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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 14:27 GMT
#1981
On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 20:49 Refallen wrote:
Jackal where are you?

Just got to work and getting caught up.
Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am"


Eh? Lay haven't voted yet... do you mean it the other way around?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 16 2012 14:34 GMT
#1982
On January 16 2012 23:27 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 16 2012 20:49 Refallen wrote:
Jackal where are you?

Just got to work and getting caught up.
Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am"


Eh? Lay haven't voted yet... do you mean it the other way around?

Wow did I read that wrong. Ya. Teach me to post before coffee takes effect. I retract my statement regarding Layabout.
Life can only kill you once.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#1983
HoD claimed Seer**** the demon DT. Angel DT hasn't claimed yet, I think he should claim now if he's still alive. If he's not, that means syllo was the angel DT, which means time to look for his posts for breadcrumbs (again)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 14:49 GMT
#1984
On January 14 2012 13:25 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Oh hai bandwagon.

I am the sage.


So no. He did not claim Seer. He claimed sage.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#1985
On January 16 2012 23:41 Refallen wrote:
HoD claimed Seer**** the demon DT. Angel DT hasn't claimed yet, I think he should claim now if he's still alive. If he's not, that means syllo was the angel DT, which means time to look for his posts for breadcrumbs (again)

If syllo was the seer you're wasting your time. He was roleblocked both nights, there would be no breadcrumbs to find.

We want to lynch an Angel today, deal with the demons at night.
I trust that HoD is the sage, and I don't like the fact that Layabout was twisted. I think there is pretty good chance that he is a demon.
For the night actions tomorrow HoD needs to cleanse BH, and I feel that DH should shoot layabout. Demons can't twist both of them.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 14:57 GMT
#1986
Twist does nothing for a demon targeted by the Demon hunter.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 16 2012 14:58 GMT
#1987
Oh you're right then they simply block BH.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 15:52 GMT
#1988
Uh, sorry, yes I got mixed up with sage and seer again. What I'm trying to say is, do you agree, Jackal, that the seer should claim if he's still alive?

And Grack, that's a good point. Syllo wouldn't have had a chance to peek.

So we have a real high chance of not having any DT peeks this game, except for HoD's Grack not demon peek. What a retarded situation.

Right, I'm going to bed. I'll like to hear thoughts on lynching Grackaroni.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 16:25 GMT
#1989
I think Grack is a bad lynch.

If we believe that HoD is the sage, he is not a demon. He might still be angel but it just overall lowers our chance of hitting scum.

If we do not believe HoD is sage, we should lynch HoD.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 16 2012 17:11 GMT
#1990
On January 17 2012 00:52 Refallen wrote:
Uh, sorry, yes I got mixed up with sage and seer again. What I'm trying to say is, do you agree, Jackal, that the seer should claim if he's still alive?

And Grack, that's a good point. Syllo wouldn't have had a chance to peek.

So we have a real high chance of not having any DT peeks this game, except for HoD's Grack not demon peek. What a retarded situation.

Right, I'm going to bed. I'll like to hear thoughts on lynching Grackaroni.

We apparently no longer have our channeler so if the Seer does claim he will die. So unless the Seer has positively identified an Angel I think it's best for him to keep his mouth shut ftm.
I also think Grack is a bad lynch.
Life can only kill you once.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#1991
On January 16 2012 19:07 Blazinghand wrote:
##Vote: Layabout

LAYABOUT WHERE ON GODS GREEN EARTH ARE YOU

The night post happened at 1:30 am and i just got home, it is now 5:20 pm


On January 16 2012 22:36 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 20:49 Refallen wrote:
Jackal where are you?

Just got to work and getting caught up.
Layabout - Wtf is up with your vote. BH is so freaking town it's not even funny. Your vote hits me as a PSA from scum screaming "here I am"



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On January 16 2012 21:13 Blazinghand wrote:
The other option we have is to openly ask an angel to claim-- we lynch the angel then the remaining angel splits fire with the demon hunter between me and layabout. This can be done if Syllogism was the Seer. The angels *MAY* agree to this because if they don't, there's a high chance the demons just win. they probably won't if the acolyte is somehow alive, and just try to kill both me and layabout themselves tonight.

