[Champion] Pantheon - Page 43

On June 12 2012 18:53 HughMyron wrote:
Heh, I think I need to work on my Vlad matchup. Just had a game where I got an early gank for a kill, then I dived him at level 5 and killed him again. But at level 9 I lost the exchange and died (he had like 100 health).

I think my mistake was a build one, I didn't get any MR besides Blues and Masteries. I reasoned that their team didn't have much Hard CC, and had little shortrange mobility, so I could get Zerker Greaves for splitting. Also I built Brutalizer instead of Hexdrinker. Vlad, on the other hand, had an early Ninja Tabi and crap. I guess the resists paid off.

You learn something new every game. I need to stop undervaluing Mercs.

Considering you killed him twice before he killed you, I'd guess you simply misjudged the situation. With the gold lead you had, assuming you CSd well and zoned him off of CS of his own, there should be no way he can kill you without you diving him. That one kill CAN be enough to snowball the lane back into his favor depending on wether he managed to let you lose enough CS and XP.

On June 13 2012 03:11 HughMyron wrote:


I think I may have Heartseekered sideways instead of at him during the exchange too, but I don't have a replay so I don't remember.


Also I was watching Arch Angeloid play yesterday on the Featured Games, and I was intrigued by his playstyle. He doesn't stack DBlades, he just gets a fast Brut, Phage, and LW. This means he loses lanes against Doran Stackers, but his power in early teamfights is vastly increased.

Not sure about his late Infinity's Edge though. Then again, I guess he could have got Rabadon's Deathcap with a score like 21/7/x.

On June 13 2012 03:13 Mogwai wrote:
it's a cheesy and bad build, but he's good at playing the playstyle so it works for him. don't forget that it's a bad build though.

On June 13 2012 15:29 HughMyron wrote:
How many Panth players here smartcast E by default (I mean they set the keybind [E] to smartcast it)? I've been doing it, but I often find myself Heartseekering in wrong directions, so I was thinking of moving it to standard cast, since seeing the cone helps. But I also thought it might be noob not to smartcast it.

On June 13 2012 15:53 Shiv. wrote:

I do, but I have done that for about 6 months for all champions, so I eventually got used to it. Nowadays, I modified my input.ini so my normal casts are on Shift+QWER. It's a compromise for when playing champions I don't really play as much and need to pull off clutch plays.

Here's a thread showing you how to do it.

Also, fuck what others think is noob. Whatever works for you works. People have called me noob for building Pantheon the way this guide suggests, people have called me noob for starting blue as Lee Sin without ever asking my reasoning behind it. My point is: as long as you are enjoying yourself and the game, it doesn't matter if some spoiled internet brat thinks not smartcasting it is nooby.

On June 13 2012 15:53 Shiv. wrote:

I do, but I have done that for about 6 months for all champions, so I eventually got used to it. Nowadays, I modified my input.ini so my normal casts are on Shift+QWER. It's a compromise for when playing champions I don't really play as much and need to pull off clutch plays.

Here's a thread showing you how to do it.

Also, fuck what others think is noob. Whatever works for you works. People have called me noob for building Pantheon the way this guide suggests, people have called me noob for starting blue as Lee Sin without ever asking my reasoning behind it. My point is: as long as you are enjoying yourself and the game, it doesn't matter if some spoiled internet brat thinks not smartcasting it is nooby.

On June 14 2012 01:23 jacosajh wrote:


Why do you start blue as Lee Sin?

On June 15 2012 00:23 nanaoei wrote:
i am relatively new to ranked games and have been playing normal games across all roles for a while, but have always leaned towards AD and hybrid AP/AD characters and playstyles for a while---and so i've always leaned towards champs like pantheon!

i was wondering what sort of difficulties you have in ranked play as pantheon in any lane;
are there any specific characters that you actually feel a disadvantage against?

i know that when i play jungle pantheon, i feel my champion has a very strong presence from early to mid game.
i am just unable to pick or farm the right items in time for fights nearing the late game, and it feels harder and harder when deaths become more costly.

i guess my curiosity in the different sort of play in ranked games creates very general questions and i'm sorry.
what sort of dangers do you look out for the most when you play a serious game as pantheon in ranked?

On June 15 2012 00:23 nanaoei wrote:
i am relatively new to ranked games and have been playing normal games across all roles for a while, but have always leaned towards AD and hybrid AP/AD characters and playstyles for a while---and so i've always leaned towards champs like pantheon!

i was wondering what sort of difficulties you have in ranked play as pantheon in any lane;
are there any specific characters that you actually feel a disadvantage against?

i know that when i play jungle pantheon, i feel my champion has a very strong presence from early to mid game.
i am just unable to pick or farm the right items in time for fights nearing the late game, and it feels harder and harder when deaths become more costly.

i guess my curiosity in the different sort of play in ranked games creates very general questions and i'm sorry.
what sort of dangers do you look out for the most when you play a serious game as pantheon in ranked?