EPTI think voting for somebody who hasn't posted until everybody posts a bunch sounds like a fun idea.
##Vote: Sinensis
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
I think voting for somebody who hasn't posted until everybody posts a bunch sounds like a fun idea. ##Vote: Sinensis | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.qkme.me/3qhhgj.jpg) So the impressive argument between BH and Tunkeg seems to be almost 100% bitching about bitching. But Tunkeg's quality is slightly less so I'm going after him. Here is why I think Tunkeg is in an alliance. Fair enough. My point is that there are players more likely to gang up and make strong alliances then others. A way to start figuring out who is talking with eachother is by people starting to post. I am not afraid to stick my neck out here, and therefor I am going to say I suspect Blazinghand to be forming a strong alliance like that. So BH come out and play, tell me that you aren't. I could name 4 players who I am pretty sure is talking with eachother, but for now I will settle with BH being a center in an alliance. What do the rest of you guys think, will you let a BH alliance just roflstomp this game? If you could name 4 players, go ahead and name them. I have a feeling that this entire post is pretty much posturing and trying to make yourself look like the little guy. Nice pathos there at the end of that paragraph btw. On August 13 2012 05:42 Tunkeg wrote: But that is not what I am trying to discuss. I am trying to discuss who is more likely to get a strong good group going. Everyone wants to be in a strong alliance, but not all are able to achieve it. You get a good strong group by reputation, more people want to team up with someone with a good reputation. I could mention opthers who are highly regarded here as well who is very likely to getinto a poweralliance. And fyi I am not playing the newb card, I am not a newb, I am playing the no one in this game likes me card... ...and again. Point being, pretty much all he does for this section of the filter is complain that nobody wants to ally with him and that BH is scum because he's a vet. Now there is a grain of truth here - vets are more likely to receive PM's because they know their shit and people would want to ally with them. But the flipside to that is, who do the not-vets PM? You claim to be a guy who nobody likes, so who would you PM? A famous veteran? But the veteran is probably checking out people he knows to ally with him. No, the logical choice is another not-vet. I think the alliance mechanic would be seen as more useful by a not-vet and an alliance chain would be much easier to set up. The argument I'm making here is that you're in an alliance with 1-3 other lesser-known players. BH may or may not be in an alliance of his own, BUT his alliance would be almost certainly smaller than yours, because he would have a much tighter PM chain and not need the additional backup. On August 15 2012 05:24 Tunkeg wrote: Yeah, I understand thats the impression you got from me, and so be it. If the rest of the thread feels the same way and equally believes me to be a threat I'll get lynched. But your reasons for wanting to lynch me are full of contradictions all over the place. You want to lynch me because I am strong, weak, deceiving, easy to figure out, in a powerfull alliance, not in a powerfull alliance... I say you should be considered as a lynch candidate because it is very very likely that you are in a strong alliance, period. If people don't get my logic I deserve to be lynched. I (or we) want to lynch you because you are strong appearing to be weak, deceiving appearing easy to figure out, in a powerful alliance appearing not to be in a powerful alliance. And I'll end my argument with that because then I'll be treading on BH's toes or just making this thing recurse again and recursion is NOT on my agenda. As for marvel, he's just dicking around. He's not contributing anything valuable, but he's not hiding anything either, at least not yet. I'm staying neutral on him until he posts stronger stuff that I may properly judge him. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On August 13 2012 05:34 Blazinghand wrote: I can assure you 100% i'm trying to form a powerful alliance with every tool at my disposal, btw. But whether or not this is successful I won't know until the alliance phase happens and I see who's allying me back On August 15 2012 04:28 Blazinghand wrote: Tunkeg I've never seen you play scum, and I don't remember you playing town, but I do know this whole game you've been setting up to avoid getting lynched. That's what I'm saying. I personally believe myself to be in a strong, solid alliance, but I can't be sure I'm not in the strongest one, and honestly I have no way of knowing what you're in. The fact of the matter is, your constant complaining about your popularity since the moment the game starts isn't just annoying... it's suspicious. It's a big set-up. You think people are gonna buy it, but they won't. I don't think you're scummy, because I don't think there's scum. THIS GAME HAS NO SCUM. I do think you're trying to portray yourself falsely, and I think all you do is increase the amount of pressure on yourself with these flailings. All my motives are clear: I want to win the game, and I consider you a threat. A dangerous, deceptive threat. I'll continue to argue this so that I can get other people, who are interesting in winning for themselves, to also vote for you. I believe it is optimal play. It's weird picking a lynch with no scum, but I'm absolutely interested in killing someone who is claiming to be in a strong, solid alliance. Anybody not in this alliance with BH should be interested as well. My gut feeling on Tunkeg is that he has 0-1 alliance buddies. But we'll see on that. ##vote Blazinghand | ||
