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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 08 2011 12:03 CubEdIn wrote:
and i'm not raging or anything, i agree that my role was op and that we would've won if it weren't for bum "what time is it again?" atlarge. but i just got the role i didn't make it up.
i'm just trying to figure out what town could've done better, because if you only blame the RPGs, then mafia could've bought those, and then town would've been 100% screwed?
Black only die from the lynch, so on day five a black should have been lynched rather than a red. You already know who the reds are so the hatter should have had bombs on each of them. In addition, your bulletproofness and deconduo's vet abilitiy would have stopped enough of the kp to kill of the remaining scum and black. Your plan would have worked out, had the assassin not completed his task, but after orgolove died, you guys were in a tough spot. One alternative was to have Eiii not use his vig hit on Amber and hope to convince him to lynch a black. Its hard to tell how that would have ended up though.
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On April 08 2011 12:21 Coagulation wrote:
Did you get that out of the QT? I had fun, lol-ing at some things.
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On April 08 2011 12:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 11:56 LSB wrote:I'll post some PM's Alignment Claiming+ Show Spoiler +Original Message From kitaman27: Hehe ok. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Didn't I give tinked a different PM? And its bad for three reasons. 1) Blues didn't get the PM, and it doesn't account for people getting different PMs 2) Its not foolproof, mafia/sk can easily easily catch on. They should have figured out the 'sit' keyword by now. 3) I gave tinked a different PM (I think) he got the miller one. If anyone complains, how bout we reply "sit down, nbd" Original Message From kitaman27:
Are we allowing the quoting of mod alignment pms? I know some of them are worded differently, but that kinda seems like a dirty way to confirm oneself. Original Message From Qatol: Seems like a very strong mechanic, but whatever. Regardless, I think what you're doing is fine. The mafia seem to be at fault for their troubles. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Each team is given 10 millions Kronos. On the event that one team reaches 20 million Kronos, they are given the opportunity to buy the names of most of the people in the black market (2 reds, 2 blues, 2 blacks) The blacks were able to pull together 10 mil from their RPG sale, killing Annul, and swindling the Mafia, bringing them to 23 mil, in which the bought the names. Original Message From Qatol: Something about a mechanic where half their team is revealed for 10 million? Original Message From LSB: Well the black market was this contract style game. There are three factions right, the blacks, the blues, the reds. I granted them access to the black market where the factions could meet and trade items. I gave each of the factions a few items, the catch being that they couldn't use the items themselves. What the blacks got were RPGs, these were 1 time KPs that could be doublestaked to go through bulletproof. Day 1, the blacks decided to host an auction for all 3 of the RPGs, they started it off at 6 million which the mafia bid for, and then the blues ran in and sniped the auction for 7 million. I don't know why RoL would be mad at the RPGs... maybe his teammates weren't active enough to bid higher? Original Message From Qatol: What's this about an RPG sale? RoL is saying that is the thing he's mad about.... Original Message From LSB: 1. The controversy last night was this First, how I decide the order of the night action. I group night actions into three categories, modifying night actions (these modify other people's abilities), normal night actions, and KP The modifying night actions happen first, then the normal night actions, and finally any KP that exists take effect. Each action in each category happens simultaneously. Now, on to night 2. Tnked. Town bus driver Rol. Mafia Puppetmaster. Is able to control the target of peoples actions. Both Busing and Puppetting are modifying actions. This mean that they would happen before everything else Last night the mafia set up this situation. They fed drugs to Tnked so tnked could have two night actions and they controlled him so they could bus two people. Normally Tnked would be mind controlled. Even though both actions would 'happen simultaneously', they can still effect each other. However, the problem was that Tnked had anticipated this. I'll take us back to day 2. Earlier in the day, Tnked contacted me wondering what would happen if he bussed himself with another person and was mind controlled. I was at a situation here. If Tnked's bus happened first, the mind control would have been bused to a different person, messing up it's effect. If the mind control happened first, Tnked's action would be messed up. Considering I could not prefer one action over the other, I told Tnked that physics would break and both actions would fail due to a conflict in time. Later in the day Mafia asked me the question, "Can I mindcontrol the bus driver." I said, yes you can mindcontrol the bus driver. They sent in the actions, and then day 3 rolled around. Before day 3 occured, me and kitaman sat down and discussed the actions carefully together, we both agreed that