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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 14 2011 04:31 GMT
#41
Ww's pre 6 gank isn't even that bad tbh. Just open with an auto instead of q and you garentee several red hits thanks to w. If your lane has a stun it's a free kill


Also my new jungle ww build has razer->mobilities as core and it's legit as fuck. Mobos synchronizes disgustingly well with ww's e
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 22 2011 15:51 GMT
#42
On August 05 2011 05:15 arnath wrote:
Yeah I still think Warwick is mediocre nowadays but Warwick + Annie mid is pretty hilarious. Just a free kill every time your ults are up.


I just played a game yesterday with my brother going WW and Annie in the lane and it was pretty enjoyable just saying "Your ult up? Ok go" An enemy has been slain.

I am very noob to LoL though (play when burnt out on SC@) Any suggestions for item builds for someone not as familiar with the game. I know it takes time and experience, which I hope to get here in the future, but when I read the items to purchase in response to seeing this and that I'm a little lost.

Any general simplified items that I could just get every game until I'm more comfortable? If that's the completely wrong way to go about it just tell me, I'm open to learning
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 22 2011 17:23 GMT
#43
On August 23 2011 00:51 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 05:15 arnath wrote:
Yeah I still think Warwick is mediocre nowadays but Warwick + Annie mid is pretty hilarious. Just a free kill every time your ults are up.


I just played a game yesterday with my brother going WW and Annie in the lane and it was pretty enjoyable just saying "Your ult up? Ok go" An enemy has been slain.

I am very noob to LoL though (play when burnt out on SC@) Any suggestions for item builds for someone not as familiar with the game. I know it takes time and experience, which I hope to get here in the future, but when I read the items to purchase in response to seeing this and that I'm a little lost.

Any general simplified items that I could just get every game until I'm more comfortable? If that's the completely wrong way to go about it just tell me, I'm open to learning

The stuff in the OP is a very solid and standard build. Just stick with that until you get more familiar with WW then you can start experimenting/changing things up in accordance with your playstyle.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 22 2011 17:24 GMT
#44
I'm working on reformatting the OP right now, bear with me.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 22 2011 19:30 GMT
#45
OP has been reformatted, glhf.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 22 2011 19:31 GMT
#46
On August 23 2011 02:24 Mogwai wrote:
I'm working on reformatting the OP right now, bear with me.


I see what you did there, after that Tibbers rant...
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 22 2011 19:32 GMT
#47
On August 23 2011 04:31 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 02:24 Mogwai wrote:
I'm working on reformatting the OP right now, bear with me.


I see what you did there, after that Tibbers rant...

need to be able to infinite duress Tibbers to suppress his incredibly godly manliness.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 19:34:31
August 22 2011 19:33 GMT
#48
On August 23 2011 02:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 00:51 mordek wrote:
On August 05 2011 05:15 arnath wrote:
Yeah I still think Warwick is mediocre nowadays but Warwick + Annie mid is pretty hilarious. Just a free kill every time your ults are up.


I just played a game yesterday with my brother going WW and Annie in the lane and it was pretty enjoyable just saying "Your ult up? Ok go" An enemy has been slain.

I am very noob to LoL though (play when burnt out on SC@) Any suggestions for item builds for someone not as familiar with the game. I know it takes time and experience, which I hope to get here in the future, but when I read the items to purchase in response to seeing this and that I'm a little lost.

Any general simplified items that I could just get every game until I'm more comfortable? If that's the completely wrong way to go about it just tell me, I'm open to learning

The stuff in the OP is a very solid and standard build. Just stick with that until you get more familiar with WW then you can start experimenting/changing things up in accordance with your playstyle.


Ok thanks, it's hard for me to tell what builds are playstyle specific if that make sense. If this is probably the most simple and solid way to go about playing Warwick, thanks for the input and thanks OP

Edit: The reformatting greatly helps! Thanks again.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 24 2011 15:34 GMT
#49
From ingame chat:

Vayne: are you jungling?
Vayne: ww?
Warwick: No, I'm standing by wolves because I miss my family
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 24 2011 17:49 GMT
#50
The problem with GA is that its the best item in the game when its up but useless when its down. Sunfire gives less benefit but more consistency.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 24 2011 18:17 GMT
#51
Sunfire efficiency numbers:
45 Armor = 750 gold
450 HP = 1187.5 gold
Toal = 1937.5 gold for 2610 gold

So you're paying about 662.5 gold for 35 magic damage per second in an aura.

GA efficiency numbers
68 Armor = 1133.3 gold
38 MRes = 633.3 gold
Total = 1766.6 gold for 2600 gold

So you're paying 833.3 gold for 750 HP, 375 Mana resurrection every 5 minutes.

Frankly, on WW, where you have so much natural healing that favors resists over straight up HP , I just think GA is better.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 24 2011 20:00 GMT
#52
You forgot to mention how much prettier Sunfire makes your champion. Easily worth 700 gold alone for fire particles.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 26 2011 15:42 GMT
#53
wriggle's -> triforce is pretty hilarious out of the jungle when you're rapestroying the opposing team.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 16:10:54
September 26 2011 16:09 GMT
#54
Hmm... I'll try around with GA over Sunfire, the missing HP sounds kinda gay though. Resists and healing don't matter if your "buffer HP" does get too low too quickly.

For jungle routes you should maybe add my personal favorite Wraithjack -> Wolves -> Blue -> Gank sidelane/their jungle at red, try it! =P


If you can get away with the Wraithjack at lvl 1 this consistently leads me to hilarious ganks at lvl 3, especially when your team is on the left side.

"LOL IMA PUSH TOP AND GO B AT LVL 4 CAUSE IM VS WW JUNGLE AND HE NEEDS RED ANYWAY"
"Nope!"

