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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
October 31 2011 17:33 GMT
#161
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks


woot, welcome to the party champ ^^
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 18:03:03
October 31 2011 17:57 GMT
#162
On November 01 2011 02:24 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 20:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Thinking again, wits end+fon+warmogs is probably best bet since you get more damage and banshees I don't like at all on melees. Just get an atmas and banshee after or something. GA I don't like too much vs magic but I Guess it works.

BTW guys, just an aside on yorick vs irelia, you NEED to go 21 defense versus him. I used to have easy times against him since I always went 21 defense and then when I switch to 0/9/21 which is more US style I played vs this random yorick and he felt so OP and I couldn't touch him. If you think about it, with -4 damage taken from each minion that adds up to a LOT over the course of his harass.


I've played against Yorick a couple of times as Irelia (21-0-9), and both times I found his constant harass to be negligible after level 3. I open with a vamp scepter, QWWEQR (I might have grabbed another W at level 5, I don't remember). It's pretty easy to keep your health up just by autoattacking his stupid ghosts and minions. Once you get a sheen and get to level 6, you can engage Yorick freely and own him.


I dunno, it was only one game where he seemed strong. Might be the yorick player that was good had good runes or whatever. I also feel like fast sheen destroys yorick but I'd have to play it more.

btw lol good luck chill irelia is a 6300 IP champ so you're not going to be able to buy her as soon as free week is gone (I assume is free week for her?)

I actually think irelia is the only 6300 champ I own but definitely one of my favourites.

I'd recommend watching http://www.own3d.tv/video/156043/SoloMid.net_-_Chaox_s_Marathon_-_Irelia_part1_
+part 2
If you wanna see what you can really do with this champion.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 31 2011 18:09 GMT
#163
On November 01 2011 02:12 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 02:06 Chill wrote:
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks

Welcome to the fold Unfortunate that Irelia's not one of the cheaper champions and her free week is about to end.

I'm level 5 haha. I'm sure I can just try someone else.
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Makavw
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia165 Posts
October 31 2011 18:18 GMT
#164
Irelia used to be my favourite char but now i just dont see a reason to play her anymore .

She cannot force anyone out of the lane, she is not the best afk farmer , she doesnt counter anyone but she can be countered :/.
The only reason why irelia is still good for me is beeing the most mobile "tank" in game.
Other then that if i want to farm i pick Nasus or Gp, if i want to be aggresive i pick Garen/Renekton.

Also i have yet to lose a lane versus irelia as garen. He seems like super hard counter to her unless he gets ganked early .


Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 31 2011 18:24 GMT
#165
On November 01 2011 03:18 Makavw wrote:
Irelia used to be my favourite char but now i just dont see a reason to play her anymore .

She cannot force anyone out of the lane, she is not the best afk farmer , she doesnt counter anyone but she can be countered :/.
The only reason why irelia is still good for me is beeing the most mobile "tank" in game.
Other then that if i want to farm i pick Nasus or Gp, if i want to be aggresive i pick Garen/Renekton.

Also i have yet to lose a lane versus irelia as garen. He seems like super hard counter to her unless he gets ganked early .



Irelia is flexible enough to spec vs. anyone. She doesn't win many lanes, but she doesn't lose the way Nasus or Singed can, and she has comparable power when farmed. Lol @ farming with GP, on equal farm, Irelia takes a massive massive dump on GP.

Irelia is my go-to safe pick in lane. She can just spec balls out defensive and arrive on lane with like 70 Armor vs. Garen/Pantheon/Talon with 5 hp pots and just outsustain them until wriggle's and then she just fucks them in the face. You can literally just outspec whoever you're laning against and get your farm vs. ANYONE, which transistions into her retarded mid-late game.

She's a really stupid character, but I love Irelia and I can't believe people bitch about her power (it's STILL fucking absurd).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 18:58:55
October 31 2011 18:57 GMT
#166
I've been away from the game for about 4 or 5 months, and it seems like basically no one plays her anymore, which makes no sense. I know that the absurd healing component from her ult was toned down, but she still doesn't die easily with all her other healing. I played her a few times over the weekend and was just running through teams like shit through a goose.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 31 2011 18:59 GMT
#167
idk, i still see her a decent amount
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 31 2011 19:43 GMT
#168
chill get your own champion
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 31 2011 21:48 GMT
#169
Oh, and for those that care: my preferred "should be suicide, but isn't suicide because Irelia is still OP, team-diving build" (I guess it's technically a modified Atlanta build):

21-0-9
ArPen red/purple; armor yellow; mres/lvl blue.

QWQEQR, R>Q>W>E (depending upon how tough your lane is, you may need to grab an extra level or 2 of W early on)

vamp scepter => boots1 => sheen => phage => triforce => merc treads => chainmail => negatron cloak => frozen heart => force of nature.

This leaves you with an open slot and a vamp scepter to play with. If you've made it this far, you probably have pretty much won or will win because you're so damned tough to kill. The vamp scepter should be turned into either a bloodthirster or starks. I typically build it out last after I fill the open slot. Candidates for the open slot include +AS weapons (AS is always good on a late game Irelia for W scaling) and last whisper for armor penetration. In most cases, you won't need any more defense-oriented items.

