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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Evantrees has posting nothing, no opinion. Xalatos has posted significantly more. I remember what set me slightly off on him earlier was the way he seems as though he wanted to make friends with everyone. despite this he has not yet posted with a scum agenda that I have found as of yet. I still think obyron is our best choice. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:08 GreYMisT wrote: You do know that reading the game is not a townie attribute right? And I will say again, it is easy for scum to make a post like that. they know the alingments of everyone. all they have to do is read the thread, gather thoughts from everyone about how certain players stand in the game, and post them as if it was their own. Evantrees has posting nothing, no opinion. Xalatos has posted significantly more. I remember what set me slightly off on him earlier was the way he seems as though he wanted to make friends with everyone. despite this he has not yet posted with a scum agenda that I have found as of yet. I still think obyron is our best choice. since when do scum have to post with a scum agenda? where does oberyn do this? Evantrees voted, that is something. You took "reading the thread" out of context from my sentence and used it to discredit my read on him. I said his post feels like he is trying to figure things out, not (as you said) knowing everyones role as scum do | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On March 24 2012 02:12 Mattchew wrote: since when do scum have to post with a scum agenda? where does oberyn do this? Evantrees voted, that is something. You took "reading the thread" out of context from my sentence and used it to discredit my read on him. I said his post feels like he is trying to figure things out, not (as you said) knowing everyones role as scum do You do realize that's how scum want to look right? Anyways I'll be back later. I would like everyone to consider how all votes and pressure on Obryn suddenly dropped. its as if a group of people in communication with each other didn't want him lynched! Gasp! | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I do not agree with their read on layabout however | ||
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
Evantrees- I mean what is there to say. He's got 6 posts, none of which with any substance. He think's you're scummy for reasons that he doesn't list and points a vig shot at you. I'm not sure if it's scummy, but as of now he's lurking the hardest out of anyone in the thread. Xatalos- I'm getting noob town. I mean he wants to vote you for being aggressive, that's a bad play, but aside from that he's been generating discussion lately, and staying active. Not someone I'd feel comfortable lynching right now. @Layabout- The reason I voted for you is because you have been lurking, and when you do actually post it's just one liners or one liners with a lot quoted. You have provided nothing to the town, and I didn't need Sandroba to tell me that... | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
I'll go into a little bit more detail on your case against me since I'm here for a little bit. Your main point revolves around the idea that given last game I should be more active than I am. Unfortunately I have not had the time to really provide a substantial amount to the thread thus far (This seems to be clearing up in coming days). You then say that I was wishy washy on Acro. You're right. I was. But admittedly so, I said from the very beginning that I'm not sold on the issue, the point of that post was to say he's either noob town and realized his mistake, or noob scum and reprimanded in the scumQT. His posting to me after the initial pressure indicated that the former was the case. As for the whole "stirring and cooling" thing, here's my thought process. I'm having a tough time getting a strong scum read on anyone, particularly some of the front-runner cases in the thread right now. What I was doing was trying to involve people in discussion that hopefully was not about only gumshoe and Acrofales. The suspicion that I cast was just that, suspicion. I wanted to force some reactions to help my reads. | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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Oberyn
United Kingdom508 Posts
On March 24 2012 01:52 GreYMisT wrote: You also made a joke at the start of the game, this isn't scummy, just ironic. Evidence against you was already stated in the thread, but I will be happy to provide it again if that is your wish. lol my case is hardly based on the fact that you made a joke. I'm just pointing out that every single one of your posts haven't been focused on hunting scum. Why does it take me to prompt you for a case? A town player should provide a case and lead the town towards their desired lynch, not provide one 24 hours later after asked. On March 24 2012 01:52 GreYMisT wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote: I definitely agree with this. We shouldn't allow players to pretend to contribute by speculating on a role that has little impact on the events of the first few days. If wherebugsgo wants to coordinate with town to somehow mutually achieve our goals, then that's fine, but otherwise it is best to ignore him. If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: We don't accomplish anything and obtain no information if everyone gets a free pass on day one. Lurkers should be pressured to post, but the day one lynch shouldn't only be focused on people without posts since it is also tough to generate information. This is a sketchy post. What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy? You should draw conclusions rather than tell us that you look forward to reading peoples posts. A big post of nothing, the first 3/4ths of this post are you agreeing with people and saying "like what this person said" and then quoteing what they said. Only at the very end to you contribute, in a very weird way. You basically dont call Xatalos scummy with his sketchy post, you instead just respond in a null fashion, and don't pursue the matter further. What more was there to say? I didn't pursue the matter further because I now have a town read on him. Am I scummy because I changed my opinion? It should be noted that this is the only post that was made at the time of GreYMisT's vote. He got caught on a bandwagon and now is trying to justify not moving his vote. On March 24 2012 01:52 GreYMisT wrote: Afterwards he makes a massive post on his thoughts on every player in the game, Which for some reason seems to have sated all of you. why? posts like that are easy for scum because They know everyone's alignment! I'd like to ask every player in the game to read this quote. Scum HATE to comment on every single player in the game. It means they have to give reads on their scum buddies, which can later come back to haunt them. In addition, it severely limits their