When you're doing blue with that route there's 3 possibilites:
a) Your top is pushing -> call him+mid to gank their jungle at red
b) Their top is pushing -> lvl 3 gank him
c) They're in the middle/your top is too low/has no cc to gank -> Keep jungling towards your bottom jungle.


Also I don't know about you haters, but I think that 21 utility is crap on WW (no dmg/junglespeed) and I think that 21 offense is bad, too (MS+buffduration 2 strong). 15/0/15 ftw.


Edit: On sunfire again. I believe one of the main reasons for Sunfire vs GA should be if you want to be ignored or not. Sunfire makes you a higher priority target, GA a lower priority target. Usually I prefer to have more "heat" on me, that's why I usually opt for Sunfire.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 26 2011 19:03 GMT
#55
By the time I have GA, if you're ignoring me, your carries are dying.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 26 2011 19:07 GMT
#56
I tend to think most of the benifit of GA is mental. You are able to buy a bit of extra survivability simply from the standpoint of the enemy team seeing your GA and going "oh shit he has ga, dont focus ww," whereas I think funfire probably makes you tankier. But anyways, just get both IMO.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 22:24:53
September 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#57
On September 27 2011 01:09 r.Evo wrote:
For jungle routes you should maybe add my personal favorite Wraithjack -> Wolves -> Blue -> Gank sidelane/their jungle at red, try it! =P

This only works if their jungler finds out about the wraith-jack by physically passing the wraith camp. If they CV you doing delayed wolves/blue and have half a brain, they have all the time in the world to take your minis/your wraiths (depending on how fast they are), which is very hard for you to respond to unless your adjacent lane is winning ridiculously hard.

If you're doing a red side counterjungle start, IMO you need to commit to team-stealing their wraiths+red or minigols+red. Warwick's comparatively slow jungling means that vs. lots of faster junglers, they can just rotate to your red side and take more than you got out of just doing their wraiths.
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Therapist.
Profile Joined January 2009
United States207 Posts
September 27 2011 15:04 GMT
#58
Just dropping in to say that I am a fan of Lane Warwick (solo top) and prefer a more Q spammy build maxing R > Q > E > W

Generally I go Chalice of Harmony to deal with all mana issues, followed by Spirit Visage and Glacial Shroud for cooldown reduction and defensive stats. Then I'll either finish Frozen Heart or make a Guardian Angel depending on what's going on/what's needed.

The advantage of building this way over a more auto attack oriented style is that you get higher defensive stats. Warwick, when built this way, becomes nearly unkillable as his Q will heal him for massive amounts while he has very high armor/magic resist to absorb tons of damage. His Q on a short cooldown of about 3 seconds will also cause very consistent damage pretty rapidly. In team fights, you can't be ignored, yet can't be focused - the foundation of any great tank.

The main disadvantage of building WW this way is the lack of pushing power. Clearing creep waves like this takes a long time as he has low attack speed and low auto attack damage. This is generally fine on a solo top as you really need your team to break you out of afk-farm mode into the actual game anyway, but it really is one of the things that makes a character like Singed so great as he instantly clears a wave, then goes to cause mayhem about the map.

Even so, in many games as Warwick, this build has yielded the most consistent performance. I can see where building expensive auto attack items would be better in situations where you are getting FED perhaps, but in general, you can't go wrong or get shut down building a Q-spam oriented build.

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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 27 2011 15:12 GMT
#59
On September 28 2011 00:04 Therapist. wrote:
Just dropping in to say that I am a fan of Lane Warwick (solo top) and prefer a more Q spammy build maxing R > Q > E > W

Generally I go Chalice of Harmony to deal with all mana issues, followed by Spirit Visage and Glacial Shroud for cooldown reduction and defensive stats. Then I'll either finish Frozen Heart or make a Guardian Angel depending on what's going on/what's needed.

The advantage of building this way over a more auto attack oriented style is that you get higher defensive stats. Warwick, when built this way, becomes nearly unkillable as his Q will heal him for massive amounts while he has very high armor/magic resist to absorb tons of damage. His Q on a short cooldown of about 3 seconds will also cause very consistent damage pretty rapidly. In team fights, you can't be ignored, yet can't be focused - the foundation of any great tank.

The main disadvantage of building WW this way is the lack of pushing power. Clearing creep waves like this takes a long time as he has low attack speed and low auto attack damage. This is generally fine on a solo top as you really need your team to break you out of afk-farm mode into the actual game anyway, but it really is one of the things that makes a character like Singed so great as he instantly clears a wave, then goes to cause mayhem about the map.

Even so, in many games as Warwick, this build has yielded the most consistent performance. I can see where building expensive auto attack items would be better in situations where you are getting FED perhaps, but in general, you can't go wrong or get shut down building a Q-spam oriented build.

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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 16:01:24
September 27 2011 16:00 GMT
#60
On September 27 2011 04:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
I tend to think most of the benifit of GA is mental. You are able to buy a bit of extra survivability simply from the standpoint of the enemy team seeing your GA and going "oh shit he has ga, dont focus ww," whereas I think funfire probably makes you tankier. But anyways, just get both IMO.


That makes no sense. The reason GA is awesome is because, if you don't focus him, he heals all day. If you do, you have to wait another 3 seconds for the GA to revive giving you 750 HP (which is 300 more than a sunfire) and then they have to switch back to attacking you when you can instantly Q or run away and all this time you have 4 teammates 3 of which do more damage than you do.

Sure, if you lose a teamfight and GA GA is ARGUABLY worse than sunfire but it gives way more resists and since WW heals so much it's still probably better.

Sunfire is only going to be good if you can justify the 35 magic damage per second and very few champs make use of it these days. (I guess jarvan with his R, amumu, pheonix udyr but it's bad on him)
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