we should follow the decision set forth to tnked and decided that the mafia plan was a bust. Now, suddenly things fell to pieces, Rol/Meapak got on and started yelling at me about how "since they could mindcontrol the bus driver, obviously the bus driver's actions happen first" and RoL ragequit because of that. Luckly I had pandain who was interested as being a replacement so that situation was solved. Currently the mafia team seems to have given up. Especially since this other contract orientated mini game I had going, the black market. The mafia lost in the mini game so the identities of Amber[light] and Orgolove were revealed. They took this cue to start suggesting to each other to just give up on the game. As a host, I'm concerned if there are members on the mafia who want to play, but are disappointed that their teammates aren't trying. In addition, the lack of a mafia team would really screw with balance and rob the third party of their chance of victory. Original Message From Qatol: I'm not sure I understand exactly what has been going on. I have literally not followed your thread at all. Could you clarify the abilities that are involved with this? Original Message From LSB: So I'm facing the fact that certain parts of the Mafia team are thinking of resigning. This stems from a few things 1) Their Night 2 actions did not go through because tnked anticipated their actions. Here is the mafia quicktopic http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TudFTADbJkmv (Just start reading about from Coeurl 137 03-30-2011 10:51 PM ET (US) 2) Loosing the black market game and having two of their member's being revealed as a result, and trying to use this as an excuse to give up. If you want a point of view from the Mafia's side, you can talk to RoL, who ragequit after finding out that his night 2 actions did not go through. Now the reason why I'm approaching you is that I don't want to make someone who doesn't want to play play. Please note, it's not like other people are having trouble. I'm just concerned since the Mafia team (mostly) isn't putting an effort enough in thread for others to play. I'm considering revamping midgame the thread, allowing mafia members to resign and then combining the remaining Mafia team with the 3rd party team, moving everyone into a new thread and starting Day 4 afresh. Same roles, just one enemy. I would like your advice on this. Thank you. Sigh, to clarify this. Meapak made the deal with the blacks, not realizing there was a 7 million RPG sale. This caused them to go over 20million marker. The reason meapak made that deal though was because he wasn't let into the black market in time which caused him to no realize what happened. I already laid out my reasoning for why your bus driver was retarded.
So the black market was imba because someone didn't read the thread and the mafia failed to properly communicate?
And you try to blame this on the hosts for Meapak not reading the bottom of his role PM?
And the Bus driver is imba because you didn't ask questions and its imba that someone who spammed my inbox with ~20 PMs knew more about the mechanic than you?
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On April 08 2011 12:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Did you get that out of the QT? I had fun, lol-ing at some things.
Yeah
You fuckheads talk alot of shit about me in those little quicktopics
fuckers.
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coag, i get WAY more shit talked about me then anyone else, purely due to my role.
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On April 08 2011 12:23 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 12:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On April 08 2011 11:56 LSB wrote:I'll post some PM's Alignment Claiming+ Show Spoiler +Original Message From kitaman27: Hehe ok. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Didn't I give tinked a different PM? And its bad for three reasons. 1) Blues didn't get the PM, and it doesn't account for people getting different PMs 2) Its not foolproof, mafia/sk can easily easily catch on. They should have figured out the 'sit' keyword by now. 3) I gave tinked a different PM (I think) he got the miller one. If anyone complains, how bout we reply "sit down, nbd" Original Message From kitaman27:
Are we allowing the quoting of mod alignment pms? I know some of them are worded differently, but that kinda seems like a dirty way to confirm oneself. Original Message From Qatol: Seems like a very strong mechanic, but whatever. Regardless, I think what you're doing is fine. The mafia seem to be at fault for their troubles. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Each team is given 10 millions Kronos. On the event that one team reaches 20 million Kronos, they are given the opportunity to buy the names of most of the people in the black market (2 reds, 2 blues, 2 blacks) The blacks were able to pull together 10 mil from their RPG sale, killing Annul, and swindling the Mafia, bringing them to 23 mil, in which the bought the names. Original Message From Qatol: Something about a mechanic where half their team is revealed for 10 million? Original Message From LSB: Well the black market was this contract style game. There are three factions right, the blacks, the blues, the reds. I granted them access to the black market where the factions could meet and trade items. I gave each of the factions a few items, the catch being that they couldn't