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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +Also, Radfield, you posted a list of lurkers to be pressured.
On November 27 2010 21:38 Radfield wrote:
OK, we're running out of time here. There's absolutely no reason that people should be able to coast through Day 1.
Voting Pandain until he posts some content, then moving down the list of people who i know should be posting more content. If Day 1 becomes about pressure votes, so be it. We can't analyse posts if there are none....
5. Scaramanga
6. Kenpachi
7. Amber[light
11. youngminii
15. deconduo
Why no Artanis on this list? For the record, I am inclined to believe you are pro-town at this point, but I do want to know why you missed artanis.
Artanis is not on that list because he had one meaty post at that point, and because he was modkilled in the only game i remember playing with him(ie I didn't actually expect him to post more)
You'll notice that there are other players who were inactive who didn't make the list(rocco etc.) The players on that list are either people i'd played with before, or people who are highly active on TL. That list was not meant as a definitive inactivity list, it was meant as a pressure tool for people who I know can play decently.
Town Circles
We should not be checking DoctorH to try and make him the centerpiece of some grand PM circle. If he IS mafia, then he's obviously the godfather, so checking him is a waste. If we want to make a PM circle, dt's need to go about it in the same conservative fashion as always, and need to pick someone other than DH to start with. Players spotlight themselves for different reasons, but one of those reasons is because they are scum. Take a look at BB:
On November 27 2010 05:56 BrownBear wrote:
And so far, nobody has really shown themselves to be either particularly pro or anti-town. For now, I'm voting myself for mayor as a placeholder (although I actually might try to run, depending on the other candidates). I'm starting to think it might be just a great idea to just start throwing votes-for-lynch on the nonspeakers, try and get them to talk. If we can't find anyone, this game is large enough for us to get away with lynching an inactive purely based on their inactivity, at least the first day. To that end, I'm voting that the mayor should lynch georgeclooney. Get to talkin' boy.
Before Brownbear went AFK, he basically started a campaign for mayor. Yes, there is no mayor and it was stupid, but that doesn't change the fact that he still ran for it. This immediatly pegged BB as either red or blue, since townies should only be running for mayor if they are extremely strong players, which BB knows he is not(no offence, but only about 4/5 players fall into this category on this site). Turns out he was Black in this case, but that's close enough.
My town circle advice for ALL players is this: Ignore it. If it forms, it forms, but don't try to force it. This game, just like most mafia games before it, will be won or lost by scumhunting, not by PM circles. Focusing on a town circle removes responsibility from players to actually do the work of combing the thread for scummy posts. It also places all our eggs in one basket.
On November 28 2010 17:54 aidnai wrote:
Is the priority right now really to find confirmed townies to strengthen the town circle? or is it to find confirmed scum?
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All new players take note, no wiser words have been spoken. This game is about focusing on who is MAFIA, not who is town. How many times have you used the ALL function to CTRL-F through the thread for a certain players posts? I have done it dozens of times so far, and will continue to do it dozens more before i die(hopefully more than ~12hrs from now). I suggest everyone else do the same.
Night Actions:
We have two possible actions to discuss right now, DT and Medic. Hatters are on their own as always, and PV should be holding their shot for now. If you are a newb and got the mad hatter role, place a bomb tonight. Place it on either whomever you think is scummiest, or if you have no idea, whomever you think will most likely be lynched by the town (Killing the likeliest lynchee probably saves us a lynch).
Doctors protect either whomever you think is likeliest to die, or whomever you think is most valuable to town.
Dt's should be looking hard for scum. Priority #1 is finding mafia, priority #2 is building a town circle. Keep that in mind.
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On November 28 2010 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
there are a lot of things wrong with your post SR
Calling all the shots? I'm offering my thoughts, make of it what you will. But no I'm not trying to dominate the town or anything.
DT claiming to me is up to the DT and like I said I advise the DT to take a safer route (check somebody, confirm them town, communicate to me through them without giving out names.) instead of fishing for the dt to roleclaim to me. He can always check me.
You seem to be saying I want the DT to check me because i could be godfather but then you criticize me for making DTA my #1 priority DT check? If I was godfather I'd be begging the DT's to check me now. DTA is my #1 check because I feel most strongly he is scum (and I was right about BrownBear right?) there is nothing suspicious about that, don't try to make it sound like it is.
