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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 01 2013 15:26 GMT
#5461
I'm not following you Mocsta, are you saying iamp is a good lynch or bad one?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 01 2013 15:27 GMT
#5462
On October 02 2013 00:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:17 Mocsta wrote:
And why would town want to be mislynched? Either alignment wants to be saved from the noose.

Frankly, kitamin/oberyn, i expected a bit more common sense coming from you.


It's not that my problem is that you would support another lynch candidate, it's that you would support every other lynch candidate. I'm still not sure enough on you that I'd want to lynch you over FT though.

Or how about, I have made cases on Stutters, iamp, FT that I think are all solid.

The case I made on CC, i still hold some reservations over and would have to give him a re-read to consider voting.

My concern is to drop KP to 2; and am clearly getting zero traction in the thread. I recognise this, which is why I am more than comfortable lynching between my top three. I have been pretty damn transparent about this.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 01 2013 15:29 GMT
#5463
On October 02 2013 00:26 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm not following you Mocsta, are you saying iamp is a good lynch or bad one?

iamp is a good lynch.

Im saying its ridiculous to consider me in that group; when a tell that makes iamp scum, is completely applicable for me being town.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 01 2013 15:32 GMT
#5464
I am going to add Risen in my scumteam and remove Sentinel.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 01 2013 15:43 GMT
#5465
JAT
Im gonna head off soon. I thought there was something you wanted to ask me?
Worse comes to worse, I will answer when I wake up. Please send through whatever you had in mind.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 01 2013 15:43 GMT
#5466
On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote:
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.


Stutters seems like the most likely mislynch bait in my opinion.

I don't think a "liar lynch" really makes sense, since a town or a mafia player really wouldn't want say they are working on a post, then never deliver. There is no scum benefit for saying something like that and then going away. He has been pretty much absent the last few days. I can see him being town, I can see him being mafia. I would much rather go after a player with a filter that you can actually analyze when a kp is one the line.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 01 2013 15:46 GMT
#5467
On October 02 2013 00:43 Mocsta wrote:
JAT
Im gonna head off soon. I thought there was something you wanted to ask me?
Worse comes to worse, I will answer when I wake up. Please send through whatever you had in mind.

What I wanted to know was basically answered by now. The other reason was your vote which will be on FT now I guess? You don't come back before the lynch or do you?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:48 GMT
#5468
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:49 GMT
#5469
On October 02 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
FT > iamp > Mocsta > Stutters > deconduo is my current preference out of the top five.

I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though.

Are you scum?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 01 2013 15:49 GMT
#5470
On October 02 2013 00:49 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
FT > iamp > Mocsta > Stutters > deconduo is my current preference out of the top five.

I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though.

Are you scum?


No, do you think I am?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:51 GMT
#5471
On October 02 2013 00:49 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:49 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
FT > iamp > Mocsta > Stutters > deconduo is my current preference out of the top five.

I would be pretty happy with either of the top two though.

Are you scum?


No, do you think I am?

I don't see how you can have stutters so low and FT so high as town. So yes.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 15:51 GMT
#5472
On October 02 2013 00:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote:
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.


Stutters seems like the most likely mislynch bait in my opinion.

I don't think a "liar lynch" really makes sense, since a town or a mafia player really wouldn't want say they are working on a post, then never deliver. There is no scum benefit for saying something like that and then going away. He has been pretty much absent the last few days. I can see him being town, I can see him being mafia. I would much rather go after a player with a filter that you can actually analyze when a kp is one the line.

How can you say this and have FT at the top of people you want lynched?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 01 2013 16:00 GMT
#5473
On October 02 2013 00:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:43 Mocsta wrote:
JAT
Im gonna head off soon. I thought there was something you wanted to ask me?
Worse comes to worse, I will answer when I wake up. Please send through whatever you had in mind.

What I wanted to know was basically answered by now. The other reason was your vote which will be on FT now I guess? You don't come back before the lynch or do you?

I am back about 1 to 2 hrs before deadline, but of course have to catch up on thread.

I am leaving my vote on FT, as I don't want him to ignore my case and then AFK for 24hrs.

FT or iamp > Stutters: is my preference.


I have some concern about Stutters but dont have to time to double check it pre-lynch.
Namely,
(1) Kita raised a good point about inactive Stutters, really could be either. He is that useless.
(2) IIRC, my scum reads have called Stutters scummy.. now, it could be distancing/bussing.. but with a KP on the line, I find this unlikely. I need to double check what iamp/FT/risen have said about stutters --> and there is no way I can get this done before lynch deadline.

Therefore, I have enough doubt cast to prioritse Iamp > Stutters. There is no way iamp is town.

+ Show Spoiler +
As an aside, I am one of the few ppl that read iamp as scummy when he is town. I didnt get that feeling this game when he subbed in.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 01 2013 16:03 GMT
#5474
Ok, Mocsta. Sounds good.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 01 2013 16:04 GMT
#5475
On October 02 2013 00:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:43 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote:
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.


Stutters seems like the most likely mislynch bait in my opinion.

I don't think a "liar lynch" really makes sense, since a town or a mafia player really wouldn't want say they are working on a post, then never deliver. There is no scum benefit for saying something like that and then going away. He has been pretty much absent the last few days. I can see him being town, I can see him being mafia. I would much rather go after a player with a filter that you can actually analyze when a kp is one the line.

How can you say this and have FT at the top of people you want lynched?


Both players are not contributing.

However, FT is attempting to appear as if he is contributing, while stutters is simply gone.

Look at these phrases. They are far too self-aware to be town.

FirmTofu
"As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment."

"I can and will redeem myself for whatever you may think makes me scum."

""Finally got some decent reads."

"Now for a solid scum read!"

"Now I have to sift through this nonsense to find something of value..."

"This isn't spamming. I'm trying to solve this game"


Also, look how concerned he is about other's opinions of his. He spends more time looking for others to question him, than he does questioning people he actually thinks are scummy.

FirmTofu
"Any questions for me?"

"If you want to discuss why my thoughts are poorly reasoned, I willing to have a go at it."

"If you have any questions for me, I will answer them."

"Marv, you need anything from me?"

"You've said numerous times that it would be really useful to know my alignment because it would help decipher the votecount for Day 1. How exactly would this help you? "

"VE, you seem convinced I am scum. Would you like to ask me any questions that could help you read me? I will answer them to the best of my ability."


"Just ask me whatever and I'll respond as best I can."
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 01 2013 16:07 GMT
#5476
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:08 GMT
#5477
I don't know man. If you look through my posting history you'll see it riddled with things like my posting "this town is stupid" and I know that I'm town. So I don't take self-awareness as an anti-town trait.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:09 GMT
#5478
On October 02 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?


Do you actually read anything I write? How about you fucking stop being a cunt and go read what I fucking wrote. If you're town don't ever fuckin' talk to me again.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 01 2013 16:12 GMT
#5479
On October 02 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?

Where did the ZEN-like feeling go?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#5480
On October 02 2013 01:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?

Where did the ZEN-like feeling go?

I tried...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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