I'm a big fan of the school of thought that Irelia doesn't really need much in terms of +HP items because she heals so much in fights. I'd guess that, in late game fights, she probably heals for 1500-2000+ hp during each fight from her R, autoattacks with W, and vamp from Q use. That's a shitton when you consider that she has roughly 200/180 armor/mres.

If you're jungling, use the same build (maybe AS reds instead), but open cloth+5hp => wriggles, WQWEQR. You can start at blue if you get a leash.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
November 01 2011 00:15 GMT
#170
On November 01 2011 03:24 Mogwai wrote:
She's a really stupid character, but I love Irelia and I can't believe people bitch about her power (it's STILL fucking absurd).


Yea I had a pretty stupid game with irelia. The rest of my team couldn't be relied upon, but I was able to carry a ranked game. It was rather ridiculous, the heimer I laned against never got any HP items, let me free farm, and pretty much kill him whenever I wanted (only killed him twice in lane though). When the enemies had a chance to stop me early, they didn't, which let me be a beast and carry my team. Up until the last teamfight where we ended it, I had 20 kills out the 26 total.

http://i.imgur.com/NFRg2.jpg
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 01 2011 00:29 GMT
#171
^
"yeah sorry i had a bg"
*looks at items*
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 01 2011 00:39 GMT
#172
It'd be cool if they made a character after Chill.

Anyway, I love Irelia and the build works really well.
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
November 01 2011 00:48 GMT
#173
On November 01 2011 03:09 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 02:12 sylverfyre wrote:
On November 01 2011 02:06 Chill wrote:
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks

Welcome to the fold Unfortunate that Irelia's not one of the cheaper champions and her free week is about to end.

I'm level 5 haha. I'm sure I can just try someone else.

Chill playing LoL hehe. Following in Tyler's footsteps.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
ClonedBefore
Profile Joined October 2011
United States289 Posts
November 01 2011 01:10 GMT
#174
On November 01 2011 09:29 R04R wrote:
^
"yeah sorry i had a bg"
*looks at items*


Yeah I have no idea, I checked the recent history after the game and they loved building bloodrazor on their ADs.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
November 01 2011 02:04 GMT
#175
On November 01 2011 03:24 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 03:18 Makavw wrote:
Irelia used to be my favourite char but now i just dont see a reason to play her anymore .

She cannot force anyone out of the lane, she is not the best afk farmer , she doesnt counter anyone but she can be countered :/.
The only reason why irelia is still good for me is beeing the most mobile "tank" in game.
Other then that if i want to farm i pick Nasus or Gp, if i want to be aggresive i pick Garen/Renekton.

Also i have yet to lose a lane versus irelia as garen. He seems like super hard counter to her unless he gets ganked early .

Irelia is flexible enough to spec vs. anyone. She doesn't win many lanes, but she doesn't lose the way Nasus or Singed can, and she has comparable power when farmed. Lol @ farming with GP, on equal farm, Irelia takes a massive massive dump on GP.

Irelia is my go-to safe pick in lane. She can just spec balls out defensive and arrive on lane with like 70 Armor vs. Garen/Pantheon/Talon with 5 hp pots and just outsustain them until wriggle's and then she just fucks them in the face. You can literally just outspec whoever you're laning against and get your farm vs. ANYONE, which transistions into her retarded mid-late game.

She's a really stupid character, but I love Irelia and I can't believe people bitch about her power (it's STILL fucking absurd).

=/

i hear such passionate praise about irelia but i've never seen her perform that well. when laning against her i found it to be such an easy win even back when she was considered 'broken'. now that i'm playing as her i just can't seem find her place. she doesn't have the ridiculous early game of garen, the broken midgame of nidalee, the unstoppable lategame of jax. at the same time her mediocrity at all stages of the game don't add up to her being 'versatile'. i was talking to spud about this earlier and he also doesn't find her to be too strong either.

maybe i'm just that bad at the game.

also, how do you beat AP with stuns as irelia (sion, ryze, even kennen).
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 01 2011 18:06 GMT
#176
On November 01 2011 11:04 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 03:24 Mogwai wrote:
On November 01 2011 03:18 Makavw wrote:
Irelia used to be my favourite char but now i just dont see a reason to play her anymore .

She cannot force anyone out of the lane, she is not the best afk farmer , she doesnt counter anyone but she can be countered :/.
The only reason why irelia is still good for me is beeing the most mobile "tank" in game.
Other then that if i want to farm i pick Nasus or Gp, if i want to be aggresive i pick Garen/Renekton.

Also i have yet to lose a lane versus irelia as garen. He seems like super hard counter to her unless he gets ganked early .

Irelia is flexible enough to spec vs. anyone. She doesn't win many lanes, but she doesn't lose the way Nasus or Singed can, and she has comparable power when farmed. Lol @ farming with GP, on equal farm, Irelia takes a massive massive dump on GP.

Irelia is my go-to safe pick in lane. She can just spec balls out defensive and arrive on lane with like 70 Armor vs. Garen/Pantheon/Talon with 5 hp pots and just outsustain them until wriggle's and then she just fucks them in the face. You can literally just outspec whoever you're laning against and get your farm vs. ANYONE, which transistions into her retarded mid-late game.

