandishly to a post and say "Oh totes a town reaction, unvote and get onto geript" for 0 reasoning given. Town doesn't do this. Town doesn't also, earlier in their filter (which is 1 page + 1 post wtf?), call out people for having a 5 vote lynch d1 then leave their vote on geript d2 with two major candidates.

After simmering and going through filters, I want stutters dead. Decon is a VERY close second, though, and for the time being I don't want to see FT lynched.

That's actually a really good point on deconduo.
What do you think of iamp Risen?

Why is he alive?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2013 14:51 GMT
#5432
Because he is scum?
He has not done anything to help the town either.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:51 GMT
#5433
EBWOP: That was unfair and paints him as scum. Iamp's reads have been solid this game, to the Risen of today's mind. That's all I can say about him.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:53 GMT
#5434
There's a lot of filler, but there's more substance in his posting than about 95% of my posts prior to my waking up this morning. Not a lynch candidate.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 01 2013 14:53 GMT
#5435
On October 01 2013 23:51 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: That was unfair and paints him as scum. Iamp's reads have been solid this game, to the Risen of today's mind. That's all I can say about him.

Umm no, they havn't. His actions and conclusions from especially the D2 lynch do not look like town!iamp's.
table for two on a tv tray
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:54 GMT
#5436
On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
people that i have no clue or somewhat not sure

stutters- i Have no idea he is almost always useless

Kush- Whiner complainer who knows. Says he is sick which i could see him lying about. See if he actually replaces

Umasi- Still like the point that firm brought up and he really hasn't talked about the game much. some of the things he talked about regarding sent seem weird i guess? Like i don't really understand the point he is trying to make but he seems just as confused as me so hey maybe he is town.

VisceraEyes- Like i dont get his apathy earlier but he has said some things that makes sense botherd to show up and seemed to care about the lynch. Maybe that a sign he is town because he seems somewhat all over the place like his thoughts kind of change pretty fluidly recently with regards to me so could be trying to figure things.

-------------------------------------
Scummers

cephiro- i sheep marv

Decondu- Regardless of what cephiros alignment is i think he is scum. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=191#3813 His reasoning is makes no sense and he never explains even when called out for that crap. After being called out he does absolutely nothing up until the deadline. No discussion no attempts to figure out alignments or establish his innocence. Combine this with terrible activity but ability to be around the lynch apparently. He isn't hunting scum because he is scum.


Sent- this is bad http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=45#888 it was just a long excuse to vote coag for no real reason listing lurkers is even worse than lurkers because it a way to look like your contributing . so is this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=85#1699 say absolutely nothing on a major topic while subtly supporting it and then when he votes for him hes not very clear on why he is scum just he has regressed from an earlier game. Also didn't like his response to the claim. He just immediately believes it and i know he had a town read on him but still townies are naturally supicious he dosnt go look he dosnt freak out much just proclaiming ha i was right fuck you guys i don't see the figuring out of alignments near the deadline


Risen- Hes not contributing he is just calling town bad and has apathy that i think is fake. All he does is shit on town and say herp derp town not listening to me. He isnt trying hard to push lynches. Townies want to lynch scum and it seems he just wants to over exaggerate town mistakes and complain rather than hunt scum.


im also having a hard time finding a ton of definite scum reads so i think its possible that molango slot could be scum or an active scum but i have a hard time finding active scum unless im super familiar with them.


Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 14:55 GMT
#5437
EBWOP I hit post on accident instead of preview.

continuing...

into

On September 30 2013 13:38 iamperfection wrote:
Ve I would have to take a very long look if he actually plans on not commenting and posting his list all day I'll kill him though

Stutters I could kill

Ft no

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 01 2013 14:55 GMT
#5438
Sticking my vote on Stutters.

Risen, what about iamp's reads paints them as solid because I don't see it
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 01 2013 14:56 GMT
#5439
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 01 2013 14:58 GMT
#5440
This is going to be hard. Mocsta are you still there? If yes, how long?

I have to find out if I want to lynch you or one of FT, Stutters and iamp. Too many options...
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