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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night.
FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans.
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On August 27 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night. FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans.
Day 1 was poor as hell from "town", the only reason it worked out for town was because I happend to be in an alliance, you said it yourself in pm after, the reason you went after me was because I was an easy target, not because you were convinced I was strong, you dominated me in the arguements and manipulated the neutrals with ease. In other words they got lucky. If we played this game 100 times I would be unallied more often than not. If I weren't allied I would have been lynched alone and you guys would have won it even easier.
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On August 27 2012 08:26 gonzaw wrote:Also, why overhype the strength of enemies if you can get them lynched even if their army sucks?  (yes I can't get over my and ET's lynch yet >_> )
yeah perhaps this might have been a mentality problem for some players.
I think they didn't fully understand what their own self-interests were, so they went with any lynch that wasn't themselves.
Possibly a byproduct of information overload as well (and I will say that the setup was probably too complex)
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On August 27 2012 09:03 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night. FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans. Day 1 was poor as hell from "town", the only reason it worked out for town was because I happend to be in an alliance, you said it yourself in pm after, the reason you went after me was because I was an easy target, not because you were convinced I was strong, you dominated me in the arguements and manipulated the neutrals with ease. In other words they got lucky. If we played this game 100 times I would be unallied more often than not. If I weren't allied I would have been lynched alone and you guys would have won it even easier.
I still don't buy your "nobody likes me therefore nobody allies me" thing. Only one person event sent me a PM dude
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On August 27 2012 09:22 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:03 Tunkeg wrote:On August 27 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night. FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans. Day 1 was poor as hell from "town", the only reason it worked out for town was because I happend to be in an alliance, you said it yourself in pm after, the reason you went after me was because I was an easy target, not because you were convinced I was strong, you dominated me in the arguements and manipulated the neutrals with ease. In other words they got lucky. If we played this game 100 times I would be unallied more often than not. If I weren't allied I would have been lynched alone and you guys would have won it even easier. I still don't buy your "nobody likes me therefore nobody allies me" thing. Only one person event sent me a PM dude
Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did we probably would have gotten none. I still believe the more reknowned players will be more likely to be in a good alliance, and they are also more likely to be able to manipulate the rest. Its all relative though, with a different group of players others might be consider stronger.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On August 27 2012 09:31 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:22 Blazinghand wrote:On August 27 2012 09:03 Tunkeg wrote:On August 27 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night. FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans. Day 1 was poor as hell from "town", the only reason it worked out for town was because I happend to be in an alliance, you said it yourself in pm after, the reason you went after me was because I was an easy target, not because you were convinced I was strong, you dominated me in the arguements and manipulated the neutrals with ease. In other words they got lucky. If we played this game 100 times I would be unallied more often than not. If I weren't allied I would have been lynched alone and you guys would have won it even easier. I still don't buy your "nobody likes me therefore nobody allies me" thing. Only one person event sent me a PM dude Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did we probably would have gotten none. I still believe the more reknowned players will be more likely to be in a good alliance, and they are also more likely to be able to manipulate the rest. Its all relative though, with a different group of players others might be consider stronger.
Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did, looping it around, we'd be in the same boat.
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You should be happy though BH, you put a pretty obvious group of players together and won. Meaning you outclassed the rest of the players in this game big time in thread. While I should be ashamed of my play in thread, I managed to get a pretty unlikely group together and then proceed to get myself eliminated day 1, and fucking my group over badly.
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On August 27 2012 09:34 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 09:31 Tunkeg wrote:On August 27 2012 09:22 Blazinghand wrote:On August 27 2012 09:03 Tunkeg wrote:On August 27 2012 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night. FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans. Day 1 was poor as hell from "town", the only reason it worked out for town was because I happend to be in an alliance, you said it yourself in pm after, the reason you went after me was because I was an easy target, not because you were convinced I was strong, you dominated me in the arguements and manipulated the neutrals with ease. In other words they got lucky. If we played this game 100 times I would be unallied more often than not. If I weren't allied I would have been lynched alone and you guys would have won it even easier. I still don't buy your "nobody likes me therefore nobody allies me" thing. Only one person event sent me a PM dude Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did we probably would have gotten none. I still believe the more reknowned players will be more likely to be in a good alliance, and they are also more likely to be able to manipulate the rest. Its all relative though, with a different group of players others might be consider stronger. Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did, looping it around, we'd be in the same boat.
Then the rest played a horrible game not getting a strong third alliance going. As their pm had to be sent between those 5.
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I/Matt were planning on a sol/ET/BM/me 4 man alliance, but well BM didn't communicate with sol at all, and ET....well you guys know what happened with ET >_>
Everybody was just so silent lol even though I spammed PMs to everybody.
EDIT: @Tunkeg: Nobody knew the "allied circles" in the drafting phase at all, so it's not as easy as "the rest had to send PMs to the remaining 5 players", since the 5 remaining guys could have sent PMs to people from the already formed 4-man alliances, which is what happened (with me/Mat and marv for instance).
It had to do with luck as well. Had I used my PM on someone that hadn't formed an alliance by then I could have made a bigger alliance.
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On August 27 2012 09:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:26 gonzaw wrote:Also, why overhype the strength of enemies if you can get them lynched even if their army sucks?  (yes I can't get over my and ET's lynch yet >_> ) yeah perhaps this might have been a mentality problem for some players. I think they didn't fully understand what their own self-interests were, so they went with any lynch that wasn't themselves. Possibly a byproduct of information overload as well (and I will say that the setup was probably too complex) the two 4-man alliances should be lynching anyone that wasn't their ally regardless of their strength.
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United Kingdom36156 Posts
gg bitches 
massive thanks to wbg (and cohosts) for hosting this game. I had an absolute blast even though I had no idea what was going on most of the time.
Mostly I shouted at Risen for not doing things, and to try to stop him posting in-thread :p
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On August 27 2012 23:53 marvellosity wrote:gg bitches  massive thanks to wbg (and cohosts) for hosting this game. I had an absolute blast even though I had no idea what was going on most of the time. Mostly I shouted at Risen for not doing things, and to try to stop him posting in-thread :p
Confirming that Marvel pretty much told me to be quiet over and over lol
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United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 28 2012 02:49 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 23:53 marvellosity wrote:gg bitches  massive thanks to wbg (and cohosts) for hosting this game. I had an absolute blast even though I had no idea what was going on most of the time. Mostly I shouted at Risen for not doing things, and to try to stop him posting in-thread :p Confirming that Marvel pretty much told me to be quiet over and over lol
I think the best bit there was when I PMed our hydra account from this account to try to stop you posting. haha :D
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