EPTOn August 15 2012 09:37 Bill Murray wrote:
##vOTE: tUNKEG
##vOTE: tUNKEG
Holy shit you got alot of awesome reasoning for that sir...
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
Holy shit you got alot of awesome reasoning for that sir... | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On August 15 2012 18:34 Fulblade wrote: Right. Reason for shit activity below. + Show Spoiler + Basically, I have been finishing up my exams the past 3 days. In order words, I havent anything with the game as of yet other than a quick chat with fulla. That was the main reason I hydra'd, because I realised that there would probably be a period of time wherein I had to afk. Fulla himself is pretty busy with work too it seems. I will be pretty free for quite a while now that exams are over, thus I will be alot more active and stuff. The primary question as of now is this: What do we do with our D1 lynch? I am of the mindset that we should indeed focus on players with good positions in terms of aillances. Regarding the targerts that have come up today, I would be perfectly fine with a BH lynch. 2 aillances is a pretty decent position, and he might even have 3 (It is a very smart move to lie and say you have 2 aillances - It is a "decent" position but not an overly strong one, AND people will be less likely to doubt you considering that you claimed a rather high amount. Etc. if BH claimed having just 1 there will be a lot more doubt on that, and doing things this way he can get some attention of himself). Would not mind getting rid of him. Tunkeg has been pretty dammed noisy so far. I do agree with his statement that more "well-known" players are much more likely to secure strong positions due to being in a position where it is fairly likely people would send BH more PMs. However, I do agree with BH on one thing - the fact that tunkeg didnt actually ask the thread for aillances is one worrying thing. He claims to not have gotten a single PM - whilst I personally find that rather plausible, he did have the capability to send out one, and I think it is likely that he managed to get into a decent aillance through that one PM. Not a bad lynch definately. Speaking of which I doubt these 2 are ailled, makes hardly any sense to push an ally to the extent that one of you gets lynched. I highly doubt bussing is going to come into play this game, primilarly due to a lack of aillance flips. I dont buy BM's "no ailles" bullshit. I also like how rastaban and zentor both call for activity but do shit themselves. haha. In those 2 currently proposed, I would most definately prefer BH. Why? He himself has claimed that he is already in a strong position, and as such makes a perfectly fine lynch. Compared to that, whilst I do believe that Tunkeg could be part of a large aillance, it is more of a light hunch of mine. I much rather lynch the self-claimed player in a strong position than a player who has a chance to be in a strong position. ##vote: Blazinghand Altough you are voting BH you are pretty much pissing all over me here. You say I claim to not have gotten a single PM, and that is somewhat true, I didn't receive a single PM at the time before I went to bed on the first day, after this I haven't claimed anything about the PM's. Then you proceed to say that because I didn't ask in thread about alliances I am definatly in a good alliance? WTF is this? The only one who did this is BM, and I am pretty sure that is just posing. I would never ask for an alliance in thread, because those alliances are fucking useless. Why are you even calling me out on this when 11 other players, included yourself didn't do this? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I'm offering a second viewpoint on BH's case and presented some new information. You're just regurgitating what you were saying three pages ago. | ||
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Fulblade
United Kingdom53 Posts
Also my mistake regarding the PM thing - that was my assumption from your posting. The reason I am calling you out on this is because you were the only one following the following. 1) Being extermely active in thread. 2) Complaning about your position regarding aillances. I definately agree BM is 99% posing though. I would like to know why BH believes him so easily when he says that he has no aillances. | ||
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Fulblade
United Kingdom53 Posts
/zel. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
I'm pretty sure Tunkeg is screwing with us. All joking aside, there's no way he'd be so calm at the end of the alliance phase given how freaked-out he was earlier unless he was seriously feeling pretty comfortable with his setup. This isn't even a meta thing, this is just comparing "Tunkeg during start of PMs phase" to "Tunkeg at the end of alliance phase" and there's a huge difference. He's pulling all the strings around here | ||
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Fulblade
United Kingdom53 Posts
Tunkeg you definitely are coming across a bit dodgy. I find it hard to believe you are a loner. I suspect atleast 1 ally. I agree with my Zel half tho, BH you've admitted being in a strong alliance, then it's only a matter of time before you win unless we lynch. Tunkeg day 2, BH today you seem to the biggest threat to everyone. /Fula | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
In any case, stop drawing a distinction where there's no difference. There's like no reason to break an alliance except in the late late game, so now that the alliances are set in stone your allies are basically trustworthy. Tunkeg's swarm of allies is easily stronger than my 2 allies, but once he's dead, they won't be. I want him dead, and honestly, unless you think your group is stronger than his, you want him dead to. Vote in your own self-interest. Vote tunkeg. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
# of allies is so important it's unreal. Any AoK battle is basically determined by who has more stuff barring big compositional or terrain elements, which there won't be much of. Tunkeg has more allies than me, so I can't kill him at night. My only hope is to get him lynched. It's probably your only hope, too. | ||
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Sir Posts A Lot
Congo42 Posts
BH, you just admitted you are in a "strong alliance"? lol Oh well: ##Vote: Blazinghand If you are so afraid of Tunkeg then get your allies to kill him tonight, or convince other people to attack him tonight as well. /gonzaw | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
The reason I'm trying to lynch Tunkeg is I literally don't think I'll be able to kill him with my allies. And do you think anyone will trust each other enough to gang up on him with people not in their alliance? It'd be a fun trick to convince other people to attack Tunkeg then bail and let them get owned. | ||
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Sir Posts A Lot
Congo42 Posts
Convincing people to vote Tunkeg out of fear is the same as convincing people to attack Tunkeg out of fear, the only difference is that the attacks are anonymous until the next day. I dunno, you want to kill Tunkeg so badly, so you try. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
The Lynch is much safer, and is what should be used against big alliances. attacks are for fighting people weaker than you. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
Tunkeg likely has an aggressive civ (wanted vikings) and doesn't like me b/c of pregame. Id like him dead before he does me in. To the person I pm'd pregame, amendments will be made tonight. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
From your point of view, there isn't a huge amount of difference, except that Tunkeg is likely in a larger alliance, as you mentioned, and that's more dangerous. Even if you lynch him tonight, his buddies might be together and decently strong, but not overwhelming. Alliance size is the most important factor, and so you should lynch out of the largest alliance first. Also, Tunkeg has been playing to avoid suspicion and appear weak. And for what it's worth, he's done a better job of it than me, though I haven't really been trying to appear weak. But my #1 goal is to get him lynched, and to get him lynched before his enormous alliance can take night actions, against you or against me or against anyone else. He's a tricky dude, and honestly people seem to actually believe his tripe (well, some people. could just be his ally-buddies so far). I think that without me to push him, he won't get lynched. That's basically it. You can say what you want about me, but say this: if I have one skill, it's getting money. And if I have two skills, it's getting money and tunneling someone. Look at this push on Tunkeg and tell me that you can get him lynched without my fanaticism. Tell me that honestly, and if you really think that, AND you want to lynch the less tricky guy in the smaller alliance first, I think you need to play more intelligently. Tunkeg is the real threat here. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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