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On February 02 2013 04:57 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Are we allowed to know if a discard was at random?
~Hopeless
I will not confirm nor deny whether discards were at random.
On February 02 2013 05:04 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:Welp actually no We need this figured out ASAP Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Errata change on the board card: From destroy target permanent to destroy target nonland permanent. Does this mean one can sack a land to destroy a non-land permanent then?/G
Yes.
On February 02 2013 05:12 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Are we allowed to discard to create a Zombie in response?
I'll allow it as this game is not supposed to be about who does this or that first.
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/me slaps suck with a large trout
whyyyyyyy would you give him those ideas
and also why not play words of war
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On February 02 2013 06:50 RockHydra wrote:/me slaps suck with a large trout whyyyyyyy would you give him those ideas and also why not play words of war
i asked:
[9:53:32 PM] strongandbig: it only does damage when we would draw a card
[9:53:38 PM] strongandbig: and we cant draw a card and play it both in this turn
[9:53:50 PM] strongandbig: it being words of war in the previous sentence
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On February 02 2013 06:50 RockHydra wrote:/me slaps suck with a large trout whyyyyyyy would you give him those ideas
srsly? he could have done all that stuff during the attack phase, after we had all committed to a plan that wouldn't work anyways
like, you really want to base your game play on the hope that both he and his scum buddy are terrible at mtg and also don't pay attention to the game at all?
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we could have killed him in the next drawphase though.. no more lifesucking sorceries
but oh well
also:
maybe the ninja's don't seem so awesome to some.. but that's cause they lurk in the shadows n such... we might have a couple on the board that just have detected all notice. Also they don't listen to our commands :/
/zebezt
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also fail:
On February 02 2013 06:59 zebezt wrote:
we could have killed him in the next drawphase though.. no more lifesucking sorceries
but oh well
also:
maybe the ninja's don't seem so awesome to some.. but that's cause they lurk in the shadows n such... we might have a couple on the board that just have detected all notice. Also they don't listen to our commands :/
/zebezt
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On February 02 2013 06:58 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 06:50 RockHydra wrote:/me slaps suck with a large trout whyyyyyyy would you give him those ideas srsly? he could have done all that stuff during the attack phase, after we had all committed to a plan that wouldn't work anyways like, you really want to base your game play on the hope that both he and his scum buddy are terrible at mtg and also don't pay attention to the game at all?
Yes it's a far better solution to yell at scum what they are supposed to do from the rooftops. Repeatedly.
You're right! Such a genius!
~dandel
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On February 02 2013 06:59 RockHydra wrote:also fail: Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 06:59 zebezt wrote:
we could have killed him in the next drawphase though.. no more lifesucking sorceries
but oh well
also:
maybe the ninja's don't seem so awesome to some.. but that's cause they lurk in the shadows n such... we might have a couple on the board that just have detected all notice. Also they don't listen to our commands :/
/zebezt
i dont think we could have
he has more lands left, he could have just sacced one to stop another zombie
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On February 02 2013 07:01 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 06:58 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:On February 02 2013 06:50 RockHydra wrote:/me slaps suck with a large trout whyyyyyyy would you give him those ideas srsly? he could have done all that stuff during the attack phase, after we had all committed to a plan that wouldn't work anyways like, you really want to base your game play on the hope that both he and his scum buddy are terrible at mtg and also don't pay attention to the game at all? Yes it's a far better solution to yell at scum what they are supposed to do from the rooftops. Repeatedly. You're right! Such a genius! ~dandel
whatevs. this is a stupid line of argumentation and im not going to continue it any more. however you are wrong.
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Anyways, snb being an idiot aside, according to my calculations I did with Microsoft Calculator(tm), we have enough damage between everybody to kill both Cross and Aperture next turn.
Even if Cross does another soul syphon.
So....
GG
~dandel
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I'm not as cocky as Dandel, but yes, it looks like next turn we can do some more serious damage. I'm also reading Aperture today to see whether he is in fact the 2nd scum. Doesn't do to become complacent.
/Acro
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Oh and for that, Stutters should make bear now.
Go stutters! The entire game* hangs on your ability to make a bear!
*slight exaggeration
~dandel
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Aperture is hardly confirmed scum yet.
He might just have been too busy to contribute much.
some other people are also looking reasonably suspicious to me.
/zebezt
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On February 02 2013 07:09 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Anyways, snb being an idiot aside, according to my calculations I did with Microsoft Calculator(tm), we have enough damage between everybody to kill both Cross and Aperture next turn.
Even if Cross does another soul syphon.
So....
GG
~dandel
This looks good.
Anyways, yeah I suggest we stop giving scum ways to counter our plans. I mean....I kind of think Xfire didn't actually figure out the whole global card thing, if not he'd be doing it immediately (and not wait until one of US destroyed one of his creatures likely).
I don't think it's safe to assume he'd figure it out by himself. Unless he did plan it and used it now since we "knew" he'd "know" it? Or something...?
Anyways, I'm okay killing Aperture tomorrow. Now he's apparently going against Stutters, completely ignoring what iGrok was saying like every 2 posts of his ("focus on hydras" "focus on hydras" "focus on hydras"), and of course not answering DEDAMKESTION I asked him regarding this.