The mouthpiece should act in the town circle and not claim publicly, that's my opinion. That way the mafia don't for sure know who it is. Killing the mouthpiece forces the DT to find a new mouthpiece and claim to a second person whereas the mouthpiece can simply move from person to person, adding another layer of protection
i really really really don't think the claim was fake. it was too immediate, too stupid, and it makes very little sense on a metagame/theory level. i trust it, you don't have to.
i don't even understand what kind of pressure you're trying to put on me. you're just saying a lot of obvious stuff, almost your whole post boils down to the point "nothing is 100% safe or certain" which is obvious in this game. and it also sounds like you are trying to make it seem like I'm telling the DT what to do when I'm offering several different courses of possible action/advice (something you're not doing and that is decidedly pro-town)
again:
i'm advising the DT to go through someone else and not to roleclaim to me directly.
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From my unbiased celebrity opinion, is firstly and most importantly, under assumption that you pm'd people asking there roles in a noob mafia game is low. This was suppose to be about a game of learning, and you're not really learning much if you ask there role and then kill them after if they were mafia.
Secondly, if my memory serves me correctly you wanted to establish a town circle in the start of the game with the DT checking everyone, and you being the mayor, which is what seem's like domination of the town.
Thirdly, ofcourse you wouldn't beg the DT to check you, thats' too obvious.
Also I was wondering why you didn't pm me, asking my role.
AND DT check whom ever you suspect, don't let another person make a decision for you, they could be fucking you in the ass, its mafia.
PS: i don't suspect you at all, just wanted to ask a few questions.
On November 28 2010 07:04 KtheZ wrote:
5. Georgeclooney, are you really going to waste your vote on brownbear just cause he voted on you? I mean a counter-vote really isnt very useful to town.
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Yeah, cause out of all honesty I have no major suspicion of who is a scum or not, and would rather not swing random accusations based on inactivity. There is life outside the forum's and people get busy. So all in all, I voted for him out of pure spite, if that is good enough reasoning.
Lastly, props to Aeres (i hope i got your name right), for explaining that stuff to me.
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On November 28 2010 17:57 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 17:42 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 17:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yes it is the only reason actually Then don't share your list of people if your not willing to show the evidence A list is better then nothing And evidence can damage town if revealed to mafia. You sound like a whiny scum who is bitching because town isnt revealing enough info. Your my #1 suspect.
Explain how evidence can dmg town rather than calling me scum and i might agree with you.
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Also DocH, you getting BB right isn't an achievement, everyone voted for the same reasoning, he said shit, then went inactive, not because anyone had some hard evidence.
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On November 28 2010 21:37 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 17:57 Coagulation wrote:On November 28 2010 17:42 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 17:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yes it is the only reason actually Then don't share your list of people if your not willing to show the evidence A list is better then nothing And evidence can damage town if revealed to mafia. You sound like a whiny scum who is bitching because town isnt revealing enough info. Your my #1 suspect. Explain how evidence can dmg town rather than calling me scum and i might agree with you.
ebwop and how am i whiny? by pointing out the problem with drh's list?
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On November 28 2010 09:40 Kenpachi wrote:ALRIGHT. So Deconduo voted for me.. Show nested quote +Original Message From deconduo:
If you are a blue role, you should probably claim now because theres a 50/50 chance you'll be lynched if you don't.
I'm not trying to fish for a claim or anything, I'm just pointing this out. recently PMed me and tried to roleclaim me.. Is this your experiment?
On November 28 2010 09:53 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:50 Kenpachi wrote:alright! i appreciate you believing me  Also, we have to know what Deconduo is attempting with his experiment.. He pmed me and i said i can defend myself.. dunno if that was to mindfuck me or what Never said/PMd anything of the sort. The only PM I sent you was the one about the roleclaim.
On November 28 2010 09:56 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Was being rash. after thinking about it, i decided to publish the pm but i assume that the pm was to force a roleclaim after voting me as a form of defense ohwait you didnt quote the pm.. >_>.. well uhh yea.. i saw it as you telling me to defend myself via roleclaim
Can one of you please explain what went on here??
On November 28 2010 09:58 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
I find it interesting that people are switching to BrownBear suddenly... I mean, I agree with them, but I just wanted to see what would happen if Kenpachi was in the lead for votes...
o_o Thats what my experiment was as well. Every time someone has pushed kenpachi ahead in votes, someone else bumps up BB.
