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On November 29 2012 12:55 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, Djo, I meant to ask earlier: please provide the breadcrumbs for your saves. Thank you. After that we'll talk about confirmed or not.
@everybody
I didn't make real breadcrumbs for my saves because they are activated one cycle after I use my ability.
Neverthless, you can find good indications in my filter that I'm not lying about what I've explained ealier: I've used my ability on Dieno D1 and D3, providing him protection from death on D2 and D4.
Here is what you can find in my filter at the end of D2 and at the beginning and D3. Until today, I believed I had already saved him at that time but we didn't get the message in the OP so I was wrong. Anyway :
On November 25 2012 07:26 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 25 2012 07:19 iamperfection wrote:On November 25 2012 07:13 goodkarma wrote:
My mind is blown that with an hour left to go people nitpick over things like this when really the only question you should be asking is: Sandroba or Toad? Really? your suggesting we shouldn't be still scumhunting and have tunnel vision. Keriharti nitpicking and aggression there is also a town tell in my view. He is suspicious in a good way. Your point there was scummy as shit. You think we should have blinders on right now really? I have to agree, we're way past the point of scumhunting, we can return to that tomorrow. Right now people need to decide, Sandro or Toad My guess is that we are going to be back at picking a party leader tomorrow. The problem is that I think that the final blow is going to be delivered to Frog tonight so we'll have to find a new "almost confirmed" town player for tomorrow...
Here I was trying to manipulate the mafia team into shooting Dieno dead.
On November 25 2012 10:27 Djodref wrote:
@marv
I think we can limit ourselves to one party member from the last time. Dieno is the most obvious town in my eyes. I don't know how he is still alive but I would definitively take him in my party.
After that, Acro and Clarity deserve to be included. They really look town in my eyes, and I can guess that everyone share this opinion. As a party leader, I feel that I would be the less reliable given my previous views on sandro but I would like to take this opportunity to show everyone my true colors ^^
Here I'm saying that I don't know how he was still alive when I totally knew he was going to be alive. After that, I was very curious to know how much damage he took and if he knew or not that he was saved. Hence the following post.
On November 25 2012 16:34 Djodref wrote:
*snip*
In fact, I thought that you got protected. The fact that the amount of claimed KP is low and that you didn't want to say what happened to you and your reaction right now almost confirms it. Did you get protection last cycle ?
Could you tell us how much damage you took ?
*snip*
Regarding the protection that saved him last cycle, I think that my breadcrumb was pretty obvious  I don't know how you can mistrust me. Do you think that the mafia would have wasted 475 damage KP for the sake of getting me "confirmed" ?
Anyway:
On November 28 2012 08:04 Djodref wrote:
Disclaimer: Dieno is already taken care of !
It looks like Dieno is a serious contender for the title of party leader today. I don't want people to waste heals or protections on him because I have already used a retroactive ability on him which totally protects him. I have already saved him during the second cycle I believe.So now you are free to use your abilities on someone else ^^ I aslo would like Dieno to consider taking me instead of TC on his party because I'm not fully trusting TC yet (hence my vote on Keirathi) but I'm not going to fight for it because Dieno's party is likely to succeed already imo.
So, Prome, satisfied ?
Did I earn the right to get on a party ?
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I was more curious about you d1/2 BC. You are right your last cycle crumb was pretty clear. I just prefer having these things claimed.
I think we should leave off on our team plans until after this cycle. Since we have a lynch this cycle it is like a normal mafia game and giving town reads right now is pretty crap. We need scum reads right now. Besides Toad. Go forth young Djo, find scum, build cases etc. etc.
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Prom you better have a good story read as to why you didn't protect any of the most likely targets
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On November 29 2012 15:26 Promethelax wrote:
I was more curious about you d1/2 BC. You are right your last cycle crumb was pretty clear. I just prefer having these things claimed.
I think we should leave off on our team plans until after this cycle. Since we have a lynch this cycle it is like a normal mafia game and giving town reads right now is pretty crap. We need scum reads right now. Besides Toad. Go forth young Djo, find scum, build cases etc. etc.
@Prom
Well, I think z-bo is a good candidate right now. I am work so I cannot explain so much but his choice of sandro as a party leader (z-bo was the only guy with a vote on sandro at the end of the day) looks weird. The fact that he doesn't participe in the process of finding townies nor really cares about the party leader choices but keeps making cases on "easy" targets is also weird.
Like, z-bo attacked adam, S&B, TC, Hopeless and kita. But yeah, he doesn't follow up these reads so much. Town Z-bo is usually more stubborn and can tunnel you to death.
I need to build a real case but I would say he has also good chances to be mafia when I checked his filter last time.
I'm wary of VE, risk.nuke and Hopeless. Phagga also but a little less.
The rest is pretty much green or third party. I think marv was right about kita. You just have to see how obsessed he is about CJ and Acro.
What's your take on Acro by the way ? I really think he is a pro-town 3rd party...
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I protected a member of the (proposed) party. Based on Iamp's "what if we want to heal a party member" I figured I wasn't the only one protecting party members. I decided not to go for Dieno since Djo had claimed he was doing that and I figured Oats had the highest HP. Kier claimed a low success modifier and 600AD character. I still don't really trust you. I figured Clarity made the most since based on all of that.
Do you disagree?