options with the lynch, if they call a player town and then are forced to vote for the player to save a scum buddy. You attack me for not providing an opinion, you attack me for providing an opinion. On March 24 2012 01:52 GreYMisT wrote: Of particular note is his section on mattchew, where he says he had a great case written up on him being scum, but then decided not to post it. Why would you not share this if you are town? On March 23 2012 04:50 Oberyn wrote: Mattchew I don't really care about whether or not his "pressure" did anything, as it was hours into the game. To claim that it proves he is town would be false, but to also indicate that he is scum because of it would also be false. I had written up a case on why I believed him to be scum, but I wasn't satisfied with it. I dislike his lynch choices, but I don't feel there is enough evidence to make me think he isn't town. It is the exact opposite. I had a case on mattchew, but after writing it I determined it was a POOR case, not great case. Again, am I scum for changing my opinion based on the evidence available? On March 24 2012 01:52 GreYMisT wrote: And finally his "analysis" against me, which basically amounted to I've been busy and its day 1. At this point he has noticed that he will not be lynched, so he throws a vote on me. And yet notice that he does not comment on Mattchew, the leader in votes, at all. Why? Did he not say he had a case written up on him being scum? if he thought that would help wouldn't he post it? If he now made a 180 and now thinks matt is town, why not try to dissuade us? Again, you are misrepresenting my posts. Why focus on defending a player who could be town when my real focus should be on attacking a player I believe is scum? You haven't contributed anything in a pro-town manner. Why is nobody, but myself (and risk.nuke) consider him for a lynch? ##Vote GreYMisT | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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Oberyn
United Kingdom508 Posts
On March 23 2012 17:22 SamuelLJackson wrote: I only joined the game because I was asked to because Sandroba says he can't play otherwise; I didn't have much interetest in playing and I do not intend to post unless I have to. You signed up for the game, so that means you are expected to put in a full effort. If you aren't interested you should find a sub. If you use this as an excuse not to contribute, I can only conclude that you are scum. Earlier you mentioned that you could lynch Greymist for the lols. Why wouldn't you consider him a serious candidate, rather than a troll vote? Do you find merit in his case against myself from a town mindset? How is his play different from LayAbout's? chaoser, you haven't provided input in a while. Where you at?  | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
On March 23 2012 19:13 Acrofales wrote: I am not getting a scum read on Alderan. I have read DoYouHas' case and it seems to be entirely built from meta. Now I am inclined to disregard meta-arguments except for those people who know each other really well: one prior game does not make a very good analysis. Particularly it seems as if DoYouHas' argument hinges on Alderan playing the same in both games, which according to him is suspicious. WTF. Other than that I have gone through Alderan's filter, and while he does not seem to be contributing much, his few content posts seem town-oriented. My case against Alderan does not hinge upon his meta (which btw, I have played 2 games with him. 1 scum, 1 town). That is what tipped me towards him being scum. I know there is a stigma against using meta against anyone that isn't a complete vet, but I think when a person says they screwed the town with their inactivity and apologize for it in their last game, it SHOULD be a red flag when that person posts little and avoids making cases or taking stands. But let's move past meta, because my case really hinges upon the fact that Alderan has been spreading around suspicion while avoiding the spotlight of actually making a case. We are about 6 hours out from the deadline. Alderan has been suspicious of Lyter, Acro, Matt, Grey, Zealos, Layabout, and now SLJ. But he has not really pressured any of these people (with the possible exception of Layabout, but I happen to disagree with him that Layabout's posts have been scummy). Instead, he posts a short reason why they are suspicious, immediately drops it, and moves on to someone else. I find that behavior to be very anti-town. Alderan is good enough to realize (yes, he is) that if you want reactions you need to actually push someone. He has given no reason for anyone whom he suspects to take him seriously, because he isn't really trying to convince the rest of us. He just wants to look like he is scumhunting, without actually doing it. Even now his vote is on Layabout because he had "been lurking, and when you do actually post it's just one liners or one liners with a lot quoted. You have provided nothing to the town". I find that strange because when I look at Layabout's filter I see him making it clear who he thinks is scummy and why, defending those thoughts, and pointing out voting that seems inconsistent. It is true that his filter is pretty sparse, but I definitely don't find it to be absent any substance and/or scummy. If Alderan was really going to choose a lurker why not Evan? Evan has an even shorter filter than Layabout's and has a poorly explained vote on Mattchew to top it off. Then there is Alderan's bungling of Greymist and gumshoe. There was no reason for him to wait on his Greymist case or act like he was still null towards gumshoe. And even after gumshoe came back without disproving Alderan's case, Alderan decides to vote Layabout instead of Greymist. Alderan keeps going through the song and dance of scum hunting, but he never actually gets around to doing it. Can we please start this game off on the right foot and lynch Alderan? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On us. You have also even leading the town around like sheep for the first half of the day. Care to contribute more than these brief snippets of opinion? | ||
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SamuelLJackson
223 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17971 Posts
WTF Lyter. He drops in 4 hours before the vote to give us his expert opinion after like 2 days of absense. /bow down to master lurker. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On March 24 2012 04:34 SamuelLJackson wrote: No it's day 1 and I don't have much to say besides trying to get town off townie lynch wagons and trying to get lurking scum lynched based on flimsy evidence. If I had a solid case against anyone I would have posted it already. On March 24 2012 03:40 Mattchew wrote: so syllo, why not vote on evantrees? his vote seems forced and not his own opinion, also he's lurking hardcore | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17971 Posts
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