If RoL was an Angel they might. If RoL was Channeler and there are still 3 Angels remaining I wouldn't count on it.
I'm gonna call it now. Dirkzor and Layabout are the Demons. Bluelightz is an Angel. I have no clue yet as to who the remaining one or two are.



On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:
Vote count for the Day 4 Lynch.

With 10 alive, 6 votes are required to lynch.

Current votes:

layabout (1): Blazinghand

Refallen (0): Blazinghand, -Blazinghand

The Day 4 deadline is at 2012-01-18 10:00:00 KST. (That's approximately 1 day, 7:43:18 from now.)


What on earth are you talking about Jackal?


+so yesterday we nearly lynched HoD but decided to banish him and lynch RoL.
During the night i post a big case about why HoD is scum.
No banish happens and HoD claims that i have been twisted. (the sage and Angels are the only players that can tell if a player is twisted).
How does that make me a demon?




Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 18:12 GMT
#1992
On January 16 2012 18:56 Refallen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 08:12 layabout wrote:
Current Vote Count:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:
Vote count for the Day 3 Lynch.

With 13 alive, 7 votes are required to lynch.

Current votes:

HarbingerOfDoom (3): Tyrran, syllogism, layabout

RebirthOfLeGenD (2): Grackaroni, Zephirdd, Blazinghand, -Zephirdd

Spaackle (1): Zephirdd

Bluelightz (1): Jackal58

Blazinghand (1): RebirthOfLeGenD

The Day 3 deadline is at January 15 2012 10:00 KST. (That's approximately 1 day, 1:48:45 from now.)

Vote HarbingerOfDoom


Votes first, apparently, then quotes in the thread, where in previous days he's always voting through his posts.

Show nested quote +
if that is all you have to say then
vote Grackaroni

Show nested quote +
Conclusion:
risk.nuke's play does not math the town risk.nuke you may have come to know and love. He was willing to offer thoughts at the start when doing so was not useful and when it was easy for scum to do so. He has made excuses and promised content. He has yet to deliver that content. He has not been aggressive in calling people out as he has previuosly and has criticised syllogism for calling him out. He avoided has provided a very fluffy answer to HoD's question. He has contradicted his own declarations of good town play. He has avoided making any serious contributions now that we actuaaly have to decide who we are lynching. He has not made an effort to defend himself, but has called everybody voting for him scum.

Vote risk.nuke


^^ This is how he voted on previous days

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On January 14 2012 22:52 layabout wrote:
I will vote just before 8:00 KST.
You will know why.


^ Then he says this.

And misses the lynch. Gives the reason for this as "not wanting to ruin town atmosphere"

sounds like a soft claim to me.

So what I want to know is, if he really was the corrupted townie or if there is someone else out there. Do you not agree that if he wasn't the corrupted townie, and HoD claiming he was twisted, that demons would hardly have reason to be twisting layabout? Do you not agree, that wiggles was much more likely to be the fucking channeler than fucking RoL? And if that's the case, would HoD's sage claim not gain some credibility, seeing as there is no counterclaim?

What the fuck is this? Yes, RoL was probably a fucking angel. Not the AoD obviously, and since there's a pretty damn good chance the acolyte is dead I rather the ctownie claim now so we have a clear target in the form of layabout.

That's what I think.

But before that, we can ask ourselves first if demons have any motivation to twist layabout if he wasn't a demon. I'll ask that to you, what do you think?



