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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
October 02 2011 04:22 GMT
#121
Does Irelia beat Jax in lane?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 02 2011 04:33 GMT
#122
Prior to the leap strike nerf and before I got MR runes, no.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 02 2011 04:53 GMT
#123
I might've only lost to an Irelia once as Jax and I think it was due to some good ganks. Despite that, I don't think it's that bad. I think she can win but she'll totally need MR runes maybe dodge boots and some other things?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
October 02 2011 05:00 GMT
#124
I mean part of it was some bad play on my part, but there was a point where his Leap + Empower combo was doing 15-20% of my health every time he did it which let him basically nuke me down to 1/3 health and then go for the kill at will. I'm running the 34 armor page, not the 34 MR one. Should I basically be ignoring him and trying to go for farm?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 02 2011 05:41 GMT
#125
Prior to the nerf and my page he just stomped me so all I could do was try to farm, but then I tried to gank and fell behind especially when he went through our jungle to gank and people ignored my futile calls of JAX IS COMING JAX IS COMING GET YOUR MUSKETS!!!11 but yeah that matchup is one of the very few that Irelia struggles with from start to finish.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 02:17:23
October 03 2011 02:16 GMT
#126
What do you consider "winning" your lane.

A) Zone
B) Higher CS
C) A in-lane Kill

Obviously D) All of the above would be most desirable, but if you had to rank them WHAT WOULD YOU DO BRO?

EDIT: Simply put, is having higher CS enough to "win"
FADC
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 03 2011 05:11 GMT
#127
On October 03 2011 11:16 rwrzr wrote:
What do you consider "winning" your lane.

A) Zone
B) Higher CS
C) A in-lane Kill

Obviously D) All of the above would be most desirable, but if you had to rank them WHAT WOULD YOU DO BRO?

EDIT: Simply put, is having higher CS enough to "win"

CS>Kills, ONLY if the gold from kills is negated by cs.

So say A has 1 kill, 100 cs and B has 0 kills, but 200 cs, then I'd confidently say that B probably won his lane. But it's all kinda situational tho.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
October 03 2011 05:11 GMT
#128
I consider myself as having won a lane if after the laning phase ends, I'm more useful to my team than my lane opponent is to theirs. The problem with specifically defining it is that some heroes are just worse in a lane matchup. For example on Kassadin you're going to lose in CS to 90% of heroes but you can still arguably win your lane matchup by playing well.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#129
Yes, and from my perspective/experience my point was that if you're not careful as Irelia Jax shits all over her in lane and comes out with guns ablazin'. In a melee vs melee lane all 3 tend to go together.
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billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
October 03 2011 08:52 GMT
#130
Been able to do fairly well against talon at 1500 elo.

Level 1-3, I simply play passively as it seems like talon has a slight advantage of being able to push harder, thus having more creeps to back him up. 4-7ish, I just trade hits whenever he tries to harass me with his combo as my q is just in range of him as soon as silence wears off. Past level 7-8, I feel that I can outright dominate my lane with my sustain.

R>W>E>Q

I start doran's shield, cloth+boots and pots+ward my first trip back (I usually waste teleport whenever my lane is being pushed and to start harassing him before he gets his brutaliser). Then wriggles>typical route. I feel that irelia benefits from armor as most talons rush brutaliser.

Side note: teleport irelia too good

Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
October 06 2011 18:41 GMT
#131
This doesn't come up much, but what's worth buying on Irelia once you already have Boots 2, HoG, Philo, Trinity Force, Wit's End, and GA?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 06 2011 19:04 GMT
#132
fon probably but game dependent
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 06 2011 19:06 GMT
#133
FoN, atmas, etc. All dependent on the game.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Xirt
Profile Joined April 2009
Scotland52 Posts
October 06 2011 20:03 GMT
#134
On October 07 2011 03:41 arnath wrote:
This doesn't come up much, but what's worth buying on Irelia once you already have Boots 2, HoG, Philo, Trinity Force, Wit's End, and GA?


I like Fon and Randuins dependant on armor/MR needs. Reverie is actually pretty nice if you went mercs and Elisa's Miracle if you went tabi. Mostly thats fairly expected build paths from the items you have but by that point it shouldnt really matter, if you feel immortal and have too much money black cleaver probably works.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 13:46:43
October 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#135
On October 03 2011 11:16 rwrzr wrote:
What do you consider "winning" your lane.

A) Zone
B) Higher CS
C) A in-lane Kill

Obviously D) All of the above would be most desirable, but if you had to rank them WHAT WOULD YOU DO BRO?

EDIT: Simply put, is having higher CS enough to "win"

If you're zoning, you had better be higher in CS, also. Zoning inherently implies a level advantage and a CS advantage. Usually you also have a kill advantage too if you're able to zone in a 1v1.
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KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
October 07 2011 14:03 GMT
#136
On October 07 2011 22:46 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 11:16 rwrzr wrote:
What do you consider "winning" your lane.

A) Zone
B) Higher CS
C) A in-lane Kill

Obviously D) All of the above would be most desirable, but if you had to rank them WHAT WOULD YOU DO BRO?

EDIT: Simply put, is having higher CS enough to "win"

If you're zoning, you had better be higher in CS, also. Zoning inherently implies a level advantage and a CS advantage. Usually you also have a kill advantage too if you're able to zone in a 1v1.

Not always in my opinion. A strong laner might be able to outzone a not so strong laner, in early levels of a yorick vs. irelia lane yorick can be incredibly annoying and eventually be able to zone and getting great lane control.

Zoning will eventually grant you a level advantage (in most cases atleast) and a CS advantage tho.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
October 07 2011 14:03 GMT
#137
I consider winning my lane using the following formula:

(CS + 20xChamp Kills + 5xAssists +70*Tower Downs)
The one who has the higher is winning. Since tower is very important for the whole team and not just as for you, you might want to change the multiplier.
You might want to put some level advantage multiplier somewhere, but in general, it should be already accounted in the CS/Champion kills.
Shadow of his former self.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#138
New Chinese Nightblade Irelia artwork:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nightblade Irelia


Cot dam
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 07 2011 18:38 GMT
#139
On October 08 2011 03:27 Koenig99 wrote:
New Chinese Nightblade Irelia artwork:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nightblade Irelia


Cot dam

I can already buy her on CN server. I though this was on the US server as well.
Terran
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 07 2011 19:14 GMT
#140
US artwork and Chinese artwork for that skin is different.
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