EPT[Champion] Riven - Page 33
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Gahlo
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GranDim
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Gahlo
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GranDim
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gtrsrs
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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arb
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On April 14 2012 16:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: I think you're just supposed to E towards her when she auto-attacks a minions, then auto+W+auto and Q away. Repeat this harass a few times trying not to take any damage. Post-6 can be tricky. Also just back off immediately if she gets her E on you. You arent gonna not take damage from burnout + auto attacks though, even with her stun | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
Not to mention if you engage at the end of burn out you do more DMg and shyv cant Disengage. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On April 16 2012 03:24 arb wrote: You arent gonna not take damage from burnout + auto attacks though, even with her stun You don't stand there fighting her in her burnout. You just E to her, stun her auto once and back off. No need to stand and fight unless she's really low and you're going for the kill. You can dictate the engage since you have greater mobility. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35163 Posts
On April 15 2012 09:02 GranDim wrote: lockout period 2 seconds after the last q and 10 seconds into the ult? Oh, well, with numbers like that it's different. Haven't had that happen to me. | ||
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magha
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When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps). | ||
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gtrsrs
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does she have any bad matchups? i hadn't really played her again since the nerf but every time i see her she's just wrecking | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 16 2012 16:10 magha wrote: I was gonna write a really long story about my Riven playstyle and whatnot. But what it pretty much boils down to is: When jungling with Riven, and start with armor+pots, do you go for Wriggles Lantern or for Vampiric Scepter and then save up for Bloodthirster (with 1 or 2 Doran's inbetween perhaps). When I jungle Riven I don't get Wriggles at all. Start boots+3->2xdorans->BFsword->BT. I don't bother with the Vamp because assuming you're maxing Q first (which imo you should) most of your clearing damage is on AoE spell damage. It not like you need the shorter W CD for trades or even a huge amount of your E's shield either. Getting Wriggles without Dorans weakens your ganks, and getting it with Dorans delays your Bloodthirster a lot, in my opinion. | ||
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Pulselol
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
On April 16 2012 17:30 iCanada wrote: When I jungle Riven I don't get Wriggles at all. Start boots+3->2xdorans->BFsword->BT. I don't bother with the Vamp because assuming you're maxing Q first (which imo you should) most of your clearing damage is on AoE spell damage. It not like you need the shorter W CD for trades or even a huge amount of your E's shield either. Getting Wriggles without Dorans weakens your ganks, and getting it with Dorans delays your Bloodthirster a lot, in my opinion. I always max my W out first actually, but I'll try with Q  | ||
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iCanada
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Crocodile has better sustain, similar skillset, and is stronger early game. I guess Riven scales much better than him though so as long as you aren't too far behind you technically win. Never played Riven vs Olaf as Riven, but everytime I've played a Riven as Olaf I stomp her. Doesn't really matter if you faster when he has better sustain, deals more damage, and has better range... although I'd assume it is pretty skill based. If Riven shields all of Olafs Reckless Swings I could see Riven wrecking him. On April 16 2012 18:42 magha wrote: I always max my W out first actually, but I'll try with Q Q is way stronger in the jungle imo. Its like how Mundo would max Cleaver first in lane, but in Jungle is silly not to max Burning Agony. Same idea, clear speed on junglers these days is a big deal. | ||
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
On April 16 2012 18:46 iCanada wrote: I think Renekton beats Riven pretty hard. You can't dance around him like you can most champs because he has superior mobility and shares most of Rivens early game prowess. Crocodile has better sustain, similar skillset, and is stronger early game. I guess Riven scales much better than him though so as long as you aren't too far behind you technically win. Never played Riven vs Olaf as Riven, but everytime I've played a Riven as Olaf I stomp her. Doesn't really matter if you faster when he has better sustain, deals more damage, and has better range... although I'd assume it is pretty skill based. If Riven shields all of Olafs Reckless Swings I could see Riven wrecking him. Q is way stronger in the jungle imo. Its like how Mundo would max Cleaver first in lane, but in Jungle is silly not to max Burning Agony. Same idea, clear speed on junglers these days is a big deal. Yes youre absolutely right, its just that I always leveled W first while laning, but Q for jungling is definitely better | ||
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Gondlem
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Two_DoWn
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On April 16 2012 17:25 gtrsrs wrote: so... Q-max riven absolutely stomps jarvan. i thought that lane would be a lot less one-sided does she have any bad matchups? i hadn't really played her again since the nerf but every time i see her she's just wrecking I feel what really makes her strong is the shield. Most champions have to choose between survivability items or damage items, and Riven can just stack Dorans and BT's and she gains more scaling on the shield. Maybe if they made it scale off ap like Jarvan's/Lee Sin's shield it wouldn't be so much of a problem. Westrice ran Riven at IPL4 and Tree Eskimo said he had success in the Match up with Mundo. When I play Riven, I play a lot of match ups very aggressively, pushing the lane early to level up a few creeps faster than the opponent and then going off on the guy while I got that one level advantage. I mean look at what a lvl 1 WW can do vs a level 2 Riven. He can't even go to auto attack cs with out taking a ton of damage. The thing that can be a problem with this style is early jungle ganks by champs with large gap closers, Shaco/Lee/Yi/etc. The trick is to combine early jungle ganks, and a champion that can stand toe to toe with her early, Garen, Renekton are ones I play, as I've never been Mundo. Now I don't know if Mundo actually beats Riven because in the match Westrice did get caught at lvl 1, blew flash, gave first blood, and then got ganked early while flash was on cooldown. | ||
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