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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
On January 04 2012 00:59 Mogwai wrote: I don't like warwick anywhere right now tbh. He doesn't feel that great top lane and his jungling got pretty badly hit with his quick-6 path time going up by like 1-2 minutes. He has been subpar for a long time now | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 04 2012 06:25 isleyofthenorth wrote: He has been subpar for a long time now well, if you think he was subpar pre jungle change, you're basically just wrong and I don't know what else I'm supposed to tell you. | ||
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novalight
United States20 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
On January 04 2012 11:38 jtype wrote: Actually, just prior to the jungle change, WW was dominating quite a lot in high level play and was verging on FoTM. As solotop not as jungler. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 04 2012 11:21 novalight wrote: if you think he was as good as lee sin, nocturne, udyr, or other top junglers pre jungle change, you're basically just wrong and I don't know what else I'm supposed to tell you you could start by explaining how the fuck any of them compared to an 80% AS steroid with a > 50% uptime and 40% AS to your whole team during that duration and a 20% HP nuke that healed you for 80% of that HP and a nearly 2 second supression with crazy damage in the lategame. WW's lategame makes all of their late games look like a goddamn joke, problem is that there's no such thing as a lategame jungler anymore, but back in the day, there was such a thing and WW was the top of the pack. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On January 04 2012 11:21 novalight wrote: if you think he was as good as lee sin, nocturne, udyr, or other top junglers pre jungle change, you're basically just wrong and I don't know what else I'm supposed to tell you User was warned for this post Warwick's ganks post 6 are the strongest out of all junglers, that's never even been up for discussion. His big problem was that he was a bad ganker pre 6 and since the dragon change a year and a half ago he couldn't abuse level 3/4 dragons like he used to be able to. That's literally the ONLY REASON people changed their mind about ww. Even after the W nerfs (after nerf after nerf) he's still retarded strong in the right comps. He's no longer the very best jungle pick period like he was for 2 years but he's still just as competitive as any other jungle pick. Also lol you have no idea who you were talking to there, huh? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 05 2012 01:01 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Warwick's ganks post 6 are the strongest out of all junglers, that's never even been up for discussion. His big problem was that he was a bad ganker pre 6 and since the dragon change a year and a half ago he couldn't abuse level 3/4 dragons like he used to be able to. That's literally the ONLY REASON people changed their mind about ww. Even after the W nerfs (after nerf after nerf) he's still retarded strong in the right comps. He's no longer the very best jungle pick period like he was for 2 years but he's still just as competitive as any other jungle pick. Also lol you have no idea who you were talking to there, huh? do you still play him 5hit? I can't bring myself to play WW nowadays because he needs farm so badly and the only way to get gold in the new jungle is to lane camp early and often or to stack gold/10s and WW does neither very well. can you just bite the bullet and run some ghetto fast 6 route and then just ult on every CD? | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Which is pretty much the WORST solo q mentality you can have. And I believe Saint is trying to pressure Classik into giving WW e a buff- something like an active speed increase when pressed like move quick, which would help ww out a lot. I also personally think they should change blood scent so that you can only see that warwick sees you if you have sight of ww. Makes setting up ganks a lot easier, and doesnt bone you quite so hard late game. | ||
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whatsupchan
United States61 Posts
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deskscaress
United States399 Posts
On January 05 2012 01:01 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Warwick's ganks post 6 are the strongest out of all junglers, that's never even been up for discussion. His big problem was that he was a bad ganker pre 6 and since the dragon change a year and a half ago he couldn't abuse level 3/4 dragons like he used to be able to. That's literally the ONLY REASON people changed their mind about ww. Even after the W nerfs (after nerf after nerf) he's still retarded strong in the right comps. He's no longer the very best jungle pick period like he was for 2 years but he's still just as competitive as any other jungle pick. Also lol you have no idea who you were talking to there, huh? this, pretty much i still take warwick pretty frequently but only against certain champs. i don't take him if the enemy hasn't taken a jungler and udyr/shy/skarner are open cause getting counterjungled that hard is annoying. i like to take him against champs that are really position reliant. kogmaw, xerath, ahri, etc. i try not to take him against alistar, and i try not to take him against champs that can press R->win the game. it's no fun jumping onto an ulted swain, kennen, karthus with defile, etc etc. essentially my gameplan is to tell my teammates to play as safely/passively as possible pre-6, take the second blue then ult gank every lane with blue. usually gets at least 1 kill. then take red and do the same. i don't like to have double buff on ww because (a)he puts himself in harm's way to do damage, making him susceptible to burst, and (b)if you spread your buffs out it's a longer reign of terror. i've had pretty good luck with ww so far in the new jungle. about to try some duo zil + ww for an even quicker 6, we'll see how it goes | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On January 05 2012 03:39 whatsupchan wrote: i still think warwick is fine in top lane but he loses hardcore to riven/tryn so it's easy to see why nobody really picks him right now would you pick ww if riven/tryn banned, mr whatsupchan???? | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
Would you pick him against a Rumble? | ||
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FuzzyLord
253 Posts
On January 05 2012 04:38 unichan wrote: would you pick ww if riven/tryn banned, mr whatsupchan???? Depends on what kind of lane you want: Aggressive or passive? | ||
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novalight
United States20 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On January 05 2012 06:12 ManyCookies wrote: Would you pick him for the jungle? Would you pick him against a Rumble? Would you like Warwick in a house? Would you like Warwick with a mouse? I do not like him in a house. I do not like him with a mouse. I do not like him here or there. I do not like him anywhere. I do not like green Warwick and ham. I do not like him, Sam-I-am. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On January 05 2012 01:13 Mogwai wrote: do you still play him 5hit? I can't bring myself to play WW nowadays because he needs farm so badly and the only way to get gold in the new jungle is to lane camp early and often or to stack gold/10s and WW does neither very well. can you just bite the bullet and run some ghetto fast 6 route and then just ult on every CD? I pick him once in a blue moon when I feel like being cheeky and I always end up dominating super hard with him and going like "wow wtf warwick is so good how come i don't main him" and then i don't ever pick him again. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 05 2012 16:16 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I pick him once in a blue moon when I feel like being cheeky and I always end up dominating super hard with him and going like "wow wtf warwick is so good how come i don't main him" and then i don't ever pick him again. alright, boots opening, red first, W -> E -> level 2 gank is HILARIOUS and always works. WW and I are BFFs again. | ||
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
On January 13 2012 14:58 Mogwai wrote: alright, boots opening, red first, W -> E -> level 2 gank is HILARIOUS and always works. WW and I are BFFs again. So you'll update guide now? :D | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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