She's a really stupid character, but I love Irelia and I can't believe people bitch about her power (it's STILL fucking absurd).

=/

i hear such passionate praise about irelia but i've never seen her perform that well. when laning against her i found it to be such an easy win even back when she was considered 'broken'. now that i'm playing as her i just can't seem find her place. she doesn't have the ridiculous early game of garen, the broken midgame of nidalee, the unstoppable lategame of jax. at the same time her mediocrity at all stages of the game don't add up to her being 'versatile'. i was talking to spud about this earlier and he also doesn't find her to be too strong either.

maybe i'm just that bad at the game.

also, how do you beat AP with stuns as irelia (sion, ryze, even kennen).

AP with stuns? Flat MRes Glyphs, Flat MRes Quints, 0/21/9, open regrowth, rush philo -> Merc's + Wit's End.

Garen early game is Garen early game. Irelia can very easily spec and build to never lose a lane to Garen and by the time she gets wriggle's, he can't do fucking anything. Irelia 1v1 murders Nidalee midgame AND is stronger in teamfights (by a mile too, it's not even close). Nidalee gives more mobility but, w/e, it's fucking Nidalee. Jax's "unstoppable" late game is something I've still yet to fucking see. Most overrated phase on any character ever. Irelia does more in your standard teamfight than Jax will and doesn't require you to build an entire fucking team around all-inning on Jax's lategame.

I dunno man, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say. When I play Irelia, I feel like I cannot lose a lane hard enough to hurt my team because I can build whatever I need to stop the opposing damage and just get my farm and then in teamfights I can alternately peel and kill tanks or dive and kill carries regardless of my build at that point in time due to her crazy ass kit.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 01 2011 20:47 GMT
#177
Irelia does have some hard lanes, but I feel like Nasus is one of the only champions who "counters" Irelia. Nasus will never die and simply free farm his Q.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 01 2011 20:55 GMT
#178
On November 02 2011 05:47 Sandster wrote:
Irelia does have some hard lanes, but I feel like Nasus is one of the only champions who "counters" Irelia. Nasus will never die and simply free farm his Q.

Every Irelia counter is a soft counter. It's shit like, "Nasus will also free farm and farmed Nasus is probably a little better than farmed Irelia," or like, "Pantheon will be up 20 CS by 10 minutes before Irelia catches up and starts zoning him," or like, "Teemo will put damage on Irelia's tower if she doesn't get gank presence when he overextends." That's why I love her when I have to blind first pick top lane. There are a number of counters, but none of them are as fucking retarded as stuff like GP >>>> Nasus, Lee Sin >>>>>> Akali, or <Generic good solo lane ranged carry> >>>>>>>> Singed.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 01 2011 20:58 GMT
#179
On November 02 2011 05:55 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:47 Sandster wrote:
Irelia does have some hard lanes, but I feel like Nasus is one of the only champions who "counters" Irelia. Nasus will never die and simply free farm his Q.

Every Irelia counter is a soft counter. It's shit like, "Nasus will also free farm and farmed Nasus is probably a little better than farmed Irelia," or like, "Pantheon will be up 20 CS by 10 minutes before Irelia catches up and starts zoning him," or like, "Teemo will put damage on Irelia's tower if she doesn't get gank presence when he overextends." That's why I love her when I have to blind first pick top lane. There are a number of counters, but none of them are as fucking retarded as stuff like GP >>>> Nasus, Lee Sin >>>>>> Akali, or <Generic good solo lane ranged carry> >>>>>>>> Singed.


I agree, but a Nasus with 300+ on Q before 20min is pretty freaking scary =/

Better question is - their team first picks Irelia, who would be your pick against her? Nasus would be near the top of that list (depending on team comp).
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 01 2011 21:05 GMT
#180
On November 02 2011 05:58 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:55 Mogwai wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:47 Sandster wrote:
Irelia does have some hard lanes, but I feel like Nasus is one of the only champions who "counters" Irelia. Nasus will never die and simply free farm his Q.

Every Irelia counter is a soft counter. It's shit like, "Nasus will also free farm and farmed Nasus is probably a little better than farmed Irelia," or like, "Pantheon will be up 20 CS by 10 minutes before Irelia catches up and starts zoning him," or like, "Teemo will put damage on Irelia's tower if she doesn't get gank presence when he overextends." That's why I love her when I have to blind first pick top lane. There are a number of counters, but none of them are as fucking retarded as stuff like GP >>>> Nasus, Lee Sin >>>>>> Akali, or <Generic good solo lane ranged carry> >>>>>>>> Singed.


I agree, but a Nasus with 300+ on Q before 20min is pretty freaking scary =/

Better question is - their team first picks Irelia, who would be your pick against her? Nasus would be near the top of that list (depending on team comp).


I don't know if this is still the case, but Rumble, Renekton, Malzahar, and Caitlyn (trap whore and range abuse) were all heroes that that I found more difficult to deal with 4-5 months ago. I understand that Rumble has been nerfed. Not sure about the others.
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