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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#1461
On June 16 2011 09:02 teamsolid wrote:
GG, thanks Mods for hosting this game. My 1st one, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Sucks there were so many mod kills, but what can you do.

I would also be curious to see the mafia thread, esp. I wanna see iGrok's reaction to getting accused/getting lynched lol

You'll find a ton of plans in there that got ruined by modkills and bad votecounts -_-

That vote fiasco really fucked up this game... but other than that it was fun ^^
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
June 16 2011 11:08 GMT
#1462
On June 16 2011 19:37 iGrok wrote:
Treadmill, I feel bad for you - you made a bad read and it cost you your life.


Except I actually survived
It only cost OTHER people their lives.

Urgh. I really screwed up this game, hopefully I can learn from my mistakes.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 16 2011 11:51 GMT
#1463
@iGrok
Guess I beat Bill Murray?
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 16 2011 12:10 GMT
#1464
I don't know where all the hate for Kurumi comes from. Everyone has his own playstyle. I like Kurumis style. He is unpredictable and that's not a bad thing in mafia.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
June 16 2011 12:32 GMT
#1465
Lol. First night I was debating between shooting xkcd and pyo.

xkcd because I was 95% sure he was scum, and pyo because I saw what I thought was a massive scumslip earlier in the thread (I can't remember exactly where it was) that would only apply to a rookie player. It's actually the main reason I asked people to let me know how experienced everyone was. I wanted something concrete to build an analysis around.

Unfortunately I never got around to it. And, had I decided to shoot either of them, it would have failed anyways lol.

Being blue is hard. -_-

GG guys!
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
June 16 2011 12:34 GMT
#1466
Oh, btw, xkcd, since you checked me, you should have definitely hidden that fact a little better, so when you flipped, everyone would know that I was completely innocent. Looking back, I can remember seeing it, but it was far from obvious at the time.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 16 2011 12:44 GMT
#1467
I haven't read the game, but Kurumi is by far the most chaotic player I have played with. It's not all bad though, sometimes throwing stones around provides results. What did he do that was so terrible?
Bartundar
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
June 16 2011 12:48 GMT
#1468
GG guys,
sucks that this game was decided by modkills. I think we would have gotten iGrok even without them at some point, but it would definitely have taken longer. Also after he was dead, the game was basically dead because the remaining mafia decided to go out during that horrible thunderstorm.
But it was fun nevertheless, it was my first game and at least I know I have to contribute much more during the first days if I don't want to look like an active lurker who gets assaulted by Kurumi...

On June 16 2011 21:32 Impervious wrote:
It's actually the main reason I asked people to let me know how experienced everyone was. I wanted something concrete to build an analysis around.

Lol, that question in the middle of the game, really got me thinking what the hell you tried to accomplish with that ^o^
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
June 16 2011 13:05 GMT
#1469
I feel bad for xkcd. He did that epicly long post and then still got lynched.
You recognise me because of my signature!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 16 2011 13:10 GMT
#1470
On June 16 2011 22:05 Munk-E wrote:
I feel bad for xkcd. He did that epicly long post and then still got lynched.

He actually defended himself and still got lynched,while iGrok just fled.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2011 13:49 GMT
#1471
On June 16 2011 22:10 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 22:05 Munk-E wrote:
I feel bad for xkcd. He did that epicly long post and then still got lynched.

He actually defended himself and still got lynched,while iGrok just fled.

Read the QT. If we'd had an accurate vote count, I would've come back with a claim, causing chaos and a ton of shit. There were contigencies for whether or not that saved me for a day (I knew I would be dead by day 3, though there were even contingencies for if I lived past that. Me leaving the thread for an extended period accomplished its goal of letting other people talk, bring up other targets, and almost succeeded in getting xkcd lynched instead of me.