This is very true, and an excellent obs. Looking at how the voting went down:
Kenpachi 3
BB 1
this is where we stand with about 4 hours remaining, then:
Jimboslivers -- BB
DrH -- BB
KtheZ--KP
Kenpachi -- BB
Pandain -- BB
Node -- KP
EsbenPM -- BB
Youngmini -- KP
Southrawrea -- BB
Deconduo -- KP(test)
Darth -- KP(test)
It is now 8 for KP, 7 for BB
Aeres -- switch from KP to BB
ghrur -- BB
The changed vote puts BB in the chair, and the vote from ghrur throws the switch. The test by DTA and deconduo succeeds. Keep in mind that BB is a townie for these purposes, because mafia have no reason to think otherwise.
Seems to me that Kenpachi should almost certainly be checked or lynched, as his alignment gives us some quality info. Assuming he flips red, that gives us EsbenPM, Southrawrea, Aeres and ghrur as the final votes coming down the wire. Aeres with the all important switched vote becomes highly suspicious(yes he voted for KP earlier, but it was just a placeholder). The other BB voters are Pandain, DrH and Jimboslivers. If he flips green, it's a dead end since both would be townies and the mafia would likely be split between them.
This seems far too juicy to gloss over, as a little pushing could net us a huge gain. Thoughts?
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im going to vote doch for mayor if there is mayoral elections.
if theres no mayor this game i would strongly urge town to work with doch in his town circle
i feel if anyone can be trusted here with town circle he should be the one.
voted pandain
when hes mafia he lurks at start.
sure sounds like protactinium is role fishing pretty hard there..
you guys are doing a fucking fantastic job of splitting the fucking votes up 10 different ways so mafia can fucking waltz right the fuck in and fucking lynch whoever the fuck they want without having to worry at all about being exposed by voting patterns.
town needs to pick 1 fucking person. and actually get information from vote numbers and reactions.
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vote pandain
and watch mafia bandwagon get to work.
brownbear is a grab bag skilled player.regardless of role.
1 day he does a good job and contributes alot
next day he shits on everything in his path.
then hes inactive for 5 days
you never know what to expect from brownbear
the annul pm doesnt look very solid.
anyone can accept that there is no definitive way to prove someone role and just base the way they convey other players based 100% on instincts.
lynch annul i dont care but make sure everyone votes for him.
if you guys are gonna lynch people for assuming doch is town
we should be lynching the shit out of your claimed medic.
your splitting the votes.
there are other people who are better candidates."
doch i would really like to see you vote. ....
unless you are gonna campaign to lynch "Rocco10925"
its only questionable when you start posting pm's that are not relevent to scum hunting that are intended to do more damage then good.
well what he is doing is pretty smart. considering how many newbies there are here.
Here's some of Coag's posts
Notice that he's done nothing through this game, his posts have no content. Similarly to how DrH post's a suspect list with 0 resoning, Coag shoots peoples idea's for lynch's down with no explanation at all and when he offers someone to be lynched its just a wild acusation. The only thing he's done is back DrH, both at the start of the game and when i called DrH out.
I ask why when i call DrH for info about his list, I am met with Coags post to belittle my argument which, again, has no reasoning in it at all.
I asked why DrH couldn't reveal his info and he said it would hurt more than help us, i asked why that is so, as more people thinking about the same info can come to a better conclusion and i am met with no answer but called scum instead.
It isn't me who is acting scummy Coag, its you, hiding behind a wall of fuck all content posts and attacks. Unless your posting improves it's pretty obvious that your mafia
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That assumes Kenpachi is red. If he isn't, then the data is actually meaningless. If the voting WAS between two townies, then mafia could vote whoever they want, making any seeming "switches" actually useless. Keep this in mind, if we are going to lynch kenpachi tommorow it should be in addition to any analysis, not because of just this. Obviously this is a plausible scenario, that mafia tried to save kenpachi when the vote leaned towards him being lynched, but should we lynch kenpachi just based off that? No.
Furthormore, let's take a look at the votes that DID change the vote.
KtheZ Towards kenpachi)
I think I'll vote for kenpachi. He has not been an asset to town, so either he is being lazy or he is not trying to help town.
The other leading candidate for lynch, pandain, at least has taken the time to post analysis of some people.
