[Champion] Kayle - Page 14

On October 19 2013 10:09 Magus wrote:
I have a huge Excel spreadsheet I made up for different Kayle build damages with 6 seconds of straight attacking. Greaves are very slightly better than Sorc Shoes until you have 6 items. They're cheaper, push faster, and do more damage overall for most of the game. The only time you'd want Sorc Shoes is if you can literally only throw Q's and not auto at all.

I also disagree with ever maxing E first. You'll push faster yes, but even with maxing Q and leaving E at 1 point pushing out a wave is never really an issue for Kayle. You need to get in like 5 auto attacks more than you would normally to make up the damage you lose from maxing E over Q (i.e. if you get in a Q and 2 autos, maxing E you would need to get in a Q and 7 autos to match the damage). It will save you mana though, since E is the only spell that doesn't have a scaling mana cost.

Also if you want to play full Burst Mage Kayle you can go Nashor's Lichbane Dcap DFG Void and literally 2 shot carries with no MR.
DFG -> E (Lichbane proc) -> Q
You can use W for another Lichbane proc and the speed boost to catch them if they survived.

On October 19 2013 15:20 Magus wrote:
The only lane I have issue with as Kayle is Xerath. Everything else is fine. Orianna's at my level kinda suck though so...

On October 20 2013 07:51 Iblis wrote:
Kayle jungle may not be optimal and is certainly not expected in the current meta which would have a cc bot with high base stats damage in the jungle 90% of the time.
But saying it's a troll pick as would a Sona jungle be is going a bit too far. I'd see Kayle as an Evelynn with utility skill a bit weaker on Kayle but you can use them on your allies.

Kayle is really strong with double buff, have good burst, decent sustained damage constant slow from red buff on a speed buffed ranged champ with a stronger slow on the Q engage. A melee top laner without a high mobility escape skill WILL die if he doesn't have flash or even with it if he pushes a bit too much and his jungler isn't there to save him to a doublebuff Kayle gank.
The weakness of Kayle is being as resistant as a piece of paper so you don't want to go in fight in equal number without your ult to prevent you do to die from a focus fire from 2 guys, when you don't have double buff, farming the jungle and counterganking as soon as you see the other jungler comes into one of your lane is to Kayle advantage because she have quite some utility skills with the heal/speed buff and being a ranged allows you to make plays saving your mates and turn the gank around.

To jungle you should max Q first because E gives you less damage on single target and your lvl 1 E with AP scaling already kills the little jungle creeps, it's better for jungle farming and for ganking.
I max the heal second because when you don't go for atk speed item but invest in AP item like going for spirit of the spectral wraith or Lichbane or Deathcap you heal for a significant amount and coupled with your ult you can really destroy 2v2 or 3v3 fight in midgame.

Then again some game you'll be against a Lee Sin top, Fizz mid so you won't kill someone there and your botlane goes 0-4 in 6minutes so you know you'll get shred to pieces if anyone hits you for more than 4secs.

On November 03 2013 12:30 HughMyron wrote:
ZzPhoenix (D1) is playing Kayle with Movespeed Quints and 9/0/21 masteries, Flash/Teleport. It's an interesting setup, to be sure, and it's certainly working for him.

I prefer AP Quints against Zed though because he can disengage pretty easily from fights with his shadow thingy, so you really can't get into an extended trade with him if he plays more passively. In other matchups I always run Movespeed.

On November 03 2013 13:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
I bet he's doing teleport quints just to survive laning rather than to get kills. Is he going top? Or who is he facing mid?

I've done the flash teleport setup before.

On November 03 2013 14:38 HughMyron wrote:


He's doing it against everyone from Zed to Orianna. He mostly uses his Teleport to shove mid and clear jungle to rack up a cs lead (he maxes E), then teleport bot lane to counter the enemy roam.

On November 05 2013 07:21 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
I keep having great games as jungle kayle. If you can get your spirit of the wraith running and mobi boots, you can get around the map like a demon and farm insanely quick. I've been experimenting with runing very, very agressively on her and it works quite well- like not even taking armor runes, hybrid pen marks, ap quints, ap per level seals and glyphs. You burn camps down so quickly, between heal and vamp you just don't take damage and your ganks go from solid to terrifying. You melt like wet paper, but if you go rageblade as a second item the 40% sv+ lifesteal when your guinsoo's triggers combined with the time your ult gives you to make use of it generally means you can outduel anyone by that point.