Mafia had really good planning, a completely disorganized town, and all of that was ruined by the xkcd/me fiasco and modkills.
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
June 16 2011 14:57 GMT
#1472
On June 16 2011 22:49 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 22:10 Kurumi wrote:
On June 16 2011 22:05 Munk-E wrote:
I feel bad for xkcd. He did that epicly long post and then still got lynched.

He actually defended himself and still got lynched,while iGrok just fled.

Read the QT. If we'd had an accurate vote count, I would've come back with a claim, causing chaos and a ton of shit. There were contigencies for whether or not that saved me for a day (I knew I would be dead by day 3, though there were even contingencies for if I lived past that. Me leaving the thread for an extended period accomplished its goal of letting other people talk, bring up other targets, and almost succeeded in getting xkcd lynched instead of me.

Mafia had really good planning, a completely disorganized town, and all of that was ruined by the xkcd/me fiasco and modkills.


Well it came trough a bit more to me when you were lynched that the mafia would be very organized. Still i'm still pissed about the whiteboard though. I completely misjudged how much effort you would put into being gf. Oh well at least i got a medic save again
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 16 2011 15:04 GMT
#1473
can someone post the qt :O
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2011 15:10 GMT
#1474
On June 17 2011 00:04 redFF wrote:
can someone post the qt :O

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/g8GZ8p6chTTV

I thought Meapak had posted it already lol
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Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
June 16 2011 15:14 GMT
#1475
On June 17 2011 00:10 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 00:04 redFF wrote:
can someone post the qt :O

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/g8GZ8p6chTTV

I thought Meapak had posted it already lol


jezus thats alot of pages
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2011 15:19 GMT
#1476
On June 17 2011 00:14 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 00:10 iGrok wrote:
On June 17 2011 00:04 redFF wrote:
can someone post the qt :O

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/g8GZ8p6chTTV

I thought Meapak had posted it already lol


jezus thats alot of pages

give me a sec i'll pull some relevant ones lol
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 16 2011 15:29 GMT
#1477
Also lol@Mafia calling me anti-town and useless,but trying to kill me Night 2.
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Senj
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States193 Posts
June 16 2011 15:31 GMT
#1478
GG everyone. I completely forgot about the thread in a busy week of applying / interviewing for jobs. I'm a little salty that my one or two attempts to help the town were completely wrong. : /

I'm not sure if I'll play another mafia game, seeing as I'm 2/2 on getting mod-killed. I don't want to mess any other games because I'll inevitably forget / get busy and then feel bad.
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
June 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#1479
On June 17 2011 00:31 Senj wrote:
GG everyone. I completely forgot about the thread in a busy week of applying / interviewing for jobs. I'm a little salty that my one or two attempts to help the town were completely wrong. : /

I'm not sure if I'll play another mafia game, seeing as I'm 2/2 on getting mod-killed. I don't want to mess any other games because I'll inevitably forget / get busy and then feel bad.


Aaaaaaaaaaw

well at least you won againXD
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2011 15:39 GMT
#1480
+ Show Spoiler +
Alright, here's the grand unified theory of everything.

I'm calling you by number - this just simplifies things for the purposes of this project ^^

1) Day 1 we let play out as it is. Nothing is really being done. I'll analyze Kurumi as a Red - hopefully that will provoke him. Odd #s, agree with me, not too strongly though. #8 advocate a lynch of him, or a detective check if we lynch someone else. #2/4/6 disagree with me publicly.

2) 12 hours before lynch, #2 should restress that we should be suspicious of freeloader and people who voted early. I know you're one of them, but say that you weren't thinking about it and after reading more about meta that you removed your vote. This is good because it will refocus attention elsewhere and make you seem a bit humble and slightly like a town newbie whos just trying to play well.