I would much rather lynch a person who is not productive than a person who actively contributes.
decent i suppose
Esben(even tie for brownbear)
On November 28 2010 08:12 EsbenPM wrote:
Hmm, i'm going to vote Brownbear for now as his action seems the strangest so far. As people has pointed out all he has done is trying to get discussion going and then disapear with no follow up what so ever. While the case aganist him is kindda weak i feel lynching an inactive(Who supposedly played the same way and was mafia) is better then lynching players who are actually posting and can be caught at a later time.
Besides him the main candidates Kenpachi and Pandain just seems like people who have become targetted because there are no one else. Kenpachi have acted strange/dum, but i feel like people are looking too hard for something that aint there, and the main case aganist pandain was his inactivity which he has cleared up, so for now i don't want to vote for either of them.
Decent reason, a bit weak however since he admits the case is "weak" but then clarifies he wants to lynch an inactive. Slightly suspicious.
Youngminiitowards kenpachi)
On November 28 2010 08:50 youngminii wrote:lol DrH, role fishing like that in a learning game, not a very cool move. Out of Kenpachi and BB who seem to be the lynch candidates (besides me kinda) I'd have to go for Kenpachi. I don't really want to vote for any of them but Kenpachi's cluelessness/reluctance to defend himself is more worrying than the reasons against BB. Sorry
Slightly weak. Just being clueless is hardly a reason to lynch someone, unless they're a vet and it's just outright unfathomable for them to do that. But again, says that's more worrying than the reasons against BB, which is slightly right. We didn't really have a strong read on either player, just a decent one.
Aerestied)
Now THIS is actually somewhat suspicious. Let's take a look:
On November 28 2010 09:24 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:On November 28 2010 09:07 Aeres wrote:On November 28 2010 08:56 aidnai wrote:On November 28 2010 08:31 SouthRawrea wrote:I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive.  Actually, I am switching to DTA now. Maybe your vote could have an effect. I think Deconduo might switch to DTA as well, based on his analysis below. I am voting DTA because of his confusing and spammy posting, plus his weak accusation of DrH. On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure. Your points are valid, but at this stage in the day, your vote for DTA won't really do anything, to be honest. I'm gonna be pointing the FoS* at him starting Night 1, but I'd say you're better off voting for either BrownBear or Kenpachi right now, since it's pretty likely one of them will be lynched tonight. + Show Spoiler [For the newer players] +FoS is the Finger of Suspicion. It's a term used to indicate that the user of the term is keeping a close eye on the target. It's not meant to indicate that they should be lynched, but rather that their actions and behavior should be more closely monitored than they would be otherwise. hello aeres. please tell me why you havent taken your vote off me? I said my vote wasn't absolute, because I wouldn't have been able to foresee major events happening between the time of my vote and the lynching. I still think you're a prime candidate for a lynch, due in part to your past apathy and your current fishiness. The annul analysis seems most convincing in my eyes, so I would have voted for him if it weren't for the fact that it's only you and BrownBear that are viable lynchees tonight. Since I'd rather make my vote matter, and because I'm not sold on BrownBear just yet, my vote remains on you. I just realized that I've been particularly antagonistic to you in every game I've played with you. Understand, I'm not holding a grudge, but I'm just working off what I know about your behavior and tendencies. No hard feelings.
Previous post, states he would like annul lynched, says since he's not convinced on brownbear he'll vote kenpachi. Leaves it open though.
On November 28 2010 09:44 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 09:37 Kenpachi wrote:On November 28 2010 09:24 Aeres wrote:On November 28 2010 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:On November 28 2010 09:07 Aeres wrote:On November 28 2010 08:56 aidnai wrote:On November 28 2010 08:31 SouthRawrea wrote:I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive. Actually, I am switching to DTA now. Maybe your vote could have an effect. I think Deconduo might switch to DTA as well, based on his analysis below. I am voting DTA because of his confusing and spammy posting, plus his weak accusation of DrH. On November 28 2010 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Theres a lot of people voting that aren't giving explanation for their votes. Whenever you place a vote you should definitely give reasoning behind it.
My opinions on possible lynch candidates:
1) I don't have a whole lot of experience with BrownBear, but the last game I was in with him he was pretty inactive and he was mafia.
2) Pandain is active, no need to vote for him anymore imo.
3)Kenpachi is pretty nooby. He was inactive in both games he played, town in one maf in the other. Not much to go on here.
4) Don't know anything about scara, regardless he should be posting more.
