EPT[Champion] Cho'Gath - Page 12
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Canada5941 Posts
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On September 26 2012 19:37 Shiv. wrote: So basically, unless you are a god at Cho like you are, Chalice into a LATE Athene's might be viable? I dunno about the late Athene's... As I said earlier, Athene's recipe is actually extremely cost efficient. | ||
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HughMyron
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I really see ChoGath as more of a Jungler now. Of all the CC junglers, he has the undisputed BEST clear and sustain. Innate tankiness with Feast makes him a decent Oracle carrier too. The downside is that his CC isn't as reliable as someone like Maokai, but whatever, | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On September 28 2012 02:31 HughMyron wrote: I don't know, I don't really see Cho'Gath as a top lane champion anymore. Champions with strong early burst (Rengar, Riven, etc) will zone him from the creeps early on when he is weak. Champions dependent on farm (Irelia, Olaf, etc) are given carte blanche to farm hard and become lategame monsters. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really see ChoGath as more of a Jungler now. Of all the CC junglers, he has the undisputed BEST clear and sustain. Innate tankiness with Feast makes him a decent Oracle carrier too. The downside is that his CC isn't as reliable as someone like Maokai, but whatever, Personal brag: I've been doing jungle cho since back before they changed the jungle, back before jungling was even a thing, back when the only viable junglers were literally shaco warwick nunu and amumu. For the record: I called it. And invented it. And reinvented it. But yeah, I like playing him jungle and mid mainly now, though I'm in the process of rediscovering him in top lane where if he survives the initial few levels/ganks he becomes completely unkillable. | ||
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romanov
Netherlands892 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
Something like Regrowth/Boots > Philo > Rylais > Treads > Shurelias(delayed if with friend) and then a mixture depending on what I feel is needed of Sunfire Cape Force of Nature Rabaddon's Deathcap Zhonya's Ring Frozen Heart Abyssal Scepter I tend to always get the philo early and hold onto it for a long time as I duo with my friend who pretty agressively takes wraiths/wolves alot in mid so I try to offset the lack of farm/sustain from not getting to hit things so it'll be interesting to see how Rylai's slots in. Thoughts? | ||
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SKANKTANK
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Silvanel
Poland4744 Posts
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HughMyron
297 Posts
Just get MR Runes and spam silence I guess. | ||
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
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OutlaW-
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Max W and scream at her a lot Max E and shove the wave really hard Against Akali the importance of defensive runes can't be overstated. You NEED at least MR blues, and armor yellows really help, too. Basically you want to call for a lot of ganks against her before she hits 6 if you're maxing W and if you're maxing E you need to be really aggressive in pushing her to her tower so she can't last hit quite so well. Against good Akali players that won't always work, but it will keep her on the defensive until she gets her revolver, though you're far more vulnerable to gank so basically only do this if you're running armor/mr instead of mp5/mr, and when the ganks come (they will) you HAVE to be on point with your rupture if you want to survive. At some point she is going to get too bursty to 1v1 easily and your goal is to get 6 feast stacks and max out your defensive items for your team. This is a matchup where you'll probably be getting wits with FH instead of abyssal or FoN, though FoN is still great. Your goal is to wear an oracles and cc her in teamfights, primarily with silence, and to burst her down with feast while she's incapable of darting around. You're not going to put out more damage than her, and she's infinitely more mobile than you are, so make sure your team stays with you, or you're not going to be able to handle her, as she's one of the best-scaling assassins. Still, her early game is pretty weak and you should dominate her with ganks before she gets revolver/6. | ||
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Schnake
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Silvanel
Poland4744 Posts
On September 29 2012 19:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: There are two ways to do it: Max W and scream at her a lot Max E and shove the wave really hard Against Akali the importance of defensive runes can't be overstated. You NEED at least MR blues, and armor yellows really help, too. Basically you want to call for a lot of ganks against her before she hits 6 if you're maxing W and if you're maxing E you need to be really aggressive in pushing her to her tower so she can't last hit quite so well. Against good Akali players that won't always work, but it will keep her on the defensive until she gets her revolver, though you're far more vulnerable to gank so basically only do this if you're running armor/mr instead of mp5/mr, and when the ganks come (they will) you HAVE to be on point with your rupture if you want to survive. At some point she is going to get too bursty to 1v1 easily and your goal is to get 6 feast stacks and max out your defensive items for your team. This is a matchup where you'll probably be getting wits with FH instead of abyssal or FoN, though FoN is still great. Your goal is to wear an oracles and cc her in teamfights, primarily with silence, and to burst her down with feast while she's incapable of darting around. You're not going to put out more damage than her, and she's infinitely more mobile than you are, so make sure your team stays with you, or you're not going to be able to handle her, as she's one of the best-scaling assassins. Still, her early game is pretty weak and you should dominate her with ganks before she gets revolver/6. Thank You. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Mob boots are really good, I've been getting them first or second 0/21/9, gold quints, aspd reds, armor yellows, scaling mr blues boots 3 -> mob boots -> hog/philo -> aegis -> diverge Turns out aegis is really, really awesome | ||
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HughMyron
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AS Reds Armor Yellow MR/Level Blue Movespeed Quints, and just run a very textbook build with Mob/Hog/Aegis. Then I build a NegaCloak around the time I finish Randuin. At that point, the build diverges depending on their comp. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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