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I am not willing to sacrifice braid of fire. It is too key to our deck and we don't have a backup one available yet.
Clockwork: me and iGrok are going to pick apart the thread when he gets home from work later tonight and we can talk on skype. That being said I have had time to catch up on the events of the thread, and though I dont have much actual things to go on I have found things that I see are weird. The Primary of this was some of stutters interactions with clockwork especially this post:
On January 30 2013 09:14 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 08:37 Clockwork Hydra wrote:On January 30 2013 08:22 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Also considering Prome told me (and everybody) Stutters is this "useless" every time he's town, I am thus willing to "forgive" him and focus on Crossfire more, and also considering Xfire's "blunders" and contradictions and wishy-washy play so far
I.e if I had 2 10/10 beasts I'd attack Cross right now and let Stutters be for another day. Please don't say this kind of stuff. Stutters: you are not getting a freebie from me. I don't give a shit about your meta. Start scumhunting or get zombied. Agreed with this actually. Why would you give me a free pass for a day? From your position I wouldn't consider me town yet. Why would you give me a free pass instead of questioning me to force more out of me.
This post rubs me the wrong way though I cannot say why. The second is that he is obviously noncommittal on everything in the game. Even his "next biggest scumread" (me) is him saying the case on my is good but has problems. Now having null reads is not a scumtell, but he seems to be very noncommittal all game, something that I find is a scumtell.
On the magic side of things he also really hasnt had incredibly strong opinions on his development in this game. I am speaking of this post:
On February 02 2013 01:09 Stutters695 wrote:
Basically I can drop a 2/2 today for some kp at the risk of developing even slower than I already am, or can be creatureless until t4 but help everyone develop. I really piloted this poorly t1 :/
While it might seem the "townie" thing to do, this information doesn't do us any good. We don't know how much we will hurt his development, what the risks are, what the reward is, or how vulnurable he will be. Only he knows this information for sure. The best thing for him to do in this situation would be to commit to something and say "this is the best option". Once again, this is an example of non committal behavior.
Please read his filter and study him. beyond the standard policy discussion for his first few posts stutters has yet to actually take a real stance on anything, especially now with crossfire taking a lot of the attention of the day.
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On February 02 2013 05:14 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:12 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Are we allowed to discard to create a Zombie in response? Didn't read the op, scum?
The OP was created to prevent RL play. The stupid card is the EPITOME of RL play. It is stupid.
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On February 02 2013 05:17 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
If you are allowed to SAC lands, then the change to the card is fucking stupid, because the first thing we thought of doing upon seeing that card was to sacrifice our lands.
Also, STOP BEING A STUPID IDIOT AND GIVING XFIRE IDEAS.
Thanks for that. Totally didn't realize that lol.
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I'll do whatever i can with the treetop if i can get the mana buff or whatnot
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@Grey: Your buddy seems to think a hydra scum is more likely, and most of us seemed to think that way as well.
Is your "suspicion" on Stutters enough to overcome all that?
On February 02 2013 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
so Crossfire has a card that instantly deals 16 damage and gives himself 16 life
This
I don't know why Artanis would allow that kind of card, specially on SCUM.
On February 02 2013 05:21 Crossfire99 wrote:
##Sacrifice: Mountain: Activate The Abyss, targeting a Zombie token
...HGHHGHGHH ASDFASjidhakjsdhbakjhfbskjhLIDSANHLFKASDNFOKAJSDHLASJNLKASDFASFAS
/G
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AND THAT IS NOT "FAKE" RAGE XFIRE, UNLIKE YOURS
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Well at least it confirms CH and Suck as town, like 100% basically.
Silver lining I FUCKING GUESS
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On February 02 2013 05:24 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:@Grey: Your buddy seems to think a hydra scum is more likely, and most of us seemed to think that way as well. Is your "suspicion" on Stutters enough to overcome all that? Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
so Crossfire has a card that instantly deals 16 damage and gives himself 16 life This I don't know why Artanis would allow that kind of card, specially on SCUM. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:21 Crossfire99 wrote:
##Sacrifice: Mountain: Activate The Abyss, targeting a Zombie token ...HGHHGHGHH ASDFASjidhakjsdhbakjhfbskjhLIDSANHLFKASDNFOKAJSDHLASJNLKASDFASFAS /G
I fail to see why we are assuming that Artanis doesn't use anything but pure RNG. The second you start to assume stuff about a setup or host actions in a mafia game is the second you get trapped.