5)DarthThienAn: Spammed a lot early game which I didn't like because he created confusion. Calling for medic protection, pretending to run for mayor etc. doesn't help in games when theres a lot of new people. Even some vets got confused. I've got my eye on him.
6) Youngminii seems to be a decent player, should be posting more. As such I'm changing my vote to him to pressure. Your points are valid, but at this stage in the day, your vote for DTA won't really do anything, to be honest. I'm gonna be pointing the FoS* at him starting Night 1, but I'd say you're better off voting for either BrownBear or Kenpachi right now, since it's pretty likely one of them will be lynched tonight. + Show Spoiler [For the newer players] +FoS is the Finger of Suspicion. It's a term used to indicate that the user of the term is keeping a close eye on the target. It's not meant to indicate that they should be lynched, but rather that their actions and behavior should be more closely monitored than they would be otherwise. hello aeres. please tell me why you havent taken your vote off me? I said my vote wasn't absolute, because I wouldn't have been able to foresee major events happening between the time of my vote and the lynching. I still think you're a prime candidate for a lynch, due in part to your past apathy and your current fishiness. The annul analysis seems most convincing in my eyes, so I would have voted for him if it weren't for the fact that it's only you and BrownBear that are viable lynchees tonight. Since I'd rather make my vote matter, and because I'm not sold on BrownBear just yet, my vote remains on you. I just realized that I've been particularly antagonistic to you in every game I've played with you. Understand, I'm not holding a grudge, but I'm just working off what I know about your behavior and tendencies. No hard feelings. I dont understand why im more fishier than BrownBear.. Doing what i normally do every game. You should actually not suspect me if youre basing your vote on my behavior and tendency. And i voted for Annul before BrownBear because i also suspect him. Id rather have another person get lynched instead of me so i had to vote BrownBear. If I may be candid, it's not that I think you're Mafia, it's that I felt you were a liability regardless of your alignment. If you ARE Mafia, then lynching you is obviously a thumbs up for the town, but based on my past observations of your play, your town game is... lacking. But... you have a point there. I've decided to be a gentleman and give you the benefit of the doubt. Your posting frequency and quality have definitely improved from Haunted, so I'll let you off the hook. My vote will be changed to BrownBear now. But now the onus is on you. Convince me that this vote switch is warranted, and prove to me that you're not the couch potato you were in October! =D Show nested quote +and i didnt even realize you that you were going against me in every game >_> ... whoops. *hides*
Then here he changes. The most striking thing to note is that Aeres left himself an out, that he could be convinced, a convienant excuse for mafia if kenpachi was indeed mafia, since if kenpachi got too many votes he could change. The only vote in between was Darth voting kenpachi, making it 8-7, 7 for brownbear. When aeres changed it became 7-8, 7 for Kenpachi. Now, can people chane their minds? Certainly. But this is just something to keep in mind.
There is something in support of aeres, let's post it here. This is where he originally voted kenpachi,
On November 28 2010 04:00 Aeres wrote:
##Unvote femalewheel (lol)
##Vote Kenpachi
Another placeholder, but more concrete this time. Kenpachi's play has been apathetic at best in recent games, so for now, I'll vote for him. Nothing definite, but until / unless some major development occurs in the thread or in PMs or something, I'm all for the lynch of a confirmed lurker.
Here it is in accordance with the whole "he isn't that good anyway", so yay for aeres. Furthormore, it actually tied kenpachi in the lead(he was below previously), so it doesn't make much sense if he voted kenpachi to put him in the lead so early in the game. Right now I say Aeres is cleared from suspicion.
Ghrur:
On November 28 2010 09:50 ghrur wrote:
Well, Pandain's posted since I was last on, and now it seems it's between Kenpachi and Brownbear.
Let's compare:
Kenpachi has been open
Kenpachi is really trying to improve
Kenpachi has been more active in the thread
Brownbear also seems to be less concentrated because he apparently didn't even read the OP.
Overall, I think that, from a perspective outside the game, we should keep Kenpachi in so he can learn more because this is a bootcamp game.
From a perspective inside the game, despite Kenpachi's lacking history, Brownbear honestly isn't a better town candidate. He's just as, if not more, clueless talking about voting for mayor and such. Furthermore, he hasn't even tried to clear his name. He hasn't even been shown to be on. EZ choice imo.
Decent reason, if a bit silly for bringing the "let him learn!" argument.