3) Our N1 targets will be GGQ, Jackal, and Vain. We should double-stack GGQ to be sure he dies (use two hits on him). He is by far the strongest mafia player here. I'll frame Kurumi and hope he gets checked xD

3) I have already crumbed that I am a vigilante - dw about where I will show you in time ^^. The point is that I can back up my claim. I will be calling for a DT Check on myself N1, since I can assign my role to return Vigi - hopefully this will also draw a DT into the open! I will claim at the start of D2, claiming a hit and that I was protected. I will then pull medic attention. My reasoning will be "Now town gets 2 lynches and a confirmed Blue". I'll play it semi-democratically as well - obviously I won't shoot you but I can't go against everyone if they unite (which they won't).

This also gives one of you reason to claim medic. DON'T claim it D2 or even D3 unless things really change. Clear it here first before claiming ANYTHING.

4) As a confirmed Vigi, I'll draw medic protects away from other targets who we'll be hitting. This way we won't have to worry about double-stacking after N1. I'll also have an even more powerful voice in the Town ^^.

5) Ideally, D2 will be like this: I am confirmed Vigilante by town, GGQ, Jackal, and Vain are dead, Freeloader was lynched, kurumi looks hella scummy, and our team is represented on both sides of the issue. We'll go from there.


+ Show Spoiler +
iGrok's Unified Theory of Everything Part II.

I have a suspicion that gtrsrs is blue. Possibly vigilante. He would be a good RB target.

I think Jackal is green.

We have 3 kp. We need to doublestack GGQ, both in case theres another medic and in case hes a Vigi. GGQ is a damn good town player, unlike Jackal whos a really good scum player :p. Doublestacking will also hide a KP, and let me claim that I was protected last night. This will be misinformation and will raise false hope for the town.

Vain will be a problem if he is a DT. Maybe RB him as well?

Other than that, idk... hitting treadmill seems obvious, but perhaps we should wait until N2 to do that.


+ Show Spoiler +
I know how to save myself, and cause utter confusion in town.

IF I'M IN THE LEAD OR TIED AT 6 HOURS TO LYNCH, I'm going to claim vigilante. I will use my first-post crumb as evidence. I will say that I'm sure I'll be hit by mafia tonight anyways, so that why I don't mind stepping forward. I'll offer a popular-vote kill on whoever the town as a collective wants dead. Lets do the math on that.

Amazing xkcd is lynched, and we get 3 kills at night (I suggest Kurumi, gtrsrs, and Pyo for reasons that are TOTALLY not personal :p).

That leaves 29 players alive. I will immediately be lynched D3 (unless they ask me to shoot someone we want to hit anyways lol
, or I am vigid). If I am vigi'd, GET TREADMILL LYNCHED. That should be incredibly easy. As always, wait the first 24hrs to see if anyone else brings it up, and if not then bring it up yourself.

28 alive, 5 scum (TheAwesomeAll, grush57, 35spike1, Munk-E, and aprudds). 3 hits to use. Now, who among townies are good kills?
People who can do analysis are good targets. CjrNinja is a good target. Jackal58 is a good target. Impervious is a good target. heist and supersoft are secondary targets. All of these players can do good analysis, and should be viewed as threats.

What we should be aiming for now is causing the town to lose discussion, and eventually lose hope. Once all of these people are dead, town will have no strong analyzers or strong thread voices. At this point all you have to do is follow others (maybe one of you could try to assume leadership, but it'll be up to you whether or not thats a good call.

Basically, at this point you don't really want to draw attention to yourself. I'll be drawing all the attention to me.

Another good thing is that we'll be able to see who the DTs are if they've checked me. I chose to return "Veteran" to DT checks - hopefully, a DT who has checked me will slip up and you can hit him first! Even if all my vigi claim does is find a DT, I'll consider it a success.

Day 4, we'll be sitting at 22 players, 5 of whom are mafia, and with all of the strongly analytical players dead. Like I said above, just sheep around, let town kill itself, and most importantly, HAVE PREPARED ACCUSATIONS on other players to distract town if one of us is targeted.


Some iterations of my planning as the game progressed. The rookie bandwagon came around and messed up the first one, only to make things even better. Spoiler 3 should explain how the Votecount situation completely screwed us.
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