He also didn't seem fazed at all by:
1)Xfire's scum claim
2)Xfire surviving today's kill
I went completely nuts when Xfire did that whole shit. Yet Grey was calm as shit.
Dunno....maybe he's all zen and stuff, but that's also weird
Also he never confronted any of the stuff I said in my case, he just said "I'm busy" and "I respond bad to pressure".
Yeah, because that explains why he hasn't done any scumhunting at all, and all the other shit I said. Even Xfire did more scumhunting than him, and Xfire has like 1 page of filter and claimed scum.
There are some little things that could make him town....but I kind of want to ignore them.
/G
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On February 02 2013 07:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Oh and for that, Stutters should make bear now.
Go stutters! The entire game* hangs on your ability to make a bear!
*slight exaggeration
~dandel
Once again, I disagree with my hydra head. I think Stutters should do what he wants. If he thinks a 2/2 bear helps town, then great. If something else, great too: he's the only one who knows his deck and how it can contribute.
Word of caution, though: I'm not sure a howling mine is a good idea, because we have to consider the serious situation where Aperture is scum and will "go off" tomorrow and deck us all, play an infinite number of Eldrazi or do something else fucked up. The presence of Epic Experiment AND Mind's Desire in his GY point towards a pretty funky combo where he just dumps down a giant list of instants and sorceries which ends in 200 damage to everybody else in the game. "I win".
Dandel was saying we should blow up his braids. I don't quite see what 2 red mana in his upkeep can do (can only play instants, not sorceries), but it's something to keep under consideration. I WOULD like Aperture to tell us how his deck is supposed to work and what he needs to "go off", so we can estimate the threat he likely poses.
/Acro
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Has anyone else had this thought:
[10:06:28 PM] Andrew McDougall: see
[10:06:29 PM] Andrew McDougall: the question is
[10:06:38 PM] Andrew McDougall: who is crossfire playing with that didn't give him the same advice as we did?
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Well....Aperture was AFK at that time wasn't him? 
You could also make the argument for Nova or Stutters not knowing much about game strategies to figure it out or some shit, or just straight up not showing up in the QT to tell him.
Thus we are at the same spot basically.
This didn't seem like an elaborate strategy from Suck to "confirm himself as town" by "giving" Xfire the idea and him implementing it, and of course Suck seems town for other reasons.
CH is town for....like a bunch of shit I don't want to list, again has nothing to do with him "giving him advice", although that could still hold.
Bin is town for having scum trying to kill him asap and other reasons.
Rock seems townie for dispatching Xfire's Soul Warden, which would seem unnecessary for Xfire to put out in the first place if Rock planned it since the beginning (or at least knew it could happen once they saw the global card....I assume).
So the whole "who gave him advice" thing doesn't tell me much unfortunately :/
/G
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I'm off to bed
have a good one all.
/zebezt
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On February 02 2013 07:30 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 07:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Oh and for that, Stutters should make bear now.
Go stutters! The entire game* hangs on your ability to make a bear!
*slight exaggeration
~dandel Once again, I disagree with my hydra head. I think Stutters should do what he wants. If he thinks a 2/2 bear helps town, then great. If something else, great too: he's the only one who knows his deck and how it can contribute. Word of caution, though: I'm not sure a howling mine is a good idea, because we have to consider the serious situation where Aperture is scum and will "go off" tomorrow and deck us all, play an infinite number of Eldrazi or do something else fucked up. The presence of Epic Experiment AND Mind's Desire in his GY point towards a pretty funky combo where he just dumps down a giant list of instants and sorceries which ends in 200 damage to everybody else in the game. "I win". Dandel was saying we should blow up his braids. I don't quite see what 2 red mana in his upkeep can do (can only play instants, not sorceries), but it's something to keep under consideration. I WOULD like Aperture to tell us how his deck is supposed to work and what he needs to "go off", so we can estimate the threat he likely poses. /Acro
Back, catching up. That's a good point about the mine. Those are the only two things I can do anything with. I'll drop the bear and if we decide his two mana is a threat I can sack the bear since I'm so much less developed and likely to influence the game other than by having you guys know I'm town. Preferably I can keep it in Peru and have it at least as a 3/3 tomorrow.
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On February 02 2013 07:42 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:Well....Aperture was AFK at that time wasn't him? You could also make the argument for Nova or Stutters not knowing much about game strategies to figure it out or some shit, or just straight up not showing up in the QT to tell him. Thus we are at the same spot basically. This didn't seem like an elaborate strategy from Suck to "confirm himself as town" by "giving" Xfire the idea and him implementing it, and of course Suck seems town for other reasons. CH is town for....like a bunch of shit I don't want to list, again has nothing to do with him "giving him advice", although that could still hold. Bin is town for having scum trying to kill him asap and other reasons. Rock seems townie for dispatching Xfire's Soul Warden, which would seem unnecessary for Xfire to put out in the first place if Rock planned it since the beginning (or at least knew it could happen once they saw the global card....I assume). So the whole "who gave him advice" thing doesn't tell me much unfortunately :/ /G
Anyway, now I'm done lynching all your team-mates in LIX, I can really have fun here! And yes, you're right about what it means. Which isn't so much. I'll read up on all those guys tomorrow.
I still agree with your Aperture case, though. Not that much changed since then. We'll see
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