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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:31 GMT
#1921
On January 16 2012 19:30 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:29 Refallen wrote:
Acolyte can't kill sage


Yes he can


no he cannot


Town Sage (x1)

Your study of the powers of light has enabled you to sense and counter demonic power. Each night, you may target a player to illuminate. You will receive "Demon" or "Not Demon" as a result, and your target will also be cleansed of corruption. You are immune to corruption. You win with the town.


no "dark powers"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 10:32 GMT
#1922
[quote]Every night, you may target a player to stalk. When you do so, choose one of: demon, corrupted town, or town with dark powers. If your target matches your choice, that player will be killed.[/quote

[quote]Your study of the powers of light has enabled you to sense and counter demonic power. Each night, you may target a player to illuminate. You will receive "Demon" or "Not Demon" as a result, and your target will also be cleansed of corruption. You are immune to corruption. You win with the town.][/quote]

I don't think he's town with dark powers.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 10:32 GMT
#1923
On January 16 2012 19:30 Blazinghand wrote:
ok no wait, I got it-- syllo was killed because they thought he was the seer, right? why not invert it and have the acolyte kill syllo and the AoD kill HoD?


Either because HoD is not a sage, and the angels know.

Or because the acolyte is dead (RoL?) and they can't
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:32 GMT
#1924
ok So back on track: why not have the acolyte kill the syllo the seer (who has dark powers), and have the AoD kill HoD?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 10:33 GMT
#1925
Where'd you get the idea that they thought syllo was the seer? I'm pretty sure syllo was vanilla town tbh.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:33 GMT
#1926
On January 16 2012 19:32 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:30 Blazinghand wrote:
ok no wait, I got it-- syllo was killed because they thought he was the seer, right? why not invert it and have the acolyte kill syllo and the AoD kill HoD?


Either because HoD is not a sage, and the angels know.

Or because the acolyte is dead (RoL?) and they can't



Ok yes these are our two options. So I'm thinking the acolyte is dead. I'm thinking RoL was the acolyte. This is my theory. waht do you two think?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 10:33 GMT
#1927
On January 16 2012 19:32 Refallen wrote:
Show nested quote +
Every night, you may target a player to stalk. When you do so, choose one of: demon, corrupted town, or town with dark powers. If your target matches your choice, that player will be killed.


Show nested quote +
Your study of the powers of light has enabled you to sense and counter demonic power. Each night, you may target a player to illuminate. You will receive "Demon" or "Not Demon" as a result, and your target will also be cleansed of corruption. You are immune to corruption. You win with the town.]


I don't think he's town with dark powers.


Or maybe the angels are as stupid as me and thought Acolyte could kill sage. I have assumed the entire game that acolyte could kill every blue town had.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:34 GMT
#1928
On January 16 2012 19:33 Refallen wrote:
Where'd you get the idea that they thought syllo was the seer? I'm pretty sure syllo was vanilla town tbh.


AoD thought syllo was seer-- he's dead. he basically soft-claimed blue trying to get unroleblocked "I want to die" <-- remember that quote?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:35 GMT
#1929
On January 16 2012 19:33 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 19:32 Refallen wrote:
Every night, you may target a player to stalk. When you do so, choose one of: demon, corrupted town, or town with dark powers. If your target matches your choice, that player will be killed.


Your study of the powers of light has enabled you to sense and counter demonic power. Each night, you may target a player to illuminate. You will receive "Demon" or "Not Demon" as a result, and your target will also be cleansed of corruption. You are immune to corruption. You win with the town.]


I don't think he's town with dark powers.


Or maybe the angels are as stupid as me and thought Acolyte could kill sage. I have assumed the entire game that acolyte could kill every blue town had.


angels will spend a long time reading on what exactly their powers do, trust me-- no scum wants to lose because they didn't realize something about their own role PMs.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 10:35 GMT
#1930
On January 16 2012 19:28 Blazinghand wrote:
OK so last question Refallen, before we move into the fun part:

Why is HoD alive right now? Spaackle was obvious the demon hunter kill. Why didn't the acolyte kill HoD?


If we assume that the Acolyte is dead (or is stupid like me and missed) it would make more sense to kill Syllo in hopes of getting town to lynch HoD by mislynch. We would never lynch syllo...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 10:36 GMT
#1931
I saw that quote as trying to get the channeler to jail HoD instead of him that night, not soft-claiming blue.

But obviously, there is a 50% chance that RoL was the acolyte.

