Twelve teams are splited into three groups of four teams Each of these groups will play in a Double Round-Robin format Top two teams per group advance to the next stage Bottom two teams are eliminated All matches are Bo1
Rumble Stage
Six remaining teams play in another Double Round-Robin format Top four teams advance to Knockout Stage Bottom two teams are eliminated All matches are Bo1
Knockout Stage
Four teams Single Elimination Single-Elimination bracket All matches are Bo5.
LCK (Korea): T1 LPL (China): Royal Never Give Up LEC (Europe): G2 Esports LCS (North America): TBD CBLoL (Brazil): Red Canids LCO (Oceania): ORDER VCS (Vietnam): Unicorns of Love LJL (Japan): Detonation FocusMe LLA: (Latin America): Team Aze PCS: (SEA/Taiwan): PSG Talon TCL (Turkey): Istanbul Wild Cats
msi starting today. the whole thing behind lpl not coming to msi is really bullshit though. their excuse for not attending just went to shit when the asian games got postponed entirely, so there isnt any reason now for rng to not fly to korea immediately. yet now all teams have to play on 35 ping to accommodate rng and apparently riot just enforced a mask policy for players in busan. not only does korea itself not require such policy, its not even in riot's own msi rulebook. players with glasses have to play with masks on and periodically wipe their glasses when it inevitably fogs up, meanwhile rng players will be chilling in their accommodation in china. riot doing literally everything they can short of handing the trophy to rng on a silver platter to try and give rng the title.
Yeah, MSI is a big mess, not sure why Riot decided to do it this way, they're also back tracking on the masks, how could they not clarify such an important thing. But I don't think it's enough to beat T1.
day 1 provided enough evidence that as long as its an lpl team, riot doesnt give a fuck about enforcing rules. rng played in their accommodation without face cams, a ref, headsets or msi monitors (as per riot's own rulebook). rng literally playing in scrim conditions while the rest of the tourney plays on a shaky artificial ping system just to accommodate rng. a couple of the rng players were literally barefoot during the game. riot actually has a rule against this also, not that it practically makes a difference to performance, but it speaks to the attitude rng players have about maintaining competitive integrity. the whole thing is a farce and rng has absolutely no shame.
not to mention the schedules for groups is rigged as well because rng is finishing their group matches earlier than lck teams 2 years in a row. if you look at how the 2021 schedule was set and apply the same methodology to this year, rng and t1's schedules were supposed to have been swapped. yet t1 finishes their group matches 2 days after rng still
i havent watched any lcs except finals highlights but how shit must the rest of lcs have been if eg was the one to advance? danny is god awful. is he always this bad? i think this ezreal performance is actually the worst pro ez ive seen in my life
On May 11 2022 22:13 chipmonklord17 wrote: shout out to whoever at Riot okayed the "zero ping" CISCO internet ad during MSI. You the real MVP
No way, they didn't really show this, did they? Man, this MSI is just pure comedy, this is what IPL and IEM were sacrificed for. Especially because the 'NA sucks' meme is being kept alive, G2 played like monkeys but it's still not enough.
On May 11 2022 22:13 chipmonklord17 wrote: shout out to whoever at Riot okayed the "zero ping" CISCO internet ad during MSI. You the real MVP
No way, they didn't really show this, did they? Man, this MSI is just pure comedy, this is what IPL and IEM were sacrificed for. Especially because the 'NA sucks' meme is being kept alive, G2 played like monkeys but it's still not enough.
Of course they still played it. They're still a sponsor so they gotta make that money. You'd think SOMEONE would have redone the commercial to get rid of references to "zero ping plays". Even if its just mute the voice for that single line
LMAO, they changed RNG's score to 0-0, making all the effort of their games completely void. wtf is Riot doing? bizarre decision-making and feels so bad for the players to have to play games again. also rip Gala Penta
On May 13 2022 15:02 AzAlexZ wrote: LMAO, they changed RNG's score to 0-0, making all the effort of their games completely void. wtf is Riot doing? bizarre decision-making and feels so bad for the players to have to play games again. also rip Gala Penta
I don't know if it's bizarre to want to replay games that were played with a ping disparity as claimed. It's awkward and I feel like it probably wouldn't have significantly changed any results, but there's definitely a competitive integrity argument to be made there.
The bizarre thing to me is the decisions that led up to artificially creating a ping disparity in the first place.
the irony of riot claiming games had to be remade because of competitive integrity, but rng is playing from home without refs or headsets. rng should not be playing in msi, period. remaking these games is damage control; nothing to do with preserving competitive integrity
Of course RNG should be playing in MSI. They should be playing AT MSI. Asian games gets cancelled and they should instantly get flown in. They could start their games today to give them time to adjust for jetlag and be REALLY 0-0 today and have everyone on LAN
lmao what a clown show, RNG put out a "statement" (tweet) about how they were given unfair treatment. Yes, RNG are the true victims here
A more complete statement here. Still boils down to "they're the victims here" even though they are being especially catered to by being allowed to participate in the first place.