use the items themselves. What the blacks got were RPGs, these were 1 time KPs that could be doublestaked to go through bulletproof. Day 1, the blacks decided to host an auction for all 3 of the RPGs, they started it off at 6 million which the mafia bid for, and then the blues ran in and sniped the auction for 7 million. I don't know why RoL would be mad at the RPGs... maybe his teammates weren't active enough to bid higher? Original Message From Qatol: What's this about an RPG sale? RoL is saying that is the thing he's mad about.... Original Message From LSB: 1. The controversy last night was this First, how I decide the order of the night action. I group night actions into three categories, modifying night actions (these modify other people's abilities), normal night actions, and KP The modifying night actions happen first, then the normal night actions, and finally any KP that exists take effect. Each action in each category happens simultaneously. Now, on to night 2. Tnked. Town bus driver Rol. Mafia Puppetmaster. Is able to control the target of peoples actions. Both Busing and Puppetting are modifying actions. This mean that they would happen before everything else Last night the mafia set up this situation. They fed drugs to Tnked so tnked could have two night actions and they controlled him so they could bus two people. Normally Tnked would be mind controlled. Even though both actions would 'happen simultaneously', they can still effect each other. However, the problem was that Tnked had anticipated this. I'll take us back to day 2. Earlier in the day, Tnked contacted me wondering what would happen if he bussed himself with another person and was mind controlled. I was at a situation here. If Tnked's bus happened first, the mind control would have been bused to a different person, messing up it's effect. If the mind control happened first, Tnked's action would be messed up. Considering I could not prefer one action over the other, I told Tnked that physics would break and both actions would fail due to a conflict in time. Later in the day Mafia asked me the question, "Can I mindcontrol the bus driver." I said, yes you can mindcontrol the bus driver. They sent in the actions, and then day 3 rolled around. Before day 3 occured, me and kitaman sat down and discussed the actions carefully together, we both agreed that we should follow the decision set forth to tnked and decided that the mafia plan was a bust. Now, suddenly things fell to pieces, Rol/Meapak got on and started yelling at me about how "since they could mindcontrol the bus driver, obviously the bus driver's actions happen first" and RoL ragequit because of that. Luckly I had pandain who was interested as being a replacement so that situation was solved. Currently the mafia team seems to have given up. Especially since this other contract orientated mini game I had going, the black market. The mafia lost in the mini game so the identities of Amber[light] and Orgolove were revealed. They took this cue to start suggesting to each other to just give up on the game. As a host, I'm concerned if there are members on the mafia who want to play, but are disappointed that their teammates aren't trying. In addition, the lack of a mafia team would really screw with balance and rob the third party of their chance of victory. Original Message From Qatol: I'm not sure I understand exactly what has been going on. I have literally not followed your thread at all. Could you clarify the abilities that are involved with this? Original Message From LSB: So I'm facing the fact that certain parts of the Mafia team are thinking of resigning. This stems from a few things 1) Their Night 2 actions did not go through because tnked anticipated their actions. Here is the mafia quicktopic http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TudFTADbJkmv (Just start reading about from Coeurl 137 03-30-2011 10:51 PM ET (US) 2) Loosing the black market game and having two of their member's being revealed as a result, and trying to use this as an excuse to give up. If you want a point of view from the Mafia's side, you can talk to RoL, who ragequit after finding out that his night 2 actions did not go through. Now the reason why I'm approaching you is that I don't want to make someone who doesn't want to play play. Please note, it's not like other people are having trouble. I'm just concerned since the Mafia team (mostly) isn't putting an effort enough in thread for others to play. I'm considering revamping midgame the thread, allowing mafia members to resign and then combining the remaining Mafia team with the 3rd party team, moving everyone into a new thread and starting Day 4 afresh. Same roles, just one enemy. I would like your advice on this. Thank you. Sigh, to clarify this. Meapak made the deal with the blacks, not realizing there was a 7 million RPG sale. This caused them to go over 20million marker. The reason meapak made that deal though was because he wasn't let into the black market in time which caused him to no realize what happened. I already laid out my reasoning for why your bus driver was retarded. So the black market was imba because someone didn't read the thread and the mafia failed to properly communicate? And you try to blame this on the hosts for Meapak not reading the bottom of his role PM? And the Bus driver is imba because you didn't ask questions and its imba that someone who spammed my inbox with ~20 PMs knew more about the mechanic than you?
