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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:58 GMT
#1941
So yeah Refallen there you go
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 10:59 GMT
#1942
HoD will illuminate you, so you should be safe tonight.

And sorry, watching GSL, will be back soon.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:01 GMT
#1943
On January 16 2012 19:59 Refallen wrote:
HoD will illuminate you, so you should be safe tonight.

And sorry, watching GSL, will be back soon.


Rules:

The Transport and Banish actions are resolved simultaneously before all other actions, and can consequently cause the other actions to fail.

All other actions except corruption and the cleansing aspect of the illuminate action are then resolved.

The corruption action is then resolved (even if the demon who is performing the action was killed the same night.)

Finally, the cleansing aspect of the illuminate action is resolved (even if the sage was killed the same night.)


The cleansing doesn't happen until after killing actions. If the acolyte is alive, I'm dead. I've thought this through rather carefully.

also dude Oz vs Curious highlights are lame come back here and talk
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 11:10 GMT
#1944
Alright, so layabout, you have some explaining to you, and he's definitely the prime target today.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:12 GMT
#1945
So refallen I have a "not dark" read on a player, meaning he's either a VT, the seer, or an angel. Is it a good idea to reveal who this player is?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 11:17 GMT
#1946
It depends on who the player is. Obviously if he's already scummy and you see him as not dark you should probably come out so we can lynch an angel today. Then again, we have 4 people here who are either VT/Sage, while only 2 angels left, so the odds don't really favor us here. It depends if you're sure the player is scummy enough to be an angel and also to be lynched today.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:19 GMT
#1947
On January 16 2012 20:17 Refallen wrote:
It depends on who the player is. Obviously if he's already scummy and you see him as not dark you should probably come out so we can lynch an angel today. Then again, we have 4 people here who are either VT/Sage, while only 2 angels left, so the odds don't really favor us here. It depends if you're sure the player is scummy enough to be an angel and also to be lynched today.


I am currently offering "no comment" on whether or not the player is scummy. I will wait to hear other people's opinions on this issue. I hope you don't mind.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 11:21 GMT
#1948
Go ahead
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 11:25 GMT
#1949
Sorry my brother called.

Don't claim who your used sense on yet. See where the day go and then if you find it beneficial later you can claim. I see no reason to give that info to everyone yet.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:26 GMT
#1950
In any case, we've got 10 people alive-- assuming that I'm right and RoL is the acolyte, that means 6 of us are town-affiliated. Wiggs was the channeler. It's possible we lost a blue lost night when Syllo died (I personally think he was the Seer).
this means out of the 10 remaining we've got:

AoD
Acolyte/Observer

Concealer (no power)
Twister
Demon Hunter (dead if he was syllo, which case this is a VT)
Seer (dead if he was syllo, in which case this is a VT)
Sage (HoD)
VT
VT
CT -- this is me.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 16 2012 11:27 GMT
#1951
I'm back

@Blazinghand

I am sorry I'm playing like a shitty dick, not helping, and sucking hard.

So, now I want to say Who I think is the scum

First, who I think is scum

Dirkzor:


I'm suspicious particularly in this post

On January 15 2012 02:07 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay... I'm severely hung over and that limits my ability to think right now... And read... And comprehend... And even sitting up is hard...

The way I see it is that HoD and RoL is both a lynch i can support.

RoL for his passive play and his really long post on BH which actually didn't say much. And why does he keep the argument with BH instead of just posting more analysis? He complaints about BH taking all his time, well then don't answer him - or answer in a way that ends the discussion - and post analysis instead. I don't consider his plan-suggesting as scummy as others but i think i made that clear earlier.

HoD for his implication during the nightactions. Is he the AoD? Maybe. The post that Wiggles made that syllo quoted is a really good catch by syllo. Wiggles basicly says in a round about way that there is no way that RoL is demon. The way it was written implied that he knew something others did not. Comebine this with this from day 1 from Wiggles:

Show nested quote +
P.S. RoL is a good shot for the Demon-hunter right now, as well as the Acolyte (If he's not on your team, that is).


So if Wiggles was Sage it would have made sense for him to target RoL. This means that his claim looks worse.

So why wait with lynching HoD? We can send him to purgatory and if we get no ??? kill we got our AoD. That is a plan that CAN NOT fail since banish it done before slay, so even if the acolyte hits our channeler the plan worked.

What do we end up doing if HoD is not the AoD? Lynch him anyway? If that is the plan we might aswell lynch him now. Or do we look at it when that time comes?

My vote is saved for RoL, but I'll do it later as to not open up for hammer possibilities.


Why does he want to lynch HoD so much (at the time)? {HoD claimed Sage}




Dirkzor:


I'm suspicious particularly in this post

On January 15 2012 02:07 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay... I'm severely hung over and that limits my ability to think right now... And read... And comprehend... And even sitting up is hard...

The way I see it is that HoD and RoL is both a lynch i can support.