That Caps play minute 5 was disgusting, dude is making a good case for best midlaner at MSI.
lmao what a clown show, RNG put out a "statement" (tweet) about how they were given unfair treatment. Yes, RNG are the true victims here
They are victims, the have nothing to gain from this change and everything to lose. I don't think anyone with a shred of credibility would disagree that RNG should stomp these teams. It sucks big time for their opponents, who played a better team with ping like molasses. At least they have a chance to grab wins, a single win vs RNG will flip this group completely around.
Everyone should be pointing fingers at Riot, they are taking the 'small indie company' too literally. This fake ping solution is garbage and they even managed to implement it incorrectly.
Edit: Game 2 vs EG is another Caps highlight reel, this man is on a mission.
You cannot be the victims in a situation where you are being given unique treatment that no one else would get because that unique treatment isn't perfect. They are beyond lucky that Riot didn't tell them that its a LAN, if you can't make it you can't make it (like Vietnam for the past 2 years), or tell them that they're just going to have to connect in and get what they get.
On May 14 2022 22:14 chipmonklord17 wrote: You cannot be the victims in a situation where you are being given unique treatment that no one else would get because that unique treatment isn't perfect. They are beyond lucky that Riot didn't tell them that its a LAN, if you can't make it you can't make it (like Vietnam for the past 2 years), or tell them that they're just going to have to connect in and get what they get.
Ofc they can be victims despite being given preferential treatment. The 35 ping rule was added to give equal disadvantage to both teams, how was RNG supposed to know that Riot would fuck it up for their opponents (and not just 1 game, but the entire first round robin). Don't get me wrong, their opponents are bigger victims, they didn't even get 35 ping, but Riot messed this up for everyone.
It so tragic, poor RNG. I've never seen such injustice. Imagine not being able to attend a tournament and expecting to be disqualified due to, well, i guess, not attending. Luckily, Riot understood the pain of RNG, or the chinese region as a whole, and gave them an opportunity to participate, while the only downside was that all other teams had to play with cancerous circumstances through no fault of their own. But, of course, since everyone has cancerous circumstances, all is equal and thus fair. Thank the righteous spirit of Riot.
i think t1 is still considered favourites despite the good showing from g2 today. if g2 beats t1 in their rematch then that would be a surprise but throughout the entire spring season at least t1 has often lost game 1 and come back to win games 2/3 and i expect more of the same this time too.
Have they discussed what would happen in the hypothetical that RNG gets knocked out of groups (very unlikely) or in the semis (possible if RNG plays T1 or G2)? Do they let the finals get played on LAN or do they just say the players are "used to" the ping
On May 21 2022 00:34 evilfatsh1t wrote: i think t1 is still considered favourites despite the good showing from g2 today. if g2 beats t1 in their rematch then that would be a surprise but throughout the entire spring season at least t1 has often lost game 1 and come back to win games 2/3 and i expect more of the same this time too.
I'm sure you are right, T1 even looked good in a lot of plays. Exciting that g2 is probably the next betting favorite.
Gumayusi is looking really off this tournament, which has surprised me. He's gotten caught out numerous times, and even a team like T1 will be punished for that. I think if they pull it together, they still have the best shot at winning MSI.
Idk, PSG just has to beat EG in the rematch to get a tiebreaker (assuming EG wins no more games which is a fair assumption) and PSG still plays the Buffalo. Assuming PSG beat SGB tomorrow it will most likely be a bo1 for the 4th place spot on tuesday
On May 23 2022 17:48 evilfatsh1t wrote: wowwwww g2 lost to psg again. bye bye eg lul
G2 drafts are just utter garbage. I don't understand why they keep running this Kalista, she is useless if you don't play her perfectly vs heavy engage comps (Guma has looked terrible on her as well). And I think Caps died with flash up 5 times this game.
yeah i think g2 should just be drafting heavy teamfight comps. none of their games have shown that theyre good at using lane priority and outmacroing. even the t1 game they got completely outmaneuvered until their comp eventually allowed them to just force an engage and win.
this rumble stage is crazy. inconsistent performances from all teams but making for some entertaining matches. would have been cool to see saigon take the rng game. t1 suddenly remembers how to play spring season style and rolls g2, meanwhile g2 cant seem to find their rhythm anymore
On May 23 2022 20:36 evilfatsh1t wrote: this rumble stage is crazy. inconsistent performances from all teams but making for some entertaining matches. would have been cool to see saigon take the rng game. t1 suddenly remembers how to play spring season style and rolls g2, meanwhile g2 cant seem to find their rhythm anymore
I think today was good showcase of the quality difference between teams: when the fiesta starts, T1 and RNG can pull it back, other teams can't. But T1 is not as consistent as RNG, they have the early macro and laning power but lack overall macro (which is insane, they have Faker and Keria, how is their macro so poor at times).
