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AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
October 09 2011 23:48 GMT
#141
Does anyone know if getting 3 FoN on Irelia is good if the opposing team is 4 AP? What would be an ideal build against 4 AP?
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 10 2011 00:38 GMT
#142
Just get a warmogs and a banshee. Voids staff would crush triple fon. Or even spirit visage//hexdrinker/wits end all viable.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 07:06:49
October 10 2011 07:05 GMT
#143
Am i missing something here or is 3x FoN unrealistically expensive?

EDIT: After your first FoN you might as well get a GA and just hope they blow everything killing you the first time.
FADC
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 10 2011 11:46 GMT
#144
And a banshee in lieue of the third FoN.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 11:57:12
October 10 2011 11:56 GMT
#145
Thinking again, wits end+fon+warmogs is probably best bet since you get more damage and banshees I don't like at all on melees. Just get an atmas and banshee after or something. GA I don't like too much vs magic but I Guess it works.

BTW guys, just an aside on yorick vs irelia, you NEED to go 21 defense versus him. I used to have easy times against him since I always went 21 defense and then when I switch to 0/9/21 which is more US style I played vs this random yorick and he felt so OP and I couldn't touch him. If you think about it, with -4 damage taken from each minion that adds up to a LOT over the course of his harass.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
October 17 2011 01:12 GMT
#146
Does anyone have any quick tips for facing a Garen in lane? Everytime i've faced one I can either trade or come out worse against him, qq...

And while on the subject who would be best for beating a Garen out in top lane? Jax, Galio?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 17 2011 01:13 GMT
#147
Ryze can outlane Garen. Just watch out for Flash QE + jungle ganks.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 01:30:30
October 17 2011 01:23 GMT
#148
Wriggles for a surefire easy laning phase against garen. Cloth+5 into wriggles. You don't even need boots. Try to stun him when he uses Q but if not just make sure you have W activated and just right click him while he spins since you can't run from him anyway, even though you lose the trade you heal and he doesn't and he can't fight without his CD's

Wriggles+Wits end+Trinity works well, you have strong sustained healing and you kill people as fast as an assassin so your q almost works like an escape bruiser+kill squishy.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
October 17 2011 01:58 GMT
#149
On October 17 2011 10:23 Slayer91 wrote:
Wriggles for a surefire easy laning phase against garen. Cloth+5 into wriggles. You don't even need boots. Try to stun him when he uses Q but if not just make sure you have W activated and just right click him while he spins since you can't run from him anyway, even though you lose the trade you heal and he doesn't and he can't fight without his CD's

Wriggles+Wits end+Trinity works well, you have strong sustained healing and you kill people as fast as an assassin so your q almost works like an escape bruiser+kill squishy.


Hmm didn't even think of Wriggles, I normally go Cloth+5 HPots, Tabi, Phage, then Wit's end(AP) or Atmas(AD) into either Tri force if more damage needed or GA for more tankiness.

Maybe I just need to get used to her but I feel like nearly everyone just gets to push her around in lane, likely just me being used to Akali/Galio.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
October 17 2011 07:07 GMT
#150
On October 17 2011 10:58 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 10:23 Slayer91 wrote:
Wriggles for a surefire easy laning phase against garen. Cloth+5 into wriggles. You don't even need boots. Try to stun him when he uses Q but if not just make sure you have W activated and just right click him while he spins since you can't run from him anyway, even though you lose the trade you heal and he doesn't and he can't fight without his CD's

Wriggles+Wits end+Trinity works well, you have strong sustained healing and you kill people as fast as an assassin so your q almost works like an escape bruiser+kill squishy.


Hmm didn't even think of Wriggles, I normally go Cloth+5 HPots, Tabi, Phage, then Wit's end(AP) or Atmas(AD) into either Tri force if more damage needed or GA for more tankiness.

Maybe I just need to get used to her but I feel like nearly everyone just gets to push her around in lane, likely just me being used to Akali/Galio.


Your feelings of inadequacy are exactly the opposite of what you should be feeling when picking Irelia against most lanes. Remember you are a mid- to late-game beast.
FADC
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 17 2011 07:12 GMT
#151
On October 10 2011 20:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Thinking again, wits end+fon+warmogs is probably best bet since you get more damage and banshees I don't like at all on melees. Just get an atmas and banshee after or something. GA I don't like too much vs magic but I Guess it works.