On January 15 2012 07:06 ZBot wrote:
End of Day 3

Lynched:

RebirthOfLeGenD (7): Grackaroni, Zephirdd, Blazinghand, -Zephirdd, -Grackaroni, Spaackle, Refallen, Grackaroni, HarbingerOfDoom, Zephirdd, syllogism

Current votes:

HarbingerOfDoom (2): Tyrran, syllogism, layabout, Grackaroni, Zephirdd, -Zephirdd, -Tyrran, -Grackaroni, RebirthOfLeGenD, -syllogism

Bluelightz (1): Jackal58

Spaackle (0): Zephirdd, -Zephirdd, Zephirdd, -Zephirdd

Blazinghand (0): RebirthOfLeGenD, -RebirthOfLeGenD


The third day brought a new dimension of suffering. There was no wind, nor heat, but thick grey clouds covered the sky. The temperature dropped quickly, and soon everyone was shivering and huddling in whatever clothes they had left. A thin layer of frost covered the ground, every breath condensed immediately in the cold air.

Still, those that remained persevered. Some thought of their loved ones, elsewhere in the universe. Others remembered good times in the past. Still others drew upon an inner reserve of pure will. Everyone continued to talk and accuse, in hopes of identifying the spirits that blended in among them.

As the day continued, those that remained would eventually come to a mental consensus, and a figure was pulled towards the center of the town square, where the throne and spire stood ready. But a swirling ball of emptiness appeared and hid everything from sight. In no time, a scream of pain pierced the air, but nothing could be seen in the darkness.

RebirthOfLeGenD, the ??? was lynched Day 3!

It is now Night 3. The night will end 2012-01-16 10:00:57. (That's approximately 1 day, 2:54:00 from now.)

When i said i would vote at 8:00 my vote was on HoD,
I was waiting for RoL to make a defence which i could respond to. He didn't
I said i would vote at 8:00.
The lynch happened at 7:06.
That was not a "soft claim" in any way.
You call it a soft claim and then ask for a corrupted townie to claim so that i can be a target because you have decided that i was trying to soft claim corrupted town. You then try to support HoD's sage claim. And then say that this makes me a target because HoD says i was twisted,
HoD is a player player who STILL stands a very high chance of being the AoD
If he is an Angel he has either 1 or 2 team-mates who have night-actions that can fail if they are on a player who is twisted.
Who was more likely to target me last night if HoD is an Angel. The sage or an angel?
How does being twisted make me a better lynch target than HoD in any way?

+ Show Spoiler +
I am going to quote wiggles now:
About voting:
On January 05 2012 07:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
-cut-
Don't Hammer. While we don't have to worry about corruption until day three, we should still be careful of keeping the lynch under our control. Always check the vote-count before voting, and always vote in the thread along with your PM to ZBot, so that we can see when you voted, as well as who you voted for, before Zbot the count. No one should be hammering a lynch until later in the day if we can help it, as this will give us the most time for discussion and information gathering.

Those are my thoughts so far after reading the set-up again, and through the thread once. I'm going away for a little bit, but I'll read through the thread again and be back later.


Anyway Refallen:

On January 09 2012 02:30 layabout wrote:
Trying to figure out who was voting for who and when, is quite a pain.
I think it would be helpful if players would vote, then announce that vote in the thread and attach the zbot vote count at that time to the post, (with their vote in it).

That way we can look back only events clearly and actually analyse it.
However this might lead to or force corrupted town to reveals themselves, which they might not wish to do and which might not be in town's best interests.

I suggest that every every 3 votes somebody should attach the vote count at that time (possibly in a spoiler), so that we can look back and have a clear picture of what happened.

@at everyone
Do you agree?
Should we have a different interval?(for instance 5 votes or every 12 hours)

Night 1 i said that players should vote and then attach the zbot count including their vote to the post in which they vote.

