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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 14 2012 08:34 GMT
#641
Don't engage in a committed fight when she lands an E on you.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:30:29
April 14 2012 23:29 GMT
#642
Anyone else get a bug that won't allow you to use a skill for a brief amount of time? It only happens on Riven and its way too common to be lag. Its mostly Q and R 2nd activation but I got it on every skill a few times.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 14 2012 23:58 GMT
#643
There is a lockout period on Wind Slash and Broken Wings. It is intentional.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
April 15 2012 00:02 GMT
#644
lockout period 2 seconds after the last q and 10 seconds into the ult?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 15 2012 00:09 GMT
#645
So I've found wk v riven to be nigh impossible. His animations are so slow riven can literally knock him out of them. Dumb matchup
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
April 15 2012 10:56 GMT
#646
yea I remember smash posted in his wukong thread that wukong just get shit on by riven in all stages of the lane
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 15 2012 18:24 GMT
#647
On April 14 2012 16:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 14:54 Requizen wrote:
But fuck Shyvana sucks to lane against. Not entirely sure what the hell I was supposed to do against her, I couldn't trade with her worth shit.

I think you're just supposed to E towards her when she auto-attacks a minions, then auto+W+auto and Q away. Repeat this harass a few times trying not to take any damage. Post-6 can be tricky. Also just back off immediately if she gets her E on you.

You arent gonna not take damage from burnout + auto attacks though, even with her stun
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
April 15 2012 18:38 GMT
#648
Then shyv pushes lane and you get free farm while she worries about ganks.
Not to mention if you engage at the end of burn out you do more DMg and shyv
cant Disengage.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
April 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#649
On April 16 2012 03:24 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 16:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On April 14 2012 14:54 Requizen wrote:
But fuck Shyvana sucks to lane against. Not entirely sure what the hell I was supposed to do against her, I couldn't trade with her worth shit.

I think you're just supposed to E towards her when she auto-attacks a minions, then auto+W+auto and Q away. Repeat this harass a few times trying not to take any damage. Post-6 can be tricky. Also just back off immediately if she gets her E on you.

You arent gonna not take damage from burnout + auto attacks though, even with her stun

You don't stand there fighting her in her burnout. You just E to her, stun her auto once and back off. No need to stand and fight unless she's really low and you're going for the kill. You can dictate the engage since you have greater mobility.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 16 2012 00:31 GMT
#650
On April 15 2012 09:02 GranDim wrote:
lockout period 2 seconds after the last q and 10 seconds into the ult?

Oh, well, with numbers like that it's different. Haven't had that happen to me.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 16 2012 07:10 GMT
#651
I was gonna write a really long story about my Riven playstyle and whatnot. But what it pretty much boils down to is:

When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps).
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 16 2012 08:25 GMT
#652
so... Q-max riven absolutely stomps jarvan. i thought that lane would be a lot less one-sided
does she have any bad matchups? i hadn't really played her again since the nerf but every time i see her she's just wrecking
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 16 2012 08:30 GMT
#653
On April 16 2012 16:10 magha wrote:
I was gonna write a really long story about my Riven playstyle and whatnot. But what it pretty much boils down to is:

When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps).


When I jungle Riven I don't get Wriggles at all. Start boots+3->2xdorans->BFsword->BT. I don't bother with the Vamp because assuming you're maxing Q first (which imo you should) most of your clearing damage is on AoE spell damage. It not like you need the shorter W CD for trades or even a huge amount of your E's shield either.

Getting Wriggles without Dorans weakens your ganks, and getting it with Dorans delays your Bloodthirster a lot, in my opinion.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
April 16 2012 09:16 GMT
#654
Just bought Riven, feels like I have no counters in Top Lane if I play really safe except for Tryhardamere. Even then, if I can zone him pre-6 I could crush him until LATE LATE game where he crits for 500+ and I just die from that.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 16 2012 09:42 GMT
#655
On April 16 2012 17:30 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 16:10 magha wrote:
I was gonna write a really long story about my Riven playstyle and whatnot. But what it pretty much boils down to is:

When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps).


When I jungle Riven I don't get Wriggles at all. Start boots+3->2xdorans->BFsword->BT. I don't bother with the Vamp because assuming you're maxing Q first (which imo you should) most of your clearing damage is on AoE spell damage. It not like you need the shorter W CD for trades or even a huge amount of your E's shield either.

Getting Wriggles without Dorans weakens your ganks, and getting it with Dorans delays your Bloodthirster a lot, in my opinion.


I always max my W out first actually, but I'll try with Q
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 09:47:50
April 16 2012 09:46 GMT
#656
I think Renekton beats Riven pretty hard. You can't dance around him like you can most champs because he has superior mobility and shares most of Rivens early game prowess.