I said the black market was our fault mostly. Your mechanic and implementation of the bus driver was obviously poor. Hence why you chose to make a "physics fail" as opposed to an actual resolution of our actions.
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On April 08 2011 12:23 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 12:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On April 08 2011 11:56 LSB wrote:I'll post some PM's Alignment Claiming+ Show Spoiler +Original Message From kitaman27: Hehe ok. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Didn't I give tinked a different PM? And its bad for three reasons. 1) Blues didn't get the PM, and it doesn't account for people getting different PMs 2) Its not foolproof, mafia/sk can easily easily catch on. They should have figured out the 'sit' keyword by now. 3) I gave tinked a different PM (I think) he got the miller one. If anyone complains, how bout we reply "sit down, nbd" Original Message From kitaman27:
Are we allowing the quoting of mod alignment pms? I know some of them are worded differently, but that kinda seems like a dirty way to confirm oneself. Original Message From Qatol: Seems like a very strong mechanic, but whatever. Regardless, I think what you're doing is fine. The mafia seem to be at fault for their troubles. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Each team is given 10 millions Kronos. On the event that one team reaches 20 million Kronos, they are given the opportunity to buy the names of most of the people in the black market (2 reds, 2 blues, 2 blacks) The blacks were able to pull together 10 mil from their RPG sale, killing Annul, and swindling the Mafia, bringing them to 23 mil, in which the bought the names. Original Message From Qatol: Something about a mechanic where half their team is revealed for 10 million? Original Message From LSB: Well the black market was this contract style game. There are three factions right, the blacks, the blues, the reds. I granted them access to the black market where the factions could meet and trade items. I gave each of the factions a few items, the catch being that they couldn't use the items themselves. What the blacks got were RPGs, these were 1 time KPs that could be doublestaked to go through bulletproof. Day 1, the blacks decided to host an auction for all 3 of the RPGs, they started it off at 6 million which the mafia bid for, and then the blues ran in and sniped the auction for 7 million. I don't know why RoL would be mad at the RPGs... maybe his teammates weren't active enough to bid higher? Original Message From Qatol: What's this about an RPG sale? RoL is saying that is the thing he's mad about.... Original Message From LSB: 1. The controversy last night was this First, how I decide the order of the night action. I group night actions into three categories, modifying night actions (these modify other people's abilities), normal night actions, and KP The modifying night actions happen first, then the normal night actions, and finally any KP that exists take effect. Each action in each category happens simultaneously. Now, on to night 2. Tnked. Town bus driver Rol. Mafia Puppetmaster. Is able to control the target of peoples actions. Both Busing and Puppetting are modifying actions. This mean that they would happen before everything else Last night the mafia set up this situation. They fed drugs to Tnked so tnked could have two night actions and they controlled him so they could bus two people. Normally Tnked would be mind controlled. Even though both actions would 'happen simultaneously', they can still effect each other. However, the problem was that Tnked had anticipated this. I'll take us back to day 2. Earlier in the day, Tnked contacted me wondering what would happen if he bussed himself with another person and was mind controlled. I was at a situation here. If Tnked's bus happened first, the mind control would have been bused to a different person, messing up it's effect. If the mind control happened first, Tnked's action would be messed up. Considering I could not prefer one action over the other, I told Tnked that physics would break and both actions would fail due to a conflict in time. Later in the day Mafia asked me the question, "Can I mindcontrol the bus driver." I said, yes you can mindcontrol the bus driver. They sent in the actions, and then day 3 rolled around. Before day 3 occured, me and kitaman sat down and discussed the actions carefully together, we both agreed that we should follow the decision set forth to tnked and decided that the mafia plan was a bust. Now, suddenly things fell to pieces, Rol/Meapak got on and started yelling at me about how "since they could mindcontrol the bus driver, obviously the bus driver's actions happen first" and RoL ragequit because of that. Luckly I had pandain who was interested as being a replacement so that situation was solved. Currently the mafia team seems to have given up. Especially since this other contract orientated mini game I had going, the black market. The mafia lost in the mini game so the identities of Amber[light] and Orgolove were revealed. They took this cue to start suggesting to each other to just give up on the game. As a host, I'm concerned if there are members on the mafia who want to play, but are disappointed that their teammates aren't trying. In addition, the lack of a mafia team would really screw with balance and rob the third party of their chance of victory. Original Message From Qatol: I'm not sure I understand exactly what has been going on. I have literally not followed your thread at all. Could you clarify the abilities that are involved with this? Original Message From LSB: So I'm facing the fact that certain parts of the Mafia team are thinking of resigning. This stems from a few things 1) Their Night 2 actions did not go through because tnked anticipated their actions. Here is the mafia quicktopic http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TudFTADbJkmv (Just start reading about from Coeurl 137 03-30-2011 10:51 PM ET (US) 2) Loosing the black market game and having two of their member's being revealed as a result, and trying to use this as an excuse to give up. If you want a point of view from the Mafia's side, you can talk to RoL, who ragequit after finding out that his night 2 actions did not go through. Now the reason why I'm approaching you is that I don't want to make someone who doesn't want to play play. Please note, it's not like other people are having trouble. I'm just concerned since the Mafia team (mostly) isn't putting an effort enough in thread for others to play. I'm considering revamping midgame the thread, allowing mafia members to resign and then combining the remaining Mafia team with the 3rd party team, moving everyone into a new thread and starting Day 4 afresh. Same roles, just one enemy. I would like your advice on this. Thank you. Sigh, to clarify this. Meapak made the deal with the blacks, not realizing there was a 7 million RPG sale. This caused them to go over 20million marker. The reason meapak made that deal though was because he wasn't let into the black market in time which caused him to no realize what happened. I already laid out my reasoning for why your bus driver was retarded. And the Bus driver is imba because you didn't ask questions and its imba that someone who spammed my inbox with ~20 PMs knew more about the mechanic than you?
We asked you if we could control both of his actions if he took the drugs, and you said yes, we could control his actions.
That was the only question we needed to ask.
You changed your mind and decided we couldn't control his actions.
Your defense that he bussed himself doesn't matter, because you said we could CONTROL HIS ACTIONS, which means that his choice of targets would be overwritten with our choice no matter who he targeted, because his targets would not go through.
You either lied to us or changed your mind after explaining it to us, and we made our decisions based on this false information.
If what you had said had been correct, both coag and jackal would have died and we would have won the IG.
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Sure, I'll resolve it then. Your mindcontroller goes to the wrong house because he was bused, and since his actions involve two targets, they are completely off and fail.
End result, your mindcontroll failed.
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And your defense on irc that we should be punished for revealing that there was a MC role is even more ludicrous because A. everyone in the thread figured out that there was an MC role long before any of us said so, and B. tnkted REVEALED THAT HE HIMSELF WAS THE BUSDRIVER, if that doesn't deserve to be punished by your "Don't reveal your role" warnings, I don't know what does.
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On April 08 2011 12:29 LSB wrote:
Sure, I'll resolve it then. Your mindcontroller goes to the wrong house because he was bused, and since his actions involve two targets, they are completely off and fail.
End result, your mindcontroll failed.
He wasn't targeted by the bus. Either by tnkted or by our choices.
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United States22154 Posts
can we stop arguing about that now? LSB made a call,the call cost the mafia two misshots and that was that.