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ItsMarvelBabyyy
Vatican City State135 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:28 s0Lstice wrote: ooh scary first post! good luck everyone. I hope the thread isn't an empty wasteland. On August 15 2012 10:44 s0Lstice wrote: It's weird picking a lynch with no scum, but I'm absolutely interested in killing someone who is claiming to be in a strong, solid alliance. Anybody not in this alliance with BH should be interested as well. My gut feeling on Tunkeg is that he has 0-1 alliance buddies. But we'll see on that. ##vote Blazinghand 24 hours later s0L comes out of the woodwork to vote BH while simultaneously defending his ally Tunkeg? | ||
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ItsMarvelBabyyy
Vatican City State135 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
from my standpoint, strong alliances need to die first. BH has two things going for him -is a mafia regular, has friends/familiar faces in this game who will probably look his way -has claimed openly that he is in a solid alliance I'd rather not kill Tunkeg because I don't really buy that he is in a big alliance. His goals and my goals can temporarily overlap, in that I'm assuming he wants to see big alliances die too. | ||
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ItsMarvelBabyyy
Vatican City State135 Posts
On August 15 2012 11:00 s0Lstice wrote: it's real easy from my standpoint, strong alliances need to die first. BH has two things going for him -is a mafia regular, has friends/familiar faces in this game who will probably look his way -has claimed openly that he is in a solid alliance I'd rather not kill Tunkeg because I don't really buy that he is in a big alliance. His goals and my goals can temporarily overlap, in that I'm assuming he wants to see big alliances die too. I still don't like the timing of your coming out with the defense, but what you've done makes sense I guess. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Depending on who dies today and tonight, that could easily change. That being said, I'm a mafia regular. I have friends etc who will probably look my way. I'm a charismatic guy, and well-liked. I'm popular with the ladies and basically people want to be me. I make a lot of money and have a cute girlfriend. The point is, I'm not jerking you guys around, and honestly I don't think I'd be able to. Anyone who plays with me regularly knows I'm really bad at lying and playing scum. Astonishingly bad. Like, I can't coach newbie scum games because that's how bad I am. So I'm being honest, and I don't think I'm in the strongest alliance. I think that town will probably lynch me tomorrow after we lynch Tunkeg, but that doesn't bother me too much-- I want to help out my buddies as much as possible, since if they win, I win. And right now, that means attacking during the day whoever is stronger than me. That's Tunkeg. Maybe you don't like my style and my openness, but I guarantee you 100% if I weren't pressuring and talking I'd be lynched already. Most of you aren't in Tunkeg's group with s0lstice and Marvel. I want you to think to yourself about lynching Tunkeg. He's two-faced, he's been talking out both sides of his mouth and lying. I'm an honest guy, and I've stated my motives plainly. Do you really think Tunkeg has 0-1 allies? There's probably only a couple people in this game like that, and honestly Tunkeg isn't one of them. Bill Murray might be, and Sinensis MIGHT be, but not Tunkeg. Look at the posting as the alliance phase draws to a close. Most of us have ~2 allies (since on average you'll be PMing with 2 people), and a few have 0-1 allies and a few have 3 I suppose, lined up. Tunkeg has stopped flailing around and asking for PMs. he's hasn't tried to make an alliance in-thread. He's calmly arguing with me and Sent about Vikings. That's it. These actions are not motivated by a guy who is in a small alliance. The motives for acting like this is that you're comfortable. A Tunkeg who was really cornered would have been flailing for an alliance, any alliance, at the end of the phase. But he wasn't. Of course, once the day starts Tunkeg immediately tries to "scumhunt" or what have you, and to his credit this is somewhat convincing at first. But the more he argues, the more it becomes clear this is someone who is lying, who has something to hide, and who isn't doing a terribly good job of it. Tunkeg needs to be lynched. S0lstice may not be his ally-buddy, he might just be a sucker-- we'll have to see. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Atki Wiglegs
Kiribati11 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
you all may enslave my nation via threats and i will build fortifications for you imagine | ||
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Fulblade