By "On previous days" i suppose you mean on day 1? BEFORE I SAID THAT I WOULD CHANGE HOW I VOTE?
You are deliberately misleading people and you have been calling me a demon. Why would you do this as town?
On January 08 2012 01:43 layabout wrote:

Conclusion:
risk.nuke's play does not math the town risk.nuke you may have come to know and love. He was willing to offer thoughts at the start when doing so was not useful and when it was easy for scum to do so. He has made excuses and promised content. He has yet to deliver that content. He has not been aggressive in calling people out as he has previuosly and has criticised syllogism for calling him out. He avoided has provided a very fluffy answer to HoD's question. He has contradicted his own declarations of good town play. He has avoided making any serious contributions now that we actuaaly have to decide who we are lynching. He has not made an effort to defend himself, but has called everybody voting for him scum.

Vote risk.nuke
filters in past games:
Election mafia (town)
Tl Mafia XLVII (town)
Steamship (Tl mafia 46) (town)
Newbie mini mafia (town)+ nice hotbid post
TL Mafia XLV (town) almost no posts day1

You removed the date stamp on my post, here is the quote with the time and date attached plus a link to it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13039009
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 18:14 GMT
#1993
On January 16 2012 12:06 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Re: Layabout's case

You're right layabout, I should have been cared about the lynch day 2 as much as you did and not place a vote at any point during the day. That shows you care a lot more than I do.

I also liked that part where you didn't include this day 1 post of mine and then claim I never gave reasons for why Tyrran was scummy until the large day 2 post I made.
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 15:03 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
On January 07 2012 09:12 Tyrran wrote:
On January 07 2012 07:47 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Well, it appears as though xsksc is no longer playing this game, as his last post was: January 04 2012 23:24.

I don't like lynching lurkers, but from what I know of Erandorr, his lurking makes him likely to be scum, and I do like lynching scum. Barring him showing an actual commitment to playing, I would be fine with lynching him.

On risk.nuke, his playstyle seems to vary a good deal between games, so I am not sold on him being scum yet and would certainly like to hear a bit more from him before deciding whether or not I think he is worth a lynch.

Tyrran
Tyrran's play seems very different from his play in steamship where he was town. He is being much less aggressive so far, and usually people are more aggressive as town than they are as scum. I think he would make a fine lynch for the day. My only qualm with lynching him is that he hasn't interacted with other players much so far, so his flip will be less revealing, but I like our odds of hitting scum here. My vote will be on him for now.

His steamship filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=57176
His filter so far this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=57176

##Vote: Tyrran


If you read steamship mafia, you'll notice i wasnt really active before I had some hard fact to analyse ( ie kenpachi lynch). I'm not good at analysing Meta, because its only my second game here. Half the accusation here are made on meta. I'm looking for contradictions, votes, something i can work on. I dont like making case for the sake on making one. I'll make a case after day 1, when i'll have more info to work with.

No, I accused you of being non-aggressive/passive, not of being inactive. Saying that you weren't very active at first in steamship doesn't have any bearing on the argument I am making.

Comparing these posts, which were 2 of your first 4 posts in steamship:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2011 04:01 Tyrran wrote:
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On November 16 2011 03:00 Sabin010 wrote:
On November 16 2011 02:37 Zephirdd wrote:
On November 16 2011 02:25 Tyrran wrote:
On November 16 2011 01:59 Sabin010 wrote:
I agree about lynching liars, but if we're lynching lurkers because they're not active just doesn't seem to be a good way to go about this. If some one proposes we lynch a lurker, I'm not voting.



So you are basically saying : " hey mafia, go lurk and stop posting and you'll be safe from me". I hope you understand how this is suspicious.


Gotta agree with Tyrran here. Lurkers are bad for townies. That said, I don't want to just go on "lynch ALL the lurkers!" mode, but at least lynching one or two a day should make them stay in high alert.


You know I never thought about it like that.


What kind of defense is that ? No, I dont know what is in your head. The only reason you gave for not lynching lurkers is it "I'm sure some of the lurkers are blues". And we are not speaking of lynching them rigth now, but more toward the end of day 1.

Not being active is one of the easiest way for mafia player to stay under the radar. we should prevent taht as much as possible. And blues, stay active, dont get lynched.

