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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 18 2011 15:30 GMT
#221
On March 19 2011 00:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 05:05 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 18 2011 04:48 GMarshal wrote:
On March 18 2011 04:44 kitaman27 wrote:
Since only scum know who other scum are, we could try to enact a policy to never pull to try to limit their ability to manipulate the queue.

As all toys have roles, a mass claim should probably eventually take place. That way we don't have any surprises, or at least less surprises. Some roles are going to be more pro-town than others, so that will give us something to work with, especially if they are conformable. Since the scum only have a single kp, they are going to have a hard time picking off all the good blues without the use of the queue.


Personals I disagree, I think a mass claim is a poor idea, it just gives mafia the ideal targets to hit, and we know that scum has only one kill per night, but they may have something to compensate for that (a role reverser, or role blocker, or something) I do think that claiming when we don't know what the mafia can do with this information is a poor idea.


I have a feeling a big problem will be last minute queue manipulation. For example, if someone has the ability increase the size of the incineration zone, if they want to use their ability they will have to make a fake claim that cannot be confirmable.

On March 18 2011 04:48 GMarshal wrote:
Also what do you think of my "fake vote" idea to determine deaths? Is it completely insane or is it a workable plan?


I would be willing to go along with the idea. I know scum will probably try to make excuses about how they can't change their vote because they voted early on in the day cycle. It might be hard to pull off with only a 24 hour voting cycle though.

All I have seen so far is you guys discussing boring shit relating to being safe.
Time to ball up.

##Pop Kitaman27


Orly? Vote the guy who suggests the mass role claim and policy against using pulls as too "safe". How about you address the ideas rather than telling me to "ball up".

Oh wait, you have little interest about having a discussion because already placed your vote.

*Thumbs Up
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 18 2011 15:32 GMT
#222
Please 2 people push me so that i get into position 16. I will explain why when the day ends.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 18 2011 15:36 GMT
#223
can you explain now? I'd rather not expend my PoP's without knowing that its actually going to do something good
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 01:44:14
March 18 2011 15:39 GMT
#224
RoL don't edit. Also remember guys you have 1 of EACH option - 1 Push/1 Pull.

Current Positions- Day 1
+ Show Spoiler +



20.[___________] [___________]
19.[___________] [___________]
18.[___________] [___________]

17.[___________] [___________]
16.[___________] [___________]
15.[OriginalName]
14.[Mr.Wiggles] [Kenpachi]
13.[chaoser] [Eiii]
12.[darmousseh] [___________]
11.[RoL] [bumatlarge]
10.[Meapak_Ziphh] [Rean]
9. [kitaman27] [___________]
8. [Keifru] [___________]
7. [GGQ] [___________]
6. [annul] [___________]
5. [Insanious] [___________]
4. [CubEdln] [GMarshal]
3. [___________] [___________]
2. [___________] [___________]
1. [___________] [___________]


PoPs- Day 1
+ Show Spoiler +

Mr. Wiggles
GGQ
OriginalName
Kenpachi
Meapak_Ziphh
annul
bumatlarge
kitaman27
Keifru
Insanious
chaoser
darmousseh
RoL Push kitaman27
GMarshal
Eiii
CubEdIn
Rean



Day 1 ends at 12AM ET/13:00 KST Sunday March 20th

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 18 2011 15:44 GMT
#225
On March 19 2011 00:36 GMarshal wrote:
can you explain now? I'd rather not expend my PoP's without knowing that its actually going to do something good



My ability works well when i'm within 2 spots of the red. I can give more information if needed, but I don't really want to give away my entire ability.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 18 2011 15:47 GMT
#226
@darmousseh
It doesn't matter if you explain now or when the day ends, as the mafia will only act upon it during the night. If you think that the mafia can convince the town not to push you, then your reasons will just have to be better.

Also, for someone who wants to get pushed, and claims he won't be around much to "vote", why not use your own push on yourself?

I FIND YOU VERY SUSPISHUSSS SIR!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 18 2011 15:49 GMT
#227
I was going over posts and didn't realized you explained why.

Still, my point stands. How do we know you're not a red and can switch positions with someone or something like that? And then claimed that mafia moved you in order for your ability to be less effective.

STILL SUSPISHUSSS!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 18 2011 15:49 GMT
#228
On March 19 2011 00:47 CubEdIn wrote:
@darmousseh
It doesn't matter if you explain now or when the day ends, as the mafia will only act upon it during the night. If you think that the mafia can convince the town not to push you, then your reasons will just have to be better.