to quote flamewheel -__-
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On April 08 2011 12:27 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 12:23 LSB wrote:On April 08 2011 12:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On April 08 2011 11:56 LSB wrote:I'll post some PM's Alignment Claiming+ Show Spoiler +Original Message From kitaman27: Hehe ok. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Didn't I give tinked a different PM? And its bad for three reasons. 1) Blues didn't get the PM, and it doesn't account for people getting different PMs 2) Its not foolproof, mafia/sk can easily easily catch on. They should have figured out the 'sit' keyword by now. 3) I gave tinked a different PM (I think) he got the miller one. If anyone complains, how bout we reply "sit down, nbd" Original Message From kitaman27:
Are we allowing the quoting of mod alignment pms? I know some of them are worded differently, but that kinda seems like a dirty way to confirm oneself. Original Message From Qatol: Seems like a very strong mechanic, but whatever. Regardless, I think what you're doing is fine. The mafia seem to be at fault for their troubles. Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Each team is given 10 millions Kronos. On the event that one team reaches 20 million Kronos, they are given the opportunity to buy the names of most of the people in the black market (2 reds, 2 blues, 2 blacks) The blacks were able to pull together 10 mil from their RPG sale, killing Annul, and swindling the Mafia, bringing them to 23 mil, in which the bought the names. Original Message From Qatol: Something about a mechanic where half their team is revealed for 10 million? Original Message From LSB: Well the black market was this contract style game. There are three factions right, the blacks, the blues, the reds. I granted them access to the black market where the factions could meet and trade items. I gave each of the factions a few items, the catch being that they couldn't use the items themselves. What the blacks got were RPGs, these were 1 time KPs that could be doublestaked to go through bulletproof. Day 1, the blacks decided to host an auction for all 3 of the RPGs, they started it off at 6 million which the mafia bid for, and then the blues ran in and sniped the auction for 7 million. I don't know why RoL would be mad at the RPGs... maybe his teammates weren't active enough to bid higher? Original Message From Qatol: What's this about an RPG sale? RoL is saying that is the thing he's mad about.... Original Message From LSB: 1. The controversy last night was this First, how I decide the order of the night action. I group night actions into three categories, modifying night actions (these modify other people's abilities), normal night actions, and KP The modifying night actions happen first, then the normal night actions, and finally any KP that exists take effect. Each action in each category happens simultaneously. Now, on to night 2. Tnked. Town bus driver Rol. Mafia Puppetmaster. Is able to control the target of peoples actions. Both Busing and Puppetting are modifying actions. This mean that they would happen before everything else Last night the mafia set up this situation. They fed drugs to Tnked so tnked could have two night actions and they controlled him so they could bus two people. Normally Tnked would be mind controlled. Even though both actions would 'happen simultaneously', they can still effect each other. However, the problem was that Tnked had anticipated this. I'll take us back to day 2. Earlier in the day, Tnked contacted me wondering what would happen if he bussed himself with another person and was mind controlled. I was at a situation here. If Tnked's bus happened first, the mind control would have been bused to a different person, messing up it's effect. If the mind control happened first, Tnked's action would be messed up. Considering I could not prefer one action over the other, I told Tnked that physics would break and both actions would fail due to a conflict in time. Later in the day Mafia asked me the question, "Can I mindcontrol the bus driver." I said, yes you can mindcontrol the bus driver. They sent in the actions, and then day 3 rolled around. Before day 3 occured, me and kitaman sat down and discussed the actions carefully together, we both agreed that we should follow the decision set forth to tnked and decided that the mafia plan was a bust. Now, suddenly things fell to pieces, Rol/Meapak got on and started yelling at me about how "since they could mindcontrol the bus driver, obviously the bus driver's actions happen first" and RoL ragequit because of that. Luckly I had pandain who was interested as being a replacement so that situation was solved. Currently the mafia team seems to have given up. Especially since this other contract orientated mini game I had going, the black market. The mafia lost in the mini game so the identities of Amber[light] and Orgolove were revealed. They took this cue to start suggesting to each other to just give up on the game. As a host, I'm concerned if there are members on the mafia who want to play, but are disappointed that their teammates aren't trying. In addition, the lack of a mafia team would really screw with balance and rob the third party of their chance of victory. Original Message From Qatol: I'm not sure I understand exactly what has been going on. I have literally not followed your thread at all. Could you clarify the abilities that are involved with this? Original Message From LSB: So I'm facing the fact that certain parts of the Mafia team are thinking of resigning. This stems from a few things 1) Their Night 2 actions did not go through because tnked anticipated their actions. Here is the mafia quicktopic http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/TudFTADbJkmv (Just start reading about from Coeurl 137 03-30-2011 10:51 PM ET (US) 2) Loosing the black market game and having two of their member's being revealed as a result, and trying to use this as an excuse to give up. If you want a point of view from the Mafia's side, you can talk to RoL, who ragequit after finding out that his night 2 actions did not go through. Now the reason why I'm approaching you is that I don't want to make someone who doesn't want to play play. Please note, it's not like other people are having trouble. I'm just concerned since the Mafia team (mostly) isn't putting an effort enough in thread for others to play. I'm considering revamping midgame the thread, allowing mafia members to resign and then combining the remaining Mafia team with the 3rd party team, moving everyone into a new thread and starting Day 4 afresh. Same roles, just one enemy. I would like your advice on this. Thank you. Sigh, to clarify this. Meapak made the deal with the blacks, not realizing there was a 7 million RPG sale. This caused them to go over 20million marker. The reason meapak made that deal though was because he wasn't let into the black market in time which caused him to no realize what happened. I already laid out my reasoning for why your bus driver was retarded. And the Bus driver is imba because you didn't ask questions and its imba that someone who spammed my inbox with ~20 PMs knew more about the mechanic than you? We asked you if we could control both of his actions if he took the drugs, and you said yes, we could control his actions. That was the only question we needed to ask. You changed your mind and decided we couldn't control his actions. Your defense that he bussed himself doesn't matter, because you said we could CONTROL HIS ACTIONS, which means that his choice of targets would be overwritten with our choice no matter who he targeted, because his targets would not go through. You either lied to us or changed your mind after explaining it to us, and we made our decisions based on this false information. If what you had said had been correct, both coag and jackal would have died and we would have won the IG.