I need to read syllo's filter
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 10:38 GMT
#1932
What... how can it ever be 50% that RoL was acolyte?!?! He might have donw something completely different then what we are speculating here and have missed. There is 50% chance that RoL was the channeler and 50% chance that is was Wiggles.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:38 GMT
#1933
Refallen this is the part i'm interested in, which Zephirdd brings up


On January 16 2012 06:02 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:16 syllogism wrote:
If you are town, you should examine the wagon on you before you claimed and what people were saying. Actually I'm now reading it a bit and this is somewhat changing my view on things

OH ARE YOU?

Wanna know what happens when the DH shots someone and HoD was jailed? We lost a DT check for nothing because you made excuses for reasons for HoD's claim to be false. Demons will try to create a case over HoD as he is the one town they fear, and Angels will try to protect him because he is useful and any lynch that is not an Angel is excellent for them because that's the only way to kill Angels.

And ta-daa, you got the Angel connection you needed from me. But hey that doesn't matters, because tonight you will get your "Not Angel" read, syllo-seer, but that probably doesn't matter as well because if Angels have half a brain they realized you are the Seer last night from your "I DUN WANNA DIE" thing. BAM Acolyte on you, AoD on someone else, DH on Spaackle(hopefully) and suddenly Angels won the game because town will look at this and lynch me and HoD.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:39 GMT
#1934
On January 16 2012 19:38 Dirkzor wrote:
What... how can it ever be 50% that RoL was acolyte?!?! He might have donw something completely different then what we are speculating here and have missed. There is 50% chance that RoL was the channeler and 50% chance that is was Wiggles.


Oh the reasoning is "assuming RoL is an angel, and knowing he's not the AoD based on the night kill, there's a 50% chance he was the acolyte, 50% chance he was the observer"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 16 2012 10:43 GMT
#1935
Without re-reading filters since last night my best scum targets would be Jackal and Tyrran. Both have played extremely passive. Tyrran have less then 2 pages of filter, which combined with his low experience, could point him as a "Scum scared of making mistakes"

Jackals have done shit all and I find it weird that he does not either push me more if he is so certain I'm scum or participate more in the discussion then he does.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
January 16 2012 10:43 GMT
#1936
I think Zeph read that situation way wrongly, as I told him when he first brought it up right after syllo claimed that he wanted to die.

...I find it weird he pointed that out again though. Do you think he's a demon?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#1937
I dont' know if Zeph is scum.

I was just wondering what you were thinking about that in terms of "optimal angel play". I'm wondering if RoL was the acolyte or the observer (as I am highly, highly sure he was an angel based on his play).
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#1938
In any case, I guess it's time to drop a mad knowledge bomb up in this joint. basically my magnum opus. I suppose discussing this with two random players who aren't "Captains McCleanNose" isn't the best sounding board but hopefully you're not both scum. I'm going to talk about making sense of yesterday's Demon play.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:52 GMT
#1939
So uh did we all just bail or what. can I get a role call or something
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#1940
alright i'm getting bored of waiting for you guys to respond


Some context: a list of posters who were definitely around between the time RoL claimed Channeller and the time RoL was lynched, and flipped "???"

Blazinghand
Layabout
Syllogism
Dirkzor
Zephirdd
Grackaroni
Spaackle

Now normally you'd say "ok none of these guys are the demonic concealer"


Well, why would they not be the demonic concealer? The obvious answer?

The demons wouldn't actually want to conceal this lynch after RoL claimed Channeller, since it would be super clear after the following night whether or not the channeller was alive. If he died claiming VT (which is what was thought by almost everyone outside that list of people above), that would cause substantially more confusion. So the Demonic Concealer is not among that group, or else he'd decide not to conceal the lynch and save it for a better day.

Unless, of course, there was another purpose to the concealment.

The demons wanted to protect the Corrupted Townie, who is probably their last best hope for winning this game. In that case, we're talking about me.

I am the Corrupted Townie. I was corrupted N2. The demons likely concealed the lynch because they thought RoL was a VT (not believing my case) and wanted me to live following the lynch.

I believe layabout is a demon who specifically soft-claimed CT then got twisted to try to keep their CT from getting illuminated, as I several times during the course of my rambunctious D3 breadcrumbed things about wanting people to enlighten me, brighten my day, etc. My unusually rambunctious and aggressive play was to try to get a wagon going on me and see who the demons were.

I used Sense on __________ because______________. I got a result of "not dark" and am not sure if I should reveal who I Sensed last night.


Dear god I hope the acolyte is dead.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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