Conclusion: I believe this was most likely between two townies. Furthormore, Kenpachi being checked is a no-no, as there's a good chance he's a second chaos ensurgent because of his claim of "special townie." So DT checking him would bring no good. The votes seem to be decent enough, and even though Aeres seems suspicious at first glance, is actually in accordance with his previous thoughts.
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On November 28 2010 22:38 Pandain wrote:
That assumes Kenpachi is red. If he isn't, then the data is actually meaningless. If the voting WAS between two townies, then mafia could vote whoever they want, making any seeming "switches" actually useless. Keep this in mind, if we are going to lynch kenpachi tommorow it should be in addition to any analysis, not because of just this. Obviously this is a plausible scenario, that mafia tried to save kenpachi when the vote leaned towards him being lynched, but should we lynch kenpachi just based off that? No.
Conclusion: I believe this was most likely between two townies. Furthormore, Kenpachi being checked is a no-no, as there's a good chance he's a second chaos ensurgent because of his claim of "special townie." So DT checking him would bring no good. The votes seem to be decent enough, and even though Aeres seems suspicious at first glance, is actually in accordance with his previous thoughts.
Uh, nope. If he's checked he will turn up green, red or blue.
Green: Townie, traitor or godfather.
Red: Mafia or Miller
Blue: Blue or Godfather
If he turns up green, I suggest lynching him. Considering the way he's been playing I find it HIGHLY unlikely he's a normal townie.
If he turns up red, then we lynch him obviously.
If he turns up blue then its interesting. I feel genuine blue or godfather are both possibilities considering what he's been doing. It would also make sense for the mafia to go all out to ensure he doesn't get lynched day 1.
If he is mafia, holy shit look at all the information we know have. Its pretty likely that a huge number of people on the BB bandwagon are mafia. So yes, definitely check him.
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On November 28 2010 21:48 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 21:37 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 17:57 Coagulation wrote:On November 28 2010 17:42 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 17:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
yes it is the only reason actually Then don't share your list of people if your not willing to show the evidence A list is better then nothing And evidence can damage town if revealed to mafia. You sound like a whiny scum who is bitching because town isnt revealing enough info. Your my #1 suspect. Explain how evidence can dmg town rather than calling me scum and i might agree with you. ebwop and how am i whiny? by pointing out the problem with drh's list?
Evidence CAN help town, absolutely. However, it is not good to just let mafia know exactly what you are thinking, especially since it is night phase, the mafia are doing their business right now. Dr.H said that he could give more information when day breaks.
You absolutely are whining. Dr.H has responded to your posts and given you his logical reasoning for withholding information for now. As you said yourself, you are not an experienced mafia player, but take note that mafia shouldn't know what town is thinking at all times, they can use it for their own good, especially during the night. Town needs to learn everything eventually, but mafia shouldn't gain more info at night.
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Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia.
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On November 28 2010 23:43 SouthRawrea wrote:
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia.
Fuck it, mod kill please
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On November 28 2010 23:52 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 23:43 SouthRawrea wrote:
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia. Fuck it, mod kill please
Or i could really fuck town up and say something like im the dt, just because this kid pissed me off
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On November 29 2010 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 23:52 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 23:43 SouthRawrea wrote:
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia. Fuck it, mod kill please Or i could really fuck town up and say something like im the dt, just because this kid pissed me off
Are you saying you'd try and sabotage the town because of petty vengeance?
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On November 29 2010 00:39 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 23:52 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 23:43 SouthRawrea wrote:
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia. Fuck it, mod kill please Or i could really fuck town up and say something like im the dt, just because this kid pissed me off Are you saying you'd try and sabotage the town because of petty vengeance?
That and many games of build up frustration, pretty much
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On November 29 2010 00:41 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 00:39 Aeres wrote:On November 29 2010 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 23:52 Scaramanga wrote:On November 28 2010 23:43 SouthRawrea wrote:
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia. Fuck it, mod kill please Or i could really fuck town up and say something like im the dt, just because this kid pissed me off Are you saying you'd try and sabotage the town because of petty vengeance? That and many games of build up frustration, pretty much
Wait no i have a better one scratch the last one
Im new to mafia, is dt and important role i should keep to myself?
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Oh i just checked SouthRawrea, he came up red
parting gift people
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On November 29 2010 01:13 Scaramanga wrote:
Oh i just checked SouthRawrea, he came up red
parting gift people
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EPT