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On November 29 2012 15:31 syllogism wrote:
Prom you better have a good story read as to why you didn't protect any of the most likely targets
@syllo
I know who Prom targeted yesterday  I found it in his filter and I'm waiting for him to confirm. He made a good choice imo ^^
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Arf ninja'd, it was Clarity indeed
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Djo: I've had a town read on Acro the whole game. I think Hopeless is way scummier than Acro and that if Hope flips scum we'll be confirmed that Acro is not scum. If hope flips town I'll have to re-evaluate but for now I'm taking Acro at face value, though I'd be more comfortable with him if he hadn't said that he player super pro town as scum. His 3p claim makes sense from his play, whether or not he is pro town or not I think remains to be seen but right now I have no reason to think he should be eliminated over scummier players. If we kill five scum (my bet for scum numbers in a 25 person game) and haven't won and he is still around yeah, we should take another look.
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Actually I forgot that you don't protect against factional KP, doesn't matter much then and I think the shield is more useful
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On November 29 2012 15:40 syllogism wrote:
Actually I forgot that you don't protect against factional KP, doesn't matter much then and I think the shield is more useful
so, anything else that needs a quick answer? I have 20 minutes.
Why did you think that clarity was a bad target?
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I confirm GK's outdraws. As for the rest, you can dream on you'll get the logs Prom. And I really doubt GK is scum. Why you're trying to pin the failed mission on him with Keir and Acro on the party I don't understand. Think of it as four normal townies give 4.0 Keir have a low rating so give him 0.5. This party had 2.5/4.0 with GK as town.
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On November 29 2012 15:49 risk.nuke wrote:
I confirm GK's outdraws. As for the rest, you can dream on you'll get the logs Prom. And I really doubt GK is scum. Why you're trying to pin the failed mission on him with Keir and Acro on the party I don't understand. Think of it as four normal townies give 4.0 Keir have a low rating so give him 0.5. This party had 2.5/4.0 with GK as town.
So you didn't read my case either? That is the straw man that GK has been attacking but not a single mention was made in my case on the failed mission because there are other explanations for that. The rest of his play however does not have other explanations.
Risk, what have you been doing this game to help town?
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I'm out for the night. See you tomorrow.
gl town! Can't wait to see what you come up with while I'm gone.
Syllo: some comment on my case on GK would be appriciated.
Risk: please answer my questions.
Thanks and g'night!
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I didn't have time to read the case even if I wanted to right now, I got to run for class.
And the reason your [tags] mess up your post is most likely because when you're doing double tags (red)(b)Example(/b)(/red) make sure the inner and outer tags on both sides is the same. Example do not do (b)(red)Example(/b)(/red). It messes up tags under some conditions.
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On November 29 2012 15:18 syllogism wrote:
This is extremely stupid, I can not believe hosts didn't just ask him for a team. Poor form
@syllo
I think the hosts felt like they had to help the mafia team a little ^^
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On November 29 2012 15:55 Promethelax wrote:
I'm out for the night. See you tomorrow.
gl town! Can't wait to see what you come up with while I'm gone.
Syllo: some comment on my case on GK would be appriciated.
Risk: please answer my questions.
Thanks and g'night!
I agree that his day 1 play in particular was extremely dubious and I and others have pointed out and agreed with some of the things you have said. His claim is a bit strange if he is mafia, although on the QT he seemed to forget at one point how his role is supposed to work.
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@Prom I haven't read your case completely yet, but there are good points in it. However, I might have confirmation bias as I was already leaning scum on GK beforehand.
Regarding Syllo, stay paranoid. I have the possibility of him being scum in the back of my head too, however small it may be (the possibility, not my head). However, it is not important right now, we have other scum to hunt, I don't really want to discuss this topic further now.
@Djo, why are you so eager to get on a party?
@risk
On November 29 2012 15:59 risk.nuke wrote:
And the reason your [tags] mess up your post is most likely because when you're doing double tags (red)(b)Example(/b)(/red) make sure the inner and outer tags on both sides is the same. Example do not do (b)(red)Example(/b)(/red). It messes up tags under some conditions.
I'm glad you cleared that up because it was definately the most pressing issue in the thread.
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@Goodkarma
Have you breadcrumbed your role anywhere?
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@phagga
I want to be on the party because I'm 100% sure I'm town. I also suspect that I could get an ability if I get the chance to have a seat on the party. I wanted to be party leader a few days ago because I thought it would be a risky but good move to introduce new players to have more "confirmed townies". I'm also really curious what the received items are.
Anyway, right now, I'm not so eager as before, but I thought it would be good to state that I consider myself as a serious and safe option as a party member. Also I wanted to see the feedback I was going to get.
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@Syllo:
I should probably leave this until postgame, but don't try to blame the hosts for this. They made it very clear what would happen if potential party leaders derp it up.
On November 22 2012 04:20 Mementoss wrote: Important Host Note:
Please if you feel that you have any chance of being elected party leader include the (3) party members to take along with you with your PM for the night actions. Even if you don't think you will be elected, you can include it cause, you never know. If the party leader doesn't chose (3) party members the party leader will take some punishment regardless of success or failure. The (3) party members will be chosen at random in this case.
This allows the party to be chosen for the elected party leader, even if they are not available at the time the hosts need the party members.
Reminder: This game follows a 47 hour combined day/night cycle with 1 hour no posting action resolution period.
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