Crocodile has better sustain, similar skillset, and is stronger early game. I guess Riven scales much better than him though so as long as you aren't too far behind you technically win.

Never played Riven vs Olaf as Riven, but everytime I've played a Riven as Olaf I stomp her. Doesn't really matter if you faster when he has better sustain, deals more damage, and has better range... although I'd assume it is pretty skill based. If Riven shields all of Olafs Reckless Swings I could see Riven wrecking him.


On April 16 2012 18:42 magha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 17:30 iCanada wrote:
On April 16 2012 16:10 magha wrote:
I was gonna write a really long story about my Riven playstyle and whatnot. But what it pretty much boils down to is:

When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps).


When I jungle Riven I don't get Wriggles at all. Start boots+3->2xdorans->BFsword->BT. I don't bother with the Vamp because assuming you're maxing Q first (which imo you should) most of your clearing damage is on AoE spell damage. It not like you need the shorter W CD for trades or even a huge amount of your E's shield either.

Getting Wriggles without Dorans weakens your ganks, and getting it with Dorans delays your Bloodthirster a lot, in my opinion.


I always max my W out first actually, but I'll try with Q


Q is way stronger in the jungle imo. Its like how Mundo would max Cleaver first in lane, but in Jungle is silly not to max Burning Agony. Same idea, clear speed on junglers these days is a big deal.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 16 2012 10:38 GMT
#657
On April 16 2012 18:46 iCanada wrote:
I think Renekton beats Riven pretty hard. You can't dance around him like you can most champs because he has superior mobility and shares most of Rivens early game prowess.

Crocodile has better sustain, similar skillset, and is stronger early game. I guess Riven scales much better than him though so as long as you aren't too far behind you technically win.

Never played Riven vs Olaf as Riven, but everytime I've played a Riven as Olaf I stomp her. Doesn't really matter if you faster when he has better sustain, deals more damage, and has better range... although I'd assume it is pretty skill based. If Riven shields all of Olafs Reckless Swings I could see Riven wrecking him.


Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 18:42 magha wrote:
On April 16 2012 17:30 iCanada wrote:
On April 16 2012 16:10 magha wrote:
I was gonna write a really long story about my Riven playstyle and whatnot. But what it pretty much boils down to is:

When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps).


When I jungle Riven I don't get Wriggles at all. Start boots+3->2xdorans->BFsword->BT. I don't bother with the Vamp because assuming you're maxing Q first (which imo you should) most of your clearing damage is on AoE spell damage. It not like you need the shorter W CD for trades or even a huge amount of your E's shield either.

Getting Wriggles without Dorans weakens your ganks, and getting it with Dorans delays your Bloodthirster a lot, in my opinion.


I always max my W out first actually, but I'll try with Q


Q is way stronger in the jungle imo. Its like how Mundo would max Cleaver first in lane, but in Jungle is silly not to max Burning Agony. Same idea, clear speed on junglers these days is a big deal.


Yes youre absolutely right, its just that I always leveled W first while laning, but Q for jungling is definitely better
Gondlem
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia642 Posts
April 17 2012 13:27 GMT
#658
For whatever it's worth, I'm pretty sure SV goes W > E > Q on Riven. Takes Q at level 1 though, of course.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 17 2012 13:33 GMT
#659
Ive been a fan of doing q-w-e for jungle. I literally 4 hit an ahri yesterday with q and ult up.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 14:02:21
April 17 2012 13:58 GMT
#660
On April 16 2012 17:25 gtrsrs wrote:
so... Q-max riven absolutely stomps jarvan. i thought that lane would be a lot less one-sided
does she have any bad matchups? i hadn't really played her again since the nerf but every time i see her she's just wrecking


I feel what really makes her strong is the shield. Most champions have to choose between survivability items or damage items, and Riven can just stack Dorans and BT's and she gains more scaling on the shield. Maybe if they made it scale off ap like Jarvan's/Lee Sin's shield it wouldn't be so much of a problem.

Westrice ran Riven at IPL4 and Tree Eskimo said he had success in the Match up with Mundo. When I play Riven, I play a lot of match ups very aggressively, pushing the lane early to level up a few creeps faster than the opponent and then going off on the guy while I got that one level advantage. I mean look at what a lvl 1 WW can do vs a level 2 Riven. He can't even go to auto attack cs with out taking a ton of damage. The thing that can be a problem with this style is early jungle ganks by champs with large gap closers, Shaco/Lee/Yi/etc. The trick is to combine early jungle ganks, and a champion that can stand toe to toe with her early, Garen, Renekton are ones I play, as I've never been Mundo.

Now I don't know if Mundo actually beats Riven because in the match Westrice did get caught at lvl 1, blew flash, gave first blood, and then got ganked early while flash was on cooldown.
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