Original Message From LSB: Whoops, all right, last night when going back through the examples, i want back to the first exception that as long as you bus yourself you cannot be mind controlled. I think I got confused when awnsering your question, sorry, so make that the new response. IE you did not nessissarily bus the mindcontroller. Show nested quote +Original Message From tnkted: Original Message From LSB: Mindcontrol and Bus are two separate powers. They will not interfere with each other outside of the exception I stated You will not be mind controlled Original Message From tnkted: Ok, what if I bus myself with Bum, and bum was DT checking someone. Would bum then DT check somebody else that GGQ tells him to? and will I be told if I am mind controlled, or will you put it in the post or what Original Message From LSB: The only way mindcontrol can be canceled is if you Bus GGQ. This is because lots of complex things happen and everything goes to pieces, and I don't want to deal with it. Original Message From tnkted:
Can i extrapolate from coag's situation?
Just tell me if this explaination is the best one for what happened to annul using the definition below:
Scum (say... GGQ) used mindcontrol. He PM'd you saying "I want Coagulation to use his ability on Annul."
Would that definition of mind control be canceled out if I was to bus myself somewhere? Or would they take control of whoever I am bussed with?
This is what I wanted to post. Original Message From LSB: You can post this PM Original Message From LSB: Both actions would cancel each other out.
Original Message From tnkted:
if i was to bus myself and someone tried to mind control me, would my bussing move me before the mind control hit me or would i be MC'd first?
I asked the specific question, and you guys didn't. He gave me an answer. If he had done the OPPOSITE of what he told me, how would that have been fair to me/town?
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On April 08 2011 12:29 LSB wrote:
Sure, I'll resolve it then. Your mindcontroller goes to the wrong house because he was bused, and since his actions involve two targets, they are completely off and fail.
End result, your mindcontroll failed.
Cool, then why did you tell tnkted that the only way to stop mind control was to bus drive himself with the mind controller? Doesn't seem like that came true.
Kind of like annul blowing up.
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@Leamonwalrus.
Go read the quicktopic. I've already explained how your questions weren't sufficiant.
And I've already explained that your plan was doomed to fail the moment the town knew there was a mind controller.
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er that might not have been the clearest pm.. let me find a better one hang on
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YOU SAID IF WE MIND CONTROLLED HIM WE COULD CONTROL HIS ACTIONS.
period.
what questions he asked you don't matter, you lied to us.
why would we ask follow up questions if you told us our plan was going to work?
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This is the one i wanted to post
Original Message From LSB: You can post this PM in thread Show nested quote +Original Message From LSB: Both actions would cancel each other out.
Original Message From tnkted:
if i was to bus myself and mafia tried to bind control me, would my bussing move me before the mind control hit me or would i be MC'd first?
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On April 08 2011 12:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 12:29 LSB wrote:
Sure, I'll resolve it then. Your mindcontroller goes to the wrong house because he was bused, and since his actions involve two targets, they are completely off and fail.
End result, your mindcontroll failed. Cool, then why did you tell tnkted that the only way to stop mind control was to bus drive himself with the mind controller? Doesn't seem like that came true. Kind of like annul blowing up.
Tnketed asked me what would happen if he bused himself and someone tried to mindcontrol him.
I awnsered.
You guys asked if it was possible to mindcontroll tnked
I awnered.
See the difference?
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you told us our plan would work, why would we have thought we needed to ask more questions?
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