Also, for someone who wants to get pushed, and claims he won't be around much to "vote", why not use your own push on yourself?

I FIND YOU VERY SUSPISHUSSS SIR!



I thought you couldn't push yourself?

Do you really think it's a good idea to reveal my whole ability right away?

I'm willing to wake up early to make sure my ability is worth it as i'll be staying up to watch GSL finals tonight anyway.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 18 2011 15:51 GMT
#229
On March 19 2011 00:49 CubEdIn wrote:
I was going over posts and didn't realized you explained why.

Still, my point stands. How do we know you're not a red and can switch positions with someone or something like that? And then claimed that mafia moved you in order for your ability to be less effective.

STILL SUSPISHUSSS!


doh, mafia toys have abilities too? How is that fair?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 18 2011 15:53 GMT
#230
On March 19 2011 00:49 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 00:47 CubEdIn wrote:
@darmousseh
It doesn't matter if you explain now or when the day ends, as the mafia will only act upon it during the night. If you think that the mafia can convince the town not to push you, then your reasons will just have to be better.

Also, for someone who wants to get pushed, and claims he won't be around much to "vote", why not use your own push on yourself?

I FIND YOU VERY SUSPISHUSSS SIR!



I thought you couldn't push yourself?


/sigh, need to read the rules more carefully.
Anyway, it does say that you cannot PoP yourself in MOST instances, so I guess that means you can't push or pull. My bad.


Do you really think it's a good idea to reveal my whole ability right away?

I'm willing to wake up early to make sure my ability is worth it as i'll be staying up to watch GSL finals tonight anyway.


I'm not saying that you should claim. But think that there are many abilities in this game, so in order for to do as you ask, you should provide a good reason to do so, for it may also be an ability that totally screws town over if you're closer to the fire. That's all I'm saying.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 18 2011 15:53 GMT
#231
Well I don't think scum would be so happy to put themselves near the fire. Plus he's being upfront about using a power when he gets to that position. I feel like scum would be sneakier about getting into that spot if they wanted it.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 18 2011 15:53 GMT
#232
On March 19 2011 00:51 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 00:49 CubEdIn wrote:
I was going over posts and didn't realized you explained why.

Still, my point stands. How do we know you're not a red and can switch positions with someone or something like that? And then claimed that mafia moved you in order for your ability to be less effective.

STILL SUSPISHUSSS!


doh, mafia toys have abilities too? How is that fair?



10. All Toys have hidden abilities aka roles. Remember this is a TOY FACTORY - strange things can happen.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 18 2011 15:55 GMT
#233
On March 19 2011 00:51 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 00:49 CubEdIn wrote:
I was going over posts and didn't realized you explained why.

Still, my point stands. How do we know you're not a red and can switch positions with someone or something like that? And then claimed that mafia moved you in order for your ability to be less effective.

STILL SUSPISHUSSS!


doh, mafia toys have abilities too? How is that fair?


Well we dont know if they do for sure, but it would make sense, seeing as they only have one kill and we all have pretty decent (or at least interesting) powers, I would not be surprised if Cube were right actually.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 18 2011 16:00 GMT
#234
LOL! i guess my role pm was a little inaccurate, don't push me yet until i hear from ace.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 18 2011 16:03 GMT
#235
Ok, it's fine to push me now, actually position #15 is fine, so I only need 1 person to push me.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 18 2011 16:07 GMT
#236
On March 19 2011 01:03 darmousseh wrote:
Ok, it's fine to push me now, actually position #15 is fine, so I only need 1 person to push me.

? you are on 12 if I push you one you'll be on 13...
Moderator
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 18 2011 16:08 GMT
#237
On March 19 2011 01:07 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 01:03 darmousseh wrote:
Ok, it's fine to push me now, actually position #15 is fine, so I only need 1 person to push me.

? you are on 12 if I push you one you'll be on 13...


no, he goes to the next available place, 15

#push darmousseh
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 18 2011 16:10 GMT
#238
fine, lets see what happens

##Push darmousseh
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#239
oh, damn, chaoser, ninja push
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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
March 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#240
On March 18 2011 11:02 OriginalName wrote:
We also need to do some sort of designation so we don't randomly over push/pull.
We need to keep that in mind especially since the dead zones are so close to the edge D1 (although i guess if their there it really wouldn't matter at that point huh?



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