United Kingdom53 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Basically, I have been finishing up my exams the past 3 days. In order words, I havent anything with the game as of yet other than a quick chat with fulla. That was the main reason I hydra'd, because I realised that there would probably be a period of time wherein I had to afk. Fulla himself is pretty busy with work too it seems. I will be pretty free for quite a while now that exams are over, thus I will be alot more active and stuff. The primary question as of now is this: What do we do with our D1 lynch? I am of the mindset that we should indeed focus on players with good positions in terms of aillances. Regarding the targerts that have come up today, I would be perfectly fine with a BH lynch. 2 aillances is a pretty decent position, and he might even have 3 (It is a very smart move to lie and say you have 2 aillances - It is a "decent" position but not an overly strong one, AND people will be less likely to doubt you considering that you claimed a rather high amount. Etc. if BH claimed having just 1 there will be a lot more doubt on that, and doing things this way he can get some attention of himself). Would not mind getting rid of him. Tunkeg has been pretty dammed noisy so far. I do agree with his statement that more "well-known" players are much more likely to secure strong positions due to being in a position where it is fairly likely people would send BH more PMs. However, I do agree with BH on one thing - the fact that tunkeg didnt actually ask the thread for aillances is one worrying thing. He claims to not have gotten a single PM - whilst I personally find that rather plausible, he did have the capability to send out one, and I think it is likely that he managed to get into a decent aillance through that one PM. Not a bad lynch definately. Speaking of which I doubt these 2 are ailled, makes hardly any sense to push an ally to the extent that one of you gets lynched. I highly doubt bussing is going to come into play this game, primilarly due to a lack of aillance flips. I dont buy BM's "no ailles" bullshit. I also like how rastaban and zentor both call for activity but do shit themselves. haha. In those 2 currently proposed, I would most definately prefer BH. Why? He himself has claimed that he is already in a strong position, and as such makes a perfectly fine lynch. Compared to that, whilst I do believe that Tunkeg could be part of a large aillance, it is more of a light hunch of mine. I much rather lynch the self-claimed player in a strong position than a player who has a chance to be in a strong position. ##vote: Blazinghand | ||
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Fulblade
United Kingdom53 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On August 15 2012 11:33 Blazinghand wrote: Hey Sent if you really want to lynch Tunkeg and not me why haven't you voted him? Trying to bus? Oh wait you vote here? ##Vote: Tunkeg | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
##Vote: Blazinghand | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On August 15 2012 10:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: + Show Spoiler [pic] + So the impressive argument between BH and Tunkeg seems to be almost 100% bitching about bitching. But Tunkeg's quality is slightly less so I'm going after him. Here is why I think Tunkeg is in an alliance. If you could name 4 players, go ahead and name them. I have a feeling that this entire post is pretty much posturing and trying to make yourself look like the little guy. Nice pathos there at the end of that paragraph btw. ...and again. Point being, pretty much all he does for this section of the filter is complain that nobody wants to ally with him and that BH is scum because he's a vet. Now there is a grain of truth here - vets are more likely to receive PM's because they know their shit and people would want to ally with them. But the flipside to that is, who do the not-vets PM? You claim to be a guy who nobody likes, so who would you PM? A famous veteran? But the veteran is probably checking out people he knows to ally with him. No, the logical choice is another not-vet. I think the alliance mechanic would be seen as more useful by a not-vet and an alliance chain would be much easier to set up. The argument I'm making here is that you're in an alliance with 1-3 other lesser-known players. BH may or may not be in an alliance of his own, BUT his alliance would be almost certainly smaller than yours, because he would have a much tighter PM chain and not need the additional backup. I (or we) want to lynch you because you are strong appearing to be weak, deceiving appearing easy to figure out, in a powerful alliance appearing not to be in a powerful alliance. And I'll end my argument with that because then I'll be treading on BH's toes or just making this thing recurse again and recursion is NOT on my agenda. As for marvel, he's just dicking around. He's not contributing anything valuable, but he's not hiding anything either, at least not yet. I'm staying neutral on him until he posts stronger stuff that I may properly judge him. So basicly you are just regurgitating what BH is saying? And you also manage to say that BH is probably in a smaller but tighter alliance than I am, but mine are likely to be bigger. A tight alliance would in my book be stronger than being in a big alliance where everyone is likely to backstab eachother. But still your logic is that I am the bigger threat. You are either in bed with BH, or you are just not thinking it through. Because what you are writing isn't making sense. | ||
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