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On April 20 2014 07:10 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:04 TitusVI wrote:
seriously if one team is better then the other it shouldn't loose a best of 3. And if it looses, the better team has won. That is not how it works. Being the better team means you have a better chance of winning. This chance is never 100%. Obviously the bigger the number of games in a series, the higher is the probability that the team which has the higher chance of winning actually wins. Do some betting, and you will see the truth of this.
This may be true, but there is also another philosophy in other sports that you can take. In boxing there is only one "game" where even the underdog can win. And still the underdog who just had a lucky K.O- hit immediatly is the new world champion.
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United States15536 Posts
Bans: Ryze, Jax, Thresh
Bans: Kha'zix, Soraka, Nocturne
Picks: Lucian, Elise, Morgana, Trundle, Leblanc
Picks: Mundo, Lulu, Leona, Graves, Xin Zhao
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On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid)
So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences.
Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.
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Curse has a pretty beastly team fight with 4 heals, but Mundo is just asking to be dived repeatedly with no flash.
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On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue.
It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 20 2014 07:17 Gator wrote:
what is bunnyfufu's 3rd choice?
Karma I guess, he hasn't really deviated from thresh/leona ever but when he has very rarely it's been karma.
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I hate this meta so much, it's so not representative of what I see in solo q and doesn't help me learn anything early game
On April 20 2014 07:19 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue. It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.
and that's why the format blows.[/QUOTE]
In your completely subjective opinion.
Watch the games.
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On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing.
Which do you think is legitimately better though?
Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though?
Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.
On April 20 2014 07:19 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue. It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team.
and that's why the format blows.
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On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing. Which do you think is legitimately better though? Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though? Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set.
So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner.
Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.
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On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing. Which do you think is legitimately better though? Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though? Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set. So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner. Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department.
Nice strawman, try again plz.
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Lol people only give C9 63% chance of winning?
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On April 20 2014 07:24 AUGcodon wrote:
Lol people only give C9 63% chance of winning?
Curse has pretty large fan base.
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On April 20 2014 07:24 AUGcodon wrote:
Lol people only give C9 63% chance of winning?
I thought it was 83?
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On April 20 2014 07:11 boesthius wrote:
I'm going to start cracking down on the lomo's and shitter and general shitposting in the LoL forums from now on. If you can't debate without saying lmao ur so fucking retarded lomo ur such a shitter, then dont post.
Thank you so much. Next stop would be maybe to be a little less lenient with the veteran posters. People like cheep get away with a bit much x.x, even with all they add to the discussion.
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On April 20 2014 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing. Which do you think is legitimately better though? Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though? Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set. So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner. Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department. Nice strawman, try again plz.
I'm taking the logical extension of your argument for the lowest variance method of finding the best team, which is in fact a Swiss bracket.
Might as well just not bother airing it and have the teams play on the ranked 5s ladder and then everyone can spectate!
LCS doesn't exist to be competitive, because we know already that NA is not a competitive region. The up/down format, patch cycles, and tournament structure are there to be as entertaining as possible so that people can ESPORTS.
You're delusional if you think entertainment and viewability isn't the single most important factor today.
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I wonder why Quas really favors that mundo for this 4.5 patch. I figured it would be pretty meh now a days.
On April 20 2014 07:27 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing. Which do you think is legitimately better though? Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though? Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set. So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner. Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department. Nice strawman, try again plz. I'm taking the logical extension of your argument for the lowest variance method of finding the best team, which is in fact a Swiss bracket. Might as well just not bother airing it and have the teams play on the ranked 5s ladder and then everyone can spectate! LCS doesn't exist to be competitive, because we know already that NA is not a competitive region. The up/down format, patch cycles, and tournament structure are there to be as entertaining as possible so that people can ESPORTS. You're delusional if you think entertainment and viewability isn't the single most important factor today.
I never said it wasn't an important factor, but obviously in this gray scale it leans too far over for entertainment.
But I don't think it's as bad as you guys make it out to be if it was bo5 after each week. I mean LCS every week during seaosn is essentially 4-5 games a day for 2 days a week. A bo5 each day, 2 days a week, for 3 weeks, isn't a far cry over their regular season time schedule.
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On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing. Which do you think is legitimately better though? Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though? Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set. Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:19 red_ wrote:On April 20 2014 07:10 wei2coolman wrote:
those formats blow too, but at least for nfl i can understand the injury/safety issue. It is literally impossible to have a debate with you if you're going to spout shit like this, and not because you've made some amazing point, but because you're an insufferable idiot who doesn't understand why these games are being played. These formats are THE ABSOLUTE BEST at what they are designed for. Hint: it's not finding the truly best team. and that's why the format blows.
Your formats don't find the truly best team either though. They might remove slightly more variance, but there is still room for doubt, while reducing entertainment value for fans.
The two most popular sporting events in the entire world play best of 1s and don't even have a loser's bracket, it's not a coincidence.
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On April 20 2014 07:28 wei2coolman wrote:
I wonder why Quas really favors that mundo for this 4.5 patch. I figured it would be pretty meh now a days.
Heals in teamfights helps him a lot.
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Go get run over by Russia, or Germany, or any of your neighbours really who more then cumshots that should of been swallowed. Poland is a literal shitstain on the earth and the sooner it's gone the better. ty goodbye
LOL. This banned dude must be sad.
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On April 20 2014 07:24 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2014 07:23 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:22 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:18 xes wrote:On April 20 2014 07:17 wei2coolman wrote:On April 20 2014 07:16 xes wrote:
The SuperBowl is a single Bo1 guys, that's a terrible format and it should be a Bo5 instead. NBA is bo7, your point? (though their post season selection of teams is fucking stupid) So you're proving our point? Different tournament structures for different audiences. Nothing wrong with Bo3 in LCS then thanks for agreeing. Which do you think is legitimately better though? Do you seriously think bo1 is better format than bo7 though? Obviously there are real restrictions in real life, such has how injury prone football is in comparison, but ideally you would want to have decent game # set. So instead of having a tournament we should instead just play a billion round robin games in a Swiss tournament and then declare a winner. Riot should hire you to head their ESPORTS department. Nice strawman, try again plz.
He's right though, if your main goal is to find the best team that is the best way to do it.
For some anecdotal evidence. I have a couple of friends who play LoL on a pretty much daily basis and also like watching LCS (though they only watch EU) and they even think a single bo3 that goes to 3 games is too much LoL for a single night and they'll get bored probably before the series is over. Days like these with 3 bo3s they won't even bother with because they're too long. I think they're more representative for the average LoL viewer than people here like wei2coolman.
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