On November 16 2011 20:07 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 18:23 prplhz wrote:
Yea I like Kenpachi as a lynch too

##Vote Kenpachi


So you were a fervent defender of only lynching 'scummy' lurkers. And now you suddenly decide to vote for kenpachi without giving any reason Could you please detail a bit more on why you like kenpachi as a vote, other than the fact that he did not post much ? His townie claim basically does not mean anything

Keeping an eyes on lurkers is good, but i would wait to the end on day 1(the last 24 hours) before voting for one of them. It seems to me that blanket voting this early on day one can only lead us divide our attention. Voting for someone whenever he says something strange without trying to pressure him more/confirm him as scum is a great way to lynch a lot of townies and seems to be a good strategy for the mafia side, but not that great for town ( obviously).

Bumatlarge espescially has been trying to push the town into lynching as many people as possible. Almost each one of his post include a quote on how we should lynch every single player. Spoiler below shows some example from this filter : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=31777

+ Show Spoiler +


On November 16 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote:

Why would you FoS when you can just vote them. Don't be pansies. Realized I didn't properly vote. I doubt I will ever take my vote off of kenpachi, it's not that I don't like him, but he is not an asset to the town at the moment, or the forseeable future. Nisani has proceeded to call me dumb or scum, but that doesn't change the fact that his fluffy posts stick out, so it will stay there until he remedies it.

##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Nisani201


And this


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On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: Sabin010


Bad vibes also this -

On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote:
I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off.


On November 16 2011 01:06 Sabin010 wrote:
This is my first game and im not sure of all the terms. I thought scum, mob, and mafia are the same.



Is why LAL is bad. What possible reason would cause mafia to post this instead of town. By all means keep up the detective work and checking out all the inconsistencies, but use a little sense. This definetely contradicts itself, and it could very well be an intentional lie, but even that doesn't make him scum. The bad strategy reason tht DCL brought up is actually something to go on.

You are pushing your luck by trying to find lies a day into the game. Use that energy to filter a suspicious person instead and get a general vibe, and see if their future posts push you one way or the other.

If there wasn't a majority lynch in play, I'd put my vote on everyone, and start taking off people who don't register as scum. That's about how many people I think should be lynched each day.


On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:
Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit.

We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are.

Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit.

Oh, hi kibbibit

##Vote Nisani201


On November 16 2011 12:37 bumatlarge wrote:
We got 48 hours from now, right? This time tomorrow we need to look at the votes and see where people stand. I'm honestly surprised how few votes there are, you get as many as you want, a decent townie can take advantage of this. There is no comparing how scummy certain players are to others, you just lynch them or you don't. I guess it's still early, and I'm still fishing for reads here.




Oh and surprise, the only post not advocating to lynch the entire town is to defend chaoser, the ONLY person that agreed with the 'vote for everyone' strategy, after he got pressured by WBG. And by defending him, he explains than chaoser should stop doing just what he was advocating the town to do i.e: vote for everyone that seems scummy.

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On November 16 2011 12:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Welcome to WBG logic. But that doesn't make what he says untrue, I think chaoser should focus his attention more and prove singleton cases rather then babble on about everything. Doubt he's scum though.


So you spend all your post explaining we should vote for anyone who seems scummy, and you defend chaoser that was doing exactly that by saying "he should focus his attention more". How is that not a huge contradiction ?

FoS bumatlarge.

to your play so far just seems incredibly different. It reads to me like you are playing scared this game. Scared because you're scum.


Don't comment on things you don't know about, it makes you look bad.
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Underlined: In steamship, if town had lynched those 7 players you would have killed zephird, Greymist and cyber cheese, since Greymists role is what killed town after the roleclaim then that plan arguably would have won the game, so i don't get what your point is.
If we lynched them all in one day the platform collapses and nobody gets lynched instead of all of them getting lynched, wasting an entire day. The OP hinted at this by saying there were dangers in store for a town that lynches too many people in one day, but RoL suggested lynching 7 at once.