BTW guys, just an aside on yorick vs irelia, you NEED to go 21 defense versus him. I used to have easy times against him since I always went 21 defense and then when I switch to 0/9/21 which is more US style I played vs this random yorick and he felt so OP and I couldn't touch him. If you think about it, with -4 damage taken from each minion that adds up to a LOT over the course of his harass.

FoN is entirely useless and overcosted for the value. Just get multiple negatrons.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 17 2011 07:21 GMT
#152
On October 17 2011 16:12 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 20:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Thinking again, wits end+fon+warmogs is probably best bet since you get more damage and banshees I don't like at all on melees. Just get an atmas and banshee after or something. GA I don't like too much vs magic but I Guess it works.

BTW guys, just an aside on yorick vs irelia, you NEED to go 21 defense versus him. I used to have easy times against him since I always went 21 defense and then when I switch to 0/9/21 which is more US style I played vs this random yorick and he felt so OP and I couldn't touch him. If you think about it, with -4 damage taken from each minion that adds up to a LOT over the course of his harass.

FoN is entirely useless and overcosted for the value. Just get multiple negatrons.


Wut
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mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
October 17 2011 07:57 GMT
#153
On October 17 2011 16:21 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 16:12 L wrote:
On October 10 2011 20:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Thinking again, wits end+fon+warmogs is probably best bet since you get more damage and banshees I don't like at all on melees. Just get an atmas and banshee after or something. GA I don't like too much vs magic but I Guess it works.

BTW guys, just an aside on yorick vs irelia, you NEED to go 21 defense versus him. I used to have easy times against him since I always went 21 defense and then when I switch to 0/9/21 which is more US style I played vs this random yorick and he felt so OP and I couldn't touch him. If you think about it, with -4 damage taken from each minion that adds up to a LOT over the course of his harass.

FoN is entirely useless and overcosted for the value. Just get multiple negatrons.


Wut


to be fair, half the cost of fon goes into health regen which isn't nearly as useful as flat mr in a battle, but for a solo top irelia where sustain is king, fon is a great investment.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 09:39:32
October 17 2011 09:38 GMT
#154
Being able to survive stupid amounts of poke is definitely high value maybe you guys are too used to solo queue when fights happen randomly around the map and its fun to have trinity force to kill everyone but force of nature is definitely not overcosted. In 5 man standoff fights at towers dragons and barons (i.e every single fight in competitive 5's) regen is very useful.

Against AP carries who are usually poke heavy and limited by mana pools FoN is pretty brutal because anyone with void staff can burst you down if you're low health while FoN keeps you high health while having stupid amounts of EHP against magical.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 30 2011 19:06 GMT
#155
Why isn't Irelia played more in Dominion? Her sustainability and utility in the field are pretty hard to beat.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 31 2011 17:06 GMT
#156
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 31 2011 17:09 GMT
#157
On November 01 2011 02:06 Chill wrote:
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks

Welcome to the brotherhood. Feel free to add me in game (TwoDoWn) and message if you ever want a game or to learn a new character!
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 31 2011 17:12 GMT
#158
On November 01 2011 02:06 Chill wrote:
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks

Welcome to the fold Unfortunate that Irelia's not one of the cheaper champions and her free week is about to end.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 31 2011 17:24 GMT
#159
On October 10 2011 20:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Thinking again, wits end+fon+warmogs is probably best bet since you get more damage and banshees I don't like at all on melees. Just get an atmas and banshee after or something. GA I don't like too much vs magic but I Guess it works.

BTW guys, just an aside on yorick vs irelia, you NEED to go 21 defense versus him. I used to have easy times against him since I always went 21 defense and then when I switch to 0/9/21 which is more US style I played vs this random yorick and he felt so OP and I couldn't touch him. If you think about it, with -4 damage taken from each minion that adds up to a LOT over the course of his harass.


I've played against Yorick a couple of times as Irelia (21-0-9), and both times I found his constant harass to be negligible after level 3. I open with a vamp scepter, QWWEQR (I might have grabbed another W at level 5, I don't remember). It's pretty easy to keep your health up just by autoattacking his stupid ghosts and minions. Once you get a sheen and get to level 6, you can engage Yorick freely and own him.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 31 2011 17:27 GMT
#160
On November 01 2011 02:06 Chill wrote:
I just started playing LoL on Saturday and this guide helps as this is the only character I know so far. Thanks


Gotta be careful of the champ rotation. Irelia won't be free starting tomorrow/Wednesday.
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