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On February 02 2013 05:25 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well at least it confirms CH and Suck as town, like 100% basically.
Silver lining I FUCKING GUESS
how much damage can Crossfire do to us if he survives another turn?
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Okay, how about:
"I don't know why Artanis would allow that kind of card. PERIOD
Specially if there is a chance based on RNG that it falls on scum"
Also Grey, are you like fazed at all about Xfire surviving 1 more day, or do you not give a shit about it?
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On February 02 2013 05:28 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:25 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well at least it confirms CH and Suck as town, like 100% basically.
Silver lining I FUCKING GUESS how much damage can Crossfire do to us if he survives another turn?
How the fuck should I know?
He may have another of those "Syphon Soul" in his hand, thus he can play another Swamp tomorrow, cast it, and survive even longer.
Guess what? If he gets ANOTHER Syphon Soul he can SURVIVE EVEN LONGER
NICE. REAL FUCKING NICE
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On February 02 2013 05:30 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:28 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:On February 02 2013 05:25 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well at least it confirms CH and Suck as town, like 100% basically.
Silver lining I FUCKING GUESS how much damage can Crossfire do to us if he survives another turn? How the fuck should I know? He may have another of those "Syphon Soul" in his hand, thus he can play another Swamp tomorrow, cast it, and survive even longer. Guess what? If he gets ANOTHER Syphon Soul he can SURVIVE EVEN LONGER NICE. REAL FUCKING NICE
My point was - if Aperture can guarantee his death today by sacrificing whatever card he has, and if Crossfire can do significant damage tomorrow if he survives, the fact Aperture refuses to sacrifice his card is getting pretty close to a scumclaim.
-marvelbabe
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I mean, Xfire isn't sacking other lands, thus it's a possibility he's planning on casting another "3 mana" card tomorrow, which could very well be Syphon Soul
If he didn't have that card, or another "card that can totally fuck town for shizzle" in his hand, then I think he would have sacked at least 1 more land, just to be sure he wouldn't die.
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How can Aperture guarantee his death?
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Well, I guess now there's no rush. Xfire has 2 lands and nothing in play anymore. I guess Nova can sort his own deck out, and we'll just do 9 damage in the attack phase, leaving Xfire at 3 life. Presumably people can actually do stuff next turn.
Btw, we will probably need 2 turns to recover from the loss of ZI, but if we are lucky, we might draw another one next turn (we will have some help).
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On February 02 2013 05:32 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
How can Aperture guarantee his death?
I thought he could do a certain amount of damage by sacrificing some card?
If not, I'm just gonna shut up talking about Magic things.
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On February 02 2013 05:32 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Well, I guess now there's no rush. Xfire has 2 lands and nothing in play anymore. I guess Nova can sort his own deck out, and we'll just do 9 damage in the attack phase, leaving Xfire at 3 life. Presumably people can actually do stuff next turn.
Btw, we will probably need 2 turns to recover from the loss of ZI, but if we are lucky, we might draw another one next turn (we will have some help).
Yeah, it's not like he'll do this as soon as the next Main Phase starts:
##Cast: Swamp
##Tap Badlands for 1 black mana
##Tap Badlands for 1 black mana
##Tap Swamp
##Cast Syphon Soul
In fact, I PREDICT that's what he'll do, just because it's the only way things can get worse for us, therefore it will happen
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On February 02 2013 05:34 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:32 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
How can Aperture guarantee his death? I thought he could do a certain amount of damage by sacrificing some card? If not, I'm just gonna shut up talking about Magic things.
He already did, check the Board thread.
He dealt 3 damage to Xfire by copying my Chain Lightning
Anyways, Yeah, Appy is posting and doesn't even seem to give a shit that A CONFIRMED SCUM WILL LIVE ANOTHER DAY.
Like....h...waht.....aahasd
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