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his original question was "Hey look - a list! Care to explain anything about it? Lists without reasons are pretty useless filler."
I wanted to make the point that given how vague this question was and given that i had raised suspicions about the players in the list i felt that it was redundant question. I then challenged him to make his first real contribution.
But alas my inept typing/formatting let me down.
And like every other person to lose an argument ever he corrects my grammar and ignores my point.
You think a vague question that requires a contribution to answer it is useless, but a vague challenge to make a contribution is good, I see, I see.

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Underlined:Clearly a lot of people didn't have null reads on risk nuke as he had reached 9 votes before AND was under a lot of pressure at this time AND was lynched quite a while before the lynch deadline.
And not a lot of people here have played 4 out of 4 of their games with risk in them either. What's your point?

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On January 06 2012 05:26 layabout wrote:
Grackaroni:
In this post his writes a pile of nothing to call HoD scum. my comments have been italicised
On January 06 2012 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
HarbingerofDoom is my scum pick.

He was one of the first people into the game and took a lot of time to comment on the setup.
(this is what the majority of his posts are about) -a completely null tell
At the start of the game he asks for us to give strategies for demons/angels which to me seemed weird from a town perspective and not beneficial to town.
-asking to not reveal game winning strategies for the other team is weird for town?this strikes me as counter-intuitive

In Newbie mini Mafia he was very active and spent a lot of time scum hunting.
So far there has been no scumhunting done by him -no scumhunting halfway into day 1, applies to a large number of players in this game and isn't necessarily a scummy thing to do.

On January 05 2012 15:05 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
So how would people feel about lynching Palmar or Erandorr if they don't start posting more? Both have posted nothing of worth so far, Palmar was even active elsewhere on the mafia forum today, and both are known for doing very little as scum.

He seems fairly content with lynching a lurker. (Palmar/Errandorr are the only people he's pushed lynches for)

Together this paints a picture to me, he is one of the earlier players to sign up, he was here right when the game started, he had the time to post quite a few things about the setup which tells us nothing about his allignment. In another game when he is town he is more active and does a lot of scumhunting but in this game he wants a lurker lynch.(granted it did include some meta with it) He has the time to post but chooses not to.
I'll wait for more posts.
-here he accepts HoD's early posting is null tell
-he offers weak "meta analysis" based off of a single game
-decides to wait for more information, likely because the case isn't strong enough to justify voting
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Emphasises the "Unless you have a counter" part. As if that justifies the don't talk about scum strats in an open setup stance. (it doesn't)
So earlier you thought it made sense from a town perspective, now you disagree with it?

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bolded: "Don't use meta from my first (but recent) game against me. I have changed. Use meta from a game where i was account sharing day1 when you try to analyse my day1 play, or use meta from another game". The "I've obviously adjusted my play" really doesn't hold weight given how few games he has played.
Earlier it was weak to use it, now it is fine, I see...

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The sage on the other hand probably shouldn't claim unless he has 2 demons identified. If he claims with only one identified, 0% chance of reducing kp or reducing the corruption ability, demons have a roleblock ability, angels can kill the sage to make demons a larger threat to town thereby reducing focus on them. Still gain information obviously, but overall seems like a much weaker play than the seer claiming after finding an angel.
The above was a statement I made day 1.
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When he said just that the sage should not claim without two "demon" results?
If he was the sage it would make sense to add, "if they are going to be lynched then the sage should claim" because that is what he claims he is doing now.
According to day1 HoD the sage should not have claimed in day 3 HoD's position. Day3 HoD had zero demons identified.
The demon role-blocker is dead, and I had about 45 minutes to defend myself from a lynch before I had to leave again, clearly I should have not claimed and died instead. Makes perfect sense.


