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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
November 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#1561
Years of ads... Maybe I just need to switch streams?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#1562
About Mad Catz Interactive, Inc.
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Creepiest ad ever
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Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
November 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#1563
Why on earth would anyone judge WE on their performance at Worlds (which was a close series against one of the best teams in the world, so hardly as bad as some people make it out) when they had just recently undergone a massive roster change? Not at all surprising that they look much stronger now that they have had adequate time to play together. They already looked incredible individually at Worlds, it was just their team cohesion that was a little lacking.
Creator of LoLTool.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#1564
I BELIEVE IN CRS.na, I want the upset. I believe in Nyjacky! He's got taiwanese blood in him, he can carry. Just gotta channel the racial perks, and DO WORK.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#1565
On November 30 2012 11:03 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:02 nojitosunrise wrote:
On November 30 2012 11:00 Sponkz wrote:
It's quite sad, that NA teams in this tourney (and in general), still is nowhere near the skill-level of asia/EU. Think it will stay the same more or less for a larger period of a time.


NA is never going to be competitive again.

There is no reason NA has to be behind EU. NA should even have the better structure, as there is overall considerably more money in the NA scene.

And considerably more money in the NA streaming scene. The only thing holding NA back is work ethic, there is no inherent reason why others teams are better than them
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
November 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#1566
^Where are you guys seeing that they are going to play games beyond the group stage ? Afaik and from what I see today is only till the end of group stage.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance. -Socrates
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#1567
On November 30 2012 11:03 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:02 nojitosunrise wrote:
On November 30 2012 11:00 Sponkz wrote:
It's quite sad, that NA teams in this tourney (and in general), still is nowhere near the skill-level of asia/EU. Think it will stay the same more or less for a larger period of a time.


NA is never going to be competitive again.

There is no reason NA has to be behind EU. NA should even have the better structure, as there is overall considerably more money in the NA scene.


I assume he's just going by how it always tends to happen in gaming. Asians > EU > US is kind of what most games tend to gravitate to. Think only FPS games have a more EU > US > Asian vibe going on but even then only FPS that had some asian showing to my knowledge was CS and that became EU > EU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#1568
On November 30 2012 11:03 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:00 Sufficiency wrote:
There is only one more game today and it's TSM vs SGS, right?

As well as M5/Curse.NA CLG.na/Fear and WE/CLG.na or Fear and CLG.eu vs TSM or SGS.


OK got my coffee and ready to watch more.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2012 02:07 GMT
#1569
On November 30 2012 11:02 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:00 Sponkz wrote:
It's quite sad, that NA teams in this tourney (and in general), still is nowhere near the skill-level of asia/EU. Think it will stay the same more or less for a larger period of a time.


NA is never going to be competitive again.

Korea is more or less going to pull further and further ahead because LoL's standing as the premier E-sport in Korea right now affords it the greatest access to a fresh talent pool. LoL doesn't have the same kind of standing China, and other places in Asia don't have as large of a player pool to begin with.
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Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 30 2012 02:07 GMT
#1570
On November 30 2012 11:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
About Mad Catz Interactive, Inc.
Mad Catz is a leading global provider of innovative products for the interactive entertainment industry


Creepiest ad ever

That's Zhi, he's da best.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#1571
On November 30 2012 11:06 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:03 Redox wrote:
On November 30 2012 11:02 nojitosunrise wrote:
On November 30 2012 11:00 Sponkz wrote:
It's quite sad, that NA teams in this tourney (and in general), still is nowhere near the skill-level of asia/EU. Think it will stay the same more or less for a larger period of a time.


NA is never going to be competitive again.

There is no reason NA has to be behind EU. NA should even have the better structure, as there is overall considerably more money in the NA scene.


I assume he's just going by how it always tends to happen in gaming. Asians > EU > US is kind of what most games tend to gravitate to. Think only FPS games have a more EU > US > Asian vibe going on but even then only FPS that had some asian showing to my knowledge was CS and that became EU > EU


NA does have more money but a lot of it is in streaming, which is monopolized mostly to a few players on the top teams.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#1572
On November 30 2012 11:06 Eladir wrote:
^Where are you guys seeing that they are going to play games beyond the group stage ? Afaik and from what I see today is only till the end of group stage.

Pretty sure it's on the schedule, but here's a tweet for Krepo if you want more proof
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
November 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#1573
Oh man words cannot describe how happy I am for Fnatic atm, even as an old time fan I didnt really think they would beat Blaze. So awesome, will be sad for them to have rekkles go though poor kid doing so well, but to young to play in S3.
Magic: http://i.imgur.com/v90HO.gif
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 30 2012 02:09 GMT
#1574
The amount of crap the NA scene gets is only mostly deserved. Where you folks see forever crushed I see glimmers of hope. maybe not at ipl5 but to say the NA scene will never be able to retake it's former glory is in my opinion ignorant to those glimmers of hope.

I am hopeful.*shrug*
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
November 30 2012 02:09 GMT
#1575
On November 30 2012 11:07 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 11:02 nojitosunrise wrote:
On November 30 2012 11:00 Sponkz wrote:
It's quite sad, that NA teams in this tourney (and in general), still is nowhere near the skill-level of asia/EU. Think it will stay the same more or less for a larger period of a time.


NA is never going to be competitive again.

Korea is more or less going to pull further and further ahead because LoL's standing as the premier E-sport in Korea right now affords it the greatest access to a fresh talent pool. LoL doesn't have the same kind of standing China, and other places in Asia don't have as large of a player pool to begin with.


Yeah KR is ridiculous. I feel like a lot of fans only know about Sword/Blaze/Frost because they go to the foreign events but LGIM, KTB, Shield, OP, KT A and probably a few others are all at least competitive with those three teams. Hell, KTB is pretty unknown but they have been destroying everyone in OGN so far.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 30 2012 02:10 GMT
#1576
On November 30 2012 11:09 Parnage wrote:
The amount of crap the NA scene gets is only mostly deserved. Where you folks see forever crushed I see glimmers of hope. maybe not at ipl5 but to say the NA scene will never be able to retake it's former glory is in my opinion ignorant to those glimmers of hope.

I am hopeful.*shrug*


Well I do hope they upset history but at this stage it's happened in enough titles to warrant the doubt.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2012 02:10 GMT
#1577
On November 30 2012 11:05 Goragoth wrote:
Why on earth would anyone judge WE on their performance at Worlds (which was a close series against one of the best teams in the world, so hardly as bad as some people make it out) when they had just recently undergone a massive roster change? Not at all surprising that they look much stronger now that they have had adequate time to play together. They already looked incredible individually at Worlds, it was just their team cohesion that was a little lacking.

Their drafts as well. The new lineup more or less hadn't adjusted to a playstyle suitable to Fzzf/Clearlove yet, so by and large they were often picking FotM heroes/lineups that didn't work well together and didn't play comfortably for the team's playstyle. Misaya Ori and Caomei Irelia are indicative of this.

The draft problem was exacerbated by the fact that the team had to play more than the 3 planned drafts, so they totally had to wing it when it came to champ select for the 4th game.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 30 2012 02:11 GMT
#1578
Damn Jax/Draven voice has a great beard.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
November 30 2012 02:11 GMT
#1579
Wow, really cool touch getting the voice actors to do introductions.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 30 2012 02:11 GMT
#1580
If Curse NA beats M5 I will eat my pants
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