RoL for his passive play and his really long post on BH which actually didn't say much. And why does he keep the argument with BH instead of just posting more analysis? He complaints about BH taking all his time, well then don't answer him - or answer in a way that ends the discussion - and post analysis instead. I don't consider his plan-suggesting as scummy as others but i think i made that clear earlier.

HoD for his implication during the nightactions. Is he the AoD? Maybe. The post that Wiggles made that syllo quoted is a really good catch by syllo. Wiggles basicly says in a round about way that there is no way that RoL is demon. The way it was written implied that he knew something others did not. Comebine this with this from day 1 from Wiggles:

Show nested quote +
P.S. RoL is a good shot for the Demon-hunter right now, as well as the Acolyte (If he's not on your team, that is).


So if Wiggles was Sage it would have made sense for him to target RoL. This means that his claim looks worse.

So why wait with lynching HoD? We can send him to purgatory and if we get no ??? kill we got our AoD. That is a plan that CAN NOT fail since banish it done before slay, so even if the acolyte hits our channeler the plan worked.

What do we end up doing if HoD is not the AoD? Lynch him anyway? If that is the plan we might aswell lynch him now. Or do we look at it when that time comes?

My vote is saved for RoL, but I'll do it later as to not open up for hammer possibilities.


Why does he want to lynch HoD so much (at the time)? {HoD claimed Sage}

On January 07 2012 01:34 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay about palmar/Wiggles:

Wiggles filters contains a few "ARGH TEXT ALL OVER" posts but the only one with actual content is the case on Palmar. The rest are just generic play tips, setup talk and then a follow post to his case on Palmar.
About his case (clicky):
His case on Palmar is essentiel useless for me because it's all based on meta. He basicly ask me to trust him and vote on palmar because he gets a different feeling from palmar then he usually does.

When i read palmars defence the case just fall apart. Wiggles either lied on purpose or didn't read the thread/palmars filter. Considering Palmar had 1½ page of filter at the point of the case it would be hard to miss something that obvious. I mean it was in a post by itself and he pointed out the whole conversation with Bluelightz which that post was a part of.


In Palmars filter i fail to find anything that i would really find scummy. Again I can't take a meta-plastic-bag over his head so i just look at the actual content. He discusses and press bluelightz to give an answer that isn't evasive. I don't find anything that screams town to me either.

Out of the two i would rather see Wiggles hang as of now. One of the main points of Palmars case on Wiggles is that Wiggles is better then making such a case on Palmar (meta - i don't know), however the points about intentionally lying however are spot on and very discriminating for wiggles.


Hello defending Palmar, are you his ally?


Jackal:
He has not bothered to post post's with content and is well harcore lurking today ;|

Also, since he wanted Palmar lynched, I'm concluding he's not a demon but an angel.









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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:27 GMT
#1952
Given that I got my "not dark" read randomly, there's a 60% chance the guy I got the read on was a Seer or another VT, and 40% chance he was an angel of some sort (barring whatever level of scumminess he had).

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:30 GMT
#1953
The other thing this means is that town has 5 votes, angels have 2 votes, and the demons have 3 votes, including mine.

This means that the town cannot win a vote today unless we have the help of one of the scum teams. I have some nominal control over my vote until the demons mess with it, meaning that assuming they're afraid of WIFOM or something, they probably won't actually manipulate my vote since they're afraid of giving something away. Their goal is to kill an angel or the DH today and get up to 4 votes out of 8 or 7 tomorrow, controlling the town vote.

;_; i'm unclear on where to go here guys
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:32 GMT
#1954
In the event the acolyte is alive, I just realized, the demons are probably gonna twist me tonight, so at least there's that sad silver lining.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 11:33 GMT
#1955
Blue that post actually say that we should wait with lynching HoD and lynch RoL instead...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 16 2012 11:35 GMT
#1956
Okay then disregard that.

If you have any questions please do ask.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 11:35 GMT
#1957
Actually, the demons KNOW the alignment/role of RoL since the concealer gets the result of the lynch. that means that i'm for sure living through the night-- whether or not I am twisted (and whether or not there are extra kills) will indicate whether or not the Acolyte is alive.

In fact, the fact that layabout was twisted last night (and therefore not me) makes me even more sure that the acolyte is dead.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 11:39 GMT
#1958
On January 16 2012 20:35 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay then disregard that.

If you have any questions please do ask.


So you still think I'm scum? Or did my one-liner change your mind? X_X
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 16 2012 11:40 GMT
#1959
Lol, with your reaction im seriously thinking your town Lol
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 11:44 GMT
#1960
Honestly, if seer is alive and has three not angel checks/ one angel check I feel like he should just claim now. If we get an angel today, seer will die tonight to the last angel, but at least it's guaranteed that angel cannot have 2kp. If he's the angel of death even better, no more ??? flips. Leave the demon killing to the DH, and this also allows HoD to get an extra night of reads before he's offed, as well as guarantee BH surviving throughout the night.

What do you think?
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