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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
Oh and if you need a lot of mana to harass yourself flask is a decent start too especially if you're not a champion that is going to build an item like chalice or tear. I don't play pantheon but I think a lot of panth players like to start flask + pots (with 1 or more mana pots) to be able to spam Q early. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
I don't get it. I've played this game for so long, and this should be an obvious basic, but i don't get it. No matter where their champ is in relation to the creepwave, and if it's even or pushing any way, the enemy creeps come hunt me down immediatly and even chase me when i walk back after autoing. Yet when i play a melee champ, other people have no problem autoing me 2, 3 or even more times while my creeps just ignore them. Help T_T | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 07 2014 15:52 Volband wrote: It's not a strategical question, but why can't I see all chat in spectate mode, when I enabled it in the interface menu and at the regular options menu as well? There's no way I'm THIS unlucky to spectate matches where people don't talk, not even gg, not even a "fuck you", after killing obvious afk guy. Sometimes the chat box gets in a different place from the "regular" one. So if you moved your box when playing games, it's possible it translates into it being "out of the screen" when spectating. Happened to me one patch, but in reverse, so I sighed and made with having a displaced chatbox in spectator mode (I'd rather not have it out of sight during normal games), and it was fixed in the following patch. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On August 12 2014 21:14 Alaric wrote: Sometimes the chat box gets in a different place from the "regular" one. So if you moved your box when playing games, it's possible it translates into it being "out of the screen" when spectating. Happened to me one patch, but in reverse, so I sighed and made with having a displaced chatbox in spectator mode (I'd rather not have it out of sight during normal games), and it was fixed in the following patch. I see the chatbox itself with all the neutral messages (multi-kills, items bought), I just don't see the all-chat. I can't veen see allied chat in my own replays, though I'm not sure if I'm supposed to. Anyway, last season I know I had to enable all-chat in the spectate interface menu AND in the options menu (like when you enable it for the first time), but I'M clueless now. I miss the high elo rage. edit: well it works now:o | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 12 2014 21:07 snow2.0 wrote: How do you trade autos ranged vs melee earlygame to get ahead, potentially bully somebody out and snowball from lvl1? (without jungle interference) I don't get it. I've played this game for so long, and this should be an obvious basic, but i don't get it. No matter where their champ is in relation to the creepwave, and if it's even or pushing any way, the enemy creeps come hunt me down immediatly and even chase me when i walk back after autoing. Yet when i play a melee champ, other people have no problem autoing me 2, 3 or even more times while my creeps just ignore them. Help T_T Just hit them when they go to lay hit one of your creeps. You'll be out of range of their ranged creeps and their melee creeps won't reach you anyway. Creep damage you take while pushing is also minimal so you can be much more aggressive if you've kept good tabs on their jungle, especially since range makes it intrinsically easier to push. Another thing that works for a lot of champs is you can chat and auto then from anywhere then back up before the auto lands so you out of creep aggro range. Some champs this will fizzle your attack though. Off the top of my head it's just Viktor, but I'm pretty sure there are a few more. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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asymptotech
United States295 Posts
-Don't get stuck on the y-axis. Or, more accurately to how the league map is positioned: don't be overly static on moving up and down the lane. Use the sides too. If you run up to the middle of the minions and throw an auto, you might get 3-5 minions in a wave to look angry at you. But if you run the whole way to the side of that exact same minion wave, you can likely get one (or more) off with nothing but 1 or 2 of those same minions to deal with. The more you stay aware of the jungler's position, the more abusive you can be with your space. Are you midlane and you saw a blue-side start? Well, from 2:00 to 3:30 (give or take) you can run as far up the blue side of the lane as you want. -Don't get tunnel vision on harass. There will be times where an auto-attack is available where it would be more prudent to keep your lane pushed. If you try "too hard" to zone/harass on those first few waves and you neglect how the waves are interacting, they can hit their level up with (or even ahead) of you. Those first few power spikes are just as important as the auto attack harass because they provide immediate windows of opportunity to grow your advantage. Being a bully throughout the whole process, not just the difference in auto-attack ranges, will yield greater results. The third thing I would suggest is probably the most important point and it is more a general piece of advice than something specific to lane bullying: Push your boundaries. Push the envelope. Do things that make you uncomfortable. And do this until you fail. Then do more of it until you fail again. Many people lane as if the opposing jungler is camping that next brush the entire game. Or when they go back to base at level 8 for their second base they still have their two potions that came with the original d-ring. You can be a successful player by being extremely conservative - the nature of LoL lends itself to that. But you can become a better player by learning to take more risks. Die to the jungler. Find out when they really are in that brush. Buy an extra potion with the intention of using it to be overly-offensive. You will learn to get a sense of when it is correct to be conservative...and then you will slowly acclimate so that other things that used to feel risky instead feel like second nature. I believe this is one of the fundamental reasons that a diamond player can have such a difficult time translating concepts to a silver player (levels are obviously arbitrarily far apart to accentuate the point). Whenever one of my friends asks "watch me play this champion and give me advice" it almost always results in: "you could have traded favorably there if you weren't so far behind your own minions"..."you could have made them base there and used your last potion to push the wave to the tower"..."you could have killed them there. yes, and you could have got away from the tower in time". It's not because I can click a mouse faster or because I have the damage from an Annie rank 3 Q memorized, it's just being comfortable in a situation where they still feel timid. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 29 2014 15:08 asymptotech wrote: The third thing I would suggest is probably the most important point and it is more a general piece of advice than something specific to lane bullying: Push your boundaries. Push the envelope. Do things that make you uncomfortable. And do this until you fail. Then do more of it until you fail again. Many people lane as if the opposing jungler is camping that next brush the entire game. Or when they go back to base at level 8 for their second base they still have their two potions that came with the original d-ring. You can be a successful player by being extremely conservative - the nature of LoL lends itself to that. But you can become a better player by learning to take more risks. Die to the jungler. Find out when they really are in that brush. Buy an extra potion with the intention of using it to be overly-offensive. You will learn to get a sense of when it is correct to be conservative...and then you will slowly acclimate so that other things that used to feel risky instead feel like second nature. I believe this is one of the fundamental reasons that a diamond player can have such a difficult time translating concepts to a silver player (levels are obviously arbitrarily far apart to accentuate the point). Whenever one of my friends asks "watch me play this champion and give me advice" it almost always results in: "you could have traded favorably there if you weren't so far behind your own minions"..."you could have made them base there and used your last potion to push the wave to the tower"..."you could have killed them there. yes, and you could have got away from the tower in time". It's not because I can click a mouse faster or because I have the damage from an Annie rank 3 Q memorized, it's just being comfortable in a situation where they still feel timid. Here's how I described this concept to my sub-30 friend: it is not until you fall off the cliff that you know how close to the edge you can get. I think my play improved a lot when I forced myself to play ridiculously aggressively in normals, because then all of a sudden I could take advantage of opportunities in my ranked games that I didn't realize were there before. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Simberto
Germany12086 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
sits back and does nothing, plus you can ult to leech assists | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On September 03 2014 05:43 GrandInquisitor wrote: On which supports does it make sense to build a Mejai's? I get it in all my Janna games, and I have started including it in my Karma builds as well. It seems too risky on Morgana/Zyra, but perhaps Nami/Lulu? LEBLANC | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Simberto
Germany12086 Posts
On October 10 2014 23:06 Yorbon wrote: Are there any beginners tutorial series on tactics on youtube or somewhere else? I've just played around the last days, and I'm more or less just 'fooling around', trying to kill (champ/towers/last hitting) and helping others out were i think is necessary. It would be great to get some inspiration on (champion independent) basic tactical plays. I don't have a direct any links as an answer to this sadly, as it would indeed be very helpful. But a general idea: If you have no idea what to do or where to go, instead of standing around idly or in a dangerous spot, go mid and push it. After you did anything useful, specifically after you won a fight or succeeded in a gank, think about what you can take from this. There is always something. It might be a jungle camp or buff. It might be as simple as shoving a lane and allowing your laner a free back while destroying 1-2 waves for the enemy laner. After ~ LvL6, if you get any kills or force backs bot/mid, you can usually take dragon. Or there is a tower closeby that you can take because right now you are more than the enemy around here. Basically, count in your head how many (and which) enemy champions could contest whatever you are doing, and if you think you would win the fight, take the thing. Either they come, and you see if you actually do win the fight (you will get better at judging this), or they don't and you got something for free. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On October 10 2014 23:27 Simberto wrote: Thanks for the reply! I think I can do something with it.I don't have a direct any links as an answer to this sadly, as it would indeed be very helpful. But a general idea: If you have no idea what to do or where to go, instead of standing around idly or in a dangerous spot, go mid and push it. After you did anything useful, specifically after you won a fight or succeeded in a gank, think about what you can take from this. There is always something. It might be a jungle camp or buff. It might be as simple as shoving a lane and allowing your laner a free back while destroying 1-2 waves for the enemy laner. After ~ LvL6, if you get any kills or force backs bot/mid, you can usually take dragon. Or there is a tower closeby that you can take because right now you are more than the enemy around here. Basically, count in your head how many (and which) enemy champions could contest whatever you are doing, and if you think you would win the fight, take the thing. Either they come, and you see if you actually do win the fight (you will get better at judging this), or they don't and you got something for free. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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