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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
April 19 2014 22:18 GMT
#1261
On April 20 2014 07:10 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:04 TitusVI wrote:
seriously if one team is better then the other it shouldn't loose a best of 3. And if it looses, the better team has won.

That is not how it works. Being the better team means you have a better chance of winning. This chance is never 100%. Obviously the bigger the number of games in a series, the higher is the probability that the team which has the higher chance of winning actually wins. Do some betting, and you will see the truth of this.


This may be true, but there is also another philosophy in other sports that you can take. In boxing there is only one "game" where even the underdog can win. And still the underdog who just had a lucky K.O- hit immediatly is the new world champion.
Science>Mechanics
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 19 2014 22:18 GMT
#1262
Bans: Ryze, Jax, Thresh
Bans: Kha'zix, Soraka, Nocturne

Picks: Lucian, Elise, Morgana, Trundle, Leblanc
Picks: Mundo, Lulu, Leona, Graves, Xin Zhao
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 19 2014 22:18 GMT
#1263
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.
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Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
April 19 2014 22:18 GMT
#1264
Curse has a pretty beastly team fight with 4 heals, but Mundo is just asking to be dived repeatedly with no flash.
Nom nom nom...
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 19 2014 22:19 GMT
#1265
On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue.


It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 19 2014 22:20 GMT
#1266
On April 20 2014 07:17 Gator wrote:
what is bunnyfufu's 3rd choice?

Karma I guess, he hasn't really deviated from thresh/leona ever but when he has very rarely it's been karma.
Glorious SEA doto
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 22:23:27
April 19 2014 22:22 GMT
#1267
I hate this meta so much, it's so not representative of what I see in solo q and doesn't help me learn anything early game

On April 20 2014 07:19 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue.


It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.

and that's why the format blows.[/QUOTE]

In your completely subjective opinion.

Watch the games.
In Inca we trust
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 22:22:40
April 19 2014 22:22 GMT
#1268
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.
On April 20 2014 07:19 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue.


It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.

and that's why the format blows.
liftlift > tsm
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 19 2014 22:23 GMT
#1269
On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.


So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner.

Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.
Administrator@TL_Zess
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 19 2014 22:24 GMT
#1270
On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.


So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner.

Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.

Nice strawman, try again plz.
liftlift > tsm
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 19 2014 22:24 GMT
#1271
Lol people only give C9 63% chance of winning?
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 19 2014 22:25 GMT
#1272
On April 20 2014 07:24 AUGcodon wrote:
Lol people only give C9 63% chance of winning?

Curse has pretty large fan base.
liftlift > tsm
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 19 2014 22:25 GMT
#1273
On April 20 2014 07:24 AUGcodon wrote:
Lol people only give C9 63% chance of winning?


I thought it was 83?
In Inca we trust
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
April 19 2014 22:25 GMT
#1274
On April 20 2014 07:11 boesthius wrote:
I'm going to start cracking down on the lomo's and shitter and general shitposting in the LoL forums from now on. If you can't debate without saying lmao ur so fucking retarded lomo ur such a shitter, then dont post.


Thank you so much. Next stop would be maybe to be a little less lenient with the veteran posters. People like cheep get away with a bit much x.x, even with all they add to the discussion.
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#1275
On April 20 2014 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.


So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner.

Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.

Nice strawman, try again plz.

I'm taking the logical extension of your argument for the lowest variance method of finding the best team, which is in fact a Swiss bracket.
Might as well just not bother airing it and have the teams play on the ranked 5s ladder and then everyone can spectate!


LCS doesn't exist to be competitive, because we know already that NA is not a competitive region. The up/down format, patch cycles, and tournament structure are there to be as entertaining as possible so that people can ESPORTS.

You're delusional if you think entertainment and viewability isn't the single most important factor today.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 22:30:41
April 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#1276
I wonder why Quas really favors that mundo for this 4.5 patch. I figured it would be pretty meh now a days.
On April 20 2014 07:27 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.


So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner.

Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.

Nice strawman, try again plz.

I'm taking the logical extension of your argument for the lowest variance method of finding the best team, which is in fact a Swiss bracket.
Might as well just not bother airing it and have the teams play on the ranked 5s ladder and then everyone can spectate!


LCS doesn't exist to be competitive, because we know already that NA is not a competitive region. The up/down format, patch cycles, and tournament structure are there to be as entertaining as possible so that people can ESPORTS.

You're delusional if you think entertainment and viewability isn't the single most important factor today.

I never said it wasn't an important factor, but obviously in this gray scale it leans too far over for entertainment.

But I don't think it's as bad as you guys make it out to be if it was bo5 after each week. I mean LCS every week during seaosn is essentially 4-5 games a day for 2 days a week. A bo5 each day, 2 days a week, for 3 weeks, isn't a far cry over their regular season time schedule.
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#1277
On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:19 red_ wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue.


It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.

and that's why the format blows.


Your formats don't find the truly best team either though. They might remove slightly more variance, but there is still room for doubt, while reducing entertainment value for fans.

The two most popular sporting events in the entire world play best of 1s and don't even have a loser's bracket, it's not a coincidence.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
April 19 2014 22:29 GMT
#1278
On April 20 2014 07:28 wei2coolman wrote:
I wonder why Quas really favors that mundo for this 4.5 patch. I figured it would be pretty meh now a days.

Heals in teamfights helps him a lot.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-19 22:30:38
April 19 2014 22:29 GMT
#1279
I just got this PM

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Go get run over by Russia, or Germany, or any of your neighbours really who more then cumshots that should of been swallowed. Poland is a literal shitstain on the earth and the sooner it's gone the better. ty goodbye

LOL. This banned dude must be sad.
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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
April 19 2014 22:30 GMT
#1280
On April 20 2014 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead.

NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)

So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.

Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.

Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.


So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner.

Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.

Nice strawman, try again plz.

He's right though, if your main goal is to find the best team that is the best way to do it.

For some anecdotal evidence. I have a couple of friends who play LoL on a pretty much daily basis and also like watching LCS (though they only watch EU) and they even think a single bo3 that goes to 3 games is too much LoL for a single night and they'll get bored probably before the series is over. Days like these with 3 bo3s they won't even bother with because they're too long. I think they're more representative for the average LoL viewer than people here like wei2coolman.
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