Lessons I've learned this MSI: East grows stronger, understanding their opponents, while the West gets exposed hard after the first showings. It feels like EU and NA burned hard, while KR and CN just warmed up slowly.
On May 28 2022 19:24 Uldridge wrote: Lessons I've learned this MSI: East grows stronger, understanding their opponents, while the West gets exposed hard after the first showings. It feels like EU and NA burned hard, while KR and CN just warmed up slowly.
These were some pretty depressing 2 days for the West, felt inevitable after the second half of the rumble stage but it still hurts.
so happy t1 rolled g2 like this. feels like good payback for the times g2 knocked t1 out of tournaments. i hope t1 3-0 rng as well. would be so satisfying to see rng get smacked in their own practice house
Was it really that depressing for EG though? Sure I could see wanting them to win a few more games here and there but they showed up trying to prove they were the 4th best team here and they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt they were. All in all a successful tournament for EG. Yes taking exactly 1 game off of major regions isn't good, but EG was supposed to be having a developmental split with a brand new to the game mid laner in the first place.
shocking draft from t1 in game 5. dont know why they insisted on ahri when liss has already shown in the series that it completely nullifies ahri's presence, and not banning gwen when its such a failsafe pick for bin. performances were bad all over the map in game 5 too but you cant do much when you give up kill pressure in every lane you have just to hope to scale to late game. the style of drafting in game 5 was the exact opposite to what t1 obsesses about. sad
Yes, completely agree. Draft was a complete disaster. You don't pick Jayce into Gwen, when Zeus has been known to play better champs into it. I honestly thought Lee would've been a better pick for Oner as well, the champ in itself did not looks convincing to me at all the entire time it was played, where Lee almost always showed up. Ahri pick was just blasphemy, really don't understand what the thought process was there. Yuumi pick was fine, Zilean might've been better, but I'm not sure what Jhin was supposed to be.
Their entire comp needs to stomp early and Wukong doesn't have that much agency pre 6. Fact that Jhin/Yuumi lost lvl 2 (or was it 1 even??) vs Trist/Rakan is just a disaster.
On May 28 2022 22:28 chipmonklord17 wrote: Was it really that depressing for EG though? Sure I could see wanting them to win a few more games here and there but they showed up trying to prove they were the 4th best team here and they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt they were. All in all a successful tournament for EG. Yes taking exactly 1 game off of major regions isn't good, but EG was supposed to be having a developmental split with a brand new to the game mid laner in the first place.
If you watched the games, then EG did look fine. But history won't be kind when people forget about the details in a few months/years, people will only look at the scoreline, i.e. they got destroyed by G2/RNG and only picked up 1 win vs T1.
RNG really shutting the haters in CN up, including me (I thought they were 3rd best team this LPL this split), but Xiaohu and the boys have somehow managed to do it again.
On May 29 2022 22:09 Uldridge wrote: Yes, completely agree. Draft was a complete disaster. You don't pick Jayce into Gwen, when Zeus has been known to play better champs into it. I honestly thought Lee would've been a better pick for Oner as well, the champ in itself did not looks convincing to me at all the entire time it was played, where Lee almost always showed up. Ahri pick was just blasphemy, really don't understand what the thought process was there. Yuumi pick was fine, Zilean might've been better, but I'm not sure what Jhin was supposed to be.
Their entire comp needs to stomp early and Wukong doesn't have that much agency pre 6. Fact that Jhin/Yuumi lost lvl 2 (or was it 1 even??) vs Trist/Rakan is just a disaster.
expecting to stomp early with that comp is impossible. they were hoping that the game kinda goes like game 4 and the lanes dont blow up in the early game. thats still hoping for a lot for a team that isnt eg and actually knows how to use lane pressure
How were they ever going to get a leash on Gwen, even if the game went similar to G4? With this kind of comp you're begging for the Gwen to hardcarry. Sadly, with Faker being abused in the midlane, their only chances were in the botlane, which already screwed up before 5 minutes. RNG had everything in place to take it slowly, T1 had to accelerate. Also, I don't think Xiaohu cared if he got a few shockblasts to the face during standoffs, if it means he gets to E in, root and self ult (or ult Jhin/Ahri/Jayce and zhonyas), everyone else then has the ability to get on the other people. I still can't figure out how the Jayce fits in the comp or how they think the game would play out post 20 minutes.
On May 29 2022 21:38 evilfatsh1t wrote: shocking draft from t1 in game 5. dont know why they insisted on ahri when liss has already shown in the series that it completely nullifies ahri's presence, and not banning gwen when its such a failsafe pick for bin. performances were bad all over the map in game 5 too but you cant do much when you give up kill pressure in every lane you have just to hope to scale to late game. the style of drafting in game 5 was the exact opposite to what t1 obsesses about. sad
T1 almost literally lost G1 and G5 in draft. Arguably G3 as well, although I saw some path to victory in that game, theoretically. How did they not get how strong Gwen was? And they just kept letting Wei get comfort picks. Who's champ pool were they even pressuring? I don't know.
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