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top part just isn't valid.
+ you had no reason to mash your keyboard as if the other person is wrong and can't see it because you are wrong.
I needed something that started with a g to continue my breadcrumb. Keyboard mashing was the easiest g beginning I could come up with that made sense in the context


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He posts what i think are townreads? Which is odd because he has called Spack and BL scum RoL is getting lynched instead of him, he hasn't commented on jackal other than (he was right about Palmar) and he then starts to attack me..
It clearly states scum reads, but I guess I should know by now not to expect much reading comprehension from you.
...in fact in the same post you post the correct interpretation:
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You then post very little to called Zephird, one of your bottom 6 un-town-like
Why contradict yourself within the same post?

I can respond to more points of it if needed, but I think that is sufficient for now.

DOES ANYBODY BUY ANY OF THIS CRAP?

DID ANYBODY READ MY CASE?

WHY AREN'T YOU VOTING FOR HOD?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 18:18 GMT
#1994
If you hadn't didn't have a town read on him you should bear in mind that the flip tell us that syllogism was not an angel.
read through his filter and look at what he has been saying and feel ashamed of yourselves
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#1995
On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote:
Vote count for the Day 4 Lynch.

With 10 alive, 6 votes are required to lynch.

Current votes:

layabout (1): Blazinghand

HarbingerOfDoom (1): layabout

Refallen (0): Blazinghand, -Blazinghand

The Day 4 deadline is at 2012-01-18 10:00:00 KST. (That's approximately 1 day, 6:42:30 from now.)

##Vote HoD
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 18:37 GMT
#1996
Re: Layabout's case

You're right layabout, I should have been cared about the lynch day 2 as much as you did and not place a vote at any point during the day. That shows you care a lot more than I do.

I also liked that part where you didn't include this day 1 post of mine and then claim I never gave reasons for why Tyrran was scummy until the large day 2 post I made.
statements like this only make sense if the reader does not posses the ability to think critically.

He insinuates that because he voted for Tyrran (who was NOT getting lynched in a month of sundays) and that i didn't vote that that mean that he cared about the lynch more than i did.



On January 11 2012 01:12 layabout wrote:
I will be voting for risk nuke.
I am going to wait until closer to the deadline before i vote.
I dislike the reasons given for lynching RoL.

Now I need to go do some work.



On January 11 2012 01:41 layabout wrote:
careful adding more votes, it would be stupid to end the day so soon


I then spent time criticising the case against RoL at the time.
RoL had 5 votes and the case was just bad, i tried to explain this.


On January 11 2012 04:52 layabout wrote:
EBWOP that was meant to be a spoiler not a quote-tag

my last post before the lynch.
On January 12 2012 01:19 layabout wrote:
Hey guys!
mind explaining to me why you hammered the lynch 10+ hours early?

the time i get back to the thread

I had expressed my opinions very clearly.
I had no control over the lynch, it happened while i did not get computer access.

you placed a throw-away vote on tyrran and avoided mentioning risk nuke or RoL like the plague.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 18:44 GMT
#1997
On January 16 2012 12:06 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Re: Layabout's case

You're right layabout, I should have been cared about the lynch day 2 as much as you did and not place a vote at any point during the day. That shows you care a lot more than I do.

I also liked that part where you didn't include this day 1 post of mine and then claim I never gave reasons for why Tyrran was scummy until the large day 2 post I made.
statements like this only make sense if the reader does not posses the ability to think critically.

EBWOP ^
+
HoD's defence is misleading and i have posted in great detail why i think he is scum.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 16 2012 19:36 GMT
#1998
ARE ANY OF YOU FUCKERS THERE?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#1999
On January 17 2012 04:36 layabout wrote:
ARE ANY OF YOU FUCKERS THERE?

I'm at work. I get in here when I can. And if you notice I already went back on the comment you quoted. I read the vote wrong.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 19:57 GMT
#2000
I'm here. Currently re-reading from page 90 and onwards. My gut is telling me to lynch HoD, but my gut have been wrong the entire game... So I'm re-reading to try and figure this out...
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